not wanting to wait for a software exploit that may never come,user Sonic2756 has stepped up and purchased an htc service card,or java card,to provide the vzw one community with a "right now!" s off option. make sure yuo thank him in this thread: Purchased a JavaCard for S_OFF
this method uses an official htc java card to turn off the phones security data. the card exists as a legitimate tool for cell phone shops and re-sellers,primarily for the purpose of removing the phones simlock.
since this method of s off is somewhat unusual,this thread is intended to help support folks that are unsure of the differences and similarities.
first and foremost,these are my words,sonic has not helped with these posts,tho i hope he will let me know if theres anything he wants changed. if any info you see here and use melts your phone into a little pile of aluminum goo,its not sonics fault,nor is it mine. use this info at your own risk.
in this first post,i thot a few FAQs needed to be put in one place,as they are being asked over and over again in the thread.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: what is s off?what does it do for me?
A: in a nutshell,s-off=security off. it removes all security checks and allows access to all partitions of the phone this means you can:
-change hboot
-change splash inage
-change radios
-flash unsigned files
-go backwards in firmware versions
-other things that maybe ill add later
Q: is this legit??
A:yes,it is. as mentioned above,the java card is a legitimate tool used by some large cell phone repair shops and re-sellers.
Q: how does this work?
A:the java card is plugged into a USB On The Go cable,and plugged into the phone. the java card contains htc-signed diagnostic files wich are used to clear security data. when the phone is booted to hboot with the java card plugged in,it finds the diagnostic file and jumps to a mode where the user can clear "s58" data. this removes any simlock,changes the CID to a generic "supercid",and most importantly,turns off the phones radio secure flag. hooray!
this not sonic,nor is this an htc one. it is a one X using the same method,it will give you a good idea what the process looks like:
HTC One X S-OFF
Q: what exactly is a java card?
A: simply,a java card is an sd card with a microprocessor in it. if someone wishes to provide a more detailed definition,id be happy to put it here. a bit more info here
Q: can we clone the java card so everyone can have s off?
A: yes. but its complicated,and the card to begin with is expensive. there have been some technical discussions about this in sonic's original thread. the simple answer is that it is not easy,or practical to clone the java card.
Q: why do i have to pay for this?? shouldnt s off be free?
A: if you have a prollem paying for this service,you are welcome to purchase your own java card and offer the service for free. as has been stated,the java card is expensive- upwards of $1000 depending how may credits are included.
further,even if a software exploit was available,it is good custom to donate to the devs who brought you the tool. remember,no one here owes you custom roms,s-off,etc. support your devs and what they bring you. in this case,sonic has purchased an expensive htc tool,shipping supplies,and has to invest a great deal of time getting your phone s-offed,packed up,and hauled back to the post office. not to mention the website he has set up for the service. there is nothing wrong with making his $$ back,and a bit extra for his time and efforts.
Q: is the card good forever?
A: NO! the java card has a limited number of uses. he has stated he can sell about 250 s off services,and do 10 developer phones for free. after those credist are gone,you are SOL unless a new exploit is found,or there is enuff interest for sonic to buy a second card.
Q: how do i know how many credits are left?
A:Sonic's website shows the number of avaiable spots left, right above the quantity select/add to cart,in the "product description". simply go to the website,then click the htc one picture.
Q: if im allready unlocked,should i still get s off?
A: in my opinion,yes. s off is better. it allows more options to recover soft-bricked devices,and allows access to all partitions. an s on phone is still doing plenty of security checks. it also allows a permantly installed recovery to install the boot image. the downside is that your phone WILL let you brick it if your not careful. know what your flashing and why. double check md5 sums to verify the integrity of your downloads. a corrupt bootloader ot radio can damage your phone,potentially unrecoverably. if you just asked "what is an md5sum?" stop and google it now. there are numerous md5summers avaialable for free on the vast interweb,download one and start using it.
Q: if im allready unlocked and running a custom rom and recovery,do i need to take any precautions?
A: yes. the diag file is designed to work on stock software and firmware. i would strongly recomend to:
-restore a bone stock nandroid,or flash a bone stock rom
-reflash your stock recovery
-reflash your stock boot image if you were running a custom kernel
-select 'factory reset' option from hboot
Q: will this wipe my phone?
A: yes it will. so back up your sd card to the pc,and be prepaired to have to re-set everything up when you get it back.
Q: does my phone need to be active?
A: no it does not.
Q: do you need my sim card?
A: no he does not.
Q: what is the turn around time?
A: again,these are my words. from the thread,5-7 days. please remember sonic has real life activities to attend to,so you may want to wait until the initial wave has subsided. if he has alot of phones to do,it may take him longer.
Q: im a tight ass,can i use cheaper shipping?
A: yes,you can. the initial shipping is picked and paid for by you. be as tight as you want. the return shipping is priority mail with $600 worth of isurance. if you have such faith in the united states post office,and humanity that you do not feel this is needed,then you can chose the cheaper return shipping option sonic has provided.
Q: how do i activate a spare phone while mine is away?
A:it depends on the phone. if you have another 4g vzw phone,you can simply swap over your active sim. if the sim is larger in the spare phone,adapters do exist for extremely cheap on ebay and amazon. alternately,you can call vzw or go to their website to activate an older 3g device.
Q: how do i activate my phone when it comes back?
A: like you normally would. s off by itself does not change anything about the phone or how it oporates. its what you do afterward/modify that can have an impact on "normal" operation. so if you moved your sim into another phone,just move it back. if you mailed your phone directly to sonic with the protective film still on it,then take everything out of the box and activate just like you would if it had just come from vzw.
Q: will i be able to unlock the bootloader if my phone is s off?
A: yes. when the phone comes back,it will have "supercid". this ignores the mid(model id) check that htcdev does on the phone,and will let you get a token and unlock.
Q: are there advantages to unlocking the bootloader?
A: you have a couple extra fastboot commands you can use:
fastboot flash partition imagename.img
and
fastboot boot imagename.img
these commands are useful to install recovery,and boot images into phone memory. with fastboot bootfor example,you can temporarily launch recovery on the phone to flash su if you dont want to permantly install it.
Q: so do i NEED to unlock the bootloader to install recovery?
A: no,you do not. you can install recoveries and all other partitions as zip files. more info on that later.
Q: does superCID give you any benefits?
A: in a word,no. on a gsm device where you have multiple carrier and regional firmwares that will work,supercid is of value. with a device on vzw,you can only use vzw ruus anyway since this is a unique cdma/lte device. further,accepting an OTA with supercid could leave you unrecoverably bricked,plus it may interfer some some verizon functions(i remember inc 4g users having issue,but the details escape me)
IMO,after unlocking your bootloader,if you choose to do so,you should change your CID back to stock VZW__001 (thats 2 underscores- cid is always 8 digits)
Q: is my cid unique to my particulare phone?
A: no,it is not. it is unique to a carrier or region. all verizon phones ever made have a cid of VZW__001
Q: how do i change my cid back to stock?
A: with this fastboot command:
fastboot oem writecid VZW__001
Q: why is my cid always present on the hboot screen?
A: i dont know htc's logic,but this is simply what the phone does while its s off. it will display whatever your cid is,and is not dependent of your bootloader being locked or unlocked.
Q: what about the TAMPERED and unlocked/relocked badges?
A: if your phone was unlocked when you sent it in, youll get it back factory fresh locked. the tampered badge,i am unsure of at this time,and will update as more info is obtained.
if you sent in a brand new phone,it obviously wont be different(with exception of s off)
one of the big advantages of s off,is that the tampered flag is not triggered by adding a custom recovery or kernel,and since s off removes the various write protections that exist,it is posible to reset either flag. more info on the lock status flag here
Q: will an OTA change my s-off or lock status?
A: it is possible. altho,it is highly unlikely since turning the radio secure flags on via an OTA would also do so on legitimate pre-release test phones.
however...
it really is not reccomended that you try and take an OTA while rooted. a custom recovery is unable to install HTC's OTA pacakage,and attempting to do so ca jam you up horribly. taking an OTA with bloat and system files remove will typicaly result in failure,and taking an OTA with supercid could lead to a processor "do not boot" mode,wich is very effectively a hard brick only recoverable via jtag. or a new device.
the best way to update a rooted device is to update the rom with a recovery-flashable zip file,and the firmware extracted from the OTA package. this will update you just like taking the OTA. there is nothing magical about over the air updates. please,just do it manually. leave the OTAs for the stock crowd.
last and not least!
Q: im convinced! what do i do once i get back my stock,s-off phone?
A: please see post 2
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the above was just off the top of my head,ill add to them later as they come to me,feel free to post if you have further questions,costructuve criticism,or feedback.
once you have recieved your stock,s off device back,your basic steps are:
1)change CID back to stock verizon
2)install a recovery
3)install a rom or root access
you have 2 options to install recovery:
1)unlock the bootloader and use fastboot commands
2)leave the bootloader locked,and flash a recovery as a zip file in RUU mode
either way works. i personally always keep my bootloader unlocked so i can use fastboot commands,but we dont know for sure if the lock status flag can be reset,so the bootloader screen reads locked again.
its remotely possible that it may be difficult to reset the lock status flag,so if being locked for a possible warranty exchange is important to you,dont unlock just yet. relocked is the best you can do without some trickery.
to "root by recovery" is not a new concept. once there are no write protections,its easy to install a custom recovery,and use that recovery to either insert the superuser files into the stock rom,or replace the rom entirely.
1) change cid back to stock verizon
this is actually very easy. simply put the phone in fastboot,change to fastboot directory,and enter in a cmd window:
fastboot oem writecid VZW__001
yes,those must be capital letters,and there are 2 underscores.
2) install a recovery
via one of these 2 methods:
1)unlock the bootloader
your phone has come back from sonic with "supercid",wich will allow you to unlock the bootloader natuarally via the htcdev website. see this post for a bit more info on that.
unlocking the bootloader is fairly straightforward,just make sure you use a vzw one specific image. download from one of the following threads:
twrp
clockworkmod touch or classic
the image is easily installed via an unlocked bootloader with the following command:
fastboot flash recovery imagename.img
for example,recovery named CW_touch_recovery:
fastboot flash recovery CW_touch_recovery.img
the image must be in your fastboot working directory.
if you need more specific help with unlock/recovery flashing you can use this guide.
2) keep locked bootloader
the bootloader can stay locked for this method. you can in fact use this to install a new image to any partition,as long as the image is packed up in a proper file.
this assumes a working adb/fastboot and drivers installed. if you dont have these things,you can use this guide from above,downloading the files in post 1,and following the set up adb and prepair to root part in step 2.
once you have adb and fastboot working,download one of the following recovery zip files. do NOT unzip or extract.
twrp: http://www.mediafire.com/download/6gbk9s5y6angyf9/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.1-m7vzw.zip
CW touch: http://www.mediafire.com/download/43h8k47blfboci9/recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.6-m7vzw.zip
CW classic: http://www.mediafire.com/download/w57cqx7cpmxbz44/recovery-clockwork-6.0.3.6-m7vzw.zip
your zip file is flashed in the following manner:
if youre working with a booted,operational phone,you can flsh the file in the following manner:
-open a cmd window
-change to adb/fastboot directory
cd c:\foldername
(cd c:\mini-adb if youve used any of my guides )
-place the zip file you want to flash into adb/fastboot directory
-enable usb debug,disable fastboot,plug in phone
-check for connectivity
adb devices (should return serial number)
-boot to fastboot
adb reboot bootloader
-check for connectivity again
fastboot devices
-flash the file
fastboot erase cache
fastboto oem rebootRUU (will put you in ruu mode,black screen silver htc letters)
fastboot flash zip zipfilename.zip (will send and flash the file. dont interupt it while the cmd window shows its writinging,and the green status bar is moving on the phone screen)
*sometimes a file will fail with a pre-update error. this is normal,just enter again:
fastboot flash zip zipfilename.zip
and this time it will finish
-when you get "finished" and "OK"
fastboot reboot-bootloader (takes you back to fastboot)
-reboot back to the OS
fastbooot reboot
you can use this if you dont have an operational phone as well. you just need to manually put the phone in fastboot(select from hboot menu) then skip the "adb" commands and start with fastboot devices
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3) install a rom or root access
this is a simple matter of using recovery to either flash superuser,or flash a new rom. in either case,MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR STOCK UNROOTED ROM!
flash superuser just as you would a rom,after a cache/dalvik wipe. theres tons of info out there on using recovery,so im not going in to great detail on that here.
i dont have this device(well,i dont have the vzw version) so dont ask me whats the best rom to flash. browse the development and original development sections and pick a couple out to try.
if you wish to just run rooted stock,i perosnally prefer superSU to other versions of superuser. you can download it from this thread
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optional:
if you sent in your phone with a custom recovery installed,and it still is displaying the tampered banner,see this thread to remove it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46182709#post46182709
if you want to lock,or unlock your bootloader without messing with htcdev,see this thread for those directions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470340
if you want to restore your supermid from PN073**** back to stock verizon,see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490777
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*work in progress. there will likely be some revisions,but i wanted to get something up for the folks whose devices are coming back
mine too!
thanks for this. Guess I need to order a sim adapter so I can mail my phone off.
nrfitchett4 said:
thanks for this. Guess I need to order a sim adapter so I can mail my phone off.
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your welcome. ill get some more added to it,how tos and such in the next day or 2. but for now im tired and 5am comes early,lol.
for what its worth,ive used sim adapters like these:
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-card-ad...=1378950374&sr=8-14&keywords=sim+card+adapter
and these:
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Micr...=1378950374&sr=8-13&keywords=sim+card+adapter
and personally found the ones with an open back to be a lil easier to use. i switch my sim around alot(to the point its wearing out and ill prolly need a new one soon )
saved
thank you!
Thanks
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scotty1223 said:
your welcome. ill get some more added to it,how tos and such in the next day or 2. but for now im tired and 5am comes early,lol.
for what its worth,ive used sim adapters like these:
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-card-ad...=1378950374&sr=8-14&keywords=sim+card+adapter
and these:
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Micr...=1378950374&sr=8-13&keywords=sim+card+adapter
and personally found the ones with an open back to be a lil easier to use. i switch my sim around alot(to the point its wearing out and ill prolly need a new one soon )
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yeah, just found one that has adapters for nano up to mini. Will be here friday. Will have to live with the rezound for a week.
Thanks so much for making this!
I'm working with Sonic on this (mainly setting up and maintaining the website), but I would like to offer some insight on the JavaCard:
A Javacard is a special type of microsd card (smart card, this is the same thing as those NFC wallets or whatever that use a smart cards) that contains a microprocessor. It also has a signed and encrypted java applet that is set up to run whatever the maker wants it to. In this case HTC set it up to communicate with the phone for diagnostic services. It is also capable of carrier unlocking the phone. Due to digital signatures (when this card is almost burned I'm planning on taking a look at it) the card only has a certain number of phones that can be s offed or unlocked (it works on a credit system - 2 credits s off 1 credit carrier unlock). Everything on the card is locked up like fort knox to my knowledge but we shall see!
We also currently have the diag files needed for several other phones and can S-off them too. Not sure of all of them atm but Sonic posted it in the other thread a few days ago.
Cheers!
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
Question, If where s-offed then HTCdev unlock with super sid then change the sid to VZW but somehow get locked again I.e. OTA update, is it possible to unlock again or change the sid back to super sid to unlock?
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RebelShadow said:
Question, If where s-offed then HTCdev unlock with super sid then change the sid to VZW but somehow get locked again I.e. OTA update, is it possible to unlock again or change the sid back to super sid to unlock?
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+1 I had the same question.
And again, why would you take said OTA to begin with? It goes against every principle of rooting. If you root, you NEVER take OTA's.
If you get it, either post the ota zip or link and wait for someone to patch the base up with it. It doesn't make the update better if you take the one that downloads to your phone versus flashing an updated rom.
I don't know what it is about OTA's that makes people willing to jump through hoops just to take the "official" one.
CNexus said:
And again, why would you take said OTA to begin with? It goes against every principle of rooting.
If you get it, either post the ota zip or link and wait for someone to patch the base up with it. It doesn't make the update better if you take the one that downloads to your phone versus flashing an updated rom.
I don't know what it is about OTA's that makes people willing to jump through hoops just to take the "official" one.
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I can't speak for RebelShadow but I meant more along the lines of if we S-OFF and something happens - via VZW - that reestablishes S-ON.. can it be S-OFF'd again without the Java Card?
I mean I don't know if there is anything VZW could do to reestablish S-ON, and I've heard even if they could they wouldn't because they would mess with legitimate developers.
It's not that I want to take OTA's, I'd refuse them and wait for the community to provide it. It was more of a 'what happens if S-OFF is switched back to S-ON'?
If S-OFF ever gets toggled back to s-on, the game is over. You would need some updated exploit or another java card round.
It's like leaving your house with your keys inside. There's no way back in unless you find some back door.
So I originally had an unlocked bootloader with Twrp recovery and sent it to sonic for s-off. He did his java card magic and now I'm good. Mine has tampered now and just curious what is the best way, if possible right now, to get rid of it?
isoh said:
Thanks so much for making this!
I'm working with Sonic on this (mainly setting up and maintaining the website), but I would like to offer some insight on the JavaCard:
A Javacard is a special type of microsd card (smart card, this is the same thing as those NFC wallets or whatever that use a smart cards) that contains a microprocessor. It also has a signed and encrypted java applet that is set up to run whatever the maker wants it to. In this case HTC set it up to communicate with the phone for diagnostic services. It is also capable of carrier unlocking the phone. Due to digital signatures (when this card is almost burned I'm planning on taking a look at it) the card only has a certain number of phones that can be s offed or unlocked (it works on a credit system - 2 credits s off 1 credit carrier unlock). Everything on the card is locked up like fort knox to my knowledge but we shall see!
We also currently have the diag files needed for several other phones and can S-off them too. Not sure of all of them atm but Sonic posted it in the other thread a few days ago.
Cheers!
Sent from my SGH-M919 using xda app-developers app
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your quite welcome! just my little part to help you guys out,this is a great service that is being offered. sonic has done my one x,but i was unsure the extent that he is willing to do other devices,i figure folks can contact him prior to purchasing the service if they wish for other models to be done. better way to say it,i was unsure how much he wanted to advertise the other models he had the diags for. if the vzw s-offs slow down,id be happy to add the list of phones to the OP,and replicate this in other forums. im sure the tegra 3 one x and x+ crowds would have some interest,those devices have been out a long time with no exploit for s off,and no real hope on the horizon.
my one x is one of my favorite all time devices. i use it at work,and use my one in the evenings. im actually considering seeking out a black one x to send him as well
thanks for the insight on the java card,ill add it,or a link to it,in the OP
RebelShadow said:
Question, If where s-offed then HTCdev unlock with super sid then change the sid to VZW but somehow get locked again I.e. OTA update, is it possible to unlock again or change the sid back to super sid to unlock?
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one4thewings said:
+1 I had the same question.
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an OTA is unlikely to change your lock status,or your radio secure flag. while it is technically possible,this would also break legitimate test devices functionality,so the chances of it are slim to none.
there is not much reason to relock your bootloader with s off. you can run an ruu with the phone unlocked. to directly answer your question,however,if you did relock the bootloader,you can easily change the cid back to 11111111 with the same comand and re-unlock
fastboot oem writecid xxxxxxxx
or
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
to re-supercid
Thank you for answering without the "OTA" rant. I not not concerned with taking an OTA as I'm planning on using a custom ROM but was asking as a what if / just in case scenario.
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andybones said:
so once we get the phone back and we have unlocked with htc dev to get unlocked bootloader, and want to go back to stock CID
the fastboot command is
"fastboot oem writecid xxxxxxxx"
and not just "fastboot oem writecid"
or do you have to have those (8) "x"'s?
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Not quite sure if I know what you're saying, but to go back to the stock CID is:
fastboot oem writecid VZW__001
I think the x's he put are just to show that you can put in any 8 numbers, as long as they're all the same (ie. 22222222, 77777777) to get Super-CID back.
Nevermind, 11111111 is Super, VZW__001 is stock.
PapaSmurf6768 said:
Not quite sure if I know what you're saying, but to go back to the stock CID is:
fastboot oem writecid VZW__001
I think the x's he put are just to show that you can put in any 8 numbers, as long as they're all the same (ie. 22222222, 77777777) to get Super-CID back.
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ahh sh*t I am a dumb$$, thank you
I see now that the "VZW__001" is the 8 x's and different for each carrier, thank you!
got confused for a second there.
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Hi
I've got a Bell Desire Z. I bought it brand new and "unlocked" from a guy on Craigslist, who told me it came direct from HTC as a sample for a photoshoot and was already unlocked. Sure enough, it worked with my non-Bell SIM card just fine. I now use MIUI, love it.
I've been having a few funny issues with the radio (12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M) such as sometimes I make a call and the other person can't hear me, or I answer a call, same problem, or the call comes through all garbled. I want to see if upgrading the radio will fix this.
1. How do I know what type of unlock my phone has? I didn't put the engineering HBOOT on there, but if it is already on there, how can I tell? I've got it rooted, can I tell if the radio is already S-OFF? I've read tons of stuff and I can't figure this one out.
2. How do I flash the PC10MSgwhatever.zip file onto the phone?
3. Will flashing this break my unlock?
Thanks for taking the time to help me. You guys are the best
Answers
Hi,
to answer your questions:
1. one way of getting some information out of your phone is to use the AMT-Tool to query the device info and the security status. You can find the tool in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097977&page=1
The latest version 1.8.5 is somewhat wacky though and sometimes claims, that it can not query or manipulate your phone, although you are already rooted and have the right software version installed. So do not rely on this tool for further flashing your phone. But the queries usually work fine and produce results.
If you run into trouble with the 1.8.5 you might want to download and try the older 1.8.1 which seems to be more stable and can be found here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26590769/AMT181.zip
You don't have to install the files, just unzipping them to a new directory is sufficient, so you can unpack and use both versions parallel without any troubles.
Another way to find out the version of your HBOOT is by shutting off your phone and then holding the ON-Button and the TrackPad-Button (that square thing at the bottom of your display) at the same time until the phone boots into the bootloader screen. There is the version of your HBOOT displayed.
2. I am not sure, what exactly you want to flash, but if it is something like a PC10IMG.zip, usually all you have to do is put it into the root-area of your SD-Card (so do NOT put it into any subfolder) and then again boot into the bootloader by the method above. Then select the first option called "Bootloader" (which usually is already pre-selected) and press the ON-Button once to confirm the choice. The phone automatically searches for any PC10IMG-Files on your SD-Card and then asks you, if you want to flash that Image.
Don't forget to delete the file from your SD-Card afterwards, otherwise your phone will try to flash the Image again the next time you boot into the Bootloader!
3. Depends. As far as I have learned, flashing only the Radio should not tamper with your root or unlock. But I am quite new to the Android-World myself and would not want to guarantee the correctness of that statement. All I can tell is, that the 2nd phone I have rooted was the Vodafone Branded and SIM-locked phone of my wife. After de-branding, rooting and unlocking it, I flashed it with the Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 ROM and in a 2nd step also flashed the latest Radio onto it. Both did NOT break the UNLOCK. But since I don't know by which method your phone was rooted and unlocked, all I can do is speculate.
But even if you should break your UNLOCK somehow, it shouldn't be too hard to re-ROOT and re-UNLOCK it by following any of the many HOW-TOs published in this forum.
You can find the Link to all the HTC Desire Z Radios in my signature. There are a lot versions available that are newer than yours. As far as I have read in other threads, you can safely flash and try out several radios on your phone, but again no guarantees on that statement.
But keep in mind, that you might also need to align the Radio Library with the Radio depending on your ROM. This thread will tell you more about that process.
Hope that helped...
Tronar
not wanting to wait for a software exploit that may never come,user Sonic2756 has stepped up and purchased an htc service card,or java card,to provide the vzw one community with a "right now!" s off option. make sure yuo thank him in this thread: Purchased a JavaCard for S_OFF
read this:
Sonic has recently decided to extend the offer to other devices for which a software exploit does not exist. *PLEASE post in his thread and ask him if he has the diag file for your particular MID before purchasing a credit
ALSO NOTE that this service is being offered to US customers only,unless other arrangenments are made with him prior.
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you may purchase an s off credit here: http://htc.s26tech.com/
this method uses an official htc java card to turn off the phones security data. the card exists as a legitimate tool for cell phone shops and re-sellers,primarily for the purpose of removing the phones simlock.
since this method of s off is somewhat unusual,this thread is intended to help support folks that are unsure of the differences and similarities.
first and foremost,these are my words,sonic has not helped with these posts,tho i hope he will let me know if theres anything he wants changed. if any info you see here and use melts your phone into a little pile of aluminum goo,its not sonics fault,nor is it mine. use this info at your own risk.
in this first post,i thot a few FAQs needed to be put in one place,as they are being asked over and over again in the thread.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: what is s off?what does it do for me?
A: in a nutshell,s-off=security off. it removes all security checks and allows access to all partitions of the phone this means you can:
-change hboot
-change splash inage
-change radios
-flash unsigned files
-go backwards in firmware versions
-other things that maybe ill add later
Q: is this legit??
A:yes,it is. as mentioned above,the java card is a legitimate tool used by some large cell phone repair shops and re-sellers.
Q: how does this work?
A:the java card is plugged into a USB On The Go cable,and plugged into the phone. the java card contains htc-signed diagnostic files wich are used to clear security data. when the phone is booted to hboot with the java card plugged in,it finds the diagnostic file and jumps to a mode where the user can clear "s58" data. this removes any simlock,changes the CID to a generic "supercid",and most importantly,turns off the phones radio secure flag. hooray!
this not sonic,nor is this an htc one. it is a one X using the same method,it will give you a good idea what the process looks like:
HTC One X S-OFF
Q: what exactly is a java card?
A: simply,a java card is an sd card with a microprocessor in it. if someone wishes to provide a more detailed definition,id be happy to put it here. a bit more info here
Q: can we clone the java card so everyone can have s off?
A: yes. but its complicated,and the card to begin with is expensive. there have been some technical discussions about this in sonic's original thread. the simple answer is that it is not easy,or practical to clone the java card.
Q: why do i have to pay for this?? shouldnt s off be free?
A: if you have a prollem paying for this service,you are welcome to purchase your own java card and offer the service for free. as has been stated,the java card is expensive- upwards of $1000 depending how may credits are included.
further,even if a software exploit was available,it is good custom to donate to the devs who brought you the tool. remember,no one here owes you custom roms,s-off,etc. support your devs and what they bring you. in this case,sonic has purchased an expensive htc tool,shipping supplies,and has to invest a great deal of time getting your phone s-offed,packed up,and hauled back to the post office. not to mention the website he has set up for the service. there is nothing wrong with making his $$ back,and a bit extra for his time and efforts.
Q: is the card good forever?
A: NO! the java card has a limited number of uses. he has stated he can sell about 250 s off services,and do 10 developer phones for free. after those credist are gone,you are SOL unless a new exploit is found,or there is enuff interest for sonic to buy a second card.
Q: how do i know how many credits are left?
A:Sonic's website shows the number of avaiable spots left, right above the quantity select/add to cart,in the "product description". simply go to the website,then click the htc one picture.
Q: how do i use this service?
A:go to his website and purchase an s off service. http://htc.s26tech.com/
Q: where do i send my phone?
A: his address is on his website: http://htc.s26tech.com/about/
Q: if im allready unlocked,should i still get s off?
A: in my opinion,yes. s off is better. it allows more options to recover soft-bricked devices,and allows access to all partitions. an s on phone is still doing plenty of security checks. it also allows a permantly installed recovery to install the boot image. the downside is that your phone WILL let you brick it if your not careful. know what your flashing and why. double check md5 sums to verify the integrity of your downloads. a corrupt bootloader ot radio can damage your phone,potentially unrecoverably. if you just asked "what is an md5sum?" stop and google it now. there are numerous md5summers avaialable for free on the vast interweb,download one and start using it.
Q: if im allready unlocked and running a custom rom and recovery,do i need to take any precautions?
A: yes. the diag file is designed to work on stock software and firmware. i would strongly recomend to:
-restore a bone stock nandroid,or flash a bone stock rom
-reflash your stock recovery
-reflash your stock boot image if you were running a custom kernel
-select 'factory reset' option from hboot
Q: will this wipe my phone?
A: yes it will. so back up your sd card to the pc,and be prepaired to have to re-set everything up when you get it back.
Q: does my phone need to be active?
A: no it does not.
Q: do you need my sim card?
A: no he does not.
Q: what is the turn around time?
A: again,these are my words. from the thread,5-7 days. please remember sonic has real life activities to attend to,so you may want to wait until the initial wave has subsided. if he has alot of phones to do,it may take him longer.
Q: im a tight ass,can i use cheaper shipping?
A: yes,you can. the initial shipping is picked and paid for by you. be as tight as you want. the return shipping is priority mail with $600 worth of isurance. if you have such faith in the united states post office,and humanity that you do not feel this is needed,then you can chose the cheaper return shipping option sonic has provided.
Q: how do i activate a spare phone while mine is away?
A:it depends on the phone. if you have another 4g vzw phone,you can simply swap over your active sim. if the sim is larger in the spare phone,adapters do exist for extremely cheap on ebay and amazon. alternately,you can call vzw or go to their website to activate an older 3g device.
Q: how do i activate my phone when it comes back?
A: like you normally would. s off by itself does not change anything about the phone or how it oporates. its what you do afterward/modify that can have an impact on "normal" operation. so if you moved your sim into another phone,just move it back. if you mailed your phone directly to sonic with the protective film still on it,then take everything out of the box and activate just like you would if it had just come from vzw.
Q: will i be able to unlock the bootloader if my phone is s off?
A: yes. when the phone comes back,it will have "supercid". this ignores the mid(model id) check that htcdev does on the phone,and will let you get a token and unlock.
Q: are there advantages to unlocking the bootloader?
A: you have a couple extra fastboot commands you can use:
fastboot flash partition imagename.img
and
fastboot boot imagename.img
these commands are useful to install recovery,and boot images into phone memory. with fastboot bootfor example,you can temporarily launch recovery on the phone to flash su if you dont want to permantly install it.
Q: so do i NEED to unlock the bootloader to install recovery?
A: no,you do not. you can install recoveries and all other partitions as zip files. more info on that later.
Q: does superCID give you any benefits?
A: on a gsm device where you have multiple carrier and regional firmwares that will work,supercid is of value. with a device on vzw,you can only use vzw ruus anyway since this is a unique cdma/lte device. further,accepting an OTA with supercid could leave you unrecoverably bricked,plus it may interfer some some verizon functions(i remember inc 4g users having issue,but the details escape me)
IMO,you should change your CID back to stock afterward. if you do not know your stock CID,you should check it prior to sending off your device. you can find it with fastboot getvar all or fastboot getvar cid. if you wish to "debrand" your phone,you can always change it to a somewhat universal HTC__001 (2 underscores)
Q: is my cid unique to my particulare phone?
A: no,it is not. it is unique to a carrier or region.
Q: how do i change my cid back to stock?
A: with this fastboot command:
fastboot oem writecid xxxxxxxx (where xxxxxxxx is your stock cid)
Q: why is my cid always present on the hboot screen?
A: i dont know htc's logic,but this is simply what the phone does while its s off. it will display whatever your cid is,and is not dependent of your bootloader being locked or unlocked.
Q: what about the TAMPERED and unlocked/relocked badges?
A: if your phone was unlocked when you sent it in, youll get it back factory fresh locked. the tampered badge,i am unsure of at this time,and will update as more info is obtained.
if you sent in a brand new phone,it obviously wont be different(with exception of s off)
one of the big advantages of s off,is that the tampered flag is not triggered by adding a custom recovery or kernel,and since s off removes the various write protections that exist,it is posible to reset either flag. more info on the lock status flag here
Q: will an OTA change my s-off or lock status?
A: it is possible. altho,it is highly unlikely since turning the radio secure flags on via an OTA would also do so on legitimate test phones.
however...
it really is not reccomended that you try and take an OTA while rooted. a custom recovery is unable to install HTC's OTA pacakage,and attempting to do so ca jam you up horribly. taking an OTA with bloat and system files remove will typicaly result in failure,and taking an OTA with supercid could lead to a processor "do not boot" mode,wich is very effectively a hard brick only recoverable via jtag. or a new device.
the best way to update a rooted device is to update the rom with a recovery-flashable zip file,and the firmware extracted from the OTA package. this will update you just like taking the OTA. there is nothing magical about over the air updates. please,just do it manually. leave the OTAs for the stock crowd.
last and not least!
Q: im convinced! what do i do once i get back my stock,s-off phone?
A: please see post 2
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the above was just off the top of my head,ill add to them later as they come to me,feel free to post if you have further questions,costructuve criticism,or feedback.
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Looks cool so sonic will provide service for hox too?
HTC ONE X
3498BoyZ said:
Looks cool so sonic will provide service for hox too?
HTC ONE X
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yes.
sorry for the late reply. he did my one x,thats why im helping him by putting this thread here
scotty1223 said:
yes.
sorry for the late reply. he did my one x,thats why im helping him by putting this thread here
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OK but USA is sooooooo far from me If I send to him he will receive after 2 weeks. And when he send me back more two weeks. Must to have easy way to S-OFF our device
Ultimately we all knew it's the only way to s–off. +100 to the Op.
Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.
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Ultimately we all knew it's the only way to s–off. +100 to the Op.
Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.
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Yes but if the devs found a way to share java card over internet mybe will be more ease. You Pay on the guy with the java gard and you use one time the java over internet from home. This will be really good solution if they found a way to do that
I can donate but waiting so many weeks... And probably HOX can be lost during so long way...
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Will he do eng or ship s-off and can I ship it from germany?
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I can donate but waiting so many weeks... And probably HOX can be lost during so long way...
Sent from HOX with ARHD 31.2
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This will work on the international hox or only us version
Sent via HTC One X!
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This will work on the international hox or only us version
Sent via HTC One X!
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it is intended for international HOX(endeavor_u) as there are other means to s off HOXL(evita)
the uk users we have http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk which does htc s-off. i sent my phone on monday morning, they got the phone tuesday, during the day i was getting updates throught email about where the phone is, same day sent back to me, got it back this morning s-offed and supercid. great service and legit if anyone has any doubt.
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the uk users we have http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk which does htc s-off. i sent my phone on monday morning, they got the phone tuesday, during the day i was getting updates throught email about where the phone is, same day sent back to me, got it back this morning s-offed and supercid. great service and legit if anyone has any doubt.
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Your phone is HTC One X Tegra 3? If yes you have make it stock before send it to them? Stock recovery, stock boot.img and stock Rom?
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Your phone is HTC One X Tegra 3? If yes you have make it stock before send it to them? Stock recovery, stock boot.img and stock Rom?
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yes sir, it's tegra 3, and it was fully stock with locked bootloader.
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yes sir, it's tegra 3, and it was fully stock with locked bootloader.
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You can post your boot loader screenshot please?
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Do you think I can send my phone from Germany to them?
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Hello XDA members!
I am a very proud owner of this amazing phone, i come from a Samsung Galaxy S4 to this piece of art.
So, the first thing i did was to come here and start searching for some things i would like to know, i browsed this for like 1hour and i still didn't find answers for this:
- I am a European Version of this Phone, when i turned it on, there was a software update, so i did it, and now i am on version 1.57.118.2 , this leads me to two questions:
-- Is this the most recent FW version for this phone?
-- I don't have Extreme power saving mode, why??
- Wich is the FW that gets the updates more quickly?
- After some search about rooting this device, i need to S-OFF it and then Root it right? And so, my questions are, rooting and S-OFF'ing my phone, voids my Warranty?
- Is it possible to root the phone and keep OTA updates?
Sorry for too many questions, i will promise i will never create again another thread like this, i just need help at start then i will be ready to go on my own
Best regards.
I can't answer all the questions but I'll answer the ones I know for sure.
You don't have to have s-off to root, you do need to unlock the boot loader (a quick search will show you how) and flash a custom recovery ( cm, twrp, Philz etc.). This will void your warranty but there are many threads about how to return to stock. Be sure to BACKUP.
There are many great Roms on here that include the the extreme power saving mode, browse around the development board and try some our till you find one that you like.
Hope this help
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Hello XDA members!
I am a very proud owner of this amazing phone, i come from a Samsung Galaxy S4 to this piece of art.
So, the first thing i did was to come here and start searching for some things i would like to know, i browsed this for like 1hour and i still didn't find answers for this:
- I am a European Version of this Phone, when i turned it on, there was a software update, so i did it, and now i am on version 1.57.118.2 , this leads me to two questions:
-- Is this the most recent FW version for this phone?
-- I don't have Extreme power saving mode, why??
- Wich is the FW that gets the updates more quickly?
- After some search about rooting this device, i need to S-OFF it and then Root it right? And so, my questions are, rooting and S-OFF'ing my phone, voids my Warranty?
- Is it possible to root the phone and keep OTA updates?
Sorry for too many questions, i will promise i will never create again another thread like this, i just need help at start then i will be ready to go on my own
Best regards.
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1) I believe that's the most recent FW update for T-Mobile Poland.
2) I don't have a real answer as to why you still don't have extreme power saving mode, perhaps it's the carriers choice for whatever reason.
3) Devices that gets updates more quickly: 1) Google Play Edition device. 2) HTC WWE (International) & HTC WWE (Asia) . 3) Developer Edition. 4) The rest of the world with carrier branded phones at of course the leisure of the carriers. They first have to mess it up with bloatware then spend weeks trying to fix the mess before sending the OTA to mess up your device.
4) Yes, tampering with the device in any way voids warranty. Though it is my understanding that some countries in the EU overlook these sorts of things to some degree. However, given then the fact that you are S-OFF you can return your device to 100% stock which should be good for warranty issues. The only thing that "might" give it away is, if you prefer to stay S-OFF though the carrier has to prove that you did something wrong as apparently some HTC devices do leave the factories in an S-OFF condition already.
You could attempt to go back to S-ON though some here don't recommend it as it could throw out a security flag that'll completely give your tampering away or even worst, it could get bricked. I think the thread that discussed it was in the Verizon forums, you could perhaps check it out there, the thread starter was Scotty, the same guy that gives the guide to removing the tampered banner on the phone. [how to] remove your "tampered" banner
5) Yes you can root the phone and still receive OTA updates, however if you do the OTA update you'll lose root. It's easy enough to re-root again though. Of course if you flash a custom recovery you need to flash back the stock recovery again. Your device needs to be in original state to receive OTA in other words... Any deleted apps(Like Facebook) needs to be put back, stock recovery, stock ROM, stock Kernel.
You can however boot the custom recovery and still root, that way you keep your stock recovery intact. If you do want to flash a custom recovery, MAKE A BACKUP of your stock recovery first. There are currently none available for your device that I can find so it's imperative, else later on when you decide to go back to stock you'll sit without a recovery.
You can boot Philz and make a complete nandroid backup selecting everything including recovery OR you can make a backup of recovery as follows:
You must be rooted, can get root with Towel Root. You must have adb installed, open command prompt in adb folder, connect phone to device and type:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/emmc
This will display the partition lay out of your device and search for recovery, for me it's in block 43(I think it should be for you as well) then type:
Code:
su - [I][B]grant the phone root privilege when the pop up comes up on phone[/B][/I]
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p43 of=/sdcard/recovery.img
What that does is convert and make a copy of the recovery partition mmcblk043 (The "if" or input filepath) onto the "of" (output filepath) /sdcard as "recovery.img". That's it, that's your backup of stock recovery.
When you need to go back to stock you can just flash it via fastboot with:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
I would suggest the dd method for a stock recovery as only Philz makes a backup of recovery, TWRP does NOT make a backup, which is a bit of a problem. Of course when you made the backup, the file isn't that big so maybe you could upload it and share it in the Collection thread along with your nandroid backup, it could come in handy to help many other people that don't do it. :good:
Thank you very much for you helping i really appreciate it! So i have one question, i really want the Extreme Power Saving mode, so my question is... Can i change the original firmware to another one safelly without warranty voids or something? Damn, i am in Portugal, and i got a cellphone from Poland lol.
didi_ghost said:
Thank you very much for you helping i really appreciate it! So i have one question, i really want the Extreme Power Saving mode, so my question is... Can i change the original firmware to another one safelly without warranty voids or something? Damn, i am in Portugal, and i got a cellphone from Poland lol.
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Yeah if you get S-OFF you can convert your device to pretty much any variant(CDMA excluded so no Sprint/Verizon as far as I know).
I'd convert it to the international version HTC__001 that way you get your extreme power saving mode and you also get the latest updates way before any carrier sends it out.
Interesting, did you buy the device over Amazon or some sort of related online service? Did they advertise it as international unlocked? I've seen a couple of guys on here that bought devices like that from Amazon or related services that advertised as such. At the very least if they did advertise as international unlocked then actually converting to international can't "void" it then, can it?
Seen guys from France get English, guys from Poland buying from Spain and actually getting French device, a guy from Argentina that got one or other US variant... very mixed up. Even I got some other variant, imported mine from the UK to South Africa but it's also a French HTC__203 device. EU... what can we say?
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Yeah if you get S-OFF you can convert your device to pretty much any variant(CDMA excluded so no Sprint/Verizon as far as I know).
I'd convert it to the international version HTC__001 that way you get your extreme power saving mode and you also get the latest updates way before any carrier sends it out.
Interesting, did you buy the device over Amazon or some sort of related online service? Did they advertise it as international unlocked? I've seen a couple of guys on here that bought devices like that from Amazon or related services that advertised as such. At the very least if they did advertise as international unlocked then actually converting to international can't "void" it then, can it?
Seen guys from France get English, guys from Poland buying from Spain and actually getting French device, a guy from Argentina that got one or other US variant... very mixed up. Even I got some other variant, imported mine from the UK to South Africa but it's also a French HTC__203 device. EU... what can we say?
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But if i do that, i lose my warranty right? It's sad, i dont want my phone to be on that firmware and i want Extreme Power saving mode and my APN's are empty -.-
No, i've bought on a local store, i see that these phones are sold from many countries to diferent ones, someone from my Country got one from a Italian Store and he bought it from Amazon ES
All i want for now, is to change my original firmware to the international version or HTC-PTG HTC__506 (wich is my country) without losing my Warranty, is that possible?
Please someone help me with this, or i will have to go to the store to swap to another one
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Please someone help me with this, or i will have to go to the store to swap to another one
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All i want for now, is to change my original firmware to the international version or HTC-PTG HTC__506 (wich is my country) without losing my Warranty, is that possible?
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You post a query and expect it to be solved in minutes!We at xda have a life outside also.You should respect others time.Anyways if you unlock the bootloader you void your warranty at that very instant.There is only 1 possible way to regain your warranty is to s-off your device.Other than that there is no way.You can use firewater or sunshine($25) to s-off.I hope you have understood.
EDIT:S-off dosent void warranty!
Yeah i know sorry, but it's kinda frustrating this situation, it's such a crap FW...
So, it's possible for me to change the original FW without losing warranty right? If yes, can you please tell me what steps should i proceed to get the European FW(internacional?) or the one for my country.
Best regards.
didi_ghost said:
Yeah i know sorry, but it's kinda frustrating this situation, it's such a crap FW...
So, it's possible for me to change the original FW without losing warranty right? If yes, can you please tell me what steps should i proceed to get the European FW(internacional?) or the one for my country.
Best regards.
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Like he said as soon as you unlock you CAN and most likely did void the warranty, HTC gives a clear warning of that during the actual unlocking procedure. Anything else you do after that, flashing a custom recovery, rooting, flashing roms, deleting system apps(bloatware) etc can all really be considered "voiding" the warranty, as it's tampering with the device.
That is where having S-OFF comes in handy as you can not just easily undo all of that but even undo the tampered flags that came as a result of you messing around with the device. You can make it seem like you never even unlocked the bootloader in the first place. Though HTC itself WILL of course know that you did... That being said, It really shouldn't be a problem if you need warranty fix/exchange for hardware related issues that did NOT come about as a result of any software "modifications" / "hacking".
So get S-OFF!!! :victory:
Flashing the International version:
Head over to the Collection of Stock Backup's thread grab one of the 1.54.401.5 versions as we'll use the OTA update that you'll get afterwards as a test to make sure all is running good and that you can get OTA updates and install them to 1.54.401.10 . While you're in the thread also grab the stock recovery for 1.54.401.5 it's also in the first post in that thread. Put these files on your phone in the correct folder path. If you're using internal SD card it should be in /sdcard/TWRP/Backups/SERIAL_NUMBER/ <<<replace serial_number with the serial number for your device, you can find that on the box that the phone came in of course. For external sd card. /sdcard2/TWRP/Backups/SERIAL_NUMBER <<<Again same as already mentioned.
Make sure about your MID, it should be 0P6B10000 though it is my understanding that all European models have the same MID. You can check this by hooking up phone to pc and using fastboot(Method I'll show below if you don't know how). Once in fastboot type fastboot getvar mid . Next you need to change that CID to HTC__001 for international variant. You can do this by connecting your phone to your pc and opening a command prompt in the adb folder(Assuming of course you have adb/fastboot on your computer? ) you can then proceed to type these commands.
First make sure USB-Debugging is enabled on your device. Settings > About > Software Information > More > Tap 7 times on Build number. This will enable Developer options, go back to Settings and scroll down, just above "About" you'll see Developer Options, tap on that scroll down and make sure the box next to USB debugging is checked. Then go back to Settings scroll down to "Power" select it, scroll down to bottom and "un-check" the "Fast boot" box.
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adb devices - [B][I]this is to see if your phone gets picked up through adb, should show you your serial number.[/I][/B]
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices - [I][B]again just to make sure it's connected.[/B][/I]
fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
fastboot reboot-bootloader - [B][I]make sure the CID changed correctly to HTC__001[/I][/B]
fastboot flash recovery recovery_name.img - [B][I]recovery_name being the name of the stock recovery you downloaded. Make sure it's placed in the adb folder![/I][/B]
fastboot erase cache
fastboot boot name_of_custom_recovery.img - [I][B]make sure you BOOT the recovery for the same backup nandroid you chose. If you downloaded a TWRP backup then BOOT TWRP, if you downloaded Philz Touch nandroid then BOOT Philz Touch. Again, make sure this file is in adb folder UNZIPPED if it's zipped, same with the stock recovery, if you downloaded it zipped, unzip it and place the .img file in the adb folder. So let's assume you went with TWRP then it'll be:[/B][/I]
fastboot boot openrecovery-twrp-2.7.1.0-m8.img
Once it booted the custom recovery wipe the dalvik-cache, cache and data partitions. Then do a restore from the path to the nandroid backup. Reboot the phone and you're set, it'll take a while on first boot as it loads up all the things. Once it's booted you should also get a pop up for the new OTA 1.54.401.10 go ahead and accept it and see if installs properly for you, if it installed properly and updated your system then...
Congratulations you're now an International WWE user. :good:
You'll also have the extreme power saving mode you so desperately seek and desire.
Thank you very very much!! I'm gonna try to swap on the store for another one first , if i can't i'm gonna do this and give freedom to my phone! God bless you for that huge text helping me out
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didi_ghost said:
Thank you very very much!! I'm gonna try to swap on the store for another one first , if i can't i'm gonna do this and give freedom to my phone! God bless you for that huge text helping me out
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235 check this.Note yyou hace to be s-off to change mid.Also I would suggest you to change cid to supercid ie 11111111
Guys, i'm trying to S-Off my phone with firewater using temp-root method and i'm always getting this:
{
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So , there's nothing i can do?
Please someone?
didi_ghost said:
Please someone?
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If you can't get firewater to work go and look for sunshine soff or you could try asking the team in irc chat
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Earlier today, I finally made the jump to HTC after owning multiple versions of Samsungs over time. The OS version (AT&T) is confirmed as the latest 5.1. Being brand new to HTC, I know I have some learning to do in terms of rooting. Honestly I just want to have root to run a few pieces of software, but I'm not looking right now at messing with custom ROM flashes or anything like that. Mainly interested in using TiBu to do some de-bloat, and I also have an interface app needed for my car stereo that needs the root access. FYI, I used to jailbreak iPhones ages ago, plus I've had tons of luck keeping all my Samsung phones and tablets done. I consider myself somewhat techie, but need to do adequate reading on the HTC methodology so something doesn't get all gummed up in the works.
Soooo, can someone point me to a good step-by-step starting point thread? Also want to be sure 5.1 didn't close up the holes people have been using over time. Many thanks in advance!
~Vol
A follow-up question too. I'd like to make a full 100% safety backup for desktop PC archiving purposes before attempting to touch anything. What is best method to do that on HTC? Thx.
Vol4Ever said:
A follow-up question too. I'd like to make a full 100% safety backup for desktop PC archiving purposes before attempting to touch anything. What is best method to do that on HTC? Thx.
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1) go to HTCdev.com and request an unlock token. It will walk you through the complete process of unlocking bootloader. *note* this process wipes internal storage
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
2) read the first three posts of the twrp thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/orig-development/recovery-twrp-touch-recovery-t3066720
3) click the downloads tab of the twrp thread and download "twrp-2.8.7.1_CPTB-B1-hima.img" to your fastboot folder (during step 1 you got fastboot working on your computer).
4) reboot boot into download mode and flash twrp from a command line ("fastboot flash recovery twrp-2.8.7.1_CPTB-B1-hima.img")
5) reboot to bootloader and use the volume down button to highlight boot to recovery and press the power button to select that.
6) at the first twrp screen screen select to leave system read only
7) select backup
8) place a check next to system image. You can deselect everything else...or leave boot, data and system selected, but you really don't need them. System image is what you need to get back to stock. Data might be useful if you ever flash a custom rom and want to go back to stick, but I don't know about that. Swipe to start backup. You now have an unmodified system image that you can restore later.
9) back out to main menu, select reboot and reboot back to recovery
10) this time on the opening screen swipe the bottom to make the system r/w
11) go to reboot and select system, swipe to reboot. You're going to get a notice saying you're not rooted and ask if you want to install supersu. Swipe to do this.
12) once the phone boots up, go to the app drawer and you'll see an icon for supersu. Open that and follow the instructions on screen to finish the process. This will probably include downloading a file and rebooting into twrp again. But like I said, just follow the instructions in the app.
You're now rooted.
Hope this helps. Enjoy.
Outstanding level of detail, my friend. Will attack this tomorrow.
And congrats on being in Nashville. My wife and I have looked seriously in that area in the past. Not sure when, but I see us living in the Franklin / Brentwood area at some point in the future. Thanks again for the checklist. I'll report back when I've had a chance to complete.
Vol4Ever said:
Outstanding level of detail, my friend. Will attack this tomorrow.
And congrats on being in Nashville. My wife and I have looked seriously in that area in the past. Not sure when, but I see us living in the Franklin / Brentwood area at some point in the future. Thanks again for the checklist. I'll report back when I've had a chance to complete.
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We're in Franklin. Post if you run into any issues.
One more thing, since you mentioned the backup. The HTCdev unlock process will wipe your entire phone. So be sure you backup anything you don't want to lose first, like photos.
iElvis said:
One more thing, since you mentioned the backup. The HTCdev unlock process will wipe your entire phone. So be sure you backup anything you don't want to lose first, like photos.
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Yep. I figured he would read that in the dev unlock process, but it was nice of you to point that out specifically.
I was trying to keep it simple and promote reading. But I added this warning to step one.
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Post if you run into any issues.
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Thanks for the tips on backups, but it is still a brand new phone. Haven't even started moving apps, music, pics, etc yet. And my first issue, as luck would have it, has appeared on your step #1 (ugh). Following through the links, I wound up here:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/unlock-instructions
It talks about doing the volume down & power sequence and states the phone should go into bootloader mode. Mine actually goes into download mode, but there is a menu item there to reboot to bootloader. When I do that, it pulls up a different output screen / menu:
*** Software status: Official ***
*** LOCKED ***
*** S-ON ***
Reboot
Reboot to bootloader
Reboot to download mode
Reboot to recovery mode
Power down
The problem is that the instructions are telling me to get to "fastboot" mode before proceeding to the next steps. That particular setting doesn't show up in either the bootloader or download mode menus. Is it something simple I'm missing??
Vol4Ever said:
Thanks for the tips on backups, but it is still a brand new phone. Haven't even started moving apps, music, pics, etc yet. And my first issue, as luck would have it, has appeared on your step #1 (ugh). Following through the links, I wound up here:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/unlock-instructions
It talks about doing the volume down & power sequence and states the phone should go into bootloader mode. Mine actually goes into download mode, but there is a menu item there to reboot to bootloader. When I do that, it pulls up a different output screen / menu:
*** Software status: Official ***
*** LOCKED ***
*** S-ON ***
Reboot
Reboot to bootloader
Reboot to download mode
Reboot to recovery mode
Power down
The problem is that the instructions are telling me to get to "fastboot" mode before proceeding to the next steps. That particular setting doesn't show up in either the bootloader or download mode menus. Is it something simple I'm missing??
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The instructions aren't updated yet. The "fastboot mode" only exists on older HTC phones. The M9's "fastboot mode" is actually the "download mode".
Flippy498 said:
The M9's "fastboot mode" is actually the "download mode".
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That got it. Bootloader unlocked & confirmed through screen menus!! Now to proceed with the rest of the backup / root procedure . . .
Thanks again.
Vol4Ever said:
That got it. Bootloader unlocked & confirmed through screen menus!! Now to proceed with the rest of the backup / root procedure . . .
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Once you're rooted, it's really worth getting s-off through Sunshine. It's $25, but it will allow you to flash the most current firmware on your phone instead of waiting for your carrier to push it out, in addition to some other goodies like being able to change your splash image. This phone had some serious issues at launch that have since been fixed with the most recent 5.1 updates, so you don't want to be stuck on old firmware.
Well jollywhite's instructions went right down the middle and helped accomplish every line item I requested. THANK YOU!!!
So Elvis, what is this sunshine thing? I've already started cleaning up bloat with TiBu, but don't have any additional flashing on the radar. Root is good so I can now start moving all my stuff over.
Vol4Ever said:
Well jollywhite's instructions went right down the middle and helped accomplish every line item I requested. THANK YOU!!!
So Elvis, what is this sunshine thing? I've already started cleaning up bloat with TiBu, but don't have any additional flashing on the radar. Root is good so I can now start moving all my stuff over.
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Congratulations on successfully unlocking & rooting your phone. It's a good feeling to learn how to do it and then get it done, and why XDA is such a great place.
Sunshine (currently on version 3.1) is a paid software solution that will get you S-OFF on your M9. It's developed by XDA members for aficionados - the cost is to cover their costs for materials and work done. There are some limitations and caveats, so be sure to read the thread carefully (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487).
[edit]Re-reading your post, it seems that you may not need or want S-OFF. If you are satisfied with a custom recovery and root, S-OFF doesn't add anything you need[/edit]
Vol4Ever said:
Well jollywhite's instructions went right down the middle and helped accomplish every line item I requested. THANK YOU!!!
So Elvis, what is this sunshine thing? I've already started cleaning up bloat with TiBu, but don't have any additional flashing on the radar. Root is good so I can now start moving all my stuff over.
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Glad everything worked out. Good job.
At some point you're probably going to want to s-off. Waiting for AT&T to approve updates can be excruciating at times. For example, AT&T didn't release lollipop for the M8 until freaking April, where international firmware for lollipop was available in December or early January.
That said, I would probably wait because there's really not a need right now. At&t just pushed new firmware so you can run any rom you like at the moment. I'm pretty sure I read you were on 5.1 right? That means you should be on the new 2.6 firmware.
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That said, I would probably wait because there's really not a need right now. At&t just pushed new firmware so you can run any rom you like at the moment. I'm pretty sure I read you were on 5.1 right? That means you should be on the new 2.6 firmware.
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Yeah, that was really surprising, AT&T actually pushed it out before Europe, which I've never seen happen before. But no guarantee that will continue.
Vol4Ever, they're correct that you can wait on s-off for now, until you're more comfortable being rooted and modding your phone. There's little real benefit in doing it at the moment.
Flippy498 said:
The instructions aren't updated yet. The "fastboot mode" only exists on older HTC phones. The M9's "fastboot mode" is actually the "download mode".
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Thanks for this info it's were I was stuck
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Hello,
I have a second hand AT&T htc one m8, and it is running kit kat right now. It obviously had superSU and it was probably rooted as well. When I talked to htc, they made me follow some steps and apparently my phone is "s-off". I went into SuperSU after some research online to unroot the phone, and ive succeeded, but the phone is still "s-off" and I think I need it to be s-on for me to get the marshmallow update. Ive looked everywhere online and I still can't find a solution. I don't have a PC and I want to do it locally on the phone. Does anybody know how to get everything back to the way it was out of the box, so that I can just simply update the phones operating system? This is the first time for me to use android and I'm not very used to the operating system.
It would be great if somebody can help me.
No need for s-off. Just find appropriate RUU or update zip for your model . Flash via bootlader(update.zip) if dnt want to use computer or run RUU via pc
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sonnu0100 said:
No need for s-off. Just find appropriate RUU or update zip for your model . Flash via bootlader(update.zip) if dnt want to use computer or run RUU via pc
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Will you be able to direct me through the process please? I'm new to android.
Without a PC is kind of hard to do things. It is not imposibble but you need someone to upload things for you.
Before someone can direct you further .. first thing that is important, are you in US and on AT&T network ?
If yes, maybe it is bit easier to help
If no, it's best to totally convert it to non-AT&T
I am not on at&t right now. I don't really want to mess with my phone too much too. I have a Mac is it possible with that without getting windows on it?
At least you have a Mac ... that's good enough but you have to get things done different way as the RUU supplied by HTC is in exe format.
Let's get to know your device first. Put the device to bootloader/fastboot mode and connect to PC. You need to post here fastboot getvar all result (without serial & imei no.)
For Mac (I don't have a Mac) .. I think the command in terminal is
./fastboot getvar all
hihaalex said:
I went into SuperSU after some research online to unroot the phone, and ive succeeded, but the phone is still "s-off" and I think I need it to be s-on for me to get the marshmallow update.
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You're guessing here, and guessing incorrectly. Good rule of thumb working with these devices: don't guess, or it will end poorly for you (possibly even a permanent brick). Only go by specific information and instructions from experienced users. As mentioned, s-off has nothing to do with getting OTA. There are several factors which may be causing you not to get the update:
1) The AT&T version (if its still configured as one, more on that later) will only OTA update when connected to the US AT&T network.
2) Even if you are connected to AT&T's network, you can only OTA update, if you have the proper stock never rooted ROM. Unrooting by removing SuperSU, or unroot option in SuperSU or similar, is not enough (you haven't been specific how you "unrooted"). You also need the proper stock recovery.
As ckpv5 touched upon, how to proceed depends on several factors, such as what carrier you are actually using. As it may be beneficial to "convert" to a non-AT&T version, which is not that hard to do since you are already s-off.
Also, a lot depends on the current status of the device, so do as directed by ckpv5 above, so we can get more info about the device. With s-off some modifications may already have been done to the device (like changing the carrier version). But we need to know the current status, before we can proceed.
As my one m8 is already got s-off, is there a way I can just get a zip file of the marshmallow update and go to the recovery, from phone storage part of the phone?
How can I find out the current status of the phone?
hihaalex said:
As my one m8 is already got s-off, is there a way I can just get a zip file of the marshmallow update and go to the recovery, from phone storage part of the phone?
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Nope, it doesn't work that way. If you are talking about OTA when you say "update" (and you really should be as specific as possible when posting), there is no way that would work. For several reasons: Marshmallow update would require you being on Lollipop (OTAs need to be installed sequentially, and you typically cannot skip an OTA). Also, you need be on the stock (never rooted) ROM and stock recovery. Also, the OTA checks the M8 version: carrier ID (CID) and model ID (MID), so you need to use the proper files for your MID/CID. Which is why were are asking for info about the current device status (which you have not provided).
If by "update" you mean RUU, it can be done (RUU does not need to be installed sequentially, you can go right from KitKat to Marshmallow). However, again the proper RUU depends on the current status (CID/MID) of the phone, plus what country you are in (which you didn't answer). Also, you can't run RUU from the phone's internal storage; although you can from an SD card.
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hihaalex said:
How can I find out the current status of the phone?
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ckpv5 already described how, in Post #6 above.
Although, you will need an adb/fastboot environment setup on your computer. And I'm not at all familiar with doing that on a Mac.