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Yesterday I've been navigating again with Navigon on my SGS2, but unfortunately it slowly drains my battery. When using google maps it dous charge the phone. So apperently Navigon is using a lot more 'juice' compared to Google map navigation.
Do you people know a charger (I assume one of 2A, while my own charger is an 1A charger) which does charge the phone with bluetooth, gps and Navigon running?
I bough a 2.1A car charger from belkin and I still have battery drain.
Even with the phone detecting it correctly as AC CHARGEr.
Hmmm that's to bad
Ordered a 2A charger from ebay myself.... But I doubt it will work, especially after reading your message.
I think the phone only takes a maximum of Amps for charging, even though it uses more. Resulting in a slow battery drain.
Note that it will stopped charging if the battery gets too hot to avoid damage or possibly exploding the battery.
Obviously having a higher rated charger will heat the battery more, so make sure the phone has its back ventilated, and try avoiding direct sunlight.
Read of several people that had this issue, but got their phones charging when avoiding overheating it.
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Try the Rockfish premium charger. It's 2A and looks nice.
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has anyone had any luck with the motorola charger? I bought one for my nexus one + car dock and it always worked fine... have yet to have a chance to use it for my SGS2 though..
Mixy said:
Note that it will stopped charging if the battery gets too hot to avoid damage or possibly exploding the battery.
Obviously having a higher rated charger will heat the battery more, so make sure the phone has its back ventilated, and try avoiding direct sunlight.
Read of several people that had this issue, but got their phones charging when avoiding overheating it.
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But that's a bit strange, because a charger should deliver what a phone is asking for. As far as I know, a charger doesn't push the charge to the phone. But we will see, if the phone does get overheated, then that will be the end of the charger.
malimal said:
Try the Rockfish premium charger. It's 2A and looks nice.
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Do you have a link where it can be found?
mynameisjon said:
has anyone had any luck with the motorola charger? I bought one for my nexus one + car dock and it always worked fine... have yet to have a chance to use it for my SGS2 though..
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Which motorola charger?
Bart1981 said:
But that's a bit strange, because a charger should deliver what a phone is asking for. As far as I know, a charger doesn't push the charge to the phone. But we will see, if the phone does get overheated, then that will be the end of the charger.
Do you have a link where it can be found?
Which motorola charger?
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You're mistaken.
The thing that you plug into your car, that's called a power supply.
The real charger is built into the phone. That's the charging circuit that will shut down the charger, stop drawing power from the power supply when the phone gets too hot.
I doubt the phone will be able to take 2A, and the circuits will prevent the phone from drawing 2A of current.
#1. So, what you're looking for is actually a power supply that provides suficient current. Most car chargers will be about the same.
The power supply is connected to your phone via cables. Badly made cables will not be able to supply more than 200mah, and as a result you're going to take a really long time to charge your phone, and with a high drain application going on, you're not going to be able to charge your phone.
I had that exact same problem previously, and it was because of a lousy batch of oem cable I bought from ebay. Original, and other brands of oem cables worked fine.
#2. You need to buy some proper cables. I buy from www.monoprice.com, because I like my cables to be gold plated.
Edit: No, I'm not related to monoprice. I just love my gold cables plated heads. Can't find them cheaper anywhere else.
But the quality of the cable is not the only thing. The phone should also see the charger as an AC charger instead of an usb charger. This can be done by connecting the middle pins in the usb cable. Otherwise it will only charge with 500mA.
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i got mine off ebay, but its like this one below
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfish%26%23153%3B+-+Premium+Micro+USB+Vehicle+Charger/1114106.p?id=1218221913668&skuId=1114106&st=Rocketfish%20Car%20Charger%20&cp=2&lp=1
make sure you get model RF-PMC55
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But the quality of the cable is not the only thing. The phone should also see the charger as an AC charger instead of an usb charger. This can be done by connecting the middle pins in the usb cable. Otherwise it will only charge with 500mA.
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Is there a car charger you can buy that does this automatically? (i.e phone thinks it's plugged into AC rather than USB). I'd rather not plug anything i've been messing about with into my beloved SII.
It's not about the charger but about the cable you're using.
I was watching the Mavericks vs Thunder game using the watch ESPN app and my nexus battery was at about 93%
I watch since halftime to the end of the game and I was plugged in to a car charger the whole time and when the game ended about 1 1/2 hrs later the battery had dropped to 53%. Can't understand it. Hope someone here can explain this to me.
Phone is galaxy nexus, obviously, the battery is the 2100 OEM battery from Verizon store, charger is a belkin dual outlet 1amp micro car charger with the cable that came with a Droid charge.
Thanks in advance ladies and gentlemen, I did look and search, didn't fins anything covering this specific issue.
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i am 99% sure its the car charger. but cant give u a reason
rfvreynoso said:
Phone is galaxy nexus, obviously, the battery is the 2100 OEM battery from Verizon store, charger is a belkin dual outlet 1amp micro car charger with the cable that came with a Droid charge.
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5V right? that's not a huge draw at all on your battery, i'm assuming your car was either running or started right up afterwards...you can be certain your phone was getting that full 1A especially if your car was running. if your phone showed charging and your phone will normally charge from your car like that then you shouldve been in good shape. despite what you may think, i actually am trying to present relevant info lol but ummm other than that? i would definitely try a multimeter (.....if you have one.....) cuz that would show you exactly what you're getting in/out. usb pinouts should be somewhere on the internet. other than that, try doing the same thing (except for maybe a shorter time period if preferred) on a wall charger which should be more reliable and compare results. i've had devices that burn power faster than they receive them....but the good ole gnex? im not so sure. (engineer here).
I just recently join big red and coming from sprint with an evo 4g and didnt have this issue with that phone and same charger. I'm definitely going to try it with home charger to see if its the charger.
Extra info, the vehicle was powered on before I plugged in the charger, in case it matters any.
Thanks to all the reply thus far.
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I find that under heavy usage, only the plug in wall charger gives enough juice to keep it increasing... and even that can go flat or decrease if you are really pushing it... also the way the battery stats are displayed can be flaky too... jumps in the level of charge and quick drops... hard to tell how accurate the reading is.
I hear you. That's crazy, basically the phone draws more power that the charger can provide. I would think the charger should be fine since its 1 amp just like the home charger.
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Check in settings - status if it says charging (ac) or charging (usb) when plugged in you car.
If it says charging (usb) the charge amps are limited to 500mA.
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The phone can use more power than a car charger can supply. This is commonly posted all over. Check your car charger, its likely a 0.5 amp. Buy a 1 amp or higher.
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Phone is galaxy nexus, obviously, the battery is the 2100 OEM battery from Verizon store, charger is a belkin dual outlet 1amp micro car charger with the cable that came with a Droid charge.
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Your problem is the charger, 1 amp is the sum of the two outlets, hence you're only giving your phone 500mA max. When charging at that low of a rate, you'll drain the battery when doing anything power intensive on the phone. Your only remedies for this is to get a car charger that's capable of putting out 1 amp or more on a single line. What I personally did was get the Griffin Powerjolt dual charger for $8 on Amazon, opened it up, and soldered the center data pins on each port together.
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Your problem is the charger, 1 amp is the sum of the two outlets, hence you're only giving your phone 500mA max. When charging at that low of a rate, you'll drain the battery when doing anything power intensive on the phone. Your only remedies for this is to get a car charger that's capable of putting out 1 amp or more on a single line. What I personally did was get the Griffin Powerjolt dual charger for $8 on Amazon, opened it up, and soldered the center data pins on each port together.
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I though that the griffin powerjolt dual outlet charger would dish out 1amp on a single port if the 2nd port was not being used. Interesting, I can see your point. Would you happen to have a picture of, or remember which are the two that need to be bridge inside to make it a full 1amp output?
Thanks in advance.
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Herman76 said:
Check in settings - status if it says charging (ac) or charging (usb) when plugged in you car.
If it says charging (usb) the charge amps are limited to 500mA.
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Okay, I tried what you said and I got weird results. I used the awkward griffin powerjolt dual outlet car charger. I tried using two different cables, one was from my girl's Droid charge and when I plugged it in and check the status it said usb charging, then I plugged in a cable that came with a i go green adapter that I had purchased at an airport and the phone said ac charging. Unless the cable that came with the Droid charge can only pass 500mamp, I'm puzzle.
Both were plugged in at same time and also both cables were tried by themselves in each outlet of the griffin charger by themselves.
Interesting huh. I will keep testing and see what gives, last resort I get a more powerful car charger. Will keep you guys posted, thanks to everyone that contributed and pitch in thus far.
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Got an update on this issue. I streamed another 45 mins to 1 hr of ESPN using watch ESPN app and the results are even more interesting. I was using the wall charger that came with the Droid charge and the USB cable that came with the I go green wall adapter that I have purchased at an airport a while back. Here is what happened, when I started streaming the battery was at 94% and I plugged in phone to charger and under settings/about/status it showed AC charging. After 45 mins to 1 hr of streaming the phone was extremely Hot towards the center of the back and below the cam lenses and led light. Also the battery had dropped to 93% and the phone status showed not charging, even though the battery icon on home screen next to clock shows the lightning symbol inside the battery like is charging.
I don't understand what is happening. Grrrrrr. This is using a wall a charger for a droid charge. Now of to trying it with the OEM charger and cable.
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Got an update on this issue. I streamed another 45 mins to 1 hr of ESPN using watch ESPN app and the results are even more interesting. I was using the wall charger that came with the Droid charge and the USB cable that came with the I go green wall adapter that I have purchased at an airport a while back. Here is what happened, when I started streaming the battery was at 94% and I plugged in phone to charger and under settings/about/status it showed AC charging. After 45 mins to 1 hr of streaming the phone was extremely Hot towards the center of the back and below the cam lenses and led light. Also the battery had dropped to 93% and the phone status showed not charging, even though the battery icon on home screen next to clock shows the lightning symbol inside the battery like is charging.
I don't understand what is happening. Grrrrrr. This is using a wall a charger for a droid charge. Now of to trying it with the OEM charger and cable.
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The battery can stop charging if it gets too hot (safety measure).
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Herman76 said:
The battery can stop charging if it gets too hot (safety measure).
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Exactly, in the driver i think the overheat is set to 140F. Also when your charger showed as usb it only gets 509mA and when showing ac it gets the full 1 amp. So just pay attention next time and see if it drains when showing ac.
My car charger is a 1.3 amp and always shows as ac and never drains while charging.
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The battery can stop charging if it gets too hot (safety measure).
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I though about that but then I was wondering, shouldn't the wall charger provide enough power to run everything in there while charging the battery or even without the battery in the phone. Like shouldn't the battery hold the charge that it already has when I started streaming as long as the charger is 1amp?
I would not care if when I stream the phone battery would just hold its charge at what it has at the moment even if it does not charge while streaming. Hopefully that is clear to understand.
To all the fellow galaxy nexus owners out there, maybe you all can test on your phones and see if you get same results as me. Download watch espn and stream the channel for 30 mins, notice what is your battery level before you start streaming, of course plug the phone to a car charger or wall charger and see if battery remains the same, drops charge, or gain charge at the end of 30 mins, or maybe an hour. I am not asking you to watch it for the 30 mins or 1 hour, just let it run and see what happen, if you can of course. only reason why I ask for watch espn is because it is the app that I have been using to stream nba games for the last few days.
Another thing since I am already here with this streaming issue, I have an original SlingBox, the cheapest of the cheapest when they first came out, just coax and that is it. I would like to know if I pay the $29.99 for the app from the market when i switch roms on my galaxy nexus would I lose the app? I have already unlocked and rooted my galaxy nexus and lets say I buy the app and I am running cm9 when I purchase it, if I change to gummy rom or back to a stock rom while still rooted would I have to re-buy the app ?
Thanks in advance for all the input.
Have u tried underclocking cpu with setcpu app?
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King Jeriamas said:
Have u tried underclocking cpu with setcpu app?
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No I haven't try that. I am currently testing out roms like a mad man trying to find the best for my liking. Question for ya, As far as I know that is kernel dependent right? Like the kernel has to support it, if so which kernels do support it and what would be good underclocking settings ?
I get similar results while using navigation and pandora at the same time, the phone uses more juice than the car charger can provide.
Ironically I plugged in the oem charger and oem cable from the galaxy nexus box and open it (didn't really wanyed to do that) and streamed 30 mins of espn on watch espn and battery was at 70% when I started after 30 mins streaming it had actually climb to 78%. Confused yet everyone? What gives?
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Not all that odd. Using my Fascinate charger (0.7 amp) I get noticeably slower charge times than the OEM charger (1 amp). I don't use my phone much while I'm charging so I can't provide any feedback for that.
What is the Droid Charge charger rated at?
I lost my usb charger and bought another one with a output of 2100 Ma. But he is charging only when the tab is off and only 60% of its capacity. Any ideas please
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Hmm, sounds like it doesnt keep up to its promisses. Did you measure it, if it realy puts out 2100 ?
I`d say it doesnt. My guess .....maybe 600-700.
If I ever lose my usb charger, I would simply get another original one from ebay to avoid any charging issue... just my 2 cents
USB Charger
If you can you should flash pershoots kernel, one of its many features is that it enables charging from any charger.
mexxdude said:
I lost my usb charger and bought another one with a output of 2100 Ma. But he is charging only when the tab is off and only 60% of its capacity. Any ideas please
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It's likely that your charger ISN'T delivery 2.1A as you need to turn the tablet off.
Second possibility is that the charger is detected as a USB port, I have tried a few chargers and some generic ones are having this issue even though the output current is larger than 1A.
However, allowing it to stand for another 6-8 hours should allow you to recharge the battery to full.
Or you can just go get a real Samsung one from Samsung themselves. I wouldn't trust 3rd party USB chargers. Batteries can get messed up with unknown makes.
Rather stick to original parts, it's not worth stuffing up your battery and having to spend even more money
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Or you can just go get a real Samsung one from Samsung themselves. I wouldn't trust 3rd party USB chargers. Batteries can get messed up with unknown makes.
Rather stick to original parts, it's not worth stuffing up your battery and having to spend even more money
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Ditto...my thoughts exactly
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In trying to get a second charger for myself, I discovered that those chargers don't seem to be readily available at the regular sources, Bestbuy etc... I ended up getting the charger from a Verizon store for $25. It is a Verizon branded charger but it works perfectly.
tried a couple different kernels. same result. do I need to use a different charger? maybe fast/quick charge? don't know how to enable it.
currently on pa 2.53 and air kernel r5
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ramos247 said:
tried a couple different kernels. same result. do I need to use a different charger? maybe fast/quick charge? don't know how to enable it.
currently on pa 2.53 and air kernel r5
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I bet your charger is only putting out 500ma
instead of using a usb plug charger use a stand alone charger (also called a wall wart) they do charge faster.
ramos247 said:
tried a couple different kernels. same result. do I need to use a different charger? maybe fast/quick charge? don't know how to enable it.
currently on pa 2.53 and air kernel r5
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That's normal, sometimes when I play 3d online games while overclocking CPU and gpu , the power consumption will even be larger than 1000mv(household charging voltage), and the phone will provide an alert about "your phone is not charging, please close the applications "
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it's not a usb charger. this is in my vehicle and after a 30 minute ride I lose 5-8 percent in battery.
if it is using to much then is there a work around with a room or kernel or charger?
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it's not a usb charger. this is in my vehicle and after a 30 minute ride I lose 5-8 percent in battery.
if it is using to much then is there a work around with a room or kernel or charger?
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Most care chargers are 750 mA, the Galaxy nexus requires a 1A charger. I would double check the amp output on your charger and if it's not up to snuff, get a new one.. I highly recommend the iPad2 chargers (2.1 amp), just use your own cable.
now that is done information I can do something. thanks for the input. wonder if they have them in car chargers?
ramos247 said:
now that is done information I can do something. thanks for the input. wonder if they have them in car chargers?
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this is what i use:
http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F8Z689
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Also check your phone when charging, it should say "AC charging" if it's "USB Charging" then the phone itself is limiting the charging to .5 amps.
I'll keep that in mind. I'm too much of a rush. I'm going off roading on Saturday and don't have enough time to get it delivered. I'll be passing by best buy after work today
I'm guessing this I'd while in the car. I would look for a better car charger. I got a rocket fish one from best buy. Seems to be 1000mA
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Are you leaving the screen on too? That will definitely have an impact. Also I notice on longer car rides when I'm pushing my phone (i.e. streaming plus nav, etc.) it will overheat and stop charging at some point. I tend to leave the screen off while driving unless I absolutely need it.
so I got that Belkin 2.1 charger and it worked. didn't have to find a charger cord, just used the stock cord. I'm happy
ramos247 said:
so I got that Belkin 2.1 charger and it worked. didn't have to find a charger cord, just used the stock cord. I'm happy
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Glad it worked out.
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definitely sounds like you need a bigger charger greater than 500mA. my 1000mA gps charger with micro usb adapter does a good job with streaming and gps on.
http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Wire...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Mixed reviews, so buyer beware.
I'm just putting this out for those on a tight budget
I purchased this one a week ago and it works great. Charge time it's about as fast as the wall charger. I bought this one for work but I will be purchasing another for home. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=140991269881
When the f*ck did we get ice cream??
esimon311 said:
I purchased this one a week ago and it works great. Charge time it's about as fast as the wall charger. I bought this one for work but I will be purchasing another for home. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=140991269881
When the f*ck did we get ice cream??
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I guess they are pushing the specs then. AFAIK, the low power spec goes up to 5 watts, which would give 1 amp of power. Our phones will draw 1.8 amps when charging, so for the Qi pad to charge as fast as the wall charger, it would have to be putting out a lot more current than the specification allows. I wonder if that might be why some of the reviews stated that the charger got quite warm.
Does your particular unit get hot/warm?
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I guess they are pushing the specs then. AFAIK, the low power spec goes up to 5 watts, which would give 1 amp of power. Our phones will draw 1.8 amps when charging, so for the Qi pad to charge as fast as the wall charger, it would have to be putting out a lot more current than the specification allows. I owner if that might be why some of the reviews stated that the charger got quite warm.
Does your particular unit get hot/warm?
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The output on mine says 1.5 amps.
When the f*ck did we get ice cream??
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The output on mine says 1.5 amps.
When the f*ck did we get ice cream??
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Oops, my error. I misread your original reply. I thought you had purchased the one that I linked to.
andygold said:
Oops, my error. I misread your original reply. I thought you had purchased the one that I linked to.
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The pictures look the same but who knows.lol.
When the f*ck did we get ice cream??