[Q] Replacement keyboard take over S-Pen? - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

I use Swype in my Galaxy S4 Active (comes for free) and I have a customized dictionary with my own words. I like it so much I bought the app for my Note 8.0 (on sale for $0.99).
However, I found out that Swype TOOK OVER the S-Pen feature and host of other stuff, such as:
- NO button to switch to other keyboard, including S-Pen
- DISABLE automatic switch to S-Pen handwriting when the pen is detached
- DISABLE Google text-to-speech and replaced it with Swype own voice recognition.
Do you guys see the same thing, even with other replacement keyboard such as Swiftkey?

UPDATE: I downloaded Swiftkey (FAOTD from Amazon) and it does the same thing - the S-Pen handwriting pop-up is DISABLED. I.e. I can no longer do handwriting recognition.
Unless someone can chime in, I think I can safely concludes that MOST of the popular keyboard replacement app DISABLE a lot of S-Pen and Voice functionality on the Note 8.0.
Kinda suck because the Samsung Keyboard, with swipe capability, is not as robust as Swiftkey or Swype.

I am on the same boat... except I am on AOSP rom...
Wish there was a Swiftkey + S-Pen keyboard. I want the handwriting recognition.
EDIT: Actually I found this! no need for the default Samsung Keyboard now!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.stylusmobile.v3_2_store

Swype has it's own inbuilt handwriting recognition
it is be the pen button, 3rd from left in bottom row
current keyboard can be changed during writing via notification icon, although it's not very convenient

p107r0 said:
Swype has it's own inbuilt handwriting recognition
it is be the pen button, 3rd from left in bottom row
current keyboard can be changed during writing via notification icon, although it's not very convenient
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Swype also replace Google Voice recognition button with their own, which sucks because I prefer Google's.

lanwarrior said:
UPDATE: I downloaded Swiftkey (FAOTD from Amazon) and it does the same thing - the S-Pen handwriting pop-up is DISABLED. I.e. I can no longer do handwriting recognition.
Unless someone can chime in, I think I can safely concludes that MOST of the popular keyboard replacement app DISABLE a lot of S-Pen and Voice functionality on the Note 8.0.
Kinda suck because the Samsung Keyboard, with swipe capability, is not as robust as Swiftkey or Swype.
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I'm obviously a bit slow on this. I have the paid Swiftkey Tablet keyboard set as default but don't really understand the issue. Can someone please tell me how to test this stuff out? If I have the keyboard open and pull out the pen the keyboard closes and SNote pops out. Also, my voice recognition prompted from the keyboard appears to be Google. What am I not doing that you guys are to test?

CCallahan said:
I'm obviously a bit slow on this. I have the paid Swiftkey Tablet keyboard set as default but don't really understand the issue. Can someone please tell me how to test this stuff out? If I have the keyboard open and pull out the pen the keyboard closes and SNote pops out. Also, my voice recognition prompted from the keyboard appears to be Google. What am I not doing that you guys are to test?
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I am not talking about S-Note, but the S-Pen input function. Once you selected Swiftkey, the ONLY way to have the S-Pen input shows up is to do this:
1). Swipe down on the notificaiton bar and select the Input method (you'll see a small keyboard icon)
2). Select Samsung Keyboard
3). Select S-Pen input
For Google Voice recognition, I only see Swype's own, called Dragon, not Google Voice recognition.
PS: This is not the Google Voice app, which is used for phone and SMS functions.

If you are rooted... look up S Pen Board Switcher... I am using that app on my Note 8.0 AOSP rom.
What it does is, when you remove your S Pen it will switch to which ever keyboard when the S Pen is out... and switch back to the which ever keyboard you want when the Pen is in.
So in my case... I use Swiftkey Tablet and Stylus (Beta). So when I pull out my S Pen, the keyboard automatically goes to Stylus (Beta) (which gives me handwriting recognition like Samsung's Keyboard, but much better). And when my S Pen is in the slot, it switches back to Swiftkey Tablet keyboard for my fingers to type on.

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Multi Feature Keyboards

I've been trying out 3rd party keyboards from the market on the N7 and, besides some of them being a little behind (buggy with JB), most of them come up short in one or more of these key areas...
1. Trace (aka swipe) input
2. Has directional keys to move the cursor around
3. Uses Google Voice Type for voice input (IE text appears-as-you-speak, not some built-in pre-ICS style wait-until-you're-finished thing)
This is basically the HTC trace input keyboard that I'm describing. There are a few that do 1, fewer still that add 2 and none that I know of (besides stock) that do 3. I was using Swiftkey originally (0), then on to TouchPal for awhile (1). Ultra Keyboard is currently the best (1, 2) and it appears to use the Google voice recognition but does not show input on the fly. On the plus side it's very configurable and seems to be bug free (so far) with JB.
rwb2073 said:
I've been trying out 3rd party keyboards from the market on the N7 and, besides some of them being a little behind (buggy with JB), most of them come up short in one or more of these key areas...
1. Trace (aka swipe) input
2. Has directional keys to move the cursor around
3. Uses Google Voice Type for voice input (IE text appears-as-you-speak, not some built-in pre-ICS style wait-until-you're-finished thing)
This is basically the HTC trace input keyboard that I'm describing. There are a few that do 1, fewer still that add 2 and none that I know of (besides stock) that do 3. I was using Swiftkey originally (0), then on to TouchPal for awhile (1). Ultra Keyboard is currently the best (1, 2) and it appears to use the Google voice recognition but does not show input on the fly. On the plus side it's very configurable and seems to be bug free (so far) with JB.
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I might be wrong for the tablet version since I am using the phone version of Swiftkey on my tablet and phone(only have my phone on hand at work atm), but if you press the "123" button then the "{&=" button it will bring up direction keys.
(Posted in error and Tapatalk won't let me delete it.)
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lostchopstik said:
I might be wrong for the tablet version since I am using the phone version of Swiftkey on my tablet and phone(only have my phone on hand at work atm), but if you press the "123" button then the "{&=" button it will bring up direction keys.
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This seems to work on Swiftkey 3 Tablet as well, so I stand corrected. Sorry. I guess what I should have said is directional keys that are always visible on the standard keyboard.
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rwb2073 said:
This seems to work on Swiftkey 3 Tablet as well, so I stand corrected. Sorry. I guess what I should have said is directional keys that are always visible on the standard keyboard.
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I believe thumb keyboard has directional keys always showing if you use the small nexus 7 layout
Also it has jellybean voice dictation included.
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Just to follow up here. Thanks for all the suggestions. I tried a few others and have settled on Ultra Keyboard. Besides the live dicitation, it does everything. Very configurable, and prompt responses from the dev to questions. Go Keyboard also does everything besides live dicitation, unfortunately it's showing (right now) as incompatible on the market.
I use the stock keyboard when i need to type normally. But my standard keyboard is the ics themed Swype beta by djdarknight. Super easy and lightning fast to use with a stylus. Give it a try if you're still looking for a trace type input. The voice typing feature is broken I think but you can make the arrows show up by holding 123.
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changing input method on the fly

Is there anyway to change inputs methods on the fly so to speak? in my galaxy and galaxy s2 a long press would being up a menu and u would be able 2 change the input method by that but i have noticed that on the gs3 it doesnt give you that option. am i just missing something in the settings? the main reason i ask is b/c i manly use swype but sometimes with longer messages ill use the better keyboard and its kind of a hassle 2 have 2 go into settings and change it back and forth. thank you
I'm on stock S3 and also mainly using swype. I've noticed that while the swype keyboard is open, you can change the input method by pulling down on the notification bar. It's not as convenient as simply holding a button but since you're already texting and the keyboard is open, it's only an extra step to access on the fly.
sewhuy said:
I'm on stock S3 and also mainly using swype. I've noticed that while the swype keyboard is open, you can change the input method by pulling down on the notification bar. It's not as convenient as simply holding a button but since you're already texting and the keyboard is open, it's only an extra step to access on the fly.
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thank you for that info, sewhuy! Adding that it indeed is there in the notification area no matter what your default keyboard is. I'm now doing this to change between SwiftKey and LastPass.....it's things like this that i hope they really focus on and improve in key lime pie .....long press in the text box indeed would be the best solution.
This Rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
has the mod that allows you to change input methods on the fly...
The rom is awesome, please check it out!

Samsung Keyboard

Hi,
the samsung keyboard is great, it has great prediction and response and speed.
however, the only thing that makes me switch to another keyboard, is that it does not automatically select the predicted word by pressing the space bar. you have to tap on the corrected predicted word to inset, otherwise it will insert exactly what you typed (even if misspelled)
so my question is, can i somehow enable auto selecting the predicted word by pressing space bar?
thanks
Prob not...personally I don't like Samsung keyboard...I use ultra keyboard instead...tons of customizations
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it is missing the xt9 option
its weird because every other keyboard has it, and also its there in all samsung keyboards in other phones (s2, s3...)

[Q] Auto space Using Samsung Keyboard?

I love the hand writing recognition with the s-pen but can't work out if there is an option for auto spacing after each word.
Anyone know how to do it if possible?
Safe to assume you can't do it?
I believe if you write smaller to where you can write multiple words with clear spaces in between them, it will recognize the spaces. Turning down the recognition time/delay in settings may help too, so it clears the screen for the next word, quicker. I don't have the phone yet so this is just based on the few times that I played around with it. Hope that helps.
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Cheers I'll give recognition display setting a go.
It works when you write small but you still have to chuck a space in when the text box fills up
Try this
I found a better solution.
Don't use the Text Recognition mode native to the S-Note App.
Instead, use the Text Mode, ie the Icon with the Underscored T, just on the left of the eraser.
Then use the Handwrting mode in the included Samsung Galaxy Note 2 keyboard. It is much smarter as it keeps the recognized words on the "Writing" area of the keyboard, so you can place a space simply by leaving a space between the words as you write. Left dash to erase works too. Other gestures also work.
You get into the Handwriting mode on the Samsung Keyboard but long pressing the key between Sym and Spacebar.
Have fun and enjoy !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39956903#post39956903

[Q] Hacker's keyboard instead of Google's

Nexus 7 2013 & 4.4.4
Have installed Hacker's keyboard & prefer it as it is more like a real keyboard with a numeric top row & arrow keys & escape key. Cannot change the default keyboard even if the settings claim that it did; even disabled the Google keyboard & it still won't be done.
With the Google keyboard, even changed the advanced setting to allow different input method & selected Hacker keyboard BUT the Google keyboard remain stuck.
Interesting thing is that I have the System Panel installed as the task manager; the SP showed/named the Google keyboard as an ASUS keyboard! Gather it is the same but does the name change mean that the ASUS keyboard is hard coded somewhere?
Read popup keys can't be done on the tablet but I just want to use the Hacker's keyboard if it can be done on the Nexus 7. Am using the Hacker's keyboard on 3 other tablets.......
I use Hacker's Keyboard on my Nexus 7 with no problems. Make sure that it's selected as your default input method, and tap-and-hold in a text input area so the Input Method box pops up, then select Hacker's Keyboard.
Telyx said:
I use Hacker's Keyboard on my Nexus 7 with no problems. Make sure that it's selected as your default input method, and tap-and-hold in a text input area so the Input Method box pops up, then select Hacker's Keyboard.
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THANKS! I've only used the Hacker's keyboard in landscape mode on the Tab 2 & the A700 & Nook HD+ have a larger screen so that the numeric keys showed up in portrait mode. Your reply of using a keypress worked with doing it on the keyboard as it popped up the numerics & when in the numerics a long keypress popped up what one would get when doing a shift+numeric key as in the "&".
Guess I didn't try hard enough & should have tried both portrait & landscape mode for keyboard visualization. I am at that age that is quite cluttered & maybe solidified so ideas have a hard time to sink in.

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