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What is known safe to freeze
as listed in titanium backup, I've been able to freeze the following bloat without any issue:
Allshare cast
Allshare play
Allshare service
AT&T * (everything starting with "AT&T" can be frozen)
ChatON
DeviceHelp
Flipboard
Kies* (everything starting with "Kies" can be frozen)
media hub
music hub
my AT&T
news daemon
s suggest
s voice
samsung backup provider
samsung browser syncadapter
samsung calendar syncadapter
samsung cloud data relay
samsung contact syncadapter
samsung snote syncadapter
samsung syncadapters
SNS
stock daemon
swype (keyboard still works fine without swype support)
sysscope
tethering provision
vpn client
weather daemon
weather widget
weather widget main
yahoo finance
yahoo news
YP Mobile
There are many other things that can be frozen - this (so far) is just a list of what I'm currently freezing
AT&T users: The "mobile hotspot" icon that shows up in your app drawer doesn't have it's own app that you can freeze. It appears to be something in the settings.apk (and you probably don't want to freeze that.)
FM Radio
There isn't one. Based on my research, the hardware either doesn't exist or isn't physically connected. No luck with spiritFM either. This matches what international users have found with the n7105 (international LTE note2)

The "mobile hotspot" icon that shows up in your app drawer doesn't have it's own app that you can freeze. It appears to be something in the settings.apk (and you probably don't want to freeze that.)
I'm trying to figure out how to deodex a JB firmware... once I have that, I'll be uploading doing a few minor mods (and uploading them, of course.)

Another reason to go international if you don't have lte in your area.
Jesus AT$T, got bloat?
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added note about FM radio, updated post title to reflect that I'm just dumping random "faq" type information in it.

Great info! However personally, I'd wait with freezing apps since android operating systems have a wakelock specifically designated for deleted/frozen apps. Why or what for? No clue, but it's there. I'll wait until I can actually remove them completely. Either way this phone's battery and performance is awesome out of the box, even with bloatware :thumbup:
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AlonB. said:
Great info! However personally, I'd wait with freezing apps since android operating systems have a wakelock specifically designated for deleted/frozen apps. Why or what for? No clue, but it's there. I'll wait until I can actually remove them completely.
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No.. your off base there. deleted_wakelock has nothing whatsoever to do with a frozen app. A wakelock is actually a kernel structure. When an app cleans up after itself, the time it had in wakelock is added to the deleted_wakelocks counter.

Xstop said:
Another reason to go international if you don't have lte in your area.
Jesus AT$T, got bloat?
SGH-I717 Galaxy Note | AOSP/CM/AOKP <3 via Tapatalk II
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takes 5 min to disable it all forever.. not gonna get up in arms this time

This is still a pretty good excel source for the novice although it is for stock.
Collected way back for SGS2

frewys said:
This is still a pretty good excel source for the novice although it is for stock.
Collected way back for SGS2
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Thanks for this! I was looking to ask the question in q&a. Would this be pretty close to SGN2?
sent using gNote II.

Thanks for the great info! I'll definitely be doing this soon after I get mine. I'm curious, how much of a difference in memory consumption/speed have you noticed after disabling all this bloat?

skochw said:
Thanks for the great info! I'll definitely be doing this soon after I get mine. I'm curious, how much of a difference in memory consumption/speed have you noticed after disabling all this bloat?
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Well... I really can't answer that, as I didn't seriously use the phone until after I disabled that stuff.

garyd9 said:
Well... I really can't answer that, as I didn't seriously use the phone until after I disabled that stuff.
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Ah. well maybe you could run some benchmarks or something, and we could compare with stock scores?

skochw said:
Ah. well maybe you could run some benchmarks or something, and we could compare with stock scores?
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1. It wouldn't show up in benchmarks, as benchmarks tend to grab exclusive use of the device (meaning the other stuff wouldn't matter.) As well, I don't believe in benchmarks - they are too easily compensated for.
2. By freezing unused services, they'll never start which means the phone doesn't hold them in memory (freeing memory), doesn't use processor cycles to load/reload/execute them which will result in a lower battery usage (depending on the specific service) and allow the phone to "feel" faster in some cases.
3. Finally, freezing stuff that you don't use cleans up the app drawer. Why would anyone want an icon (even if they don't use it) for AT&T's navigation software when google gives us the same thing for free? (Freezing it also prevents someone else from using it if you loan them your phone.)
Of course, the idea of this thread isn't to discuss the merits of freezing bloat (or the merits of urinating when the need arises.) The idea is to let people know what is "safe" to freeze (and give other device information.)

As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?

ohRonaldo said:
As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
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(I hope you take this with the humor intended...)
No, there is simply no possible way for you to ask that without sounding like a newbie. However, it's okay... we were all newbies at one time.
"app drawer" - in iOS, every app you install leaves an icon on your homescreen (or one of the homescreens.) That isn't the case with android. In android, YOU decide what your homescreen looks like - you can have app icons, widgets, or just leave them blank. There is usually an icon on the homescreen that lets you access your "app drawer" which contains all the phone apps. On the note2 with default configuration, thats the checkerboard looking icon on the lower right of the homescreen.
freezing - using an application such as "titanium backup", you can "freeze" an app. This is a way to basically completely disable and hide an application without physically uninstalling it. The only effective difference between a frozen app and one that's actually uninstalled is that the frozen app still can be "defrosted" (which restores it to normal.) freezing apps requires that your phone is rooted (which is a topic for another thread...)

ohRonaldo said:
As a guy coming out of the Apple iOS world, I have to say that the only Android device I've held is my wife's Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, and I'm not familiar with the terms "app drawer" or "freezing" apps. Can I ask for a little clarification without sounding like the total noob I am, please?
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The " app drawer" is the location on android that has your application launch icons (and widges). If you delete the app icon on the desktop you can gain access to the installed app here. You can grab a copy from the tray to deposit on other desktop pages.
The term "freezing" is a method to make installed apps dormant and thus not "call home" or use CPU cycles / memory resources that drain power or use data. These are usually done in preparation in determining what apps to un-install. Un-installing bundled applications may leave you no way to re-install them later, short of re-flashing to stock ROM.
Most folks will attempt to freeze apps to remove "bloatware". Later the storage can be reclaimed by un-installing the apps. By freezing, you can avoid "burning a bridge" you may find you need later.

Dynamite answers, thanks. I'm familiar with that app drawer, just didn't know its name, and the requirement of root for a freezing app will be juuust a bit down the road until I can understand the new OS environment.
PS I am a software engineer from way back, part of the generation responsible for "Are you sure?" and "General Error. Continue?" prompts, so.... I deserve every bit of jazz anyone wants to heap on me.

ohRonaldo said:
PS I am a software engineer from way back, part of the generation responsible for "Are you sure?" and "General Error. Continue?" prompts, so.... I deserve every bit of jazz anyone wants to heap on me.
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Hmmm... The response, "Hit Any Key to continue..." comes to mind. I'm still looking for the Any Key and have never found it. :laugh:

the builtin application manager can disable some programs... i'm wondering if this is the same as freezing

ShadowVlican said:
the builtin application manager can disable some programs... i'm wondering if this is the same as freezing
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yes

Home Screen / KFTVLauncher WAY too busy-looking now?!

after the latest update it feels like there is way too much stuff
nice that they added Music.
FreeTime, at first I got foolishly excited thinking: "even though this is for kids, it says 'you can add Your Apps' !!!" but then quickly realized the obvious: amazon's apps, not your own apps. duh.
but now it feels like there's just way too much junk sitting there.
it would be nice to be able to choose the order of the categories, and which categories to display (or not-display)
I don't think this will happen, because then the user won't constantly scroll past all those things to buy!
I've been happy with stock everything for a while - all I ever use is Plex and whatever free videos I've loaded. So basically I only ever use: Home, Watchlist, and Settings.
didn't want to bother with rooting or with llama / launcher.
hmmmm... actually... with rooting, there might be a way to change some of the KFTVLauncher display settings... if I get annoyed enough maybe I'll look at that.

Maybe someone can make an xposed mod for editing the selection menus so we can add,hide/remove,or reposition selections.
Of course the settings page will need to be made unable to hide or delete.
I want to at least hide all but home and settings so I can quickly access my apps by going down only once and without using as much memory since the other options would not take up extra RAM space.
Random question for anyone:Can I set up a SWAP file on my 32GB USB Mass Storage connected via Stickmount to gain serious performance?

retroben said:
Maybe someone can make an xposed mod for editing the selection menus so we can add,hide/remove,or reposition selections.
Of course the settings page will need to be made unable to hide or delete.
I want to at least hide all but home and settings so I can quickly access my apps by going down only once and without using as much memory since the other options would not take up extra RAM space.
Random question for anyone:Can I set up a SWAP file on my 32GB USB Mass Storage connected via Stickmount to gain serious performance?
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I was planning on expanding my Xposed module to allow you hide/show the various sidebar items. I already figured out how to modify it but with the recent update some or all of my code is broken and I haven't had a chance yet to see which part of it is.
I'm not sure what kind of boost you think you are going to get from swap. For one, USB storage is slower than molasses and for two, that's a great way to kill said usb storage device.

rbox said:
I'm not sure what kind of boost you think you are going to get from swap. For one, USB storage is slower than molasses and for two, that's a great way to kill said usb storage device.
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QFT
also, thank you rbox for all your earlier work with xposed...

QFT
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Quite,fast,though?

I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.

rbox said:
I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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Thanks for your hard work on this. I have 12 menu items on the home launcher, 6 of which I never use, and would love to cut that in half.

rbox said:
I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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rbox, do you have the code on github or anywhere? I would love to have a go at it also.

mdpauley said:
rbox, do you have the code on github or anywhere? I would love to have a go at it also.
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No. Right now it's a big giant mess of lots of random test code.

rbox is killin it with this xposed work. He gave me some insight into what he's doing and it blows any of the tinkering I've done (messing with DBs that get rewritten immediately..) away.

servo386 said:
rbox is killin it with this xposed work. He gave me some insight into what he's doing and it blows any of the tinkering I've done (messing with DBs that get rewritten immediately..) away.
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I just updated my module thread for v1.1 which contains the menu items selection feature.

Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ Battery Saving Tips

A phone even with killer looks and amazing features still needs a descent battery backup to support it all. In past we've seen that a few tricks here and there always tend to increase battery life. Usually that includes disabling a few apps or features. This thread is for specifically targeting such tips & tricks and sharing it all so that S6 Edge+ can live upto its expectations..

1. To start with, lets get to the list of bloatwares that can be safely disabled.
If any of you own the AT&T version, here's a list you can disable:-
AT&T Apps:-
AT&T FamilyMap
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Live
AT&T Locker
AT&T Mail
AT&T Mobile Locate
AT&T Mobile Transfer
AT&T Navigator
AT&T Ready2Go
AT&T Smart Wi-Fi
Drive Mode
Caller Name ID
Mobile TV
Plenti
Smart Limits
Yp (Yellow Pages)
Other Apps:-
S Voice
Amazon (I prefer the playstore version for frequent updates)
Amazon Kindle
Device Help
Live Weather (Yahoo)
Lookout
Theme Store
Visual Voicemail
2. Refrain from using any free application that has embedded advertisements. They tend to run threads in background to load adds and thus degrade the app performance and used data (so naturally consume more power too). Either buy add-free version or find an alternate app for same purpose and without adds.
3. Disable notifications from social media/news apps like Facebook, Twitter, Tapatalk, etc. Although, the phone wouldn't be that smart if all the notifications are disabled, however, keep them at bare minimum. Not everybody would be interested in notifications from all the apps, so spend some time analyzing through all the installed apps and their settings to turn off the notifications for the apps you do not need to get notifications for. There are several apps that keep sending notifications and running a thread in background which again checks internet to load the notification content. An example would be games like Candy Crush or Clash Of Clans.
4. Turn off "Send Usage Statistics" or "Help Improve the app performance", "Participate in improvement" etc settings from the app which sends data from your device from time to time which acts as a survey to improve the performance of the app. Although this is a necessary option for a developer, however, if you do not care about your granular contribution towards further development of the app, try deselecting such options while setting up new apps.
5. Refrain from using external Memory Management Apps and RAM Cleaners. They tend to run heavy background services to detect memory usage and kill applications. Trust me, you would be better without them.
6. Try using black wallpaper and lock screen. Also, always select Dark Mode if any app has theme section. This makes the pixels produce less brightness and considerably save more battery.
7. Keep GPS Location off when not using any navigational/location based apps. When the GPS is ON, there are some apps that tend to acquire a GPS Lock even though they can work without it. Keeping GPS Off will not allow such apps to request for GPS Lock. GPS Locking is a battery draining process.
8. You can use certain tools like Greenify, WiFi Automatic, etc. to automatically manage application states or phone wireless to save some additional battery. Use these only if you are lazy like me. Otherwise you can always manually turn on/off wifi/bluetooth/nfc etc etc. Also, there are tools (like Juice Defender) which can enable/disable data connective at a frequent interval which results in really good power conservation without loosing push notification.
With applying most of these settings, I'm getting 6-7 hrs of screen on time very easily even when I've downloaded 1+ GB data and 40 minutes of video chat (hangout). Not to mention the usual gaming and application usage.:cyclops:
I hope that helps. I'll keep adding if I get any (without root).

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apurva.giri said:
A phone even with killer looks and amazing features still needs a descent battery backup to support it all. In past we've seen that a few tricks here and there always tend to increase battery life. Usually that includes disabling a few apps or features. This thread is for specifically targeting such tips & tricks and sharing it all so that S6 Edge+ can live upto its expectations..
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Tweak brightness.

I believe rooting a phone can improve its battery life. This method works for almost all devices.

st8chic said:
I believe rooting a phone can improve its battery life. This method works for almost all devices.
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I'm sure you mean rooting and installing all sorts of battery saving items/tweaking.
Marely rooting wouldn't bring any difference to battery life for sure!

Just tweak brightness, make sure you getting good signal and use WiFi when available, don't leave Abby of the radio on unless not using it and that shall be good I guess
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How can you disable those apps. I'm on T Mobile but we have our share of T Mobile bloat. Would love to disable a bunch of them without customizing my files lol

edo101 said:
How can you disable those apps. I'm on T Mobile but we have our share of T Mobile bloat. Would love to disable a bunch of them without customizing my files lol
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Just long press the app in the app drawer and drag it up to where it says disable.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Just long press the app in the app drawer and drag it up to where it says disable.
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What is an app drawer lol?

edo101 said:
What is an app drawer lol?
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It's the icon on the lower right corner of the screen that says "Apps". Once you get in there find the app that you want to disable. Long press the icon of the app and drag it to the upper left corner of the screen where it says "Disable". Then when the "Disable" word lights up red just release the app into there.
Check out my screenshot for an example.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
It's the icon on the lower right corner of the screen that says "Apps". Once you get in there find the app that you want to disable. Long press the icon of the app and drag it to the upper left corner of the screen where it says "Disable". Then when the "Disable" word lights up red just release the app into there.
Check out my screenshot for an example.
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Got it!, and Thanked. I'm actually on a Note Edge on 5.0, just moved back down to 4.4.4, it doesn't show up as disable.

hiteshonline said:
Tweak brightness.
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Tweak brightness is its pmajor problem.......

Thanks for the listing. I love the new design than S6 edge, hopefully it will last longer as well...

Please tell me a solution if any one knows:
I open facebook and after some time i close this application by click on list tasks soft key and close it. Immediately when I go into setting > application manager > running apps I still see a facebook process running. Technically i guess this should be gone i guess and hence any idea how to clean these which i guess can improve battery life.
Update: If I have notifications turned on in facebook then yes it can still run some process even after I close it in Apps Tab but I see the same with Samsung Music Player i.e after I close it I still see a thread in "Running" Apps.

vravik said:
Please tell me a solution if any one knows:
I open facebook and after some time i close this application by click on list tasks soft key and close it. Immediately when I go into setting > application manager > running apps I still see a facebook process running. Technically i guess this should be gone i guess and hence any idea how to clean these which i guess can improve battery life.
Update: If I have notifications turned on in facebook then yes it can still run some process even after I close it in Apps Tab but I see the same with Samsung Music Player i.e after I close it I still see a thread in "Running" Apps.
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These kind of apps do tend to run a background process to check for updates. Closing the app doesn't necessarily mean that the processes will close. And I'm not even sure even if you turn off all the notification services of an app, all the related processes will close for sure, it depends. Also, if you are using apps like facebook etc, do not worry much about the battery life if you have turned off the background data usage and notification services. It will have very minimal impact, almost negligible!

on Tmobile version, Its not possible to disable Tmobile apps or smasung's own bloat. What a sigh!

taranfx said:
on Tmobile version, Its not possible to disable Tmobile apps or smasung's own bloat. What a sigh!
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Package disabler pro app disables everything you want!
No root needed

Dvanzutphenkann said:
Package disabler pro app disables everything you want!
No root needed
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Yes it does. Came across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 does a good job on mine so far. It disabled around 30 app and i feel it did make a difference. I use the default XML attached

ShyamSasi said:
Yes it does. Came across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 does a good job on mine so far. It disabled around 30 app and i feel it did make a difference. I use the default XML attached
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Out of all those 30 apps you disabled did you lose any functionality?

Package Disabler Pro for the Note 7.

Has anyone tried to see what works with some bloatware disabled & what doesn't work? Personally I would like the iris scanner and samsung pay to be enabled and everything else disabled.

Yeah, it's working for me quite well

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Yeah, it's working for me quite well
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Glad to hear it,arguably the best feature available for any Samsung device,short of root/ROMs.
Hopefully it'll still work once Android 7.0 rolls out.

KOLIOSIS said:
Glad to hear it,arguably the best feature available for any Samsung device,short of root/ROMs.
Hopefully it'll still work once Android 7.0 rolls out.
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It will. They use Knox which is a product of Samsung.
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I'm rather confused by this thread. Is the poster asking what will 'break' if you disabled all the bloatware? Or asking something else entirely? Cause you can disable everything that comes on any phone and it'll always work just fine.
And I have no idea what Android 7.0 would have to do with bloatware, or what KNOX would have to do with bloatware...

HikariNoKitsune said:
I'm rather confused by this thread. Is the poster asking what will 'break' if you disabled all the bloatware? Or asking something else entirely? Cause you can disable everything that comes on any phone and it'll always work just fine.
And I have no idea what Android 7.0 would have to do with bloatware, or what KNOX would have to do with bloatware...
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I can't speak for the O.P.,but,my guess is, as with me, just making sure that it works before purchasing the Note 7,especially for those of us with the Snapdragon powered versions that may have no other way to disable bloat.
JMHO, but, the Q&A regarding functionality of PDP, whatever they may be, are of merit & might as well have a thread addressing the subject.
Most realize you can disable the bloat, but,not everyone, including yours truly, understand exactly how it works & why only on Samsung devices.
The Knox tie-in makes sense to me, even without a full understanding of how it works.

KOLIOSIS said:
I can't speak for the O.P.,but,my guess is, as with me, just making sure that it works before purchasing the Note 7,especially for those of us with the Snapdragon powered versions that may have no other way to disable bloat.
JMHO, but, the Q&A regarding functionality of PDP, whatever they may be, are of merit & might as well have a thread addressing the subject.
Most realize you can disable the bloat, but,not everyone, including yours truly, understand exactly how it works & why only on Samsung devices.
The Knox tie-in makes sense to me, even without a full understanding of how it works.
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KNOX doesn't make much sense to me, because that's just a security platform. It just makes sure you protected from being 'hacked' per say. As in like, it adds an extra layer of security over your phone so someone can't just pick it up and plug it into a computer to gain access to all of your stuff. Though thats only the very loosest of analogies.
But I have to ask what you exactly mean by the "not everyone understands exactly how it works and why only on Samsung devices". Do you mean as in why disabling works? or something else. Because you can disable the bloatware on any android phone so long as the carrier and manufacturer didn't lock the option out. Which most devices will let you do it now because of the whole 'you'll get sued for forcing users to use a specific thing without giving them a way out' (an example would be microsoft getting sued over the bundling of Internet Explorer and Microsoft Office with the earlier Windows OS's).
What I'm wondering is, based on the title of the thread after thinking about it some, does the OP mean an app that disables/uninstalls bloat? Because I'm sure there are plenty of apps out there that do it. But most I think require Root in order to do it properly and reliably. I use Sprint for my service, and its Sprint ID and such are a pain in the ass, and they can't just be 'disabled' easily even though there is the option to (every time you disable it, Sprint just re-installs it the next time you reboot the phone because it thinks it got uninstalled somehow). But to get it to disable properly on my Note 5, I had to install some random app that I think was called App Quarantine. It looked like a bio-hazard symbol for the icon. I haven't re-installed it since this last wipe I was forced to do, so I can't remember exactly lol. But it was the only one that would let me actually disable the Sprint ID stuff and not have it re-install all the time.

HikariNoKitsune said:
What I'm wondering is, based on the title of the thread after thinking about it some, does the OP mean an app that disables/uninstalls bloat? Because I'm sure there are plenty of apps out there that do it.
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Yes it's an app in the Google Play Store that has the ability to disable literally anything on Samsung devices,WITHOUT ROOT, so, care must be taken to not get carried away & I recommend only disabling, not deleting, in the event of not being able to take an update otherwise.
Not everything can be disabled natively, so, that explains the appeal of the app.
If you used it, you'd see the tie-in with Knox........

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Yes it's an app in the Google Play Store that has the ability to disable literally anything on Samsung devices,WITHOUT ROOT, so, care must be taken to not get carried away & I recommend only disabling, not deleting, in the event of not being able to take an update otherwise.
Not everything can be disabled natively, so, that explains the appeal of the app.
If you used it, you'd see the tie-in with Knox........
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Then that makes alot more sense. I originally just thought they were basically asking if there was an app to disable everything instead of having to do it manually. I've always just manually disabled everything cause its not that hard to do. Just find the troublesome things and hit that disable button lol. But if this can do it all in one quick swoop, then I'm all in =O I'll definitely be looking into it later today when my phone finally arrives...
Sprint screwed up my pre-order, and is sending me the wrong device, so I have to take it into a store to get it exchanged because they refused to cancel my pre-order or change the order at all even though I legitimately ordered the dang thing 2 minutes past midnight on the 3rd. So ontop of that, they also didn't ship the phone when they said they would, AND the put restrictions on my package. I normally have to physically go to a UPS location to pick up my packages cause the dumb driver will never deliver to my house... always states that they can't find my house even though its the ONLY house down the ONLY long driveway... heck you can SEE my house above the trees! But nope, the guy wont deliver. But because of the restrictions, UPS wont let me flag the package as 'hold for pickup' like usual, so I gotta stand at the end of my drive way for hours upon hours just to catch the UPS driver. Then I gotta drive all the way into town to HOPEFULLY exchange the phone for the Black Onyx variant that I was supposed to get...
Anyway, sorry for the ramble o-o; didn't realize it was that long XD

HikariNoKitsune said:
Then that makes alot more sense. I originally just thought they were basically asking if there was an app to disable everything instead of having to do it manually. I've always just manually disabled everything cause its not that hard to do. Just find the troublesome things and hit that disable button lol. But if this can do it all in one quick swoop, then I'm all in =O I'll definitely be looking into it later today when my phone finally arrives...
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It's a nice tool to have, a powerful one.
Just a friendly piece of advice :
Read up on it before using, check the FAQs on the developers site if need be & go conservative at 1st if you're not familiar with what is safe to disable.
The app gives color-coded guidelines per each app on what is known to be safe to disable. You can go above and beyond that, but, mainly, just disable, do not delete anything & leave the stock keyboard alone.
You might be able to disable the stock launcher, provided you have another one installed, but, I'd leave it alone until you're certain one way or the other........

KOLIOSIS said:
It's a nice tool to have, a powerful one.
Just a friendly piece of advice :
Read up on it before using, check the FAQs on the developers site if need be & go conservative at 1st if you're not familiar with what is safe to disable.
The app gives color-coded guidelines per each app on what is known to be safe to disable. You can go above and beyond that, but, mainly, just disable, do not delete anything & leave the stock keyboard alone.
You might be able to disable the stock launcher, provided you have another one installed, but, I'd leave it alone until you're certain one way or the other........
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Lol I'd only disable the things I already know I need to disable. Like all the Sprint stuff. I leave the Samsung stuff alone cause I actually use alot of Samsung's things. But as for Sprint's stuff? All of that goes bye bye lol. Now that is assuming it doesn't somehow show things that you normally can't see from the applications manager. In which case then I wouldn't bother, cause I don't see much of a point lol.

there are a few package disabler for Samsung out there, which one the best?

amenlo9 said:
there are a few package disabler for Samsung out there, which one the best?
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Go with either one,the Pro+ has a hardware lockdown feature,otherwise,there two are identical:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en

I'm guessing Samsung still has a partnership w/Cheetah Mobile,which is one of the main reasons I like having this app,Package Disabler Pro,on-board to ward off the data mining/crapware/etc...
However,I'm not seeing anything in the apps,system or otherwise,that's jumping out & identifying itself as CheetahMobile/CleanMaster/etc.......
I'm guessing it's some/all of the apps identified w/the "Smart" moniker,but,I'm not 100% certain on that.
Anyone have an idea on which,if any,of the apps are actual CheetahMobile bloatware?
Thanks In Advance!

Using EZ Disabler here. Works well, but you gotta be careful using "disable bloat" part as it will turn off many useful things. I just went through and picked what i wanted. Very Easy to use though

Thanks for recommending Package Disabler Pro. I was worried Since not rooted. In past had always used TB . This worked Great!!
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Why would you guys use an app for disabling stuff.
Since we're on xda, enable USB debugging and use pm (package manager) cmd from adb shell.
For instance: adb shell pm hide 'package'
There are other interesting options: list, install, uninstall.
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millicent said:
Why would you guys use an app for disabling stuff.
Since we're on xda, enable USB debugging and use pm (package manager) cmd from adb shell.
For instance: adb shell pm hide 'package'
There are other interesting options: list, install, uninstall.
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I see your point, but i would also say there is a ease to the app though. Whatever works best for people. Im just glad there are options.

Tutorial: Workaround for Missing Notification LED by Always on Edge

Disclaimer: I am not Responsible for Burns on your gorgeous Amoled display or the Nuclear war triggered or your anything using by my guide.
As we have the Notification Led ditched by Sammy, we have a few alternatives. However, I have somewhat mimicked the missing features through Always On Edge.
Play Store Link: (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe
I can understand that this has already been discussed, my purpose of this thread is to Guide you an effective configuration of the AOE app. Many people find the app difficult to configure as this is like a "One Page Website" containing almost all the options in the same place, therefore looking messy. Also, this app have several bugs yet I found this most reliable yet.
I don't claim any credit for the App.
Steps:
Please disable dear Samsung's Edge Light feature OFF.
Disable Window and Transition Animation off in Dev Settings if you don't like AOE flickering statusbar during notification reminder.
Install Always on Edge from the play store link above.
Go to AOE settings, Give the app necessary Permission.
Exclude the app from being battery optimized.
On How/When to Light section, select your preferences. In "When Notification Comes", select your apps to notify and set your preferred colour.
Turn Reminder on for 8 seconds in every 16 seconds.
On Edge Style, Select Stable (This helps reduce battery drain).
Check Adjust brightness, keep it at mid range or as you prefer.
On How to Close, select Double Tap to Close.
Now, on Enable Edge Lighting, keep it enabled, Select around Notch only. On the notch support settings, select Adjust manually and select the values 55,0,15,10, Right > 120 respectively.
This will make a smaller notification LED like light above the notch. We usually don't use that area so, it should be absolutely fine. With these settings, you get a working notification LED alternative.
I hope this helps a lot of us. These settings are my personal preference at this moment. I am also looking into Chainfire's Holey Light but that thing is a baby and drains battery plus does not notify when on battery and screen is off. So, I shall wait till other alternatives are available.
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Why wouldn't you add this to the thread that already exists about this app?

I can understand that this app has been already talked about but why I made this thread is so that more people can get the guide easily and it does not get lost in the conversation. If moderators think it's duplicate and wish, they may merge it with the other thread.

Hi.
If I want to set it for missed calls and messages, what I have to select? Thanks

This is a proper location for this guide. It's where most users come to look for something like this. Look at the title of this section: "Guides, News, & Discussions"...
Leave it here, where it belongs.
And many thanks to the OP.
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Hi.
If I want to set it for missed calls and messages, what I have to select? Thanks
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For missed calls select the Phone app.
For voice mail messages, select your visual voicemail app.
For SMS messages, select your Messages app.

This app doesnt work properly for me, it only shows notification around camera ring after i wake the screen, whats the point of it than?
Not to mention often there is like overlay over regular losckreen so i need to unlock twice, it comes over fingeprint area so i cant directly unlock phone from screen off.
Reinstalled it 3 times already just to see if im crazy or not and redid from scratch following 100% guide from youtube or net.
What im doing wrong here or it works like that for all?

@ivicask,
I can't tell you what you're doing wrong, but it's not supposed to work like that. On my phone it notifies me as soon as a new message notification arrives. Try experimenting with some of the options. And read all the notices that the developer put in the app.

ivicask said:
This app doesnt work properly for me, it only shows notification around camera ring after i wake the screen, whats the point of it than?
Not to mention often there is like overlay over regular losckreen so i need to unlock twice, it comes over fingeprint area so i cant directly unlock phone from screen off.
Reinstalled it 3 times already just to see if im crazy or not and redid from scratch following 100% guide from youtube or net.
What im doing wrong here or it works like that for all?
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Can you check if the "Screen is Off" is selected in the when a notification comes section. Also, did you disable Edge Lighting?

These are my settings and it works perfectly fine and the notification light stays on until I dismiss it. The red circled area is what needs to be changed to leave the notification light on until you dismiss it.
In the last screenshot, you scroll down through that list to select the apps you want a notification light for. Whenever you install a new app on your phone it gets automatically check off in that list. Just something to remember.
In addition whenever you make a change you have to hit save at the bottom.
This setup also works with Samsung stock AOD.

izephyr said:
Disclaimer: I am not Responsible for Burns on your gorgeous Amoled display or the Nuclear war triggered or your anything using by my guide.
As we have the Notification Led ditched by Sammy, we have a few alternatives. However, I have somewhat mimicked the missing features through Always On Edge.
Play Store Link: (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe
I can understand that this has already been discussed, my purpose of this thread is to Guide you an effective configuration of the AOE app. Many people find the app difficult to configure as this is like a "One Page Website" containing almost all the options in the same place, therefore looking messy. Also, this app have several bugs yet I found this most reliable yet.
I don't claim any credit for the App.
Steps:
Please disable dear Samsung's Edge Light feature OFF.
Disable Window and Transition Animation off in Dev Settings if you don't like AOE flickering statusbar during notification reminder.
Install Always on Edge from the play store link above.
Go to AOE settings, Give the app necessary Permission.
Exclude the app from being battery optimized.
On How/When to Light section, select your preferences. In "When Notification Comes", select your apps to notify and set your preferred colour.
Turn Reminder on for 8 seconds in every 16 seconds.
On Edge Style, Select Stable (This helps reduce battery drain).
Check Adjust brightness, keep it at mid range or as you prefer.
On How to Close, select Double Tap to Close.
Now, on Enable Edge Lighting, keep it enabled, Select around Notch only. On the notch support settings, select Adjust manually and select the values 55,0,15,10, Right > 120 respectively.
This will make a smaller notification LED like light above the notch. We usually don't use that area so, it should be absolutely fine. With these settings, you get a working notification LED alternative.
I hope this helps a lot of us. These settings are my personal preference at this moment. I am also looking into Chainfire's Holey Light but that thing is a baby and drains battery plus does not notify when on battery and screen is off. So, I shall wait till other alternatives are available.
There's a Thank Button for Every Post That Makes you Thankful to the Author.
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I wish people would stop recommending this app. I have had 0 success in using it and having it work as intended. I have tried your settings, and once again this does not work for me; When I get a notification, the screen lights up, shuts off, and there is no indication that a message has arrived. There are like 3 threads on this particular program that also offer suggestions on how to get the program to "work".
Yes, Edge lighting has been disabled. I even went a step further and rebooted the phone, then installed the app. Used your settings, as well as the other settings that have been suggested and I have the same outcome, I just don't get it. I am sure that atleast 100 of the reported downloads are form me trying to get this app to work LOL.
I appreciate your time to try to explain how you managed to get the app to work, but is not reliable imho, and I really wish it were
I just use the AOD, as much as I hate it, it's about the only reliable way to know that a notification has arrived.

b3y0ndd34th said:
I wish people would stop recommending this app. I have had 0 success in using it and having it work as intended.
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I understand your frustration. But this app works as intended for some of us, and fills our needs. Those of us who are satisfied will continue to recommend it....
Look around. There are currently 4 devs with competing apps in the S10 forum. I'd suggest you try a couple of them and let us know if you find something that works better.

izephyr said:
Can you check if the "Screen is Off" is selected in the when a notification comes section. Also, did you disable Edge Lighting?
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Yes and yes.
b3y0ndd34th said:
I wish people would stop recommending this app. I have had 0 success in using it and having it work as intended. I have tried your settings, and once again this does not work for me; When I get a notification, the screen lights up, shuts off, and there is no indication that a message has arrived. There are like 3 threads on this particular program that also offer suggestions on how to get the program to "work".
Yes, Edge lighting has been disabled. I even went a step further and rebooted the phone, then installed the app. Used your settings, as well as the other settings that have been suggested and I have the same outcome, I just don't get it. I am sure that atleast 100 of the reported downloads are form me trying to get this app to work LOL.
I appreciate your time to try to explain how you managed to get the app to work, but is not reliable imho, and I really wish it were
I just use the AOD, as much as I hate it, it's about the only reliable way to know that a notification has arrived.
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eXACTLY THAT!Have the same issue..

cam30era said:
I understand your frustration. But this app works as intended for some of us, and fills our needs. Those of us who are satisfied will continue to recommend it....
Look around. There are currently 4 devs with competing apps in the S10 forum. I'd suggest you try a couple of them and let us know if you find something that works better.
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What are the other apps? I would love to try anything that would give me a working notification indicator.
You and I have a vastly different expectation when it comes to "working as intended". If it did work as intended, all of us would be able to have this app function correctly.
I also find it very convoluted and bloated. When creating a UI for any app, you should use the "user is drunk method". Meaning even if a person were intoxicated, they should be able to use the app. But that is neither here nor there.
I appreciate what the developer has done, I just haven't been able to accomplish the task at hand.

b3y0ndd34th said:
What are the other apps?
I also find it very convoluted and bloated. When creating a UI for any app, you should use the "user is drunk method". Meaning even if a person were intoxicated, they should be able to use the app.
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You will find threads for the other apps in the S10 (not here in S10+) "Themes, apps, and Mods" section.
FWIW, I agree with your comments about the UI.

cam30era said:
You will find threads for the other apps in the S10 (not here in S10+) "Themes, apps, and Mods" section.
FWIW, I agree with your comments about the UI.
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Gotcha! Gonna go check there, thanks!

I have only a problem with this app.
When there is the notification I can't unlock the phone with fingerprint. I must wait the led/notch is off

ventolino said:
I have only a problem with this app.
When there is the notification I can't unlock the phone with fingerprint. I must wait the led/notch is off
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Yep...same here....in that case press the power button and then you can unlock the phone....
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izephyr said:
I can understand that this app has been already talked about but why I made this thread is so that more people can get the guide easily and it does not get lost in the conversation. If moderators think it's duplicate and wish, they may merge it with the other thread.
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I added a link to your thread on the original AOD thread. It's alway better to keep all the info in one place but I get what you were trying to do here. At least now they're li ked. ?
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ivicask said:
This app doesnt work properly for me, it only shows notification around camera ring after i wake the screen, whats the point of it than?
Not to mention often there is like overlay over regular losckreen so i need to unlock twice, it comes over fingeprint area so i cant directly unlock phone from screen off.
Reinstalled it 3 times already just to see if im crazy or not and redid from scratch following 100% guide from youtube or net.
What im doing wrong here or it works like that for all?
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ventolino said:
I have only a problem with this app.
When there is the notification I can't unlock the phone with fingerprint. I must wait the led/notch is off
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Xode said:
Yep...same here....in that case press the power button and then you can unlock the phone....
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I also have had the same problem. I normally used double tap to wake. It is however, present in this app.
Select double tap to close this app. And just use the fingerprint sensor to unlock the phone. It works. I have been using this.

About the Bloated UI of the app, I also agree with all of you. I also contacted the developer on this. He said he will look into this once the app become more stable.
Those, who could not get this app working, I'm sure there is some settings of your phone that are contradicting. For examplen if a notification wakes up the screen, this app will not notifiy. Moreover, yes, I have been using this app as my daily driver now. It does not disappoint me. I have used all the other apps available, Holey Light, Arc Lighting. None works as it should. They works as mentioned by the dev but those features are not the feature an LED-holic person is looking for. Holey Light cannot notify when not being charged. Arc notification ridiculously asks me to watch ad for every hour I use the app.
I am not being paid by the app developer to spread the words. I am spreading the word because it works for me and it SHOULD work for you also as we share the same device. There must be some conflicting app or settings. If anyone needs help settings this up, I would love to help.