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[Q] Just un-rooted my EVO to apply 3.29 update... WHY ROOT NOW?

I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Just rooted again with unrEVOked 3.22 on Ubuntu 10.10.
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generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.

I'm somewhat of a noob and just made the switch.
WiFi tether
Remove some sprint apps
Custom boot animations
Like the above said, custom roms show a performance increase
Love the Quick Boot app
There are a bunch of threads around with more root apps you will most likely like.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

General, the benefit is freedom. if you waited a litttle bit you would already be able to flash the exact same rom rooted which is readily available. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
Good luck though.

Also, rooting takes like 2 seconds now that unrEVOked Forever is out.

A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?

generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Not everyone roots their phone - just the people here So, if you feel no need to root your phone, then don't.
I'm not a power user or speed freak so uncapping the fps isn't a big issue for me. I originally rooted my phone so I could use wireless tether. I'm staying rooted because I can play around with my phone a little more - change the boot animation (and turn off the sound), remove the Sprint apps that I don't use but that turn off automatically, and back up my apps and data and monitor my battery usage.
The custom roms are a quick way for me to accomplish my needs. I don't really like the Sense UI (which surprised me because I always though it was great-looking), so the roms give alternative ways to set up my phone.

Help with OTA
Hey guys. Okay I saw there is a update on xda. I'm using unrevoked3. Do I need to delete Unrevoked or just download the zip file that was released. I'm talking about about the deodexed and rooted.Im still lost on how where to put the updated file at? Please if anyone is in my boat and have had good results please tell me,im a noob,beginner,novice.
There is got to be someone who can explain in plain english lol..
Thanks everyone

Yes, I do feel crappy about it... I wish I was still rooted. I know the rooted update was available, but just thought that the OG update would run a bit better..?.. I guess I wanted to unroot to learn how among other things too. Believe it or not, doing that taught me a lot about hboot and recovery. At least I know I can always root again.
And YES, I HATE SENSE!!! But, I was reading on Cyanogen that CM6 had problems with the 4g and had a few bugs. But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...

TheBiles said:
Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.
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Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.

generalExpert said:
Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.
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Most of the custom ROMs are very stable and have better battery life than the stock ROM. As long as you make a nandroid backup there is ZERO risk to flashing a new ROM (assuming you don't like pull the battery out while flashing or something), so you can try one out for a few hours, and if you don't like it you can instantly go back to what you had before. Simple as pie. Give the major ones a whirl and see what you like. I know that there are some HTC ROMs themed to look like CM6 that have working 4G.

I also avoid cm6 because of the lack of 4g. Instead I use Vaelpak because it has minimal sense but enough so I can have my 4g. I'm thinking of trying Virus' mostly senseless rom.
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generalExpert said:
But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...
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When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.

mizzos4 said:
When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.
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Yes, by Vanilla Android i'm talkin Nexus One. Those themes look pretty good though. I'm already jonsen for root again and it's only been a half day.
Launcher Pro? Doesn't that just overlay Sense and therefore cause a bit of a slow down, use more memory, and possibly more battery. (probably not noticeable though..)
Yes, Clockwork and Amon_Ra require root. I was just wondering if there was a recovery in NON-ROOTED. When I'm in a non-rooted EVO at hboot, and select Recovery I get that red Exclamation mark over the phone and have to pull the battery.
Thanks for all your help!

Whoa thr new kernel allows up to 53 fps but std is 8+... on netarchys' kernel it was about 54 - 56 with a std of 4... at least that is how it behaves on mine.
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halorin said:
A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?
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there may be security drawbacks to those that are not cautious with the apps they install.
generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my <EvO>.
I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways.
I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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- why feel bad?
- if the next statement is true, then the FPS cap must not have been an issue; else you would have done a google search on the issue and corrected it.
- if this statement is true, why feel bad?
- i dont find the need for so many custom ROMs (not like back when i was running on WinMo6). once you have 'root', adding/removing apps is straightforward and most of the ROMs are just a "here is my theme and apps, it's built on someone else who did the low level tweaking". custom ROM just makes it easier to get closer to what YOU want for an applist and themelayout. i like cm6 and dont' like theme's so life is easy for me.
- CM6 is AOSP. this means they will not use propriarty code (like Sense). for the EVO it also means the 4G radio software has to be written from scratch since there is no opensource 4G stuff to use yet. if you pick a Sense based rom (ie: anythign that doesn't refer to itself as CM6 or AOSP based).
Note: AOSP Like means that it is a Sense based ROM but it's been made to look/act similar to the CM6 or AOSP ROMs. 4G and Radio and such should work normally.
enjoy the free time associated with being Root-less.

Well, I'm re-rooted. Used the unrEVOked method. It was just so easy, there was no reason not to. Really want to get on cyanogen but waiting for the 4g.
sent from my bad-ass EVO!

My S2 is slower than my Sister's S2???

Hey Guys recently i got the S2 white on Tmobile for free and it came with the 4.0.4 ICS Firmware and ive notice that my phone is kind of slow comparing it to my sister's S2 wich is black and its on the 2.3.6 Firmware. I dont know if its the phone with a problem or if its the 4.0.4 firmware causing that my phone is slower than hers. Anyone that can tell me something about this??? Another thing is that she got her S2 when they first came out on Tmobile and i got mine just a couple a days ago, so for me it doesnt make any sense that my phone is slower and laggs a lot.

You sure you don't have anything running in the background, or is it just laggy without anything installed on it? Might be because of some background apps that you do not know of

Koragg618 said:
You sure you don't have anything running in the background, or is it just laggy without anything installed on it? Might be because of some background apps that you do not know of
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I dont think is that because i only have a few apps and im always doing the task mannager clean up, so i did a couple of tests with both like entering to the contacts,phone,txt,apps,browser etc and my phone was always a little slower than hers in every area. And when im scrolling the app list my phone is slower and laggy and hers fast and smooth. So i dont know im thinking about doing a downgrade to 2.3.6 since i dont see a great difference on the OS, to see if my phone works better that way, im waiting for the jelly bean update so i can enjoy my phone more. I dont know what do you think i should do?

daworship said:
I dont think is that because i only have a few apps and im always doing the task mannager clean up, so i did a couple of tests with both like entering to the contacts,phone,txt,apps,browser etc and my phone was always a little slower than hers in every area. And when im scrolling the app list my phone is slower and laggy and hers fast and smooth. So i dont know im thinking about doing a downgrade to 2.3.6 since i dont see a great difference on the OS, to see if my phone works better that way, im waiting for the jelly bean update so i can enjoy my phone more. I dont know what do you think i should do?
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well if ur gonna downgrade try a custom ROM first. That's guaranteed to solve our issues :good:

icenight89 said:
well if ur gonna downgrade try a custom ROM first. That's guaranteed to solve our issues :good:
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ok thanks i will do that.

daworship said:
I dont think is that because i only have a few apps and im always doing the task mannager clean up, so i did a couple of tests with both like entering to the contacts,phone,txt,apps,browser etc and my phone was always a little slower than hers in every area. And when im scrolling the app list my phone is slower and laggy and hers fast and smooth. So i dont know im thinking about doing a downgrade to 2.3.6 since i dont see a great difference on the OS, to see if my phone works better that way, im waiting for the jelly bean update so i can enjoy my phone more. I dont know what do you think i should do?
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I agree with icenight89 - why downgrade when you can use a custom ROM/kernel with more control over the performance of your phone? Many kernels have loads of governors to choose from that optimize what stock ROMs use, depending on if you're going for more performance or for more battery life (or some combination of the two). The KKO kernel has a lot of governors, or you can check out this new one based off KKO (keep in mind it's only for JB roms): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111871

Generall, Task Killers aren't really that effective and invite FC's. You best bet is to root, remove bloat, and try some tweaks. Otherwise, like me, resort to Custom ROMs/Kernels. Take a peek at the Android Development Section and be prepared to be amazed at the plethora of choices you will encounter. While some focus on performance, others focus on better battery. It's all about trying out what's there and choose one of your liking. Good Luck. Let me know if you would like some recommendations.

Slow down and lock ups

Hi, I'm still fairly new to flashing, but I have Jedi Mind Trick V8 and been running it for a little while now. I am having trouble with freezing, slowness and some lock ups. Also, in playing some games, they tend to skip and jump a lot, as if a hard dive were being thrashed on a PC. I don't have enough posts to ask in the Jedi Mind Trick forums, but I'm getting really frustrated. Is this an app thing possibly? Or is it just an android thing? Is another ROM better, like CM10 maybe?
Am I expecting to much to expect screens to just snap? I know these phones don't have a lot of memory so maybe that's it? Any help or direction would be much appreciated.

what are your kernel settings ? also have you installed any other mods with V8(xposed) Great program/app but can cause your system to lag a slight bit if you set it at performance it will help just not take it away ... or did you just flash the ROM and restore your apps ?

krazierokz said:
what are your kernel settings ? also have you installed any other mods with V8(xposed) Great program/app but can cause your system to lag a slight bit if you set it at performance it will help just not take it away ... or did you just flash the ROM and restore your apps ?
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I was on JMT V6 and flashed V8 and restored apps+data from Titanium.

[Q] The most RAM saving ROM

Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards

Thaenor said:
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
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try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied

Ahmed.ragab said:
try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
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Thank you, I'll give it a try on the stable version.
For future reference, and to save the trouble for other people who may come here and need to search the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120340
Thank you very much.
PS: in the mean time I'm open to more suggestions, just in case.

U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952

mirosz said:
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
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The rom crashes the settings applet everytime I try to change language to Portuguese.
Can't add widgets with aviate launcher (settings crashes)
otherwise seems alright.

Ok to upgrade OS on 3G galaxy tab 3 7.0 model?

Hi.
Sorry for the double post. Didn't get a response in other thread.
I have a galaxy tab 3 7 inch with 4.1.2. Is it a good idea to upgrade the OS? I'm worried it may affect performance negatively. I know that 4.3 included trim support which should improve performance but thought I'd check here.
Thanks in advance.

Which model is yours? t211, t210, t111, t110, etc...
Though it wont decrease performance anyways.

sscsps said:
Which model is yours? t211, t210, t111, t110, etc...
Though it wont decrease performance anyways.
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Thanks for replying. T211.

OMG!
the_new_mr said:
Thanks for replying. T211.
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And you are still using 4.1.2!!
upgrade to 4.4.2 and you can install Nolekat v1.1 over it, then install warewolf kernel v008, and then install gapps(whichever you like).
Then debloat it with any way you like.
works MUCH MUCH better then 4.1.2.
PM me if you wish some more explanation.

I'd like to stick with official roms if possible. I heard that it caused stability problems for someone with apps crashing frequently so trying to get some more info on what other people think.

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I'd like to stick with official roms if possible. I heard that it caused stability problems for someone with apps crashing frequently so trying to get some more info on what other people think.
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other people think its the best action to upgrade. its your choice if you wish to stay on 4.1.2 or upgrade to 4.4.2 and install some tweaks to improve performance. if you ask my opinion, I would recommend to install the nolekat1.1 and warewolf kernel and then debloat.
and if you still wish to stay on stock, thats fine enough, at least debloat the stock rom for faster performance.
personal experience, i could not use the stock system with whatsapp, hangouts and a few more apps installed and using those almost daily, as it would be so slow to open any app.
And now, i can certainly use my device. My battery drains like 20%(still have 80%) in the whole day with like 1 hour of talk time and 1 hour of general internet usage.
And for the apps crashing problem, i am not sure who told you that, but i have not experienced any app crash that SHOULD not happen.

Okay. Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.