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Toolkit may be coming soon to you guys!

Looking to bring you guys into the action. I'm gonna purchase a kindle fire online on Monday and then make a toolkit on it.
Just a few questions.
You guys use Fastboot commands or no?
Ex: Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, Fastboot flash boot boot.img
A personal question myself, since there is no removable battery, is there a button trick to shut it off if it freezes?
I have to put all this into consideration when I make the toolkit.
Thanks!
If you don't know what a toolkit is, look in my signature. Just don't look at the Sensation or MT4GS since I still have to update their UIs

Yep you just hold the power button if it freezes and itll shutoff pretty much no matter what. Also please do bring tool kit here

HaiKaiDo said:
Yep you just hold the power button if it freezes and itll shutoff pretty much no matter what. Also please do bring tool kit here
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Thanks for the reply! What show I know about the device? Anything in particular?
Why is it necessary to flash a different bootloader? (I should be reading on it now, but I'll get a better analysis on it when I order it)
The toolkit is gonna basically be like this but with a graphical user interface
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Will add other options as well, just gotta see how this works since it is different than HTC phones.

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help me out so I can help you guys out as well!

Theres already a toolkit

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Theres already a toolkit
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Who said another one won't hurt? It's good to have choices. Would you rather use one ROM or have choices to choose from?
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Drivers are a big issue for the tool kit we do have.
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Drivers are a big issue for the tool kit we do have.
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Can you explain what you mean?
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jacewt said:
Drivers are a big issue for the tool kit we do have.
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This is true.
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What's wrong with the drivers?
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hasoon2000 said:
What's wrong with the drivers?
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Lets just say If you can get it to connect through adb you are a genius.
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the device requires different drivers for adb/fastboot.
once u get adb working, and reboot into fastboot, it usually doesn't get seen by the PC. its one of the biggest issues and lots of people have them when rooting.
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I used hasoons toolkit with my amaze and gotta say thanks.hasoon andcant wwait to see what you do fornthe kindle users too.
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Fastboot works real well with the fire. Its a nice device to use with adb and fastboot.
The drivers are really finicky and once you get them set up....don't change anything with regard to your computer as far as your kindle fire development setup. The trick for me (windows 8) is to force disable windows driver signing protocol and to use the windows device manager and USB deview to get the kindle fire drivers established. I would not start off with the kindle fire utility kit or put that in the same directory as your kindle fire development file.
Its a great device and I think a new toolkit does no harm and promotes further development. I strongly advise using TWRP recovery and not clockwork mod as there's some unresolved issues with damaged emmc partitions causing brickedness. (See hashcodes thread with regard to cwm recovery for the 3.0 kernel)
That 3.0 kernel (by Hashcode) pumped massive growth into this device as we did not have hardware acceleration prior to that (outside of the Amazon forked build.)
Now I've no idea what a toolkit is but I'll help test drive anyhow. What's the other toolkit? Vashypoors KFU? That is a nice setup but IMHO people ought to be able to handle ADB and fastboot business before using that KFU or any other toolkit.
You asked about the bootloader? Great write up about why the stock image was replaced by FIREFIREFIRE by Pokey9000 I'll try to find it later but it should be one if the stickied threads here. You can't do a thing with the stock bootloader.
Edit --- I now know what you mean by a toolkit... I didnt realize you made one for the One-S. (nice work, that!!)
Now Im going to get a bit straightforward, dont get me wrong --- these toolkits are great, but they are akin to giving just about anyone on the street a loaded gun... toolkits give an absolute noob or a person who has absolutely no idea whatsoever what they are doing a false sense of security and they believe they have full control of the device where they clearly do not. You effectively give people the easy mind-numbingly-easy opportunity to change something on their device and then they have no idea what its doing or how to get out of any predicament. Thankfully, there are things called "Drivers-Education" and then a "Test" prior to all 16 year olds getting permission to operate motor vehicles!
IT WOULD be cool if you made your toolkit lockable which is unlocked only by the user successfully performing various executions of simple adb and fastboot activities.... i use these toolkits only when my keyboard is broke, or my hands are broke or otherwise occupied by children.
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If you use the KFU on your kindle to root everything should go well. You may encounter problems if you do it manually at least I did a little a bit others my have not. For the driver issue the KFU comes with drivers use them instead when your computer asks for the location. I wish you luck with the toolkit the more the merrier
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While I'm a huge proponent of the manual method of rooting/modifying the Kindle Fire, I don't think having programs like the KFU is a major problem. The only way Kindle Fire development is going to grow is with more users, even if those users are noobs looking to take the easy way out. The more popular the device becomes, the more likely experienced developers will jump on board.
There really isn't much you can do about people who refuse to follow directions or educate themselves before getting into trouble, other than complaining about it and posting stupid threads like "This is what you people sound like". It all comes with the territory, especially in a world where a mentally retarded two year old can jailbreak an iPhone and feel like a genius afterwards.
As long as people are still searching for the "any" key, I'll still be mumbling TSTFO and yelling HLMGIFY until my face turns blue but I'll be more than willing to put up with it to see this community grow and get some awesome development in the process. So yes, I say bring on the Toolkit, the worst that could happen is I get more fuel for my sick sense of humor.

build something that restores a kindle in an sbf like process to stock original correctly partitioned then you might have a tool that could rescue a whole bunch of people who have broken systems, bootloaders,recoveries and completly wacked out partitions then you will have a tool that will get used to death.

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build something that restores a kindle in an sbf like process to stock original correctly partitioned then you might have a tool that could rescue a whole bunch of people who have broken systems, bootloaders,recoveries and completly wacked out partitions then you will have a tool that will get used to death.
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I just have to learn more about it first before I get into doing that unless there is a fix that I can look at.
soupmagnet said:
While I'm a huge proponent of the manual method of rooting/modifying the Kindle Fire, I don't think having programs like the KFU is a major problem. The only way Kindle Fire development is going to grow is with more users, even if those users are noobs looking to take the easy way out. The more popular the device becomes, the more likely experienced developers will jump on board.
There really isn't much you can do about people who refuse to follow directions or educate themselves before getting into trouble, other than complaining about it and posting stupid threads like "This is what you people sound like". It all comes with the territory, especially in a world where a mentally retarded two year old can jailbreak an iPhone and feel like a genius afterwards.
As long as people are still searching for the "any" key, I'll still be mumbling TSTFO and yelling HLMGIFY until my face turns blue but I'll be more than willing to put up with it to see this community grow and get some awesome development in the process. So yes, I say bring on the Toolkit, the worst that could happen is I get more fuel for my sick sense of humor.
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First, I loved the link to the humor thread. I started laughing because we always deal with that!
Second, I agree. Manual method is the way to go for new users to learn in case anything happens. I just hate doing commands manually all the time so I automate them to make it easier on me.
I would need you guys to help out since you guys have way more experience than me with the Kindle (I'm gonna order it soon). As long as you guys don't mind, then this will definitely come!
Kheladu said:
If you use the KFU on your kindle to root everything should go well. You may encounter problems if you do it manually at least I did a little a bit others my have not. For the driver issue the KFU comes with drivers use them instead when your computer asks for the location. I wish you luck with the toolkit the more the merrier
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Thank you sir! I'll see if I can get the drivers issue fixed.
androidcues said:
Fastboot works real well with the fire. Its a nice device to use with adb and fastboot.
The drivers are really finicky and once you get them set up....don't change anything with regard to your computer as far as your kindle fire development setup. The trick for me (windows 8) is to force disable windows driver signing protocol and to use the windows device manager and USB deview to get the kindle fire drivers established. I would not start off with the kindle fire utility kit or put that in the same directory as your kindle fire development file.
Its a great device and I think a new toolkit does no harm and promotes further development. I strongly advise using TWRP recovery and not clockwork mod as there's some unresolved issues with damaged emmc partitions causing brickedness. (See hashcodes thread with regard to cwm recovery for the 3.0 kernel)
That 3.0 kernel (by Hashcode) pumped massive growth into this device as we did not have hardware acceleration prior to that (outside of the Amazon forked build.)
Now I've no idea what a toolkit is but I'll help test drive anyhow. What's the other toolkit? Vashypoors KFU? That is a nice setup but IMHO people ought to be able to handle ADB and fastboot business before using that KFU or any other toolkit.
You asked about the bootloader? Great write up about why the stock image was replaced by FIREFIREFIRE by Pokey9000 I'll try to find it later but it should be one if the stickied threads here. You can't do a thing with the stock bootloader.
Edit --- I now know what you mean by a toolkit... I didnt realize you made one for the One-S. (nice work, that!!)
Now Im going to get a bit straightforward, dont get me wrong --- these toolkits are great, but they are akin to giving just about anyone on the street a loaded gun... toolkits give an absolute noob or a person who has absolutely no idea whatsoever what they are doing a false sense of security and they believe they have full control of the device where they clearly do not. You effectively give people the easy mind-numbingly-easy opportunity to change something on their device and then they have no idea what its doing or how to get out of any predicament. Thankfully, there are things called "Drivers-Education" and then a "Test" prior to all 16 year olds getting permission to operate motor vehicles!
IT WOULD be cool if you made your toolkit lockable which is unlocked only by the user successfully performing various executions of simple adb and fastboot activities.... i use these toolkits only when my keyboard is broke, or my hands are broke or otherwise occupied by children.
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No offense taken! Positive criticism at its finest! lol. You really gave me a lot of info and helped out. As I said earlier, I'm new to this. (Still didn't order the kindle yet) so I'm trying to gather all the knowledge so I have a heads up.
I will user TWRP and not add CWM since we don't want anyone to have bad partitions. If you can, link me why the bootloader was replaced by FFF so I have an understanding on that please
I'm gonna update the One S toolkit soon just so you know!
I did have users who had no clue start using the toolkit. The issues they had were not reading the Post I have on Bugs (A directory issue) and they say it doesn't work. The other issue was root (which I fixed) and flashing a GB kernel onto an ICS ROM. They didn't know what it was and thought it was mandatory (even though it is under the optional section) and soft bricked their phones. I removed kernels and if they want to flash a kernel, they have to do it themselves so they can't blame me or anything.
But thanks again for all the info!
smirkis said:
the device requires different drivers for adb/fastboot.
once u get adb working, and reboot into fastboot, it usually doesn't get seen by the PC. its one of the biggest issues and lots of people have them when rooting.
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Will do. Thanks for the heads up!
tgamble160 said:
I used hasoons toolkit with my amaze and gotta say thanks.hasoon andcant wwait to see what you do fornthe kindle users too.
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Glad you liked my Amaze toolkit (btw, I updated it a few days ago if you didn't check yet)
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Everyone, I would like to thank you all for all the info you have given me! Feel free to pitch in some links of anything or anything I should know about before I make the toolkit!

Honestly, an absolute majority of the problems stem from not having the proper drivers installed. With that out of the way, I'm sure there would be a lot less posts from people complaining about stuff not working.

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I will user TWRP and not add CWM since we don't want anyone to have bad partitions. If you can, link me why the bootloader was replaced by FFF so I have an understanding on that please
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kinfauns wrote an excellent "Kindle Fire for Beginners" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547) which goes into the details of things like why the stock bootloader was replaced w/ FFF. Main benefits of FFF is that it kicks in a temporary fastboot, and also enables easy access to recovery.
In the above-linked document, look under the "How do I unbrick my Kindle Fire?" heading for details of the benefits of FFF's temporary fastboot and access to recovery.
Having been a flashaholic, tinkerer and dabbling themer type on my Moto Droid X for the last 1.25 yrs (with several soft-bricks along the way), the general concepts w/ the Kindle Fire were familiar but the devil's in the details. Thanks to kinfaun's guides and other posts in the forums here, I learned the Kindle Fire stuff more quickly and understand things a lot better than I probably would have otherwise.

Rooting kindle?

Okay I have been searching for hours, trying to root my kindle Fire. I installed the drivers as showed. Im showing up in device manager under android phone / android adb interface. When I run the kindle fire Utility It comes up and says ADB status Online, Boot status unknown. I have tried plugin right into the back of the computer with the USB cord thinking it was the hub from comments i read in another thread but no luck. I have also reinstalled the drivers several times, at one point restarting after every step and still no luck. Any help on this please?

You might have a kindle fire 2. Check your firmware revision in device info or about device or whatever its called in settings. If its 10.something you probably have a 2. It has a faster processor and more ram but it has a locked bootloader that no one has said they are actively working on as of yet. Hopefully someone will pick it up soon. It can be rooted and have Gapps installed but no custom recovery which means no custom ROMs. If you develop or know someone, give it a shot. I know there are at least a few people eager to have a full tablet.
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You might have a kindle fire 2. Check your firmware revision in device info or about device or whatever its called in settings. If its 10.something you probably have a 2. It has a faster processor and more ram but it has a locked bootloader that no one has said they are actively working on as of yet. Hopefully someone will pick it up soon. It can be rooted and have Gapps installed but no custom recovery which means no custom ROMs. If you develop or know someone, give it a shot. I know there are at least a few people eager to have a full tablet.
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Thanks for the reply I never did get it to change, I went ahead and took a chance and rooted it anyways with the tool, everthing worked perfect. I now have it running android 4.1

Unable to root my Kindle Fire 8.9 on 8.4.3

I am unable to root my Kindle Fire. No matter which method I use (KFFA, Bin4ry, SF Tool), the program either doesn't work at all, or my Kindle does not respond to the commands. All I want to do is install the Play Store. I have had very bad luck with Kindles.

Sounds like a driver problem, check that USB debugging is on under security options, and then on your PC make sure there's no devices in the device manager with a yellow triangle.
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stunts513 said:
Sounds like a driver problem, check that USB debugging is on under security options, and then on your PC make sure there's no devices in the device manager with a yellow triangle.
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I've uninstalled then reinstalled the drivers about 3 times now. Still not working.

ironbesterer said:
I've uninstalled then reinstalled the drivers about 3 times now. Still not working.
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Linux + Soupmagnet's script

Cronoss said:
Linux + Soupmagnet's script
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Funny... I'm running Win8. No dual-booting.

ironbesterer said:
Funny... I'm running Win8. No dual-booting.
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Virtualbox and linux bro.

First off from what I heard using a vPC with Linux and trying to do that is a bad idea, trying to remember where I heard that, so I can't exactly reference it right now. Secondly u can dual boot on a windows 8 PC, you just need to shut off the secure boot in your bios and boot an Ubuntu live CD, should work just fine.
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First off from what I heard using a vPC with Linux and trying to do that is a bad idea, trying to remember where I heard that, so I can't exactly reference it right now. Secondly u can dual boot on a windows 8 PC, you just need to shut off the secure boot in your bios and boot an Ubuntu live CD, should work just fine.
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I've done it dozens of times on different Android devices, jailbroke IOS devices, flashed routers with DDWRT and I NEVER had a problem.

stunts513 said:
First off from what I heard using a vPC with Linux and trying to do that is a bad idea, trying to remember where I heard that, so I can't exactly reference it right now. Secondly u can dual boot on a windows 8 PC, you just need to shut off the secure boot in your bios and boot an Ubuntu live CD, should work just fine.
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I've already tried that. HP does not allow dual-boot on my computer.

They can't not allow that, its a matter of what the hard drive has set as the bootloader. Its sometimes a pain to configure though, I would know I have had to set this kinda thing up on PC's before, it sucks, don't know why they couldn't stick to the MBR setup instead of this stupid efi system.
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They can't not allow that, its a matter of what the hard drive has set as the bootloader. Its sometimes a pain to configure though, I would know I have had to set this kinda thing up on PC's before, it sucks, don't know why they couldn't stick to the MBR setup instead of this stupid efi system.
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Not to be an ass or anything, but going to efi allows computers to advance to using faster, smoother, more secure operating systems. BIOS is extremely dated (as in nothing has changed with them since they were invented).
Now, ironbesterer, if you would be so kind as tell me the particular model of HP you have, I will be more than happy to assist you in getting your system to boot from either a live disk or a bootable usb.

[Q] My Kindle got no OS

Hey guys, I tried to install TWRP by following this threadhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277105 and I successfully boot into TWRP.
But then terrible things happened. Maybe I got wrong by clicked one more bottom on fireflash herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168512.
Then TWRP tells me no OS found, I can only boot into recovery now. Since Kindle Fire HD got no external SD card, what can I do about it?
Only factory cable, which I nerver want it, can save my Kindle?
Help please!!!

You don't need a factory cable to fix, and I think they don't work on 8.9” models anyways. This tutorial might not sound like its for your problem based on its title, but it will fix it nonetheless. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459498
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You don't need a factory cable to fix, and I think they don't work on 8.9” models anyways. This tutorial might not sound like its for your problem based on its title, but it will fix it nonetheless. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459498
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Yeah, it works, I thought fastboot can save it but TWMP are so pwerful and easy to use. Thanks!!!

Made a successful fastboot cable, I believe adb drivers work, stuck though!

Alright, so I was trying to follow the guide on using a custom rom on kindle fire 2. I got to the point where it asked me to issue a fastboot command to verify device and I got a bunch of numbers and letters followed by the word device, so all seemed well. I then rebooted out of fastboot and issued the adb command to back up my stock files. I can't get it to work at all. I've scoured the forum and as much as I appreciate everyones work and dedication, trying to find the right article is a mess! I don't know what guide to use, or how to backup my stuff. I literally just want jelly bean and google play store on my tablet, that's it. I assume rooting is also necessary. Can anyone point me in the right direction or help? 10.4.8 is my software version.

To use adb, root is required.
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wire55 said:
To use adb, root is required.
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I am almost positive I was rooted, had a super SU on the apps and everything. However, I tried the guide for KF2 and it bricked. I then fixed it with KF Firstaide by restoring back to 10.2.3. I then tried to root with the same program and got some weird kindle fire logo popping up like crazy while in the launcher and had to restore again. Stuck at this point again. What's the best way to root? This is the guide I was referring to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963