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As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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Personally, at this time, it's much better to look for a newer released phone. Probably a dual core with a bigger internal memory. But if camera is your main thing, then go for arc plus it's design is really a beauty. And for average usage, arc is enough.
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I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
LanceAmr said:
As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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I just got mine delivered today. Compared to X10, it is a jump forward. I like it so far, fast and responsive. Galaxy S2 looks good but at $150 more compared to arc.
Rycon33 said:
Personally, at this time, it's much better to look for a newer released phone. Probably a dual core with a bigger internal memory. But if camera is your main thing, then go for arc plus it's design is really a beauty. And for average usage, arc is enough.
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Hmmmm . Im using optimus 2x , and well not much customization like timescape and those things. Like those things when i was on x10 . Anyways got the 2x for gaming but then im growing older and my speed is getting slower so dual cores arent my thing anymore . So yea ill reconsider about getting the phone.
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nöt said:
I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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Not getting another dual core at the moment . Got another friend using a S2 . Dont wish to have the same phone as him ;P
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I just got mine delivered today. Compared to X10, it is a jump forward. I like it so far, fast and responsive. Galaxy S2 looks good but at $150 more compared to arc.
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Hahaha yea . S2 is abit more but dual cores are just for gaming for me but i dun game anymore. Internet browsing still looks good and better on a laptop hahahaha.
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Let's, first, see how things develop on the Galaxy SII/Galaxy series front. Apple has already got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 banned in Europe for copyright infringements, and it's seeking a ban of the Galaxy Tab and Galaxy range of phones in the US, too.
nöt said:
I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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Arc's camera beats every other Android device when it comes to camera.
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Well, that's debatable. The SGS2 takes pretty good pictures as well.
LanceAmr said:
As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
xperiax10.awesome said:
I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
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Have to agree with this, had iPhone (3g) SE X1i, Motorola, Nokia...but i do like the Arc.
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Well, that's debatable. The SGS2 takes pretty good pictures as well.
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In low light also?
I think this will help you.
Here is the Camera Test(Not by ME):
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621&idPhone3=3598
From the above you can see ARC have Good Quality.
In My Opinion:
Camera Quality is very good when compared to SG,Desire.
i was using the X10 since sept 2010 and i was holding out for a SE dual core phone, but the X10 was just too slow.
I just got an Xperia Arc used on Craigslist, so it price was good.
As for the camera quality, every thing looks good on the camera screen, but i haven't reviewed or taken enough pictures to make a good judgement about the Xperia Arc's camera.
However, from the few that I have reviewed, it does take better night pictures, but they are FILLED with noise. I have kept all the photos on my SD card. I used to have a K750 --> K800 --> X10 --> Arc and I just keep moving the pictures over from the memory sticks and you definitely see the improvement in camera quality, except from the X10 --> Arc.
If you can get it for a good price, I would just upgrade, sell the X10 for whatever you can get, and then wait it out for a dual core SE or have fun with it until you decide to drop the big bucks for a SGS2 or something that is WAY faster.
The Arc's speed is much better than the X10's but it's still a bit laggy, esp with a huge SMS history and Whatpapp logs...
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Let's, first, see how things develop on the Galaxy SII/Galaxy series front. Apple has already got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 banned in Europe for copyright infringements, and it's seeking a ban of the Galaxy Tab and Galaxy range of phones in the US, too.
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Wow seriously? I hadn't heard that, on what grounds?
It was my second day owning an arc in the US. Of course I have been digging threads to find a way to easily root this US model. Also the new firmware update is not available for US. It makes me think, isn't the United States a big market for SE, why don't they have the US a little higher priority?
xperiax10.awesome said:
I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
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Hahaha have to agree that SE makes designs that arent similar to other phones . Will still keep thinking till i get my next pay .
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svprm said:
I think this will help you.
Here is the Camera Test(Not by ME):
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621&idPhone3=3598
From the above you can see ARC have Good Quality.
In My Opinion:
Camera Quality is very good when compared to SG,Desire.
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Thx for the info
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pierreti said:
i was using the X10 since sept 2010 and i was holding out for a SE dual core phone, but the X10 was just too slow.
I just got an Xperia Arc used on Craigslist, so it price was good.
As for the camera quality, every thing looks good on the camera screen, but i haven't reviewed or taken enough pictures to make a good judgement about the Xperia Arc's camera.
However, from the few that I have reviewed, it does take better night pictures, but they are FILLED with noise. I have kept all the photos on my SD card. I used to have a K750 --> K800 --> X10 --> Arc and I just keep moving the pictures over from the memory sticks and you definitely see the improvement in camera quality, except from the X10 --> Arc.
If you can get it for a good price, I would just upgrade, sell the X10 for whatever you can get, and then wait it out for a dual core SE or have fun with it until you decide to drop the big bucks for a SGS2 or something that is WAY faster.
The Arc's speed is much better than the X10's but it's still a bit laggy, esp with a huge SMS history and Whatpapp logs...
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Hmmm planning to sell off my x10 but waiting for SE dual cores will take a long time and im not aiming dual cores that much . Hardly use it for gaming . Only listen to music , msn , calls ,msgs and couple of vids before i go to bed and alot of picture taking when im in my lecture halls. So yea, those things dont require much power
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The Sony Xperia S is a fantastic phone with great features. It is a little old now but still it is really worth the price for all the features it provides.
The main features of the Xperia S are the 12 megapixel camera, 32gb of internal storage, a very high resolution of 342ppi pixel density on a 4.3 inch screen, 1080p video playback, and a battery of li-ion 1750.
This product has a beautiful design with the transparent strip which lights up as you turn the device on. The plastic that covers the body doesn't feel cheap in any, in fact it feels great and fits perfectly in your hand. A great feature that Sony put in this device is taking the picture while the phone is at sleep mode. You hold down the camera button and the phone quickly launches the 12 megapixel camera taking a beautiful picture in less than 2 seconds.
If someone is considering to buy a good smart with good features and a low price, then this is a great option because they have decreased the price by a lot.
You will without a doubt love the Sony Xperia S.
The sub-forum for Xperia S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1945
Good smarpthone
Yes, it is a really good smartphone! But now Sony is increasing prices of his smartphones... Look at the Xperia Z, beautiful, but not so cheap!
Mirk0 said:
Yes, it is a really good smartphone! But now Sony is increasing prices of his smartphones... Look at the Xperia Z, beautiful, but not so cheap!
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yeh the xperia txt series also over prized imho
Agree with you. I really like my XS ,it worth the money ,it is cheap and very good device!
hello forum, I personally think that the Xperia s is one of the most valuable smartphone level quality price!
Agree
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I had the Samsung s2 and comparison Xperia s for me to much higher quality. photo, autonomy, performance! s2 on I put it over 2 times a day ..
Its great mobile.
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What's the point of this thread ? All XS owner's already love their beauty.. Don't create such pointless thread..
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hello, I do not know! the subject was open so wrote the post above
To make some use of this thread, It is reported that we may see a Jelly Bean 4.1.2 release for the XPERIA LT26i at the end of March.
This is a bit sooner than the mooted week 17 (mid April) that was touted earlier.
I for one am quite excited to see what is included in this firmware release.
XPERIA Blog reports: Xperia S Jelly Bean rollout commencing in late March?
a noob question,
can I use chainfire 3d on our xperia s ics?
Reported, but still MODs are not closing this useless thread.
auni said:
Reported, but still MODs are not closing this useless thread.
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Be patient, in my experience, mods will do their job quite well in due time.
hi friends
can i flash Xperia S gingerbread Roms on my SL?
Thanks
Haiyo...for starter, I got both xperia zl and t..both run on 4.2.2...but worder why my xperia t is much faster and smoother than zl and picture more detail in low light in t than zl...both not root by the way...I have compare both, when opening apps and capturing photo...when opening apps, t is slight faster, the same when in browser..and my 13mp t more detail than zl..and it seem the screen is better to..I haven't do a benchmark test yet..but just wondering why dual core more easy to use than quad core...hmm
martin132014 said:
Haiyo...for starter, I got both xperia zl and t..both run on 4.2.2...but worder why my xperia t is much faster and smoother than zl and picture more detail in low light in t than zl...both not root by the way...I have compare both, when opening apps and capturing photo...when opening apps, t is slight faster, the same when in browser..and my 13mp t more detail than zl..and it seem the screen is better to..I haven't do a benchmark test yet..but just wondering why dual core more easy to use than quad core...hmm
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That maybe truth but the real thing about the ZL is that have LTE speed, support up to 64 GB mini SD, latest Android OS, NFC communication, 5.2 inch display (441ppi) running on the Bravia engine 2, infrared port. These are mainly the advantages over the Xperia T
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maclancer said:
That maybe truth but the real thing about the ZL is that have LTE speed, support up to 64 GB mini SD, latest Android OS, NFC communication, 5.2 inch display (441ppi) running on the Bravia engine 2, infrared port. These are mainly the advantages over the Xperia T
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Well, I know this but isn't zl suppost to be superior than t in any way...the advantage that you stated is software related but isn't the purpose of quad core is to be faster and more superior processing power than the dual core....well maybe because all of this new features that make the phone slightly slower than the older t...but despite all this, I just hope the camera in zl is more powerful than t, but from my point of view, maybe it's not...not even the latest update make up for that...hope another update will fix it...still love the zl though...and it's only 5 inch, not 5.2 by the way...
martin132014 said:
...still love the zl though...and it's only 5 inch, not 5.2 by the way...
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My bad, thought it was 5.2 inch
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Are you running the latest firmware (.244) on your ZL? it seems to be noticeably snappier than the original 4.2.2 ROM (.423), should also be quicker than an xperia t
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jaetelha said:
Are you running the latest firmware (.244) on your ZL? it seems to be noticeably snappier than the original 4.2.2 ROM (.423), should also be quicker than an xperia t
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Yup..running 4.2.2 (244) on my zl..and to be corrected, my t is running 4.1.2...just test it today again...and yes zl is slightly faster than 423 but still slower a bit than t...it seems everything I opened, t is just instant...but zl seems take a little bit microsecond to open compare to t...both of them just run a factory reset, just to be sure...but still, t still faster..wonder why..and my model is C6502...
Run 3dmark on both phone and post results. I'd be intrested in the results
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zombiej79 said:
Run 3dmark on both phone and post results. I'd be intrested in the results
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Well I'm not convince the test will tell the story but ill do it anyway...benchmark and real life test sometimes different you know...but for educational purposes, ill make the test...I'll do 3dmark and antutu test...after finished, I'll post it here...
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I don't believe in benchmarks myself I'm just intrested thanks buddy
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I kinda agree with OP. I have both T (TL actually) and ZL . TL is probably the fastest phone I have ever used - that thing literally flys. But after the latest update, ZL got very snappy too. Try the stock launcher in case you are using something else.I saw some stutter on Nova so I switched back to stock launcher which runs very smoothly now. Also please keep in mind that majority of these phone apps are not optimized to take advantage of quadcore SoCs and 720p screen on T gives it some advantage when it comes to rendering. TL display also seems to have more contrast especially if you compare the red Xperia wallpaper on both phones
Camerawise, my TL did take better low light pictures before ZL got updates. After the last two updates on ZL, I saw significant improvement in picture quality and I'm really happy with its low light pictures now. With that said, I was surprised how much more detail ZL (running the first firmware) captured in extremely low light situation compared to galaxy S4. It was a huge difference - night and day and things got just better after the latest update.
By the way, ZL is way more compact than TL (higher screen to size ratio), comes with two more cores, IR blaster, and FHD display, looks much better in my opinion, gives much better battery life compared to TL (more than 2X in my case) - So I'd pick it over T.
zombiej79 said:
I don't believe in benchmarks myself I'm just intrested thanks buddy
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schecter7 said:
I kinda agree with OP. I have both T (TL actually) and ZL . TL is probably the fastest phone I have ever used - that thing literally flys. But after the latest update ZL got very snappy too. Please keep in mind that majority of these phone apps are not optimized to take advantage of quadcore SoCs and 720p screen on T gives it some advantage when it comes to rendering. TL display also seems to have more contrast especially if you compare the red Xperia wallpaper on both phones
Camerawise, my TL did take better low light pictures before ZL got updates. After the last two updates on ZL, I saw significant improvement in picture quality and I'm really happy with its low light pictures now. With that said, I was surprised how much more detail ZL (running the first firmware) captured in extremely low light situation compared to galaxy S4. It was a huge difference - night and day and things got just better after the latest update.
By the way, ZL is way more compact than TL (higher screen to size ratio), comes with two more cores, IR blaster, and FHD display, looks much better in my opinion, gives much better battery life compared to TL (more than 2X in my case) - So I'd pick it over T.
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Well this is the benchmark result..the first two is zl and the second two is t..not surprising zl is faster but from my opinion the t is still slightly faster...and also only made the test once..
And I also agree with you about your statement, in the end, I also choose zl over t...thanks...
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Benchmarks don't do a justice to T, right? They all are craps anyway - work only for 'expert' reviewers. By the way, you're not using any launcher app on ZL, right? I noticed a bit of lag on Nova after the latest update. So I switched back to stock launcher and it feels very snappy.
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Benchmarks don't do a justice to T, right? They all are craps anyway - work only for 'expert' reviewers. By the way, you're not using any launcher app on ZL, right? I noticed a bit of lag on Nova after the latest update. So I switched back to stock launcher and it feels very snappy.
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Yup, just as expected anyway...when benchmarking, it's seems they effectively use all the core for this result..so more core more score...
Like 7 said, maybe some of the new updated apps not optimized for quad so maybe for real life usage, it feels slower than more optimized phone even though its older..maybe more updates will solve it...
And no, I'm not using any launcher app. If I do I will be using the widget anyway cause xperia widget is to small and not eye catching enough..it's a matter of style anyway...
It's been a long time sinse I'm not using an android phone, so after I got these two and compare it, it just kept me over night, thinking..well, anyone need a snappy phone right..?
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I first owned the Xperia T and switched to ZL because I wanted LTE. I didn't notice differences in speed, both worked really well. One thing I noticed, is the much better battery life of the Xperia ZL. This was besides LTE a main concern when I used the Xperia T.
Nonetheless, a used Xperia T is one of the best deals you can get (at least in Germany) if you don't need LTE and long battery life.
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I first owned the Xperia T and switched to ZL because I wanted LTE. I didn't notice differences in speed, both worked really well. One thing I noticed, is the much better battery life of the Xperia ZL. This was besides LTE a main concern when I used the Xperia T.
Nonetheless, a used Xperia T is one of the best deals you can get (at least in Germany) if you don't need LTE and long battery life.
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Yup, I test it and some difference can be seen.. But I also acknowledge about the battery life..I have test to watch blu-ray video about 2 hours and surprisingly it still got 85% more battery in it without using power management...I have using more android power devises and when I watch it, it will drain half the battery in this format video in that length...really love the zl...
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So many people complaint that camera,video playback quality is very bad.but I dont accept this,using applications like procapture,camera fx are really good,and for video playback,i just trasfer 720p videos directly from computer,default player itself plays great.
What do you guys say? Or do you know any other better applications? Please share....
Sorry my English is bad
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Very powerful phone
giridhargp said:
So many people complaint that camera,video playback quality is very bad.but I dont accept this,using applications like procapture,camera fx are really good,and for video playback,i just trasfer 720p videos directly from computer,default player itself plays great.
What do you guys say? Or do you know any other better applications? Please share....
Sorry my English is bad
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It is indeed a very powerful phone.. 2 years back.. my s2 used to run like this.. s2 was bought for 28k and this one for 12.25k
Truly satisfied.. Do wateva u want on it.. ROOT it make it more faster and efficient.. My daily battery usage is just 30 to 40% with normal usage.. 3g.. games .. calling.. browsing.. music.. movies..etc etc etc
I recommend -- MX Player, Default Walkman for music and Stock Cam
maybe for some people, but not for me, xperia m is great
I think you're right about the camera, we should use other camera app for better quality, the stock camera is difficult to get the focus
durveshthorve433 said:
It is indeed a very powerful phone.. 2 years back.. my s2 used to run like this.. s2 was bought for 28k and this one for 12.25k
Truly satisfied.. Do wateva u want on it.. ROOT it make it more faster and efficient.. My daily battery usage is just 30 to 40% with normal usage.. 3g.. games .. calling.. browsing.. music.. movies..etc etc etc
I recommend -- MX Player, Default Walkman for music and Stock Cam
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Benchmark result for Xperia m is greater than s2.
And battery is really good,
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It is a phone which can even support high end games and the internal memory is the only thing which limits it. By rooting that problem is solved. Another issue I found is the display is not so vibrant or bright as That of Samsung or HTC and the home-back button coming in the touch screen I another stupid make. Otherwise it's one good for the price phone
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jmjjaison said:
It is a phone which can even support high end games and the internal memory is the only thing which limits it. By rooting that problem is solved. Another issue I found is the display is not so vibrant or bright as That of Samsung or HTC and the home-back button coming in the touch screen I another stupid make. Otherwise it's one good for the price phone
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See this
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jmjjaison said:
It is a phone which can even support high end games and the internal memory is the only thing which limits it. By rooting that problem is solved. Another issue I found is the display is not so vibrant or bright as That of Samsung or HTC and the home-back button coming in the touch screen I another stupid make. Otherwise it's one good for the price phone
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Also see this asphalt 8 on my device
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Yes this is one way ie. Swapping another is by creating a partition on sd
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jmjjaison said:
Yes this is one way ie. Swapping another is by creating a partition on sd
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I didn't create any partition on sd card,there s thread called "swaping internal memory and sd card,vice versa" I did that
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Sony XPERIA M
The XPERIA M (C1905) is a brilliant little phone.
I bought one for my mother♥.
The main drivers were:
● Light (115g)
● Long battery life (1 week with her usage)
● Small(ish) form factor (124 x 62 x 9.3 mm)
● Good GPU (Adreno 305, which says more about me than my mother)
● Stylish design (Purple requested)
The Sony XPERIA M really is a joy to use. When all the above is combined into one package at an attractive price, it is a true winner for the average user.
And the real bonus is my mother likes her first Android phone.
She just uses, txt/mms, phone, calendar, email, WhatsApp, Sony Weather widget, camera a bit and the other basics.
I have root'd the phone and removed Twitter and Facebook and most of the other 'bloatware'.
Use SetCPU with screen off profiles and thus able to reduce battery consumption to the minimum. (Approx. 7% per day if not used)
I was pleasantly surprised I could get 109Mbits/sec real throughput on 5Ghz WiFi.
The downside of the XPERIA M is that it is unlikely to ever see Android 4.3 or above and any upgrades will be contained within the current Android versions.
The 2GB user data storage is an inconvenience for those on a rooted phone, but a considerable barrier for those with a stock XPERIA M.
The camera has a distinct blue tint on some phones, which is very noticeable.
The camera can still take well defined photos and we should see improvements in this area as upgrades are released in the future :fingers-crossed:.
There is no MHL support on the XPERIA M (C1904/C1905) at this time. This may change in the future either provided by Sony or via XDA Developers.
Accessories
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSD card
MicroUSB 4-in-1 card reader.
Mugen 1900mAh battery for XPERIA L (which most likely will fit the XPERIA M)
Summary
If people bought an XPERIA M for the right reasons and NOT because they couldn't afford a Sony XPERIA Z1, the phone is very capable of providing the basic Android experience and in many cases way beyond Android phones with higher specs/prices.
Other phones in this range.
Nokia Lumia 520/525 - WP8, battery only 1430mAh, no NFC, Miracast or front facing camera. Same SoC as the XPERIA M.
If you can tear yourself away from Android, this phone is the big winner in smartphone steaks for the basic user, just on price alone.
Sony XPERIA L - Everything slightly bigger and heavier with prices still tracking the XPERIA M, but XPERIA M GPU performs better on smaller screen. Personal thing, but I like the looks of the XPERIA M better.
Samsung Galaxy Ace 3(LTE) - Ugly, A good phone in this range, but priced above the XPERIA M
Samsung Galaxy Core i8260 - Ugly, similar in specs to an XPERIA M, but with only an Adreno 203 GPU
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini - Ugly, betters the XPERIA M in almost all specs (both have Adreno 305), but more costly.
LG Optimums L5 and L9 - Mostly lower spec'd GPU.
HTC One mini - Over priced for what you get and no SDcard.
HTC Desire SV - Ugly, old GPU (Adreno 203) and quite heavy.
Dr Goodvibes said:
The XPERIA M (C1905) is a brilliant little phone.
I bought one for my mother♥.
The main drivers were:
● Light (115g)
● Long battery life (1 week with her usage)
● Small(ish) form factor (124 x 62 x 9.3 mm)
● Good GPU (Adreno 305, which says more about me than my mother)
● Stylish design (Purple requested)
The Sony XPERIA M really is a joy to use. When all the above is combined into one package at an attractive price, it is a true winner for the average user.
And the real bonus is my mother likes her first Android phone.
She just uses, txt/mms, phone, calendar, email, WhatsApp, Sony Weather widget, camera a bit and the other basics.
I have root'd the phone and removed Twitter and Facebook and most of the other 'bloatware'.
Use SetCPU with screen off profiles and thus able to reduce battery consumption to the minimum. (Approx. 7% per day if not used)
I was pleasantly surprised I could get 109Mbits/sec real throughput on 5Ghz WiFi.
The downside of the XPERIA M is that it is unlikely to ever see Android 4.3 or above and any upgrades will be contained within the current Android versions.
The 2GB user data storage is an inconvenience for those on a rooted phone, but a considerable barrier for those with a stock XPERIA M.
The camera has a distinct blue tint on some phones, which is very noticeable.
The camera can still take well defined photos and we should see improvements in this area as upgrades are released in the future :fingers-crossed:.
There is no MHL support on the XPERIA M (C1904/C1905) at this time. This may change in the future either provided by Sony or via XDA Developers.
Accessories
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSD card
MicroUSB 4-in-1 card reader.
Mugen 1900mAh for XPERIA L (which most likely will fit the XPERIA M)
Summary
If people bought an XPERIA M for the right reasons and NOT because they couldn't afford a Sony XPERIA Z1, the phone is very capable of providing the basic Android experience and in many cases way beyond Android phones with higher specs/prices.
Other phones in this range.
Nokia Lumia 520/525 - WP8, battery only 1430mAh, no NFC, Miracast or front facing camera. Same SoC as the XPERIA M.
If you can tear yourself away from Android, this phone is the big winner in smartphone steaks for the basic user, just on price alone.
Sony XPERIA L - Everything slightly bigger and heavier with prices still tracking the XPERIA M, but XPERIA M GPU performs better on smaller screen. Personal thing, but I like the looks of the XPERIA M better.
Samsung Galaxy Ace 3(LTE) - Ugly, A good phone in this range, but priced above the XPERIA M
Samsung Galaxy Core i8260 - Ugly, similar in specs to an XPERIA M, but with only an Adreno 203 GPU
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini - Ugly, betters the XPERIA M in almost all specs (both have Adreno 305), but more costly.
LG Optimums L5 and L9 - Mostly lower spec'd GPU.
HTC One mini - Over priced for what you get and no SDcard.
HTC Desire SV - Ugly, old GPU (Adreno 203) and quite heavy.
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Super.... Great review,,,,thanks
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Dr Goodvibes said:
The XPERIA M (C1905) is a brilliant little phone.
I bought one for my mother♥.
The main drivers were:
● Light (115g)
● Long battery life (1 week with her usage)
● Small(ish) form factor (124 x 62 x 9.3 mm)
● Good GPU (Adreno 305, which says more about me than my mother)
● Stylish design (Purple requested)
The Sony XPERIA M really is a joy to use. When all the above is combined into one package at an attractive price, it is a true winner for the average user.
And the real bonus is my mother likes her first Android phone.
She just uses, txt/mms, phone, calendar, email, WhatsApp, Sony Weather widget, camera a bit and the other basics.
I have root'd the phone and removed Twitter and Facebook and most of the other 'bloatware'.
Use SetCPU with screen off profiles and thus able to reduce battery consumption to the minimum. (Approx. 7% per day if not used)
I was pleasantly surprised I could get 109Mbits/sec real throughput on 5Ghz WiFi.
The downside of the XPERIA M is that it is unlikely to ever see Android 4.3 or above and any upgrades will be contained within the current Android versions.
The 2GB user data storage is an inconvenience for those on a rooted phone, but a considerable barrier for those with a stock XPERIA M.
The camera has a distinct blue tint on some phones, which is very noticeable.
The camera can still take well defined photos and we should see improvements in this area as upgrades are released in the future :fingers-crossed:.
There is no MHL support on the XPERIA M (C1904/C1905) at this time. This may change in the future either provided by Sony or via XDA Developers.
Accessories
SanDisk Extreme 64GB microSD card
MicroUSB 4-in-1 card reader.
Mugen 1900mAh for XPERIA L (which most likely will fit the XPERIA M)
Summary
If people bought an XPERIA M for the right reasons and NOT because they couldn't afford a Sony XPERIA Z1, the phone is very capable of providing the basic Android experience and in many cases way beyond Android phones with higher specs/prices.
Other phones in this range.
Nokia Lumia 520/525 - WP8, battery only 1430mAh, no NFC, Miracast or front facing camera. Same SoC as the XPERIA M.
If you can tear yourself away from Android, this phone is the big winner in smartphone steaks for the basic user, just on price alone.
Sony XPERIA L - Everything slightly bigger and heavier with prices still tracking the XPERIA M, but XPERIA M GPU performs better on smaller screen. Personal thing, but I like the looks of the XPERIA M better.
Samsung Galaxy Ace 3(LTE) - Ugly, A good phone in this range, but priced above the XPERIA M
Samsung Galaxy Core i8260 - Ugly, similar in specs to an XPERIA M, but with only an Adreno 203 GPU
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini - Ugly, betters the XPERIA M in almost all specs (both have Adreno 305), but more costly.
LG Optimums L5 and L9 - Mostly lower spec'd GPU.
HTC One mini - Over priced for what you get and no SDcard.
HTC Desire SV - Ugly, old GPU (Adreno 203) and quite heavy.
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Gsmarena confirms that our phone supports MHL...
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giridhargp said:
Super.... Great review,,,,thanks
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Thanks, but probably not a requirement to re-paste my war and peace epic on each subsequent post.
You're more than welcome to only quote a relevant extract/portion where relevant.
giridhargp said:
Gsmarena confirms that our phone supports MHL...
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That may not be correct for a C1904/C1905 Android v4.1.2 device.
MHL is not listed as supported in any Sony documentation and that includes the White Paper.
Have a generic MHL adapter arriving in a few days, so I'll know one way or the other.
Dr Goodvibes said:
That may not be correct for a C1904/C1905 Android v4.1.2 device.
MHL is not listed as supported in any Sony documentation and that includes the White Paper.
Have a generic MHL adapter arriving in a few days, so I'll know one way or the other.
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there are some indo guys using mhl in single...they showed the pics of using device with mhl...in fb group
Thats really cool
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@ansebovi - That would be way cool if MHL works. As mentioned I have a MHL adapter on a slow boat from China, so I'm always up for a challenge. Does one know if the 'indo guys' where using stock ROM, or if they'd mod'd something to get it to work.
Either way if someone has done it and documented/observed it working, it's a good sign.
Thanks all for the heads up.
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@ansebovi - That would be way cool if MHL works. As mentioned I have a MHL adapter on a slow boat from China, so I'm always up for a challenge. Does one know if the 'indo guys' where using stock ROM, or if they'd mod'd something to get it to work.
Either way if someone has done it and documented/observed it working, it's a good sign.
Thanks all for the heads up.
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i dont know him...
but i think only stock...
most Xperia M users were new to android or new to sony...so i think they didnt change it...
hey after I upgraded the firmware all of the issue about the camera n bluish screen was gone
Shammatt said:
hey after I upgraded the firmware all of the issue about the camera n bluish screen was gone
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Yup and cm 11 is released for Xperia m, have to try
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giridhargp said:
Yup and cm 11 is released for Xperia m, have to try
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it's awesome our xperia m get unofficial kitkat. I'm waiting for the stable version
Been a long time apple user ..since the original iphone in 2007. had every version of it. Got bored of ios and switched to Galaxy s3 last year and been quite happy so far. Last week i traded the S3 for Sony Xperia ZL..and man..i love this hardware and the version of android..
The sony launcher is by far the best one i've seen compared to the touchwiz and others..I used to have so many launchers and widgets on my S3 whereas i have no launchers and widgets on ZL.. The built in has all the features i need,,
Got the iphone 5S for the wife..but the display on ZL is quite something..camera is great. Battery life is reasonable (compared to my old S3) and the standard android customization is very handy..
Don't think i'll ever go back to ios or other android devices for a while.
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
Enviado desde mi C6502
melquisedec said:
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
Enviado desde mi C6502
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
I am waiting the update 4.3. Preying God mine fixed.
Enviado desde mi C6502
TheTofu said:
I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
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well good to hear that, but almost all problems that people have they all uses custom roms.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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einfachgaer said:
Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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well what I say is what I read on the web.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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i agree - i love the stock rom as well. I'm with bell in canada. My android version says 4.2.2 build number is 10.3.A.0.423
No updates according to update centre..is the latest .67 udpate not available to bell customers?
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
On latest Stock rom and 0 problems with this wonderful device. It's high end and a pleasure to use it.
Sent from my Xperia ZL
scifan said:
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
vhl71 said:
How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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I have no idea why it wouldn't be available via OTA.
As far as how to flash... search under the development forum for the ZL for Flashtool. There's also a thread that shows all of the different "rom" versions... I'd look there as well...
I am also super lucky with my ZL. Latest stock firmware and it is my first Android phone, where I don't feel the need for having root access...
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
mrsatan said:
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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Do it. The SP is a nice phone, but the ZL is leagues better in every way. You wont believe how small it really is until you hold it.
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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themanspirit said:
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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I've had the ZL for about a week now and I am pretty impressed with it. The size of the phone considering the screen size is amazing. It is a solid feeling phone and the red one I bought looks great. The battery life isn't too great compared to SP but that is to be expected. I downclocked it a bit so it does better and doesnt get as hot. The screen is miles better than the SP and the extra internal memory is nice. I did like the fact that the SP didn't have the stupid shatterproof sheet on it and it was advertised as gorilla glass. I also wish the IR blaster was on the top so I could hold it like a remote. I would have taken having the charging pins instead of the IR blaster. Still it is a good phone and probably the best designed five inch phone ever. I would have waited and gotten the Z1 compact but it's just too small for me now. 4.6 is perfect but 5 inch is great if the size is that of the ZL.
The vibration on the ZL is really weird compared to the SP. Its very strong, not sure if that is bad or good. The camera is soooo much better though.
Glad to read you are enjoying ZL.
Having sent mine in for RMA Support last month.
And since, been using first C6603, followed by now C5303.
Its highlighted to me just how superior the ZL is to these two more popular and widely available models.
IMHO Sony made a major mistake not to release the ZL in the same markets globally as Z.
As for the ZL's very strong vibration.
Yes, it is far stronger than both Z and SP.
That's been my experience too.
I don't doubt you are also enjoying the ZL's far superior outdoor visibility too.
As the Z, and the SP, displays are really mediocre by comparison when used outdoors in daylight.
I sure do miss ZL's superior loudspeaker performance too.
Particularly when using Navigation incar, or hearing it ring when you are in noisy environments.
So looking forward to the return of my ZL.
And seeing if Sony will release a true successor to the compact, limited market release, ZL.
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