I just converted from stock to 10.1 8/12 and seem to have run into a little hiccup. Most things work well but for some reason the latest playstore version of swiftkey tablet isn't functioning well. Sometimes it will come up for a couple of characters and then close and not come back up. Others it won't come up at all. I've tried uninstalling it, reinstalling it, etc. but I can't seem to make it happy. I've got the same version of swiftkey running on my nook that's converted to cyanogenmod 10.1 and it runs without issue so it seems to be something specific to this device. The stock keyboard works but after using swiftkey for years it's a pretty crappy experience in comparison. The tablet is pretty much a stock 10.1 install so I'm not really sure where things could have gone off the rails.
Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Same problem here. Already opened a case with SwiftKey support. No solution yet.
Interesting, the trial version is working.
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I just checked the issue again and found the problem.
Logcat:
08-27 05:05:57.739 D/dalvikvm(12232): Trying to load lib /mnt/asec/com.touchtype.swiftkey.tablet.full-1/lib/libswiftkeysdk-java-internal.so 0x420aaa28
08-27 05:05:57.840 F/libc (12232): Fatal signal 4 (SIGILL) at 0x5df73b46 (code=1), thread 12232 (key.tablet.full)
Interesting. Looks like the Swiftkey is getting installed on sdcard. The trial version is getting installed on /data/app and is working.
Now I just moved the app to /data/app by backup/restore within Titanium backup.
Now its working.
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On my Note the phone version is installed on /mnt/asec too but its working.
Difference in how asec is mounting:
fire cm 10.1:
/dev/block/dm-29 /mnt/asec/com.vito.lux-2 ext4 ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noatime,barrier=1 0 0
note cm 10.1
/dev/block/dm-35 /mnt/asec/com.team17.ab-1 ext4 ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noatime,user_xattr,barrier=1 0 0
Don't know if it could be the missing user_xattr but I doubt it.
Other apps that have libs works on asec.
Okay, something looks wrong with the asec.
I just found another app that only works after moved to /data/app.
It is Osmos HD.
Could be other apps and games too. Games will often be installed on "sdcard".
As far as I understand, in this ROM we don't have a second internal storage like we have on the Note.
Because all is in one big storage we should not need this asec crap in the first place:
Fire
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Free Blksize
/data 13G 11.3G 1.7G 4096
Note
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Free Blksize
/data 2G 1.6G 368.4M 4096
The real question is, why get apps installed on this asec? As far as I know a app could request to be installed on external storage. When this android_secure feature first showed up, there was a option to force apps to get installed on the sdcard. But we can force it the other way too:
In a adb shell (as root):
pm get-install-location
This should show 0 which is auto.
pm set-install-location 1
This set package manager to force all apps to install on /data/.
Looks like this does not work. I tried to uninstall and reinstall Osmos HD from the Play Store and it still gets installed on asec. I'll post a info about this thread in the rom discussion thread, hope we get a solution for this.
Now whats with already installed apps?
On the Note we could manually move the app back to the internal storage within settings / apps.
This does not work on the Kindle because there is no "sdcard" storage in the first place. So it does not show the buttons. I tried two App2SD Apps from the Play Store, they did not work because they find no "sdcard" too.
For now the best way I found is to look into /mnt/asec and manually backup / restore the app (no uninstall needed and you can restore only the app) inside Titanium Backup. This will move it to the internal storage.
I've attached the logcats of the two apps crashing when started from asec.
Not all the apps that where installed on /mnt/asec had this issue but I found more, mostly games:
Worms 2
Perry
Getaway
Tiny Thief
Sonic 1 & 4
I'll check games I tried before that wasn't working.
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With this trick now Asphalt 8 is working too!
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NFS most wanted works too. Now that's a game tablet.
That was it, you nailed it!
Thanks so much for the help. The native keyboard was driving me crazy but I had no idea what the root issue was. A simple backup and restore with titanium backup fixed the problem completely. I wasn't sure if I would need to explicitly indicate the destination but it figured it out.
Do you think this is something that is a compatibility issue with the app combined with the Roman or an issue with the Rom itself that might get resolved?
brotbuexe said:
Okay, something looks wrong with the asec.
I just found another app that only works after moved to /data/app.
It is Osmos HD.
Could be other apps and games too. Games will often be installed on "sdcard".
As far as I understand, in this ROM we don't have a second internal storage like we have on the Note.
Because all is in one big storage we should not need this asec crap in the first place:
Fire
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Free Blksize
/data 13G 11.3G 1.7G 4096
Note
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Free Blksize
/data 2G 1.6G 368.4M 4096
The real question is, why get apps installed on this asec? As far as I know a app could request to be installed on external storage. When this android_secure feature first showed up, there was a option to force apps to get installed on the sdcard. But we can force it the other way too:
In a adb shell (as root):
pm get-install-location
This should show 0 which is auto.
pm set-install-location 1
This set package manager to force all apps to install on /data/.
Looks like this does not work. I tried to uninstall and reinstall Osmos HD from the Play Store and it still gets installed on asec. I'll post a info about this thread in the rom discussion thread, hope we get a solution for this.
Now whats with already installed apps?
On the Note we could manually move the app back to the internal storage within settings / apps.
This does not work on the Kindle because there is no "sdcard" storage in the first place. So it does not show the buttons. I tried two App2SD Apps from the Play Store, they did not work because they find no "sdcard" too.
For now the best way I found is to look into /mnt/asec and manually backup / restore the app (no uninstall needed and you can restore only the app) inside Titanium Backup. This will move it to the internal storage.
I've attached the logcats of the two apps crashing when started from asec.
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Sorry rom not Roman, I got a little too SwiftKey happy there.
gizmotn76 said:
That was it, you nailed it!
Thanks so much for the help. The native keyboard was driving me crazy but I had no idea what the root issue was. A simple backup and restore with titanium backup fixed the problem completely. I wasn't sure if I would need to explicitly indicate the destination but it figured it out.
Do you think this is something that is a compatibility issue with the app combined with the Roman or an issue with the Rom itself that might get resolved?
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It only affects some apps installed in /mnt/asec, not all.
You can get the package names from the directory names inside /mnt/asec.
With Titaniumbackup you can search with the package name for the Application Display Name.
Then you could just run the app/game and check if it closes itself.
Then try to backup/restore app only and rund the app again.
I had around 20 apps/games in /mnt/asec. Only some games where affected by this issue and didn't start.
Because /mnt/asec is useless for this ROM I moved alle the packages to /data/.
For now when a app is updated from playstore, the updated app is installed in /mnt/asec again...
All games I tried where working after I moved them to /data. Don't know if there is still a game that would not work on the kindle because of some gpu / driver issues (aside of games for special chipsets).
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Alright. Something has been driving me crazy. I know, short trip..right. However, I need your input to figure out what is going on here.
midNIGHT ROM is stripped of most of the bloatware. This is done by pulling the .apks out the the system/app folder prior to flashing the ROM. Now, one Sprint app in particular is, reinstalling itself after removal..
I have removed Sprint Zone from the system/app folder, however, after flashing the ROM it reappears over the next day or so. However, this time it shows up in the data. Meaning it was installed at some point after the apk was removed from the system/app folder at some point. The apk name has changes as well.
It has gone form this location and name:
system/app/SprintZone.apk
to
data/app/com.sprint.dsa.apk
Now anyone that has flashed my ROM will see that with the exception of Sprint Hotspot all other Sprint bloat has been removed. How many of you are seeing Sprint Zone show up later without your permission?
Is anyone else bothered by Sprints ability to do this?
That's kinda weird. I'm running Starburst 1.5 and I look in my app drawer, and see no Sprint Zone. Then I go into settings > applications > all, and sure enough I see Sprint Zone there.
Edit - ooops, I missed it, I do see it in my app drawer now. No idea if Starburst 1.5 removes that or not.
cds0699 said:
That's kinda weird. I'm running Starburst 1.5 and I look in my app drawer, and see no Sprint Zone. Then I go into settings > applications > all, and sure enough I see Sprint Zone there.
Edit - ooops, I missed it, I do see it in my app drawer now. No idea if Starburst 1.5 removes that or not.
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Most ROM's are stripped of Bloat prior to release. Where is yours installed? If it's in data/app it has been reinstalled at some point....
I haven't looked into the actual mechanism so I can't provide directions on how to stop it. But what's likely happening is that Sprint has moved some of their stock-apps from being preinstalled to /system to being installed/downloaded on first boot to /data.
This gives users the ability to uninstall (certain) stock apps from /data and reclaim that space, which is something that users have long requested and carriers are finally making available.
I wouldn't assume at first that this is Sprint arbitrarilly pushing applications to phones at any time. Although they may have that capability as well, I don't know.
Not sure about sprint zone, but once every few days, the sprint junk like Telenav, Nova, Nascar, and I think one more app randomly appears in my app drawer (installed to data partition).
It might do it every time our phones go through hands free activation (via ##72786#) but that's just pure speculation on my part from experience.
Sidenote, does anyone know what "Sprintandroidextension.apk" is responsible for? Seems to prohibit profile/prl updates when removed, but could be coincidence with less signal at my current location.
ptfdmedic said:
Most ROM's are stripped of Bloat prior to release. Where is yours installed? If it's in data/app it has been reinstalled at some point....
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Yep, it was reinstalled at some point.
mkasick said:
I haven't looked into the actual mechanism so I can't provide directions on how to stop it. But what's likely happening is that Sprint has moved some of their stock-apps from being preinstalled to /system to being installed/downloaded on first boot to /data.
This gives users the ability to uninstall (certain) stock apps from /data and reclaim that space, which is something that users have long requested and carriers are finally making available.
I wouldn't assume at first that this is Sprint arbitrarilly pushing applications to phones at any time. Although they may have that capability as well, I don't know.
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I have made sure to remove all the apks that can be removed safely, as far as sprint bloat is concerned. I never had this issue on the Epic 4G either, until recently.
If I remove Sprint Zone from data/app it will show up again in a few days and I begin receiving messages in the notification bar.
I have only experienced this with Sprint Zone but others are saying they are getting other Sprint Apps showing up. If Sprint ID was still present than I would think that could be a part of it, especially if it had been launched. However, Sprint ID was removed prior to flashing the ROM as were all the other Sprint bloat.
I'm not saying they have any malicious intent behind this but I don't want anyone pushing apps to my device, if that is indeed what is happening, without me providing permission prior to install.....
You can add me to the list. I keep getting it!!!
Me too. I noticed when I called *2. I immediately uninstalled it after. I just checked and sprint music, TV, Nascar, hotspot and movies have all returned, as well. Going to uninstall them with titanium. This is bull****.
Sent from my extra sensory space modulator while performing the slippery cricket
I am running midNIGHT 2.1 and it reinstalled on mine as well
Its not pushing to your phone... they are on a /preinstall partition...
When I get to my pc ill give more details
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Sprint Zone popped up for me and I thought maybe it's because I reinstalled TW Launcher (along with the bloat) but I 100% removed it shortly after installation and now it's back.
chris41g said:
Its not pushing to your phone... they are on a /preinstall partition...
When I get to my pc ill give more details
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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That's interesting. I know on the Photon there is a visible folder labled preinstall. It makes things pretty difficult to remove at times.
I would be very interested in learning more. Thank you ..
I've removed it successfully with both Titanium Backup and SDX app remover, it hasn't returned for me.
I am running Midnight 2.1 and mine has not returned.
ok excuse me, its /preload...
anyway.. i found it while doing some test via teamviewer trying to remedy the yellow triangle
Code:
adb shell
su
mount -o remount,rw / /
mkdir -p /preload
mount -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /preload
mount -o remount,ro / /
to look at it.. as for when it prompts a restore of these apps, I don't know... as for what happens if you were to delete them, again.. I don't know...
if you do, back them up so you can put them back in case something goes wrong...
I thought I remember some stuff showing up in stock recovery saying it was installing some apks when I chose the boot system now option, even though I didn't ask it do anything. I just figured it was some residual stuff left over from initial startup. Possibly it is reinstalling the preload stuff.
Is that why we can delete some is the bloatware because they are held on a preload partition
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
I believe what is happening is when you do certain operations like booting into stock recovery or doing ##786# reset, it is copying the files in the hidden partition (/dev/block/mmcblk0p12) to /data/app
These are the contents of the hidden partition
Code:
-rw-r--r-- root root 15354 2011-07-30 07:56 MobiTV.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 16271 2011-07-30 07:56 NOVA2HD.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 17349 2011-07-30 07:56 SprintMusicPlus.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 15996 2011-07-30 07:56 Telenav.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 14643 2011-07-30 07:56 mSpotRadioSprint_VPL.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 17197 2011-07-30 07:56 nascar09_prod.apk
As far as "bloatware" goes, this is pretty minimal and relatively easy to remove (you can remove them from Android using the Android app manager). These aren't the "actual" apps, they are just placeholders which download the actual apps when you first click on them. Even if you didn't remove them, they don't take up significant space, nor do they run anything in the background. Essentially they are just shortcuts on the desktop. You could theoretically remove the files from the hidden partition (backing them up if you want) and they'd be done for good, never showing up again even on resets.
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With respect to Sprint Zone that is actually an app in /system. Usually it shows up after you remove it because Sprint Installer runs in the background and "updates" Sprint's "system" apps.
sfhub said:
With respect to Sprint Zone that is actually an app in /system. Usually it shows up after you remove it because Sprint Installer runs in the background and "updates" Sprint's "system" apps.
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Taking this into consideration, I just uninstalled all the crap apps again and also uninstalled Sprint Installer. Hopefully, this will stop it from happening again.
Wouldn't that be something if we found out that the Sprint Installer running in the background was the culprit for LOS?
Can't update/install anything ..
"Insufficient Space" or "Out of Space" ...
what's crazy is that it seems that this only happens for apps i either already have or apps that I once had in the past (either that, or it's just random that I was able to install another file that was BIGGER than the update that said insufficient space).
I tried wiping cache, wiping dalvik cache, factory reset, and wiped my internal SD and let it rebuild itself.
Seemed fine until I finally got everything back to where it once was.
I'm going a bit crazy over this ... please help!! I've tried so many things. Why is this happening and how do I resolve this issue?
EDIT (Extra Info):
/mnt/extSdCard: 15.69GB
/sdcard: 1.98GB
/data: 3.95GB
/system: 1.44GB
(Under "Settings >> STORAGE")
Total: 11.95GB
Applications: 3.15GB
Pictures, videos: 209MB
Audio: 92kb (ehh, Pandora fan lol)
Available space: 8.45GB
______________________________
SD card total space: 29.46GB
Available Space: 13.73GB
ALSO,
I tried to clear Google Play Store, tried downgrading to factory play store, and tried clearing the data from Google Play Store and nothing different happened for my issue.
Related Threads:
"Error in playstore"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013532&highlight=insufficient+space
"Insufficient space?"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43512717#post43512717
RIGHT NOW,
After finding these new threads, I'm trying to mess with lucky patcher, then i'll try reinstalling gapps if failed. I'll return here and update.
-- Update: Market Fix app didn't fix
-- Update: Lucky Patcher didn't do anything by "just opening it" like someone suggested ... anything specific to click?
-- Update: Tried rebooting after the above 2, still nothing new.
-- Update: Tried reflashing the latest gapps through goomanager, nothing.
-- Update: Tried removing google account and adding it back, nothing.
-- CURRENT: Trying to search for odex files with EF File Explorer (+Root Explorer RW), but still saying "File cannot be deleted"? I just searched for "odex" .. it's safe to delete all odex files, right?
Chronei said:
Can't update/install anything ..
"Insufficient Space" or "Out of Space" ...
what's crazy is that it seems that this only happens for apps i either already have or apps that I once had in the past (either that, or it's just random that I was able to install another file that was BIGGER than the update that said insufficient space).
I tried wiping cache, wiping dalvik cache, factory reset, and wiped my internal SD and let it rebuild itself.
Seemed fine until I finally got everything back to where it once was.
I'm going a bit crazy over this ... please help!! I've tried so many things. Why is this happening and how do I resolve this issue?
EDIT (Extra Info):
/mnt/extSdCard: 15.69GB
/sdcard: 1.98GB
/data: 3.95GB
/system: 1.44GB
(Under "Settings >> STORAGE")
Total: 11.95GB
Applications: 3.15GB
Pictures, videos: 209MB
Audio: 92kb (ehh, Pandora fan lol)
Available space: 8.45GB
______________________________
SD card total space: 29.46GB
Available Space: 13.73GB
ALSO,
I tried to clear Google Play Store, tried downgrading to factory play store, and tried clearing the data from Google Play Store and nothing different happened for my issue.
Related Threads:
"Error in playstore"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013532&highlight=insufficient+space
"Insufficient space?"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43512717#post43512717
RIGHT NOW,
After finding these new threads, I'm trying to mess with lucky patcher, then i'll try reinstalling gapps if failed. I'll return here and update.
-- Update: Market Fix app didn't fix
-- Update: Lucky Patcher didn't do anything by "just opening it" like someone suggested ... anything specific to click?
-- Update: Tried rebooting after the above 2, still nothing new.
-- Update: Tried reflashing the latest gapps through goomanager, nothing.
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This is because you have an ODEX file hanging around from your previous app install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936556
-Mike
Isn't this the one that's solved by going into your accounts in the main settings and removing your Google account and the readding it?
I remember getting it A LONG time ago..
DC2CA said:
Isn't this the one that's solved by going into your accounts in the main settings and removing your Google account and the readding it?
I remember getting it A LONG time ago..
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Nope, didn't work.
BUT as for the odex guy , this seems promising! I found odex files, but can't delete. Access denied using ES File Explorer (the two root explorer options are both +RW). How come i can't delete these?
mcapozzi said:
This is because you have an ODEX file hanging around from your previous app install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936556
-Mike
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Hey man, any idea how to delete these without getting "program cannot be deleted" error? I thought ES File Explorer would do the trick.
Also, should i just do a search for "odex" then delete all odex files?
I'm seeing program-bcd7-LOTS_OF_CHARACTERS.dex.odex from /data/data/
No! Delete those and you'll probably not be able to boot. You'll wind up having to reflash your Rom or firmware.
What are you currently running? Rooted?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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If you want to, ONLY delete odex files for any app you've already uninstalled. Root is required to do this though.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
mcapozzi said:
This is because you have an ODEX file hanging around from your previous app install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936556
-Mike
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FIXED!!!!!!!
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just do the belove steps :
1-install the lasted version of android sdk
2-install samsung galaxy driver on your pc or laptop
3-turn USB DEBUGGING on(Go to Settings -> Applications -> Development and enable USB debugging.)
4-connect your galaxy s3(or other devices)to pc via cable
5-run CMD on your computer(on Windows: click Start, type “cmd” and press Enter)
6-type F: (the drive that your android sdk is in)
7-type cd "F:\andsdk\android-sdk\platform-tools" (the drive that your android sdk is in)(we need platform-tools folder to do our work)
8-type adb devices
9-type adb shell
10-type pm set-install-location 1
11-type exit
12-smile and install all the play store apps
Mahdi Kahkesh From IRAN
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Hi !
This is my first entry into smartp/phone tablet world.
So far im enjoying it very much, what i diddnt know is that having an external sd card and moving data to it would be such a hassle in certain ways.
I rooted the gpad, tried gl to sd and folder mount but both cant seem to move most of my games (mayby only 18 from my 50ish games)
When i dig in the system memory, most of the games cant be found in the data or obb folders.
They are installed of course, can be played show up in settings/apps and with other programs like titanium backup.
Why dont they show up ?
why are they not in the same folder as the other games ?
How can i get to move those games as well ?
I have been looking on the internet so hard to find awnsers, im actually a bit bummed out by all of this and its taking a way from the fun factor of having this otherwise great device.
If theres no way around this im leaning for a ipad air/pro or whatever is out in a year with 128 gb with a wireless hd with 1 tb.
But there must be something im missing right ?!
Please help me, i would be truly gratefull.
Greetings
Will this help in any way ?
''basically Android is not accessing the proper "name" of the external card and you just need to add one line to fix permissions.''
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-gpe-android-4-3-sd-card-fix-254960/
I would double check foldermount. I personally use this and there has not been a single game that I could not move to my external SD card. You need to ensure you are looking at the correct folders for the game. One item that I also use is Link2SD, however not in the manner you would expect. Link2SD primarly moves the app and not the data files. Additionally it requires separate partition. For me I found it a little of a pain to have to create a separate partition as well as most of the apps/games were small, thus really wanted the data files moved. Thus no longer use Link2SD to worry about the apps. However, I do still use it just to identify the path of the files associated with the specific game or app. Those are then the files I target to move with Foldermount. Again, to-date I have not found an app or game that I could not move to my external card. I have over 30 games running directly off the external SD card. I would take a deeper look at Foldermount. Post up screenshots or paths of games that you may be having a problem with.
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riel88 said:
Will this help in any way ?
''basically Android is not accessing the proper "name" of the external card and you just need to add one line to fix permissions.''
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-gpe-android-4-3-sd-card-fix-254960/
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Do you have the LG V500 or the LG Google Play Edition of the GPad?
You say most of your games dont have a data and obbb folder...which means their data in only loated in the form of apk and library inside the /data/data folder...
Hence...if u make a partition on ur external sd card...you might be able to link the apps and save up on space.
Sent from my GT-S7562 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
List up a few games that you can't seem to move to see if we by chance have them and can compare.
cbb77 said:
I would double check foldermount. I personally use this and there has not been a single game that I could not move to my external SD card. You need to ensure you are looking at the correct folders for the game. One item that I also use is Link2SD, however not in the manner you would expect. Link2SD primarly moves the app and not the data files. Additionally it requires separate partition. For me I found it a little of a pain to have to create a separate partition as well as most of the apps/games were small, thus really wanted the data files moved. Thus no longer use Link2SD to worry about the apps. However, I do still use it just to identify the path of the files associated with the specific game or app. Those are then the files I target to move with Foldermount. Again, to-date I have not found an app or game that I could not move to my external card. I have over 30 games running directly off the external SD card. I would take a deeper look at Foldermount. Post up screenshots or paths of games that you may be having a problem with.
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Do you have the LG V500 or the LG Google Play Edition of the GPad?
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First of all thank you so much for taking interest and replying !
I have the normal gpad v500.
Well this is the thing, i did a factory reset this morning thinking i want to start with a clean slate to see if it would help regarding moving the apps.
So i did the factory reset, redownloaded all my payed and free game apps. i think all in all its around 50 of the best games i could find.
They all can be played, they all show up in the settings/app menu (all is well) AND the folder mount apps analyzer (i mention this because you know this program) BUT ! most of the games have no size value = zero bytes behind it.
when i click on them in the app analyzer in foldermount the menu says '' ''game name'' ''data 0b'' ''obb 0b'' ''folder is empty already bound or does not exist.
Also, when i go into my android system memory (android/ sd card0 or emulated) i cannot find most of my games,
i on purpose redownloaded all the games i 1 go to see it they all go to the same map, but apparently they dont !
its like they are being put in a different folder ? i wish the settings/app program could show me where the data is installed because the games are all fully functional.
It just boggles my mind.
Game list :
movable : magic rampage, shark evolution, dungeon hunter 4, dead trigger, deadzoneunocorn 2, cytus, eyelord waking mars, god of blades, unit9 decro, combo crew, can knockdown,flashout.
non movable and not showing in my folders but so in app analyzer of folder mount but with 0bytes :
bit dungeon,clear vision3,kickoutpolitician,ghostsniper,tribloos,nuttyfluffies,littlegalaxy,berzerk ball,quadropus,towwelflight,asterix,kingts free,stickman downhill, 10000000, plants vs zombies2, banana kong, dungeon raid, overlive, badland,freezecollosatron,jetpackjoyride,fist of awesome,simply rockets,nimble quest,bloodbrothers, motor world car factory,earn to die, punch quest, rayman jubngle run, the sandbox, angry birs,star command, tiny deathstar ..... man the list goes on and on !
singhshantanu1996 said:
You say most of your games dont have a data and obbb folder...which means their data in only loated in the form of apk and library inside the /data/data folder...
Hence...if u make a partition on ur external sd card...you might be able to link the apps and save up on space.
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Thank you for posting and helping me on my way !
I downloaded links 2 sd on reccomendation of the other very helpfull forum friend, this is very helpfull because now i can see the location of the files!
They show like you said they are located in the data/data folder as apk files.
Okay so what now. make partitions - shall i do this with links 2 sd ? and how do i go from there ?
and if the games need updates can they still do it from the partitioned sd card ?
will they still need to be mounted ? can i do this with folder mount ?
i will stop asking questions regarding things far away, what should be my next step ?
Thank you all so much !
Sorry bout my strange english its not my first language
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First of all thank you so much for taking interest and replying !
I have the normal gpad v500.
Well this is the thing, i did a factory reset this morning thinking i want to start with a clean slate to see if it would help regarding moving the apps.
So i did the factory reset, redownloaded all my payed and free game apps. i think all in all its around 50 of the best games i could find.
They all can be played, they all show up in the settings/app menu (all is well) AND the folder mount apps analyzer (i mention this because you know this program) BUT ! most of the games have no size value = zero bytes behind it.
when i click on them in the app analyzer in foldermount the menu says '' ''game name'' ''data 0b'' ''obb 0b'' ''folder is empty already bound or does not exist.
Also, when i go into my android system memory (android/ sd card0 or emulated) i cannot find most of my games,
i on purpose redownloaded all the games i 1 go to see it they all go to the same map, but apparently they dont !
its like they are being put in a different folder ? i wish the settings/app program could show me where the data is installed because the games are all fully functional.
It just boggles my mind.
Game list :
movable : magic rampage, shark evolution, dungeon hunter 4, dead trigger, deadzoneunocorn 2, cytus, eyelord waking mars, god of blades, unit9 decro, combo crew, can knockdown,flashout.
non movable and not showing in my folders but so in app analyzer of folder mount but with 0bytes :
bit dungeon,clear vision3,kickoutpolitician,ghostsniper,tribloos,nuttyfluffies,littlegalaxy,berzerk ball,quadropus,towwelflight,asterix,kingts free,stickman downhill, 10000000, plants vs zombies2, banana kong, dungeon raid, overlive, badland,freezecollosatron,jetpackjoyride,fist of awesome,simply rockets,nimble quest,bloodbrothers, motor world car factory,earn to die, punch quest, rayman jubngle run, the sandbox, angry birs,star command, tiny deathstar ..... man the list goes on and on !
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Ok, first thing is I think you need to check to see if you are still rooted. I mention this as I had also done a factory reset a while back and lost root. Didn't believe it but sure enough I did. Download "Root Checker" from the play store to confirm. You may need to reroot the G Pad again.
This will probably fix FolderMount as it requires root and probably explains why it can't report out correct. Also I thank you. I have been using FolderMount for some time now and never knew of that App Analyzer function. As mentioned, I used Link2SD to determine the path of the files and then created the pairs manually. Thus you just taught me something :good: Nice to see this feature in the app.
Also not sure you are looking at the right location manually either. Use ES File Explorer or Root Explorer to browse the system folders. Then check this path:
/sdcard/Android/obb
you should see some game folders here with data in it. Again, you may not be rooted or using a file browser that allows you to look at the root directory structure. Give this a whirl and report back.
cbb77 said:
Ok, first thing is I think you need to check to see if you are still rooted. I mention this as I had also done a factory reset a while back and lost root. Didn't believe it but sure enough I did. Download "Root Checker" from the play store to confirm. You may need to reroot the G Pad again.
This will probably fix FolderMount as it requires root and probably explains why it can't report out correct. Also I thank you. I have been using FolderMount for some time now and never knew of that App Analyzer function. As mentioned, I used Link2SD to determine the path of the files and then created the pairs manually. Thus you just taught me something :good: Nice to see this feature in the app.
Also not sure you are looking at the right location manually either. Use ES File Explorer or Root Explorer to browse the system folders. Then check this path:
/sdcard/Android/obb
you should see some game folders here with data in it. Again, you may not be rooted or using a file browser that allows you to look at the root directory structure. Give this a whirl and report back.
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Hi !
I did root checker : and yeah im still rooted !
i was looking in the right folder though - in my gpad there are 3 sd card options . 1 is the external this is where i have some comics on and the games that did move.
But on the gpad internal memory it has sdcard0 and emulated ( this one has all the same stuff as the sdcard0 has)
sdcard0/android/obb has no items in it , the data folder does. but not the games im missing. only the games that could be moved where in this folder.
all the games that could not be moves are in apk form .
i found this folder now with es file explorer with root file viewing option enabled.
So apparently i must convert these apk files to my sd card, how do i do this ?
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Hi !
I did root checker : and yeah im still rooted !
i was looking in the right folder though - in my gpad there are 3 sd card options . 1 is the external this is where i have some comics on and the games that did move.
But on the gpad internal memory it has sdcard0 and emulated ( this one has all the same stuff as the sdcard0 has)
sdcard0/android/obb has no items in it , the data folder does. but not the games im missing. only the games that could be moved where in this folder.
all the games that could not be moves are in apk form .
i found this folder now with es file explorer with root file viewing option enabled.
So apparently i must convert these apk files to my sd card, how do i do this ?
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Ok. Surprised that all your games don't have obb data but that is indeed possible. In any case, the only way that I am familiar with moving apk files is with an app like Link2SD. However for that to work you need to partition a section of your external SD card for it. Check the FAQs on the app as they will guide you on how to do this. For me, my main concerns / games have been large data files in obb directory. Thus that is what I have concentrated on.
I am having a bit of trouble with my "System Data" file being abnormally large. At first I thought that it meant that I had low space, so I went moved all my pictures, music, etc on my external SD card.
No luck with that. The next thing that I thought was that it could have been my backups from rooting my device, since I have been searching for the solution to this problem for a rather long time now, I have found out that CWM backups can take up quite a bit of space, but I had all my backups on my external SD card, so that ruled out another possible cause.
Also, I have read on another thread that Google Contacts Sync could take up a lot of space...
After getting slightly discouraged, I resulted to going back to the internet and looking for other possible causes. I read that somehow Google backs up your photos that you take on your device, so I wondered if the backed up photos could have somehow snuck into that "System Data" file. I searched for a while, and finally gave up.
So, the question is, what is taking up all this space, and how do I get rid of it??? Thanks in advance.
Here is a screenshot of my storage followed by DiskUsage:
Try getting SD Maid from google play. It does much more than manage sd. On a rooted phone, it will let you clean stray corpses, temp files, app data, logs, etc. I recommend that you get the pro license key. Invaluable tool. You can also find developers app thread here on xda.
When I first used it on a cm10.0 rom last year, it freed up about 300 MB.
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SDMaid thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063
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Thanks laughingT, I cleaned all I could, and it freed up about .6Gib...there is still something taking up 9.51Gib of space!! Anything else?
When you run the largest files tab i sdmaid, what does it show you?
Can you look at /data/media folder with xplore or another root file manager? Have you got some clockworkmod nandroid backup?
Lastly, open terminal emulator, enter su, snd enter, then enter df, enter. it should show you all mounts and used space in each.
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Check you estrongs file on your favorite file manager, there is where you trash goes, it's just a recycle bin that to empty, I the issue a while ago and it figured out, let me know if that fixed the issue
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Hey guys. I'm very familiar with android and it's processes but I have stumbled onto something that I cannot solve... My Internal SD Card has somehow made it self write-protected.... even to my PC! I can't save anything to my internal SD card at all. All camera apps, with the exception of the stock samsung camera set to ext-sd store mode works. If the other camera apps don't have that option, I can't use it. I can't download anything from the web (it will automatically say download unsuccessful and even ODIN can't touch it (I tried to ODIN back to stock NK3... and it partially worked... except that I still have all my downloaded apps installed)
Here's what happened.
The problem started when I was on DomPop v0.1.3 (5.0.2) It started with me not being able to take a screenshot, which I fixed.
Then I flashed PAC-Man RLS 3 (12312014) and that's when I noticed that I can't save any downloads to my internal SD card.
So I recovered to my saved rooted stock NB1... Still no avail and this is where I found out that my 3rd party cameras don't save anymore.
I've done everything from flashng a new ROM, flashing a new recovery, ODINing back to stock... nothing seems to work! And I'm slowly starting to lose space on my ext-sd soo any help would be appreciated by this chic. Thanks in Advance
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As of the time I wrote this, I have ODINed 3x now... still, every time I reboot, I still have my downloaded apps... it's as if my /data partition is write protected from ODIN too!
This happened to my SM-N900T when I installed a custom Recovery which contained the wrong '/sepolicy_version' for my device. The Recovery developer fixed the file but I had to format '/data' after installing it to get files with the correct policy.
Frank
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In your root directory, '/se_policy' should look like this, but notice that this is Android 4.3:
VE=SEPF_SM-N900T_4.3_0002
HS=7708d6f9dfc68813c4dddb915812c67b
HA=7136aebc8fc8205ec9adde19ca84e501
HP=0ef457e4c9cbf00b9100f4872e3f7d50
HF=852e176fdcb7a45fc1617bd4e93c2bf9
HM=7bd39dbe5813e94be374bee74d87bf0c
If it shows the wrong device then you can probably fix it by flashing the correct TWRP. And you will probably have to format '/data'.
Frank
Frank Westlake said:
This happened to my SM-N900T when I installed a custom Recovery which contained the wrong '/sepolicy_version' for my device. The Recovery developer fixed the file but I had to format '/data' after installing it to get files with the correct policy.
Frank
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In your root directory, '/se_policy' should look like this, but notice that this is Android 4.3:
VE=SEPF_SM-N900T_4.3_0002
HS=7708d6f9dfc68813c4dddb915812c67b
HA=7136aebc8fc8205ec9adde19ca84e501
HP=0ef457e4c9cbf00b9100f4872e3f7d50
HF=852e176fdcb7a45fc1617bd4e93c2bf9
HM=7bd39dbe5813e94be374bee74d87bf0c
If it shows the wrong device then you can probably fix it by flashing the correct TWRP. And you will probably have to format '/data'.
Frank
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Huh... I now I remember... I was on TWRP when the problems started... I'm on Philz now and I still have it. Would this fix the write protected internal SD card issue too?
Try this ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684384
meoshe said:
Try this ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684384
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That looks like the same problem and a much simpler solution, but make sure you have a good policy file first.
Frank
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Up above I use two filenames, '/sepolicy_version' is the correct name of the file. In my case TWRP had the wrong '/sepolicy_version' until the developer fixed it. I still recommend installing the most recent TWRP to get all the right files -- make sure it's the right version (4.3 or 4.4) -- then run restorecon. Then after the fix, return to Philz if you want.
Frank
Did your phone die @deBricker or did this solve the problem? Other people might be waiting with the same problem.
Frank
No. Had to go in recovery and wipe my internal memory (lost everything since I was stupid enough not to make an updated backup... my last one was a month ago) after that, it's been smooth sailing.
I didn't even see that post until today.