Hey everyone, I have been here a while but I dont have my ten posts to post in the dev section :/ so I am posting my question here! I am on the Toro+ Gnex running Atom 422 I believe, but my question isnt specific to that ROM. In many ROMs my lock screen music widget would freeze up and stop playing and when I turned the phone on it looked like the music widget was overlaping the camera widget ( lockscreen widgets) and then disapear. I have tried using Apollo, Zplayer, and Play Music. I uninstalled all but one to test individually and I got the same results. I don't have this issue with ROMs that have the option to disable the camera lockscreen widget and I was wondering if this is a known problem with the camera or what. I am using a custom lockscreen shortcut for the camera right now so it is not a big deal I was just curious If anyone else has had this problem. This persists through dirty, clean flashes of new ROMs and kernels except for ROMs that can disable the camera lockscreen widget. thanks for the feedback!
First and foremost the Dev section is reserved for developers who wish to introduce their ROMS and kernels, not for questions such as this. So in a way, thank you for not posting here even though it was your intention to do so
As far as the lock screen...are you using stock launcher or a third party launcher such as apex or nova? Lock screen apps are just that, app that overlay the original lock screen. What I mean is that the culprit is probably your launcher. I use PA 3.94 and have no issues. Admittedly though, my lock screen security is disabled so I can use Locket. Locket has no widgets so that may be a option for you. I do kiss the music widget however, but I just unlock the screen to access the controls and in doing so I get paid for doing so.
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iLeopard said:
First and foremost the Dev section is reserved for developers who wish to introduce their ROMS and kernels, not for questions such as this. So in a way, thank you for not posting there even though it was your intention to do so
As far as the lock screen...are you using stock launcher or a third party launcher such as apex or nova? Lock screen apps are just that, app that overlay the original lock screen. What I mean is that the culprit is probably your launcher. I use PA 3.94 and have no issues. Admittedly though, my lock screen security is disabled so I can use Locket. Locket has no widgets so that may be a option for you. I do kiss the music widget however, but I just unlock the screen to access the controls and in doing so I get paid for doing so.
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Hmm, interesting I didnt think to change the launcher I was on Atom launcher at the time and now I am just using the launcher included in the Atom-422 Rom. After work I will re-install Atom launcher and see if I can replicate the issue. So, the lockscreen widgets are extensions of the launcher? I guess I don't understand how the launcher would cause that issue, something I am going to have to look up I guess ha Yeah I thought about removing the lockscreen but the shortcuts are just too convinient and Dash clock is awesome too. How is Locket working for you? I havent tried it but I imagined it to be laggy just because I associate Ads with lag.
P.S. I wasn't going to start a tread in the dev section, I was just going to post in the ROM thread asking if anyone else had the same issue ;]
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Hmm, interesting I didnt think to change the launcher I was on Atom launcher at the time and now I am just using the launcher included in the Atom-422 Rom. After work I will re-install Atom launcher and see if I can replicate the issue. So, the lockscreen widgets are extensions of the launcher? I guess I don't understand how the launcher would cause that issue, something I am going to have to look up I guess ha Yeah I thought about removing the lockscreen but the shortcuts are just too convinient and Dash clock is awesome too. How is Locket working for you? I havent tried it but I imagined it to be laggy just because I associate Ads with lag.
P.S. I wasn't going to start a tread in the dev section, I was just going to post in the ROM thread asking if anyone else had the same issue ;]
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I haven't used Atom launcher so I can't say for sure. Since you've used stock and the Atom launcher I guess you can try a third party one such as Apex or Nova and see if the issue persists. Its weird how its happening to you though, I've never heard of such bug. To my understanding, lockscreen and the associated widgets are part of the launcher, hence the reason why not all launchers support widgets. I understand your desire to keep your widgets, they do come in handy but personally I usually don't find myself wishing I had more than the standard clock since I instinctively unlock my phone anyways.
I thought the same as you with regards to Locket, but I must admit that the ads are incredibly lightweight and well designed. Most of the time I don't see them as ads but a dynamic wallpaper add-on since the ads cycle every time you turn on your display. Give it a shot, you can access the notification bar even with Locket installed, which houses playback controls as well. Link is in my siggy
iLeopard said:
I haven't used Atom launcher so I can't say for sure. Since you've used stock and the Atom launcher I guess you can try a third party one such as Apex or Nova and see if the issue persists. Its weird how its happening to you though, I've never heard of such bug. To my understanding, lockscreen and the associated widgets are part of the launcher, hence the reason why not all launchers support widgets. I understand your desire to keep your widgets, they do come in handy but personally I usually don't find myself wishing I had more than the standard clock since I instinctively unlock my phone anyways.
I thought the same as you with regards to Locket, but I must admit that the ads are incredibly lightweight and well designed. Most of the time I don't see them as ads but a dynamic wallpaper add-on since the ads cycle every time you turn on your display. Give it a shot, you can access the notification bar even with Locket installed, which houses playback controls as well. Link is in my siggy
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cool, thanks man I'll check it out
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I ran a few searches and while there are some topics on other sub-forums just thought I'd ask here. Is there a general aversion to using this app?
I've used it on all the ROM's I've flashed and have found that it is more efficient than a stock launcher. It most often runs smoother as well especially the app drawer.
I know there are many who use it here, but overall rosie's get the win on XDA hance all the rosie/Sense mods.
Is it because it is not an open source launcher? Is it the aesthetics? Is there such a thing as "Android Purists"?
What say you!
I love it but won't use it because i love my sense widgets too much and it acts funny.with widget locker
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Been using it since almost Day 1. I change backgrounds and clocks fairly often. Wouldn't use anything else.
You lose all the sense widgets. And in the new sense roms which have been ported to the inc, there are great new ones - so on the new sense roms I can't afford to use launcher unless they have equivalent widgets.
I use launcher pro on cm6.1 which is an aosp rom. There it is the better option because I don't have any possibility of getting the sense widgets anyways...
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Thanks for the replies so far! I use one widget (smooth calender) and forgot about all the sense widgets folks like to use.
I use launcher pro as well. I think its a great home replacement. Gives great options in settings to change almost everything. I currently just have it set to give me 3 home screens and that is it. I don't need any more than that currently.
I replaced the Sense widgets with beautiful widgets and extended controls. I also love launcher pro's ability to make custom shortcuts that can take you directly a page in the setting menus that may be 2 to 3 pages in. Saves a lot of time as I currently have one set directly to the development page. Have to turn that thing on to use PDAnet.(The 3g hotspot just doesn't work for me very well as it drops my laptop every 10 minutes and then it cannot join it again till I restart the hotspot on the phone.)
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I never really liked senses giant phone button at the bottom of the screen all the time. With launcher Pro I can make the dock look like stock android. Once I made the switch I never went back
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I use launcher pro as well. I think its a great home replacement. Gives great options in settings to change almost everything. I currently just have it set to give me 3 home screens and that is it. I don't need any more than that currently.
I replaced the Sense widgets with beautiful widgets and extended controls. I also love launcher pro's ability to make custom shortcuts that can take you directly a page in the setting menus that may be 2 to 3 pages in. Saves a lot of time as I currently have one set directly to the development page. Have to turn that thing on to use PDAnet.(The 3g hotspot just doesn't work for me very well as it drops my laptop every 10 minutes and then it cannot join it again till I restart the hotspot on the phone.)
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I never really liked senses giant phone button at the bottom of the screen all the time. With launcher Pro I can make the dock look like stock android. Once I made the switch I never went back
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Launcher Pro is great, and Launcher Pro Plus is worth every bit of $2.99. It's one of the only apps I've paid for and it has all of the sense widgets; including multiple bookmark and calendar widgets for example. In addition, having the ability to resize any widget to your liking I find makes it that much more attractive. Like you also said the shortcut option basically eliminates the need for apps like Bettercut. And of course the obvious options to change docks and icons make it a fun alternative for people.
Good stuff I've always like LP as well and got the + version as soon as it went live. A lot of proponents so far!
I think i remember seeing something that the dev of Launcher Pro asked that it not be cooked into custom roms
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I think i remember seeing something that the dev of Launcher Pro asked that it not be cooked into custom roms
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If the stock launcher isn't used, they cook ADW or launcher 2 into ROMs. But you always have the option of installing LP and even removing the launcher you had previously
Just a question I'v been wondering. My friends on the Droid x2 with (gag) motoblur and I advised using The launchers like ADW. But doesnt that just run OVER motoblur and slow the system down? I guess I'd just like to be pointed in the direction of how this works so I can explain it to him and understand it myself. Thanks all!
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Just a question I'v been wondering. My friends on the Droid x2 with (gag) motoblur and I advised using The launchers like ADW. But doesnt that just run OVER motoblur and slow the system down? I guess I'd just like to be pointed in the direction of how this works so I can explain it to him and understand it myself. Thanks all!
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Launchers just replace your home screen and you can customize animations, transitions and their speed, bounce etc. effects. I use ADW EX In my Rooted with Liberty ROM Droid 2 and never slow or crash my phone. is pretty cool if you want to customize your phone and make it unique theres a lot options and cool stuff
Hope this help and give you an Idea I know is not the best answer but I try to help
Launchers do not run over, but certain aspects of motoblur will still be there (pull down menu, maybe app drawer)
The home screen area will basically kick out motoblur if you use a different launcher, and if you kill *that* launcher then it will start up the motoblur launcher.
it just replaces your homescreen and app drawer
you will lose the ability to use some motorola widgets though.
i tend to swap homescreens alot, (i just like the nexus deck, yet can't seem to find a non-AOSP rom with that deck)
Another question which has been bugging me....do launchers take more battery to run? I mean,when you use a launcher,youre using 2 separate homescreens. So am I wrong in this thinking or correct?
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Another question which has been bugging me....do launchers take more battery to run? I mean,when you use a launcher,youre using 2 separate homescreens. So am I wrong in this thinking or correct?
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No, not necessarily. The other one falls out of memory and usage. Unless you're bouncing back and forth between the two, there's no problem
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
Thanks for the info on this. I had been wondering the same thing. I've always used Sense Roms, but was thinking about switching to ADW EX Launcher myself.
Seriously, I did not like it on my WinMo5 phone. I still don't like it on my 1X.
cons found so far:
- Launcher crashes when you add a widget too wide for the current screen
- Launcher eats so much memory it crashes randomly (or at least, pressing home gives you a loading spinner for a short while)
- Contacts app looks ancient, froyo style.
- CLOOOOCKS ! Why do they need a dozen clocks, each eating storage for nothing.
- IME is weird. Used smartkeyboard pro before finding the basic ICS one perfect.
- No power toggles in the drawer
- No widgets in the drawer.
- Lock screen seems twitchy, phone tried to call from my pocket this morning.
- Most of the app skins are really ugly compared to ICS' ones (settings, contacts..)
Don't get me wrong, the phone is a real beast. Even with sense obviously cluttering the performance, it's a real breeze, it's really fast as hell. Once we get a clean ICS build, I can only imagine how faster it'll get.
First real user review of Sense 4.0, thanks. I'd have to agree with you on some of these, esp the Contacts/Dialer looks like it hasn't changed at all.
only thing I like about sense is the lockscreen (weather skin is amazing!) and answerscreen
settings menu is also nice now
I hate the launcher.. always changed it, I mean it only looks good with the htc clock but then you only get 2 rows for apps on the homescreen..meh
so yea I wonder why so many people praize sense and it feels odd that htc was the only one who could make a animated lockscreen..
Please tell me what is the point of an animated lockscreen? I really don't like knowing my phone is using juice to show me some nice floating clouds.
Is it even possible for a capacitive touch screen phone to pocket dial unless you've got your hand in there with it?
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eyecandy mostly I always like seeing that animation, it also gives it a high tech feeling like it's suposed to be
a wow factor for people who grab your phone as well
some care about it.. some don't , I do.
I cannot imagine what you are doing with your phone thats causing so much crashes ... i would suggest looking at your apps and stuff first ...
Of course, most apps are not yet ICS optimized and causes memory issues and what not ... so not necessary that its HTC Sense's fault !!
Crashes are frequent and Sense starts pretty fast, but it's definitely not my apps. Crashed a few time without installing a single thing. Anyway, stable or not, ICS base launcher is way better, IMHO.
I like the new lock screen showing your unread messages but I dont like the email app. The font size is too big even when set to small.
I have a Sensation and there was a smallest setting that worked really well. Its like they made the fonts too large over compensating for the higher resolution of the screen.
I had my One X for 4 days now and I have to say I can't wait to get a rom without Sense. I hope for CM9 since I am coming from a Galaxy S with CM9.
The Lockscreen that launches 4 Apps is the only good thing about sense.
I actually love the look and feel of Sense 4.0, can't agree with you.
ICS builds I tested had ring lockscreen with up to 8 shortcuts.
EDIT: ok, now everytime I hit the "home" button, sense reloads -_-'
I might be wrong but didn't Google say that every phone using ICS should provide an option to the user to use stock launcher..am sure read on some tech blog....I dont have the phone, but if thats the case then in theory u should be able to clear the default setting for sense launcher in settings/apps menu and hopefully then get a prompt to select launcher
either way...do let me know , if this works
Edit :- or else there's always Go Launcher (with ICS theme done by the GOLauncher Team)
Cheers,
M
meletios said:
I might be wrong but didn't Google say that every phone using ICS should provide an option to the user to use stock launcher..am sure read on some tech blog....I dont have the phone, but if thats the case then in theory u should be able to clear the default setting for sense launcher in settings/apps menu and hopefully then get a prompt to select launcher
either way...do let me know , if this works
Cheers,
M
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You wish... You have to use sense AND sense keyboard.
I restored from titanium a MeDroidMod Launcher (looks very ICS-ish to me, don't know what has been modded here) backup from my old N1 sd, and it works. Status bar still sensucks, but at least I have a stable and simple ICS launcher without all the candies. According to the app/running/cached memory usage value, the launcher eats 22Mo where Sense ate 55...
meletios said:
I might be wrong but didn't Google say that every phone using ICS should provide an option to the user to use stock launcher..am sure read on some tech blog....I dont have the phone, but if thats the case then in theory u should be able to clear the default setting for sense launcher in settings/apps menu and hopefully then get a prompt to select launcher
either way...do let me know , if this works
Edit :- or else there's always Go Launcher (with ICS theme done by the GOLauncher Team)
Cheers,
M
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I remember the statement but if it's only to include the launcher then it's pointless
even on stock ics everyone gets nova or apex launcher lol, think they'll have to use the default android skin as well
btw. it only has sense launcher now
As useless Rosie was, it was at least pretty.. sense 4.0 looks like pre ICS stock android, and doesnt seem to be much less bloated.
Thankz god we have XDA, just a pity ure buying a phone knowing you wont be able to fully enjoy as stock.
You are using apex or nova, maybe. But surely not everybody. All the people around me like the stock ics. Why bloat the OS ? For a colored battery bar ?
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ok Sense 4.0 looks great, BUT what happened to the wonderful rotating carousel? Now Sense rotates three screens to the right, then you have to come all the way back to get to screens to the left of the home screen. Surely it would have been easier to let Sense rotate through all the screens, making selection far faster?
I'd like it (the widgets are AWESOME) IF it
- didn't crash all the time
- had 5 rows as an option!!!!!!!
running nova now due to the crashing. Unbelievable how unoptimised it is
If I could have 6 rows instead of 4 I'd use sense launcher instead of nova, i mean we have a 4,7" 720 screen and it's just a big waste of space to have 4x4 grid, and I really don't like the cube style flipping, I feel a bit old for that. I even disable wallpaper scroll. I want it clean and smooth.
I would post this in the ROM thread but since this is my first post I can't, but I'm using the LiquidSmooth 4.0.4 Rom and was wondering if there was any way to keep the stock look without changing anything but add more pages to my home screens.
Thanks,
Matt
download "nova launcher or apex launcher"
So installing those launchers won't affect the way my home screens look or make my phone look less "stock"? I like how clean the ROM I currently have looks and want to keep everything the same more or less, just add more pages.
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So installing those launchers won't affect the way my home screens look or make my phone look less "stock"? I like how clean the ROM I currently have looks and want to keep everything the same more or less, just add more pages.
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Both Nova and Apex are based off the stock launcher, and so don't change the look/feel of your phone greatly, but also both have plenty of customisation options so that you can make your home screen march to the beat of your tune.
I've got Nova Prime with one homescreen, dock turned off, additional page in the app drawer for most used apps (as well as hiding apps that I don't use), and have swipe gestures to open the drawer/access other features.
Apex and Nova have free versions in the Play Store that you can try, and if you don't like them, just un-install. The beauty of Android.
P.S. Some of the customisations I've made are only available in the paid version of Nova.
Nova launcher is just the stock launcher with enhancements, one being the ability to add more home screens. Highly recommended.
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hi i'm marley, i know that this is the wrong thread but, i couldn't find any solution to my "problem", well i just did a pre-order on the nexus 7 because i'm switching from my iPhone, and unlikely iOS we don't have the home page, just the menu instead, and all i wanted to know is if it's possible to disable all the pages in the jelly bean, leaving the home screen alone, by that i mean disable like from the code, so nobody can turn them on again.
I'm thinking about getting the Note 2 but have one quick question, if you installed a 3rd party Launcher, how much of the special S Pen functionality are you losing? I'm assuming some of the stuff such as video previews, gallery previews and calendar event previews that I've seen in many reviews are a function of the app rather than the Launcher. The only thing I can see missing would be going to that special S Pen homepage when you remove it but I wanted to verify that. I don't know of any other really cool S Pen features other than what I've seen in reviews (every store I've gone to hasn't had it in stock so I haven't played with it yet).
Yep. So far from what I can tell you only lose the special S Pen homescreen since that's part of the touchwiz launcher. Everything else is still there and still works.
This is my experience, too.
Note that there are four Page Buddy pages - S-Pen, Earphones, Docking and Roaming.
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Yep. So far from what I can tell you only lose the special S Pen homescreen since that's part of the touchwiz launcher. Everything else is still there and still works.
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Right, I forgot about those other pages.
I also just remembered that you also lose the recommended shortcuts in the notification pulldown also.
Which is odd since that should be part of the system not the launcher.
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Right, I forgot about those other pages.
I also just remembered that you also lose the recommended shortcuts in the notification pulldown also.
Which is odd since that should be part of the system not the launcher.
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Yea, no functionality is lost other than the instant S-Pen page thats part of the touchwiz launcher. Battery life also has improved for me by about an hour reliably since removing touchwiz as my default launcher and using Nova Prime. I'd say its win/win since those silly widgets can be added to any launcher page if you really want them.