I'm ready to leave Verizon for T-Mobile because the S4 I received from them had ME7 and I really want to be able to flash roms. The S4 is my current choice for the phone to get (coming from a Galaxy Nexus so hopefully better battery life) but I have a couple of questions about whether or not to wait.
Is T-Mobile going to get a 32gb version? If so or maybe so, any ideas when? I've never had a smartphone with an sd card, so I'm not familiar with the limitations that it brings.
Is the S4 going to get an updated SoC? I've read some rumors about it getting a Snapdragon 800 soon. Didn't know if there was going to be an update spec wise this fall/winter for the holiday season.
I have the T-Mobile version and they only sell the 16 GB version, what people have done is buy the AT&T version outright which is 32 GB and put a T-Mobile SIM card in it since they're both GSM networks. I remember hearing rumors a while ago that there was going to be an updated S4 which had LTE advanced and the S800 but IDK if we'll ever get here in the USA. The stock ROM now supports Apps2SD but AOSP ROMs don't, you could always use an app like Folder Mount to do the same thing.
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I'm ready to leave Verizon for T-Mobile because the S4 I received from them had ME7 and I really want to be able to flash roms. The S4 is my current choice for the phone to get (coming from a Galaxy Nexus so hopefully better battery life) but I have a couple of questions about whether or not to wait.
Is T-Mobile going to get a 32gb version? If so or maybe so, any ideas when? I've never had a smartphone with an sd card, so I'm not familiar with the limitations that it brings.
Is the S4 going to get an updated SoC? I've read some rumors about it getting a Snapdragon 800 soon. Didn't know if there was going to be an update spec wise this fall/winter for the holiday season.
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By leaving Verizon you stand to loose nothing but gain the world. .. first off as fast lte or close to vzw speeds..
No bootloader crap.. sd card limitations? Its quite the opposite your concerned about. ..
Sd card phones let u transfer encrypt and add up to 64 gigs on top of the 16 g internal.
There' is no downside to leaving vzw.
The tmobile s4 is a tip top device .
Easy to root ...free Wifi calling that only we have.
No worrys ...come ovr and enjoy tmobile.
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I have to agree, I don't miss Verizon one bit. Just a note: wifi calling/texting only works on the official T-Mobile ROM, the Google Edition and AOSP ROMs don't support and it and possibly never will. The only thing I do miss is sometimes I drop down to EDGE for a few minutes in certain areas but having 5-10 Mbps on HSPA(+) everywhere else (20+ Mbps on LTE), JUMP! and unlimited everything makes up for it.
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I have the T-Mobile version and they only sell the 16 GB version, what people have done is buy the AT&T version outright which is 32 GB and put a T-Mobile SIM card in it since they're both GSM networks. I remember hearing rumors a while ago that there was going to be an updated S4 which had LTE advanced and the S800 but IDK if we'll ever get here in the USA. The stock ROM now supports Apps2SD but AOSP ROMs don't, you could always use an app like Folder Mount to do the same thing.
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Which stock Rom supports apps2sd? I'm stock rooted and it's not compatible
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Which stock Rom supports apps2sd? I'm stock rooted and it's not compatible
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Actual T-Mobile ROMs? None.
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Actual T-Mobile ROMs? None.
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O Ok that's what I thought, the other guy was telling op that stock supports it.
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The newest update supports it but I don't think our phones got it. I wouldn't really know because I always run AOSP.
Thanks for the info! I'll definitely be checking out App2SD and possibly other VOIP alternatives to Wifi calling since I don't think I'll be on stock for very long. Sadly this thread seems to have died off and apparently this has been a long time coming with little hope : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313
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Edit: Oh and I thought the 32gb version from AT&T had a locked bootloader now.
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Is it possible to use the 32gb verizon nexus on other carriers, such as Rogers (this is what I'm on) or AT&T? If it does work on the other carriers, would it work with full 3g support?
I'd really like to get this phone, but the 16gb with no expandable memory is a killer for me since I have more that in just music :/ But I think I'd be alright with 32gb.
No. It is a cdma/lte device and only works on Verizon.
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No. You'd need to get the GSM/HSPA+ version, which is available in Canada from Bell or Virgin Mobile. However, you can also get the unlocked version (which will cost $700-800) and use it on any GSM carrier in the world.
Damn...guess I'll have to get something else then bah. It's like every time they make a nexus phone, they have to cripple it one way or another. Meh.
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Damn...guess I'll have to get something else then bah. It's like every time they make a nexus phone, they have to cripple it one way or another. Meh.
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Just buy one unlocked in Canada if/when the 32gb one comes out for GSM.. it's not crippled at all.
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If there were plans to bring a 32gb version to Canada, i wouldn't mind waiting....but as there has been no word, and my current phone is dying on me, I'd like to get something new soon :/
So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
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and that was from day 1? Obviously there has been debate about this on this forum and people much smarter than I have agued that it will never get LTE...
do you remember if there is something that has to be enabled? Or if say where I live they activate the LTE tower, boom it will work?
Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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I think these threads need to be shut down. There are a number of other threads exactly like this that holds the correct information. Thanks Doc
I agree with Doc, we'll probably be on better phones by the time we have decent LTE reception -- and I'm happy enough with the DC-HSPA+ modem.
IMHO, they will likely release a Galaxy S3 [4G] LTE as an interm between the S3 and the S4. WRT LTE, all I know is what I see on Wikipedia's snapdragon article. Which isn't very clear on details. Also numerous MSM8960 phones /w LTE exist but do we even know if it's on die, let along bothering to crack open an AT&T and T-Mobile GS3 for a little hardware compare?
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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Thanks I did so w/o issues
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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Samsung would only fail if they didn't include lte hardware in the new galaxy s4 especially because it's being released after tmobile starts rolling out lte which is February 2013
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Maybe I am the only one. LTE is not very efficient. I am happy with 3g+++.Tmo 3g super sized is a very good system. My company provided LTE hot spot sucks bandwidth like no other. Be careful what you ask for.
I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
This is how I see it:
Advantages to International Model:
No Bloatware
Tethering works out of the box (though it's easy to download Foxfi)
Timely updates
Has split screen already
Advantages to AT&T version
LTE
While LTE is nice, my HSPA+ speeds are plenty fast. I'm just not sure it's worth it to move to a branded device for faster internet. What do you guys think? I know the AT&T model will get the split screen eventually, but it will likely be months and every update after that will be on the International model long before the branded model sees it.
Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
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I'm in a unique position to trade my International Note II for a brand new AT&T Note II. I can't make up my mind, so I'd like to see what you guys think.
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Do you root and/or flash custom ROMs/kernels? It really depends on your use case. Personally, I am staying stock for a bit, but I'll eventually root; I am on AT&T.
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I don't really do custom ROMs, but I have been rooting lately just to block ads (hate them). So custom roms isn't really a factor.
Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.
Id root and run international firmware with lte
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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Agreed. Get an AT&T, root it, flash with the international, and get the best of both worlds.
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The International version won't run on att lte bands. I say you would be better off getting the att version and then running something like clean rom on it.
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Can anyone confirm if AT&T removed the display mode switcher (i.e. dynamic, standard, movie, etc.) from theirs? They did in the GSIII, though I have absolutely no idea why they don't just leave it in. It hurts nothing.
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No it was not removed.
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I know you said you don't do customs ROM, but doesn't make sense to so. AT&T Note II with a custom and you get ALL the benefits (and more).
I wasn't gonna root, but went ahead because I wanted the multi-window. Now I can use multi-window with any app I want, have no bloat, LTE and get better battery life. Extremely happy ROMed Note II.
I just switched from the International model to the ATT one. The LTE alone is worth it plus you can port ROM's.
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Thanks for the advice, guys. Made the swap today and rooted. Now I'm just on the hunt for the right ROM.
I thought I will just add this here.. Maybe people will stop making new threads about LTE on our GS3.
Now we need to see if its the same hardware as ours and maybe combine a this forum with it.
Here is the news
Thought there was a thread on the new phone already.
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Thought there was a thread on the new phone already.
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I must have missed it because I dont see it.
Why get the s3 when the s4 is available? Or am I missing something here?
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Why get the s3 when the s4 is available? Or am I missing something here?
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Money I guess. My friend bought the s3 today cause it was 30 dollars and the s4 was 200 on Sprint but he didn't want to pay that much.
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I think it's dumb overall but to each their own.
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I think it's dumb overall but to each their own.
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I agree. Glad we have choice and not stuck with just one . I love my sgs3. There are days I wish there was more I could do but for the most part it functions as it should and im not ready to fork out more money for a slightly updgraded version of this one. By slightly I mean "in my opinion" . Don't get all technical with me because I'm aware of the spec differences. If my phone isn't dead by next year around the holidays or even after that is consider seeing what's available. Sgs6 or even whatever the future holds.
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Im kinda waiting for the Note 3 to comes out. That would have more features than that GS4. I think that should be a nice upgrade from my GS3. But then again T-Mobile did it again like they did with the Vibrant, I am not sure if this version of the S3 will have a lower memory or it will be the same as this just lte added.
The vibrant was a good phone and tmobile sacrificed that 16GB memory for that FFC when the Galaxy S 4G came out
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Im kinda waiting for the Note 3 to comes out. That would have more features than that GS4. I think that should be a nice upgrade from my GS3. But then again T-Mobile did it again like they did with the Vibrant, I am not sure if this version of the S3 will have a lower memory or it will be the same as this just lte added.
The vibrant was a good phone and tmobile sacrificed that 16GB memory for that FFC when the Galaxy S 4G came out
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Don't forget T-Mobile also abandoned the Vibrant when they released the 'better' version. We got stuck with Froyo officially. The very same could happen once more with us. There is a possibility that MD5 could be their last update for the non-LTE GS3. I seriously hope they don't forget the millions that bought the non-LTE GS3 as they did with the Vibrant.
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Don't forget T-Mobile also abandoned the Vibrant when they released the 'better' version. We got stuck with Froyo officially. The very same could happen once more with us. There is a possibility that MD5 could be their last update for the non-LTE GS3. I seriously hope they don't forget the millions that bought the non-LTE GS3 as they did with the Vibrant.
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That's not gonna be the case, and if it is the case we will get a version of it with custom roms. We'll get 4.2 around August-September (just a guess)
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Don't forget T-Mobile also abandoned the Vibrant when they released the 'better' version. We got stuck with Froyo officially. The very same could happen once more with us. There is a possibility that MD5 could be their last update for the non-LTE GS3. I seriously hope they don't forget the millions that bought the non-LTE GS3 as they did with the Vibrant.
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Yeah but bottom line is even if they decide to ditch this version of the updates I think it would be a lot easier to port it from the GS3 with lte! Even thought I dont think that Samsung will make a 100% different hardware of the one with LTE. Look at it this way. Even though AT&T. SPRINT, VERIZON have LTE GS3's and we can port roms from them. Or maybe tmobile will release the update to both devices
I doubt you have to worry bout getting keft out of the update loop. I'm guessing they will be virtually identical except for modems and drivers.
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Pointless to go on endless speculation on what Tmobile and Samsung are going to do just wait and see. I think by the time we have 4.2, 4.3 might be out then people will be whining about getting that one.
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Not gonna get this I'm happy with my sgs3. Probably one of the best phones I've had. If they do have a note 3 in the works I'll hold out for that.
So curious if anyonenhere has actually bought the Lte version.
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I doubt you have to worry bout getting keft out of the update loop. I'm guessing they will be virtually identical except for modems and drivers.
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Corrent I believe this new LTE GS3 will be the same exact phone... We should be good in porting roms from it just like Verizon, Sprint. And since is the same phone I wonder if we can flash radios from it too. Just like on the Hercules days when we could flash radios even from the Blaze 4G
I don't get why they would do this, T-Mobile or Samsung. Just release an S III version with hardware capabilities for LTE??? Just money hungry? Why do people get so worried about it? With HSPA+ I get 25 mb down, it's no 50 but on my phone I won't recognize the difference in loading web pages, or anything... My WiFi is 38mb down on my phone I tested both WiFi and Cell Data, no difference in loading a web page, maybe .5 seconds or 1 second, but is that what people are worried about? Seems so minuscule to me. Yet, there are about 20 threads on LTE and this phone, and an official thread with 13 pages.... and some of that cleaned out I'm sure, because people get so angry over the subject. Just boggles my mind, am I missing something here?
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I don't get why they would do this, T-Mobile or Samsung. Just release an S III version with hardware capabilities for LTE??? Just money hungry? Why do people get so worried about it? With HSPA+ I get 25 mb down, it's no 50 but on my phone I won't recognize the difference in loading web pages, or anything... My WiFi is 38mb down on my phone I tested both WiFi and Cell Data, no difference in loading a web page, maybe .5 seconds or 1 second, but is that what people are worried about? Seems so minuscule to me. Yet, there are about 20 threads on LTE and this phone, and an official thread with 13 pages.... and some of that cleaned out I'm sure, because people get so angry over the subject. Just boggles my mind, am I missing something here?
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You're not missing anything. I completely share your feelings in this. When I owned the nexus 4 there were threads all about this also when a Google update disabled late on the nexus 4. People were all up in arms about it. Then after they found a way around it complained about battery life. We have become an instant society. If people perceive that late will get them something faster then they'll think they "need " it. I'm on WiFi 99% of the time. And when I am out of range my 4g is just as fast.
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This thread was not about actually LTE. I have seen so many threads about LTE on this model of the gs3. I been telling em about this new model that tmobile has said it will come when they had that iphone conference. And I know what u mean there were a lot of lte threads. In my opinion i am not going to jump ship because of the lte. I can careless with it now that I have tested it with a att gs3 with a friend and I was getting better speeds than him. Maybe people just need to move on and next time u buy a phone they will be lte enable.. But again I don't know if tmobile pay less for these gs3 without lte in it. Its all about money. Just like some carriers prefer you pay another $500 for a phone that will have a minor update. Like for instance the vibrant and the galaxy s 4G. They said that the vibrant was not a 4G phone. They both had the same speeds in my experience that vibrant ran HSPA+ just like tmobiles so call 4G its HSPA+ so no difference there. Although for me the vibrant was a lot better. One thing though I wish is that I ne of these days tmobile will say that they will start saling none carrier branded phones. And there won't be a difference between the ones in the us and the ones international.
i like the idea
I have come to notice tmobile isnt updating the firmware...I belive we are two updates behind. My buddys att s4 just recived its THIRD update. It included new camera firware and many enhancements. So has verizon and sprint....anyone know what tmobile issue is? I called both butbof course there is no info...
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Couldn't agree more. This is starting to piss me off. I said in another thread that it seems T-Mobile has been extremely concerned about building it's customer base, but is screwing over those customers after they've signed up. To not have received the app to SD update yet is BS.
Maybe they're waiting to do a big update to directly 4.3 or they are just slacking off... '.'
I agree...I just dont understand why things are so secretive around tmobile.. and a 4.3 update is months away...we are just waiting on bug fixes...
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Yeah it been 3 weeks mate since the app2sd firmware update. Im getting annoyed. But the phone still is pretty sweet I cant complain. In my opinion I think T-Mobile might be waiting on the 4.3 why send out multiple updates when you can kill several issue and add many enhancements with just one update? Idk either way im getting tired of constantly checking for THE update every day
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If you guys don't mind losing wifi calling, then just go to the 9505 thread and flash that firmware. I don't use wifi calling so I don't mind. However, if you rely heavily on it, then I can see the issue
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If you guys don't mind losing wifi calling, then just go to the 9505 thread and flash that firmware. I don't use wifi calling so I don't mind. However, if you rely heavily on it, then I can see the issue
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I am currently over there partly for that reason, but I agree with all the previous posts - TMo is dragging their feet and dropping the ball. Canada got the latest firmware update last week - would really like to see it here.
what's included with the new update we're missing out on?
Apps to sd card, I believe HDR video recording, and general speed and stability enhancements.
Hey the only reason us low life's over at att are getting so many updates, they are trying to block our bootloader fix..haha
I would take a tmo device in a sec, if I had the chance.
I find carrier updates are mixed bag. I remember the last T-Mobile update on my old Galaxy Note 2 blocked the unlocking through the service menu, but also added LTE & HD voice calling.
I would prefer a big update than a biweekly update and bugged.
Chances are its a big update (340+ megs) and still bugged, and took 3 weeks longer than everyone else.
yeah the updates usually block exploits like on the note 2 there was a trick to carrier unlock the phone with the stock firmware than tmobile released a update that blocked it ATT is worse though :laugh:
Maybe T-Mobile variant's Firmare isn't as buggy as other carrier's
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I would prefer a big update than a biweekly update and bugged.
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Agreed. And I feel that T-Mobile may want to push out 4.3 before everyone else so they might be focusing on that. Never really know. Plus look at all the other carriers, they're getting locked bootloaders, unrootable kernels etc. So we just gotta wait.
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No offense to anyone, but I feel the "I'd rather wait for a big update because the other carriers are pushing out locked bootloaders" argument is moot. If T-Mobile is going to lock the bootloader it's going to happen no matter the update size or importance. If they pushed one out now and locked it we'd only have more time to crack it.
I also think it will be one big update straight to 4.3 . Just hope that we dont loose the awesome features we already have.
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I have a hard time believing we see 4.3 in the next few months. My wifes note 2 doesnt even have 4.2 yet.
I really don't think so. 4.3 is coming to the nexus first and then Google edition phones. And then a few months later they will push it out to the carriers. T-Mobile isn't updating the s4 because they're focusing on their new plans and features like jump. Which sucks for us. But whatever.
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