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[MOGA Lag] Nexus 7/Moga Discussion Temp Fix

[UPDATE 3/26/13]
Using the official Pivot app causes input lag when WiFi is on. MOGA is working with Google for a fix but this will work temporarily. Just disable wifi during gameplay with your MOGA controller
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For those N7 owners with a MOGA controller, this thread should contain discussions for compatibility, profile creation, support, and fixes.
As a new owner, I've found 2 possible solutions for getting this paired on the N7:
Standard Moga Pivot App
MOGA Universal Driver
I am on 4.2.1 Paranoid Android beta9 (currently) and Trinity Kernel. I've been doing lots of testing with Sonic games because I've played Sonic games for over 20 years. I'm finding lots of variables and perhaps this thread can shed some light on the issues.
Scenario 1:
When I launch the Moga Pivot app, setup the controller, and use it to launch games, the games are flagged and typically "know" you are playing with a Moga. This tends to map buttons accordingly and also display additional button mapping screens (Modern Combat 4).
In this scenario, Sonic is very laggy and button presses CAN be 1-2 seconds delayed or not registered at all. This also slows the "d-pad" response causing Sonic to pretty much to be unplayable.
Scenario 2:
When I download the MOGA Universal Driver app, you have to manually pair the MOGA yourself through the bluetooth settings and select the device within the Moga Driver app. I've set it up as a System service that requires root.
In this scenario, Games play perfect speed wise. I had absolutely no problems with Sonic lagging. MC4 also plays great with the exception that the lower-right analog stick didn't work. I'm assuming this requires a profile setup.
The Moga Pivot App pairs nicely with my Galaxy Nexus and Sonic CD LITE with no problems or delays. The Galaxy Nexus is running Xenon 4.2.1. I've tried various kernels on the N7 with similar results.
So how do you prefer to use your MOGA?

Thanks for starting this thread. My MOGA arrives tomorrow.
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What do you have to do to get the pivot app to detect modern combat 4? I've got both installed and the controller paired/synced, but the only modern combat 4 I can find in the pivot app is a link to playstore to buy it.

mwalt2 said:
What do you have to do to get the pivot app to detect modern combat 4? I've got both installed and the controller paired/synced, but the only modern combat 4 I can find in the pivot app is a link to playstore to buy it.
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Same here
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you should read the card the promotion code comes on for MC4... It gives you a link to gameloft. Type it in on chrome and you will get a place to put in the code. Then it downloads that way.
I've had issues playing MC4 with the MOGA, I just got it today and on playing... it's impossible to aim. For some reason, whenever I turn to look left or something, it continues moving in that direction. You just flick the stick to the right or left and you do a 180 or something... I got slaughtered... K/D 1/4... -_-

Element515 said:
you should read the card the promotion code comes on for MC4... It gives you a link to gameloft. Type it in on chrome and you will get a place to put in the code. Then it downloads that way.
I've had issues playing MC4 with the MOGA, I just got it today and on playing... it's impossible to aim. For some reason, whenever I turn to look left or something, it continues moving in that direction. You just flick the stick to the right or left and you do a 180 or something... I got slaughtered... K/D 1/4... -_-
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Yea I got the game already but it doesn't show in the pivot app which would make it fully functional with the controller, because I tried to play it without going through the pivot app and its pretty unplayable like how u stated it plays
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Thought I'd clarify this real quick...
The way the Pivot app sends input to the game and the way the Universal Driver sends it are completely different...
Pivot sends it to Android with a proprietary library that 'Moga optimized apps' are looking for...
The Universal Driver makes your Android device think that the Moga is a USB Gamepad... Android 3.1+ natively supports USB gamepads and many apps like GTAIII/Vice City, Riptide GP, and Shadowgun support generic gamepads. Using Pivot wouldn't allow you to use your Moga with those games, but using the Driver will Why MC4 has partial support for that mode, I have no idea.

Does the Moga actually clip to a Nexus 7?
If not, I wonder if there is some sort of hack to extend the clip or attach it another way.
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warlock257 said:
Does the Moga actually clip to a Nexus 7?
If not, I wonder if there is some sort of hack to extend the clip or attach it another way.
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Lol no it doesn't.
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ridearoundsolo said:
Yea I got the game already but it doesn't show in the pivot app which would make it fully functional with the controller, because I tried to play it without going through the pivot app and its pretty unplayable like how u stated it plays
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I think they will have to update the pivot app to scan for the gameloft-installed version of MC4. It seems like an oversight that they forgot to add support. Maybe player911 will chime in, but I'd guess he bought MC4 from the play store.
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Does the Moga actually clip to a Nexus 7?
If not, I wonder if there is some sort of hack to extend the clip or attach it another way.
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It doesn't seem like there would be an easy way. The weight might also be different when trying to hold the nexus 7 in the clip. I think powera makes a larger version, though I just read that in one of the thread about the free deal and haven't looked for it.

MC4 shows in my Pivot app. Try uninstalling the Pivot app and reinstalling it AFTER MC4 is installed. Or a possible restart. I previously installed Sonic CD and MC4 before the pivot app.
That LAG you were talking about with MC4 is the SAME exact lag I'm seeing in Sonic CD. I use Sonic CD as a reference because it is a platformer and much easier to notice the lag. This is exactly what this thread is about. Trying to figure out how to fix the lag.
Currently I'm using JUST the MOGA Universal Driver app. I actually like it more because it comes with a Widget Toggle to turn the service on/off. It plays fine for Sonic CD and GSNES... but doesn't work 100% with MC4 (right analog stick doesn't work).
I'm thinking it could be the way BT is polling. Perhaps the BT send/receive speed is reduced or something. Please include your Rom version (stock 4.1.2, 4.2.1, or custom).
The MOGA works great on my Galaxy Nexus and looks mighty fine too. It is just my N7 that is having issues.

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MC4 shows in my Pivot app. Try uninstalling the Pivot app and reinstalling it AFTER MC4 is installed. Or a possible restart. I previously installed Sonic CD and MC4 before the pivot app.
That LAG you were talking about with MC4 is the SAME exact lag I'm seeing in Sonic CD. I use Sonic CD as a reference because it is a platformer and much easier to notice the lag. This is exactly what this thread is about. Trying to figure out how to fix the lag.
Currently I'm using JUST the MOGA Universal Driver app. I actually like it more because it comes with a Widget Toggle to turn the service on/off. It plays fine for Sonic CD and GSNES... but doesn't work 100% with MC4 (right analog stick doesn't work).
I'm thinking it could be the way BT is polling. Perhaps the BT send/receive speed is reduced or something. Please include your Rom version (stock 4.1.2, 4.2.1, or custom).
The MOGA works great on my Galaxy Nexus and looks mighty fine too. It is just my N7 that is having issues.
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Bluetooth is very wonky in 4.2.1 and it is most likely why you receive lag.

If MC4 doesnt show up in your list your can start the Pivot app and drop to your home screen then start MC4 and its works fine.

r00t4rd3d said:
If MC4 doesnt show up in your list your can start the Pivot app and drop to your home screen then start MC4 and its works fine.
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True but if you launch from the Moga app, the game launches knowing you have a moga. So there is a few additional features you won't have if you launch normally. One such feature is the gamepad control overview page, where it shows a moga controller and all of the assignments.
And as far as 4.2.1 bluetooth being wonky, I knew this going in, which is why I'm confused as to why my Galaxy Nexus plays it fine... unless it still uses the old bluetooth drivers still. If everyone is having a problem with lag, ok, I'm ok with working toward a solution. If it is just me, I'd like to know so I can fix it.
I ask everyone with an N7 and a Moga controller to test out Sonic CD. It is very easy to notice right off the bat if your lagging or not.
At this point, we have several possible causes:
- The Moga App is causing delays (which I think is part of it)
- New Bluetooth Stack is causing delays (bandwidth, timing protocols, etc?)
- Kernel/Rom Combination
- Something else

woow guys,never heard of Moga..now i see the official site and i ended buying it...awesome!and only for not more than 40 euros..don't know you,but for prices in italy it's very cheap!
great 3ad,i anxiously waiting the arrives of mine!
MC4 and gta VC totally different story with Moga!

Anyone having problems or just me?
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player911 said:
Anyone having problems or just me?
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It seems to be a problem with the pivot app, as I was getting input-lag quite quickly when I was trying nova 3 on my galaxy s3 (I'm on 4.1.2, AOKP, btw) while using the universal driver I was having a blast playing emulator games without any input-lag. And yeah, for Modern Combat 3 the right analog stick was not working (also grenade button) when using system mode for the universal driver.

heat361 said:
Bluetooth is very wonky in 4.2.1 and it is most likely why you receive lag.
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I wish it was just that but this is the same on my one s too
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Does anyone know how to run using the moga controller in mc4?

heat361 said:
Does anyone know how to run using the moga controller in mc4?
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Double tap the up. Same goes for kneeling except you double tab the down button.
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Ouya and current Google Play Store games.

I am just curious can the Ouya play games that I already have purchased on the Google Play Store? I am interested in purchasing the Ouya but only if I can play my current games on it as well.

vbanagas said:
I am just curious can the Ouya play games that I already have purchased on the Google Play Store? I am interested in purchasing the Ouya but only if I can play my current games on it as well.
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In theory... I put Play Market on my Bluestacks and my games that weren't 3D ran fine. With the proper hardware (Ouya) the 3D ones shoudl run, too.

dibblebill said:
In theory... I put Play Market on my Bluestacks and my games that weren't 3D ran fine. With the proper hardware (Ouya) the 3D ones shoudl run, too.
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How would the controller work for this though?

No idea.
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timothycricket said:
How would the controller work for this though?
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Something like this would probably work very properly for the situation.

well they said we can root it so it should be very easy to install google play, so i see no reason why you couldn't. but some may be hard to play with the controller but we will see when we get there. hopefully mines here next month

Games on Ouya
I Plan to use Sixaxis Controller app with games that don't support controlers as i use it on my tablet and i can enable gamepad for showgun if needed. We need someone to test a gamepad supported game on the system with the Ouya controler to see if it works that way.

Does Ouya even have Google Play Store?
I heard it only has their own market (like Ouya Market)
I want my Ouya not only for games, but also a media centre. Like playing movies from HDD ext., browsing, twitter, facebook, and others applications from Play Store.
how cool is that :fingers-crossed:

it hasn't been stated one way or the other. If apps can be side loaded, then I would say even if it's there, you could extract Google Play and loaded it that way, as well as the apps you want. The only thing that isn't know, what apps will play nice with Ouya's interface using a controller. A lot of apps, if not all, are designed from a touch input design.
I don't know if there is anything that Google Play needs besides an Android OS to function. So there could be reasons it may not work despite being able to load it on the Ouya.

Ouya will have their own stores called "Ouya Store". All games are ported to support Ouya consoles.
Shadow Gun is confirmed to work on Ouya. Please wait for the rest announcement!

Search youtube for 'Ouya performance test' there is a guy with a dev console playing lots of current android games so should be able to.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Ouya have a touchpad on the control? That would work the same as touching the screen as long as there is a mouse pointer on the screen or you could enable touch location in the developer settings.

Maybe the new Store is like tha Amazon Store.
Has someone read something about the payment methodes?

any update on if anyone has gotten working playstore on the console?

The Ouya has a custom launcher and all apps and games are required to be recompiled with custom tags in their manifest. Only apps with these custom tags show up in the Ouya UI.
So its possible to adb push the Store and a custom launcher APK but you need a way of switching back and forth.
If you are not using the Oyua UI you will not be able to take advantage of the custom Ouya services such as ranking systems and friends lists.

Play Store Authentication
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I am just curious can the Ouya play games that I already have purchased on the Google Play Store? I am interested in purchasing the Ouya but only if I can play my current games on it as well.
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You have to be rooted to get Play Store on a non-rooted Device.
If you do get root, contact theperson333, I think he can help.
I'm no Expert.

DroidPlayer said:
You have to be rooted to get Play Store on a non-rooted Device.
If you do get root, contact theperson333, I think he can help.
I'm no Expert.
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That post was completely irrelevant
S4 INFO

bigd5783 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Ouya have a touchpad on the control? That would work the same as touching the screen as long as there is a mouse pointer on the screen or you could enable touch location in the developer settings.
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Yes it has in the middle of the controller
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Ouya will be featuring its own app market, not Google play market. The system runs on android Jelly Bean, but that doesn't mean its the same as your tablet or phone. Customized UI and maybe a different file format for games (I'm assuming they're still apks though.) You can pick up the development tool on their website.

I hope they allow PayPal as a purchase method.

[Q] [HELP] Cannot play Gameloft Games on my Note 2

HI All,
My problem is whenever I try to play gameloft games it's just loading on the screen with a circle and black background then after a while it will go to the home screen.:crying: Almost All gameloft games that I already tried didn't work on my GN2 N7105 international version. other games will work but not gameloft games. Am I missing something here? Im rooted but running everything on stock. I just really want to play and try the gameloft games but still no go. anyone can help me fix this issue? Thanks in advance!

Have u tried to backup ur apps and factory reset the phone and then install games and see if that works ?
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are you connected to wifi and have you download the gamedata? some games will only become playable after you download the gamedata (using wifi)..

[REQUEST] Asphalt 8 Sixaxis profile !!

Can someone please make a sixaxis profile for Asphalt 8. i can't get it to work
thanks in advance !!!

Asphalt 8 works great with the OTG cable. However when I connect via Sixaxis the game does not recognize the PS3 game pad. Native Gamepad is selected in Sixaxis options. if I change the keyboard type the game goes all screwy with the screen orentiation and still doesnt work. The native option works fine with other games ie. Dead Trigger. Any help with this?

This is doing my head in when I first played the game it worked perfect no game pad setup was needed just started sixaxis and it worked first time now what ever I do it wont work anyone found a answer for this I guess its a game error

The apps been updated try making a profile now
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Grizzly6117 said:
The apps been updated try making a profile now
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i know, but still hoping that someone could do it. i'm not that good at it

I put the asphalt 8 profile in the sixaxis thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45441104&postcount=47

[Q] OUYA + CM11 + Games?

**This is NOT the typical "how can I get my OUYA **games on CM11"
Rather... anyone find any good Play Store games that can be played with OUYA controllers? If so I'd love to maintain a list here for myself and others. Bonus points if you can recommend Play Store games that use controller AND i can sit with friend(s) and all play on same TV (<-- this I cannot find at all)
Looking forward to some replies!
RECAP OF SOME SUGGESTIONS IN REPLY POSTS:
Ouya Downloader - download games that are in OUYA store - THANKS TO d0ubl3_d1zzl3, post #4
Game & App List - play store apks with documented OUY compatibility - THANKS TO ajb999, post #6
-KrazyKrivda

good question. from what I have gathered the best way to find games on the play store for ouya controller support is to use tegra zone as you can search for games that have controller support. maybe someone will chime in with a list or a better answer but that is what I have found so far.

Reicast (Dreamcast emulator) runs amazingly on Ouya with the controller.

You might wanna check out this app while it's still in the Play Store: Ouya Downloader
I just tested it this morning and it let me download games from the OUYA store w/o a problem. They installed fine, but didn't really get a chance to fully test them out as I'm running low on disk space (which is something else I'm working on); but judging by the filenames of the APKs, they seem to be the OUYA modified versions that will work with the controller. I'll continue testing tonight, but so far it looks quite promising.

d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
You might wanna check out this app while it's still in the Play Store: Ouya Downloader
I just tested it this morning and it let me download games from the OUYA store w/o a problem. They installed fine, but didn't really get a chance to fully test them out as I'm running low on disk space (which is something else I'm working on); but judging by the filenames of the APKs, they seem to be the OUYA modified versions that will work with the controller. I'll continue testing tonight, but so far it looks quite promising.
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I've used this for a few games. My favorite, Bombsquad, will not play. The app auto-shuts down because it doesn't recognize the system as ouya anymore. Have you run into this? And any idea what it may be checking (probably in buildprop) to counteract it?
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The second post at this link has a list of games/apps that work with the OUYA controller. Any that work with the stock OUYA launcher should work on cm11 as long as you have the OUYA controller kl file in place. Should be able to install the button mappings for controllers zip from the cm11 thread to get it.
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php...ames-amp-Applications-(Plus)-How-To-Side-Load

krazykrivda said:
I've used this for a few games. My favorite, Bombsquad, will not play. The app auto-shuts down because it doesn't recognize the system as ouya anymore. Have you run into this? And any idea what it may be checking (probably in buildprop) to counteract it?
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Yeah, doesn't seem like a reliable way of getting games.. I was able to download and install both Shadowgun and RetroArch directly on my Ouya, and RetroArch installed fine and seems to work fine, but Shadowgun installs and loads but stays stuck on the loading screen... I haven't tried installing Shadowgun via the Play Store yet, but seems like installing from that Ouya downloader is hit and miss...
Update: Shadowgun installs and loads fine via the Play Store. It also plays great. Just had to map all the buttons on the OUYA controller before I started to play.