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First off, I take no credit in doing this, this is meant to help people if they want to try it. And I am only making thread at request of others members.
If you break your phone I am not responsible, if you have questions though I am more than willing to help as much as I can but this was the first project I did.
There may be easier ways to do this but this is how I did it. If there is, feel free to comment the other ways!
I would like to say thanks to maddoggin and illinois08 for there help in getting mine figured out!
Requirements:
winrar (this is what I prefer but you can use any of your choice)
Original Swype.apk (included in thread and swype needs to be already installed)
image editing software (I personally used gimp and coreldraw) and experience in them.
common sense
What you are actually changing:
To change the look of swype is fairly simple, meaning all you are changing is some .png files in the apk itself to whatever you want them to be.
The only downside is trying to make sure the letter spacing is correct. That is the reason I used coreldraw first to do the spacing and then the background with my flames was in gimp.
First Step:
Using winrar (7zip, etc) open up Swype.apk (I placed on desktop for easier use).
The first folder should say assets. Open up assets. After you open assets, there should be a folder named keyboards. Drag the keyboards folder to desktop.
Once you open the keyboards folder, you will see multiple image files. You have found the files we need to edit! Make sure every png stays in there even if you decided not to edit one of them.
Files SwypeRef_LS_Blue_Shifted_WVGA.png (LS is landscape keyboard) through SwypeRef_PT_Standard_wBlue_VGA.png (PT is portrait, most important for me)
I only edited 4 of the images because these are the main 4 I use and don't use landscape. If you wish you can edit all of them or just 1 .
Second Step:
Using Gimp/or CorelDRAW, you will need to make new images that are 480x320 pixels. At this point, it is totally up to you to get the placements correct and make the image how you want it displayed.
I personally imported the images I was editing to Corel, and basically started a fresh one on top of it so I could get the letter placements correct. You need to make sure when you are done that the image is still 480x320 with the letters not being the end of the size. I made an outline that was 480x320 and placed the letters inside and exported the image that way so it stayed the right size. I would also try to keep the images around 50 kb because mine are around 90 and you noticed some lag when it switched between pngs...
As you are exporting your images, make sure to name them their appropriate names (shifted, capitals, lower case, etc.) which makes it easier to rename them after wards.
Third Step
Once you have all of your images done how you want, I would place them all in their own separate folder.
Now, you will need to open the keyboards folder from earlier and match the images you edited to where they go in "keyboards" and rename your files to the appropriate name and delete its' counter part. Meaning make sure only your image is in keyboards with it renamed to what mode your png represents. And make sure the folder contains every png it did before. They all serve a purpose.
After you have removed all the old pngs and replaced with your renamed images, you will need to open Swype.apk back up and go to assets-> and delete the original keyboards folder. After deleting, move your keyboards folder with your images under assets.
Swype is now edited with your keyboards how you want them!!
Fourth Step:
The only thing left is either adb push Swype.apk to system/app or place on sd card and install with astro,ez,etc.
Another way that is very easy and the way I do it. If you are using a theme, open up on your desktop with winrar. Go to folder system/app and place Swype.apk in app folder. Now flash from recovery and your new and improved swype is ready for action.
I have attached what I made mine look like. Some people may not like how basic it looks and how some of the things are not sized or off correctly but I like it and it works!!
I also added a picture of my custom dropdown which I made in Gimp. If you would like to know how to do one like this send me a PM.
And if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I may not be the best at explaining things thoroughly !
I have been getting a lot of PM asking how to edit swype ...
Are my instructions to complicated? If so, let me know and I will try to revise them a bit and sorry!
Nah it's cool man. I mean i get it. idk about everyone else. I haven't got around to trying it yet but this lets me know what to expect.
Ok well that is good! Thanks for the reply...
I hope that post didn't come off as rude, if you sent me a PM I more than willing to help everyone! I just wanted to make sure it wasn't bad instructions ...
Dude this is really nice, I like how you changed the letters to diferent font. Nice job! You should make some more!
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Thanks man! Like I said since this was my personal one I didn't go all out and it was kind of sloppy but it suits me fine.
I was thinking about it but not sure what people would want! If some people gave me some ideas of what kind of background or font, I would have no problem making it for them.
Now that I know how to do it (with your help) it won't be as painful as before, just time consuming.
I'm not a user of Swype but I certainly commend the effort that you put into this. It came out great.
stir fry a lot said:
I'm not a user of Swype but I certainly commend the effort that you put into this. It came out great.
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Thank you!
This is GREAT!! Thank you for putting this together.
Your are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions!
Just so everyone is clear, the Swype.apk attached to post is the original swype, not my customized one . Because that is what you have to edit.
Just so no one gets confused.
Thank you for this help. I've wanted to be able to change the way mine looked but have been stuck trying to find someone else's work that suited. I've just started modifying mine and what I've got looks awful but that's because I need to learn how to utilize the imaging programs better. I'm sure I can get it and thank you again for the starter.
ficjay said:
Thank you for this help. I've wanted to be able to change the way mine looked but have been stuck trying to find someone else's work that suited. I've just started modifying mine and what I've got looks awful but that's because I need to learn how to utilize the imaging programs better. I'm sure I can get it and thank you again for the starter.
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Awesome! Im glad it helped you! Im sure you will and hope you share with us the finished product!
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jkrough0728 said:
First off, I take no credit in doing this, this is meant to help people if they want to try it. And I am only making thread at request of others members.
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Im thinkin that pull needs a lil animation......
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jkrough0728 said:
I have been getting a lot of PM asking how to edit swype ...
Are my instructions to complicated? If so, let me know and I will try to revise them a bit and sorry!
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I haven't tried yetyet but I get It fine... great job
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Worked great on my3VO thanks.
Anyone have a link to the nexus s4g version
I want to edit my swype to look like that
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I forgot all about this thread lol
I just edited my 3D's swype today because of you guys posting on it and it made me think to do that so thank you
jkrough0728 said:
I forgot all about this thread lol
I just edited my 3D's swype today because of you guys posting on it and it made me think to do that so thank you
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I just themed one today. HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT EASY!
shane6374 said:
I just themed one today. HOLY CRAP IT'S NOT EASY!
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I know it can be a pain sometimes... Really depends if you want different font that is the hardest thing ever lol
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I've just bought WidgetLocker Lockscreen and using SMS Unread Count to display any missed calls/sms/emails.
The one thing that annoys me about my nice new lockscreen is pressing on the SMS Unread Count widget has an orange highlight before it opens the application.
Is there any way to remove the annoying orange highlight? It seems to be standard for all widgets to be highlighted in some way when pressed.
Been digging through my framework-res.apk and tried editing focused_application_background_static.png to another colour or transparent but this doesn't seem to be the correct image file.
If anyone knows how I can do this could you please point me in the right direction?
So I was looking in the wrong apk file. I guess this is what happens when you're attempting mods when you should be sleeping.
All it took was a simple edit of some .9.png files in the correct apk and now everything is nicely colour coordinated again.
Can someone explain to me how to do this in detail?
Anyone ?
Been a few months, but I still can't find which files to edit. Anyone know?
can we get this on ICS ROMS mms.apk the unread counter i miss it much
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Man I feel so sorry for you lol. It seems like this wasn't a hard problem to solve but nobody wanted to help... anyway, cheers to you that you solved the problem!
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Man I feel so sorry for you lol. It seems like this wasn't a hard problem to solve but nobody wanted to help... anyway, cheers to you that you solved the problem!
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LOL I haven't solved it yet. The OP has solved it and I wanted to know what he did. He never responded though, even in PMs. I guess no one's been opening this thread because it says SOLVED in the thread title.
EH15 said:
LOL I haven't solved it yet. The OP has solved it and I wanted to know what he did. He never responded though, even in PMs. I guess no one's been opening this thread because it says SOLVED in the thread title.
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Oh oops I guess I wasn't really paying attention when reading... Anyway, you just need to decompile the widget/app apk and replace the image file that gives the orange glow with a transparent one. You can sort of tell which one it is by looking at the file names.
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waylaidwanderer said:
Oh oops I guess I wasn't really paying attention when reading... Anyway, you just need to decompile the widget/app apk and replace the image file that gives the orange glow with a transparent one. You can sort of tell which one it is by looking at the file names.
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Yup, I found the apk I need. It's com.kanokgems.smswidget-1.apk. I replaced a couple of images using WinRar, then used Root Explorer and copied it over to it's original location. Then restarted my phone, but it didn't work. The app wouldn't run properly...
You need to decompile it with APKtool or Auto APK Manager, and recompile it that way. Not always necessary, but that's the best way. And the most important part is to re/sign the apk file after you've recompiled it.
(Try installing it; if it tells you "Application not installed" you probably haven't signed it properly, and if you do sign it correctly it should work, otherwise uninstall the app and install your modded one).
Just delete badgeprovider.apk
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Got it to work.
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Got it to work.
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That's great! I hope I helped!
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I'm looking into developing an app that adds a current-app-restart function for force-quitting the current app with focus and then restarting it. But, I want to add it to the Navigation Bar in ICS (requiring root would be fine) but I can't seem to find anywhere that talks about creating an app that inserts a button into the nav bar. If it is possible, will it have to be manually started via a regular app link or can it register itself with the OS? Either way is fine; the latter preferable, of course. The app logic itself is no problem, it's the adding a nav button I need help with.
Anyone able to point me in the right direction for documentation? Is it possible without recompiling the rom? Thanks for the help.
As much as I want to help you, I know almost nothing. I do know you're in the wrong section though. Try the Q&A. And when you do make this, you could post it here, or maybe themes and apps if its an app.
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hmm.. figured android development would be the place to go for android development. I'll post in the other forum and if I find something I'll post back.
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hmm.. figured android development would be the place to go for android development. I'll post in the other forum and if I find something I'll post back.
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Here the mods/users prefer to see a work in progress or a finished product. Sorry
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sanosuke001 said:
I'm looking into developing an app that adds a current-app-restart function for force-quitting the current app with focus and then restarting it. But, I want to add it to the Navigation Bar in ICS (requiring root would be fine) but I can't seem to find anywhere that talks about creating an app that inserts a button into the nav bar. If it is possible, will it have to be manually started via a regular app link or can it register itself with the OS? Either way is fine; the latter preferable, of course. The app logic itself is no problem, it's the adding a nav button I need help with.
Anyone able to point me in the right direction for documentation? Is it possible without recompiling the rom? Thanks for the help.
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What's ICS?
Since you'd have to edit code, it cannot be done without decompiling/recompiling. Edits in both SystemUI.apk and frameworkres.apk, but I wouldn't even begin to know what xml's and other edits would be involved.
Plus, I think you've got this posted in the wrong thread friend. Should be in general.
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Seriously? You say general, the other guy said Q&A. gd this forum is confusing...
I'm not looking to edit the OS, I'm looking to create an app that adds a button to the nav bar. If that's not possible, I guess I'll abandon the whole idea because I don't want to have to recompile my current ROM everytime it gets updated :/
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Seriously? You say general, the other guy said Q&A. gd this forum is confusing...
I'm not looking to edit the OS, I'm looking to create an app that adds a button to the nav bar. If that's not possible, I guess I'll abandon the whole idea because I don't want to have to recompile my current ROM everytime it gets updated :/
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If you are asking a question then Q&A seems like a good fit. If you are making a statement or giving info then general is usually the correct place...
The simplest thing to remember though if there is nothing released or developed then the development section is most definitely not the correct place to be in.
This section is the place where the users have no mercy. You can get away with the other sections a whole lot easier. Oh, and then there is the apps and then section where you will find some mod as well.
How that helps...
It cannot be done with vanilla ICS... You'd have to customise the navigation bar code to do what you want... AOKP has the ability to add any app shortcut to the navigation bar... You could use that as a reference...
I figured Q&A would be for android questions, general for conversation, and development for development. As I'm looking to "develop" an app, it seemed reasonable.
Oh well, I posted in the Q&A forum. Thanks for the help, I'll get it down eventually.
The guide on this post should help get started. I don't know if you can insert references to an external app as it looks like the entries tie into the resources in the navbar itself. Anyways have a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743979
Also as others have stated, questions (even having to do with development) belong in the Q&A section. There's also a separate xda section for help developing apps which would probably be a prime place to start as they would know more about general ICS things such as nav button editing.
Don't know how to write it but to me with root access it would seem like every time you wanted to change a nav bar button it would need to place the apk into the system which normally if you run adb push Systemui.apk to your phone it usually force closes the systemui and will either restart after pushing or need a reboot to take effect. I don't know of a way to push images or xml changes to a apk without pushing a whole apk in example I don't think you can do this
adb push battery_charge.xml /system/app/Systemui.apk/drawables/battery_charge.xml I would look into how t mobile theme chooser is written that allows things like that to happen should be a pretty good start.
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Thanks! I'll take a look
Hello,
Whenever I get a picture sent to me via MMS, it shows it as a slideshow. This drives me crazy and I wish it didn't.
I've Googled it so many times and looked everywhere but haven't been able to figure it out.
I found this thread for a Note2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221045
Adding this into system/csc/feature does the trick.
<CscFeature_Message_EnableMmsOnePageViewer>true</CscFeature_Message_EnableMmsOnePageViewer>
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But I'm not sure how to apply that to my SGH-i747M
Please help!!!
I've read that some people just get a different texting app, but I'd rather just fix the stock one. Unless there are some other benefits that I don't know about.
Thanks!!!
Most of the rooted stock roms found in the development section have this fixed.
Is there any way to fix it on the stock ROM though? I'm rooted but don't have time to look at changing Roms right now but would just like to fix this one issue.
The best solution I've found is to ask the sender to just send the picture and not include any text. If they do this, I will come through as just a picture that you can pinch and zoom. This is a hack, but works and is better than nothing.
I guess I just figured that the Note2 and S3 are similar so the fix would be easy to apply here, but I guess not.
philhouse said:
Hello,
Whenever I get a picture sent to me via MMS, it shows it as a slideshow. This drives me crazy and I wish it didn't.
I've Googled it so many times and looked everywhere but haven't been able to figure it out.
I found this thread for a Note2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221045
But I'm not sure how to apply that to my SGH-i747M
Please help!!!
I've read that some people just get a different texting app, but I'd rather just fix the stock one. Unless there are some other benefits that I don't know about.
Thanks!!!
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Just add that line of code to /system/csc/feature.xml
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102651
Unfortunately you need to be rooted to edit feature.xml.
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Just add that line of code to /system/csc/feature.xml
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102651
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Perfect thanks! Before I go and do that, is it as simple as using Root Explorer, finding feature.xml and adding that line in?
philhouse said:
Perfect thanks! Before I go and do that, is it as simple as using Root Explorer, finding feature.xml and adding that line in?
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Yup. Just add it in the "Message" section. Actually anywhere is fine, but if you add it as the last line in the message section you will be able to easily find it again.
upndwn4par said:
Yup. Just add it in the "Message" section. Actually anywhere is fine, but if you add it as the last line in the message section you will be able to easily find it again.
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I just went to do this but I don't have a feature file in that location which was my original problem... I thought you had given the correct location for the file on the S3. Any ideas where it would be?
I just looked at others.xml in system/csc and there is similar language to the other hacks listed in that thread.
Does anyone know if that is the correct place for out S3s?
philhouse said:
I just looked at others.xml in system/csc and there is similar language to the other hacks listed in that thread.
Does anyone know if that is the correct place for out S3s?
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I just tried adding it to others.xml and it worked!!!
Hi there,
I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this, so please let me know if I'm in the wrong place. I've been searching for days and days for a definitive method of changing the system font color in TW. I've tried al the guides out there, but none seem to positively identify which lines to edit. I have modded my framework background color to white. I'm trying to achieve more of an S4 white theme, therefore I need to change the font from gray/white to black. I'm running rooted MD4 deodexed with MD4 optimized kernel. I've attached a screenshot so that you can see which font I'm talking about. Any help in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much!
do you know how to decompile/compile? If so you will have to decompile your system apps one by one and start working on changing all the lines that state "text". Its a bit more difficult than just calling out some lines for you to go in change because some system apps draw from each other. I believe the ones you have circled are in framework-res.apk. Its alot of hit and miss...its really perfect if your a flashaholic because you flash a lot trying to get what your looking for.
I know this really isnt what you're looking for but its really the way it is. It can be a real pain but really fun once you learn how to do this.
Thanks for your response. Yes I do. I've been decompiling and recompiling my framework-res for days now. Each time editing different lines as your suggesting. It's been very frustrating trying to find the right one. I will say one thing though, I can now decompile, edit, recompile and push and apk faster than I ever thought. I guess I'll keep trying until I figure it out. I love a good fight. Thanks again for your help!
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Thanks for your response. Yes I do. I've been decompiling and recompiling my framework-res for days now. Each time editing different lines as your suggesting. It's been very frustrating trying to find the right one. I will say one thing though, I can now decompile, edit, recompile and push and apk faster than I ever thought. I guess I'll keep trying until I figure it out. I love a good fight. Thanks again for your help!
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No problem man...I wish I could just tell u the exact lines...Most are in res/values/colors. I wish it was all just one line to edit...lol. I'm working on contacts now and man its ruff trying to get it the way you want it! I can tell you a good app to look for is called color edit...it will show you the color of the hex in ur values/colors file. Makes life way more easier.
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Very good idea. I never thought of actually having an app for identifying colors. I've been Googling each one as I go. Well, I'll let you know when I find the culprit.
For you primary and secondary text colors, try looking in framework in the res/colors folder. Should be labeled something like tw_primary_text_dark.xml and tw_secondary_text_dark.xml. Not sure if that's the exact names without looking, but it pretty close. You can also change a lot of your button text, spinner text in the same folder, just look at the different xmls. The text you have highlighted should be the first one I mentioned up above. Tw_primary_text_dark. Hope that helps you out some.
There are still other colors you may want to edit the res/values/colors and res/values/styles but the main text your looking for is in res/colors.
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Hi Dazed. You're the man. I see 2 files, 1 is "primary_text_dark" and the other is "tw_primary_text_holo_dark". To be clear, I think I'm supposed to open the XML and edit within. In the one marked "tw_primary_text_holo_dark", I see the last line reads: <item android:color="#ffd7d7d7" />. That color code points to light gray. Should I change that to #ff000000 for black?
Mission accomplished. You were right on Dazed. I went into framework-res/res/colors, navigated to "tw_primary_text_holo_dark, opened the XML for editing, the last line read: <item android:color="#ffd7d7d7" />. I simply changed the color to #ff000000 and voilá, I appreciate your help. I should have posted her e alot sooner! Big thanks
Glad you found it. Feel free to ask all the questions you need man, somebody definitely help you out. If you don't find answers also feel free to send me a message and I'll try my best to help along the way.
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Glad you found it. Feel free to ask all the questions you need man, somebody definitely help you out. If you don't find answers also feel free to send me a message and I'll try my best to help along the way.
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Dazed you are the man... @nyfl2004 glad there was a grand Master to step in and point you in the right direction!:beer:
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Thanks @bigpappags3. Thanks to you guys, I've taken another step in my Android education. I'm sure I'll hit another wall soon enough. Thanks again....................
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Thanks @bigpappags3. Thanks to you guys, I've taken another step in my Android education. I'm sure I'll hit another wall soon enough. Thanks again....................
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We have a crew on Hangouts that have some very Knowledgable fellas to be able to talk to too. @dazednconfused happens to be one of the very wise ones there...if you wanna join you can hit me or Dazed up on pm and we'll shoot you an invite.
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We have a crew on Hangouts that have some very Knowledgable fellas to be able to talk to too. @dazednconfused happens to be one of the very wise ones there...if you wanna join you can hit me or Dazed up on pm and we'll shoot you an invite.
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Thanks @bigpappags3. I appreciate the gesture. It's very big of you guys to take the time and share your knowledge with others. I'm just a noob whose eager to learn. I'll take you up on your offer! Be well
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Thanks @bigpappags3. I appreciate the gesture. It's very big of you guys to take the time and share your knowledge with others. I'm just a noob whose eager to learn. I'll take you up on your offer! Be well
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No worries. ...I'm still a noob too!
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I still ask questions all the time. That's what's great about this community. If your having trouble trying to figure out something, there is usually somebody willing to help you out. Just continue to share what you know and keep the cycle going.
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Hi Dazed. I'm back to pick your brains again. My latest project has been to try and make my Secphone to look like the white GS4 theme. I am using WinterLove's modded apk form the Note II port. I can't seem to figure out how to change the black "in-call background" to gray. Also, can you please point me in the right direction as far as the "in-call button text. I want to change that from white/gray to black. I've attached 2 screenshots. Please respond at your convenience. Many thanks
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Hi Dazed. I'm back to pick your brains again. My latest project has been to try and make my Secphone to look like the white GS4 theme. I am using WinterLove's modded apk form the Note II port. I can't seem to figure out how to change the black "in-call background" to gray. Also, can you please point me in the right direction as far as the "in-call button text. I want to change that from white/gray to black. I've attached 2 screenshots. Please respond at your convenience. Many thanks
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Try looking in SecPhone.apk in the res/colors folder. I will be working today, so I can't take a look, but I'm pretty sure you have some xml's in there too change the button text and in call button text. I should be off on Sunday, if you have any trouble finding it, I'll take a look at it then.
EDIT: try SecPhone/res/colors/incall_button_text.xml for the button text.
I'm not completely sure on the black background right off, check in SecPhone/res/values/colors and see if its maybe one of the incall_call_banner_backgrounds maybe.
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Hi Dazed,
Thanks for getting back to me. I know you're busy. I figured that's where they were, but I think it's above my pay-grade now. I can easily change any .png's but I can't seem to edit any XML's. I can decompile SecSettings and edit the XML's, but when I try to re-compile, I get all sorts of errors. I'm using MultiTool v1.0.11. The only things I have left to change are the in-call background and the in-call button text. Thanks for all your help brother!!
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Hi Dazed,
Thanks for getting back to me. I know you're busy. I figured that's where they were, but I think it's above my pay-grade now. I can easily change any .png's but I can't seem to edit any XML's. I can decompile SecSettings and edit the XML's, but when I try to re-compile, I get all sorts of errors. I'm using MultiTool v1.0.11. The only things I have left to change are the in-call background and the in-call button text. Thanks for all your help brother!!
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Can u attach a screenie of the errors u are getting? Also have you edited any .9pngs? Messing just one up can give you a hundred errors. I use apktool but maybe I can throw some of my limited knowledge ur way
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Hey Bigpappags3. Thanks brother. Yes, I have actually copied some .9pngs into some of the drawable folders. If it's Ok, I'll send some screenies over to you tomorrow. I'm sure that even your limited knowledge is plenty good enough! I've been at this all day and the Mrs is giving me the look. Thanks again for for all your help!! Good night