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Hi everybody!
Little question appeared in my head- have anybody heard of replacement of CPU in the g2 or other htc models? Is ot possible?
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well, i understand that.
but maybe somebody from xda tryed this?
Never heard of it actually attempted but the question has been posed before.
Are you asking about replacing it with the same SOC that came with the G2 or a different one?
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Never heard of it actually attempted but the question has been posed before.
Are you asking about replacing it with the same SOC that came with the G2 or a different one?
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i think a different one, as an idea of maximizing productivity
Afaik, it hasn't been attempted before. The problem is it's not like the socket-based cpu's in pc's. These are system on chip, meaning everything is on them; cpu, gpu, everything, as far as I understand it. In a pc, as you know, these are separate parts that can be readily changed. Plus, no one really knows if the other hardware would be compatible. Then after all that, you need to get the software to work. It's a hell of a job.
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Afaik, it hasn't been attempted before. The problem is it's not like the socket-based cpu's in pc's. These are system on chip, meaning everything is on them; cpu, gpu, everything, as far as I understand it. In a pc, as you know, these are separate parts that can be readily changed. Plus, no one really knows if the other hardware would be compatible. Then after all that, you need to get the software to work. It's a hell of a job.
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But man would it be cool. True pain in the ass for sure
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Spastic909 said:
But man would it be cool. True pain in the ass for sure
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It would be defenetely cool
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Well I think it would theoretically be possible to change the CPU if they are pin compatible, which happens often with CPUs from a same series.
BUT
Where would you buy a cpu? what do you think it would cost?
and how would you assemble it on the mainboard, those modern IC's have very small pins/balls underneath it, which you can't just solder!
I was thinking after reading this yesterday and posting. Since we would be dealing with a SOC the baseband radio would be integrated into it - which means *if* this could be accomplished, it would give us the freedom to literally use a phone on any carrier we wanted will full data access speeds i.e. use the G2 on AT&T '4G'.
Obviously the 'easiest' method would be to use the SOC out of a Desire Z since everything would be the same except for the radio - thus eliminating software issues. Now all we need is a way to deal with the extreme micro scale of all the pins and such.
Now to switch out to say, a Tegra 2 - I doubt the pins match and that goes for any dual core. To go to something like an 8xXX series (are those dual or single?), now that might be possible but as far as single cores go the G2 has IMO the best out there. Sure there are some slightly upgraded 7xXX series processors out there but nothing worth the headache this would bring.
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I was thinking after reading this yesterday and posting. Since we would be dealing with a SOC the baseband radio would be integrated into it - which means *if* this could be accomplished, it would give us the freedom to literally use a phone on any carrier we wanted will full data access speeds i.e. use the G2 on AT&T '4G'.
Obviously the 'easiest' method would be to use the SOC out of a Desire Z since everything would be the same except for the radio - thus eliminating software issues. Now all we need is a way to deal with the extreme micro scale of all the pins and such.
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Its absolutely identical in every way. The radio amplifiers are NOT in the SOC, so this would NOT change the frequency. In addition, wouldn't it be easier to just swap phones than to rip them both apart to trade identical components first?
Now to switch out to say, a Tegra 2 - I doubt the pins match and that goes for any dual core. To go to something like an 8xXX series (are those dual or single?), now that might be possible but as far as single cores go the G2 has IMO the best out there. Sure there are some slightly upgraded 7xXX series processors out there but nothing worth the headache this would bring.
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The 8xxx series is identical. In fact, the 7230 ***IS AN*** 8255, its just **DOWNCLOCKED**. They changed the model id number ONLY.
An 8260 would DEFINITELY NOT be pin compatible, so the limit is 8255, which is pointless.
Well I agree it would be easier to just switch phones, albeit cheaper I was just answering his hypothetical question.
I always figured being a SOC the radio would be itegrated into that, guess that remote purpose for switching out the SOC is out the window.
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As for doing it you would need a micro balling and reflowing station
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Any FM radio gurus out there working on a GN app?
FM radio will only work if there is an FM radio in the phone. i know there was one hidden in the nexus one and it worked well after unlocked but i'm not to sure about the galaxy nexus.
Sure looking fwd to it, FM is rampant at the gym.
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An app isn't the problem.
The lack of usable FM hardware is the problem.
See this for a previous discussion: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314191
Nothing has changed:
(1) No Silicon Labs FM chip.
(2) The Broadcom FM chip antenna pins do not seem to go anywhere useful.
End of story IMO unless someone can prove (1) or (2) is incorrect, which I doubt.
Google doesn't like/want OTA FM IMO. The Nexus One was a fluke, as it was an HTC Desire derivative that didn't have the FM disabled.
you can always download tunein radio, it's free at getjar
No FM!
The lack of FM radio was almost a dealbreaker for me. I rarely listened to it on my Galaxy S but it was nice on occasion. There is always the online streaming but that eats into your data plan, unless you sit somewhere with free WiFi.
syfo said:
you can always download tunein radio, it's free at getjar
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+1i live on tunein
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Another vote for tune in. You can even set the stream quality, perfect for those of you on limited data plans.
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Hey i was wondering what's up with the Beats on the HTC one X, is it just marketing or do you get beats Earphones with the one X?
Also does one x have USB on-the-go and a feature like S beam (300mbps)
Beats is just an EQ setting, no headphones this time round.
As for S-Beam it does have WiFi direct which is used by S-Beam anyway just no quick NFC pairing.
s beam claims to transfer at 300mbps, does the wi fi direct on the one x that fast?
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s beam claims to transfer at 300mbps, does the wi fi direct on the one x that fast?
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sbeam is no where near that a photo takes 3 seconds
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waste of time
Beats adds no value over a 3rd party eq etc. and is otherwise just a marketing have.
The headphones that come with the HTC one X belong in the Bin along with all the other stock headphone that come with any other device.
Think it depenfs on your carrier, I got beats with vodafone ireland.
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A tad bit bout Beats :crying: and the Int. HOX.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
To conclude. It's pure marketing. Nothing else.
Separate topic bout this issue is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735565
seightch said:
Beats adds no value over a 3rd party eq etc. and is otherwise just a marketing have.
The headphones that come with the HTC one X belong in the Bin along with all the other stock headphone that come with any other device.
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Whilst I have binned every set of ear/head phones that came with something, I actually don't mind these earphones that came with my HOX from vodafone Australia. Naturally they don't kill good individually bought units but if one doesn't have another set of ear/head phones, someone could save some dollars and use these stock earphones.
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waz675 said:
Whilst I have binned every set of ear/head phones that came with something, I actually don't mind these earphones that came with my HOX from vodafone Australia. Naturally they don't kill good individually bought units but if one doesn't have another set of ear/head phones, someone could save some dollars and use these stock earphones.
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I agree - my uk hox came with alright headphones (best stock headphones I've EVER had). I personally think beats sounds alright as well (even though it is just a software ting); , of course, you're an audiophile and can be bothered re-EQing for every single different song you listen to. I've produced and recorded a couple of albums so don't consider myself 'deaf' and but maybe I'm just not that fussed about studio quality sound when I'm on my way to work...
I think it can be taken with a pinch of salt, and everyone will have different hearing thresholds. There's far too many web sites that dive far too in depth into chipsets, and the like and basically rip a phone apart. Unfortunately the average consumer enthusiast like ourselves, will take this information on board and choose a phone based on these supposed facts.
At teh end of the day, if one sounds better to you than the other, go buy it. most stores have a live testing device or a few, so take your headphones and play some tunes on them. Only then can you decide what is best for your ears, not anyone elses.
Let's face it, we've come a long way from carrying a phone and separate mp3 player
Yea i doubt S beam can get to 300mbps but it would still be fast than standard WIFI Direct in other phones
Also GSMarena says that the HTC one X doesn't have Image stabilization Built in, is that true?
Vodafone austria here and mine did come with Beats by Dr. Dre
cyprusx said:
Hey i was wondering what's up with the Beats on the HTC one X, is it just marketing or do you get beats Earphones with the one X?
Also does one x have USB on-the-go and a feature like S beam (300mbps)
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A friend brought an unlocked One X in the UK just a few weeks after it was launched and he did get the Beats headphones... I think HTC has stopped bundling the special headphone now.
As said beats is just dynamic compression with slight boosts to treble and bass , you can get the same and better with any eq app.
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Never thought i would see Android like this haha
http://www.astina.dk/multimedie/autoradio-2din-android-wince-695-touch-med-alt-p-116659.html
Google translate (for the lazys): http://translate.google.com/transla...android-wince-695-touch-med-alt-p-116659.html
I looked into getting something like this but have you seen the price?
Nearly £700 i will wait til its half that
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tenchar
I have a unit very similar to this, but no android on it, mine is an older model, would I be able to instal Android On it.
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There is a guy that deals in an Android unit for Rover 75 and MG ZT with all the Chinese variants.
I however as mentioned plumped for the cheaper WinCE unit.
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Just shove a Nexus 7 in the gap, 3.5ml to phono to your amp, 12v micro USB car adaptor, problem solved xD
Great now a non stable car stereo that crashed every 2 minutes... just what i need on a long drive.
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Great now a non stable car stereo that crashed every 2 minutes... just what i need on a long drive.
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Go buy a iphone if you're too rookie for Android.
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WebghostDK said:
Never thought i would see Android like this haha
http://www.astina.dk/multimedie/autoradio-2din-android-wince-695-touch-med-alt-p-116659.html
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Gasps I cant wait to S-off my radio and load a faux kernel.
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Hmmm, why does it have sense in one of the pics?
Edit: oops, just zoomed in, not sense at all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
This is a real android car radio and a hell of a lot cheaper
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
This is a real android car radio and a hell of a lot cheaper
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Yup cheaper, but you got a problem there. No remote for the buttons on the steering wheel. When used to those, its hard to get rid of
And the sound output is much worse compared.
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Android 2.2 6,5" CAR Device
There is an Android 2.2 800Mhz 256MB 8GB 6,2" TFT CAR DVD on sale (800 USD to door in Russia) that I have bought recently and after some software installations it does deliver what I have wanted to have in the car.
Nevertheless there are a few major complaints to its performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx53a6N7_ws
As well there are several other minor things that would be great to change if possible.
If there is someone interested and able to cook a custom ROM for this device - I can send this device for free as a gift and for experiments. We really want a good ROM for this CA-Fi Car Stereo and the guy's in China don't seem caring enough.
I will check this thread once in a while and provide contact details for anyone interested in developing this device. It is very close to being a great thing for a CAR!
I have updated my email in the XDA profile so you can as well use this option to contact me.
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I Have a ROM update file (192MB) that came from the device vendor (dealer). I can send it out for revision.
The way to install this rom on the car stereo is to extract files to the root of a microSD card, insert it, switch off the device, then, while holding the screen tapped, power on – the device starts an install mode. When finished it asks for screen calibration and restarts with a new rom as after a hard reset (erases everything).
And there is the Parrot as well.
i've gone down the route of car pc etc, it was running win 7.
to be honest, they're wayyy to much fuss and aggro.
the sound quality sucked, the screen was **** (it was cheap - £250 "cheap") and broke shortly after a year of having it.
a decent head unit, with either apt x bluetooth dongle plugged in, or just the 3.5mm with hox is much much better. sound quality is way better, and i don't have to put up with some slow 800mhz cpu when all i want is to be driving whilst listening to music
just a fyi for those considering, its a huge cost, for not actually that much benefit (unless you live in your car)
CA-Fi Android Car Radio
I understand you if you only need to have music playing while driving, as well as some people who still prefer using monochrome cell phones. This is a matter of needs.
Regarding the sound quality of this particular CA-Fi device its surprisingly fine. I use its 4x45W out lines conneted directly to car OEM speakers (its a Chrysler PT) and the subwoofer RCA out channel connected via a 1KW Kenwood amplifier to a large Polk Audio woofer. With the available in this device GEQ and Bass/Treble settings the unit provides perfectly sharp and clear sound in the high+mid ranges for the OEM speakers that in company with the powerful sub make a really impressive rich and clear sound scene with no distortion at any volume.
This sound setup is very easy and efficient. Honestly, to my hearing it is not lacking comparing to my previous JVC Mosfet 192/24 DAC car stereo that was routed through amplifiers for all channels to Focal speakers instead of the OEM... That was too much trouble for the gained advantage. Again, depending on the needs. Trully - the sound of this Android Radio is fine, a sound of a branded Hi-Fi car stereo.
And if you had a Win7 Car PC setup that is quite complicated to arrange you should agree that this easy one-box Android PC solution is a great idea. It provides the music and all the tablet PC advantages. It's really nice after switching on the ignition to hear from your car that you have a new e-mail arrived, and enjoy other goodies like that.
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And there is the Parrot as well.
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yes, I considered the Parrot, but found it limited for modifications and with a too small screen. There is as well a Clarion at present under development, but it does not appeal to me neither. It is a concept from the Clarion Malaysia division and most likely will be limited for modifications; if it will ever be released at all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNQC56S5NFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1TFiy2Dsdg
I really have spent some plenty of time on the web before selecting this CA-Fi device and I couldnt find anything better. To be honest I even went trough a mistake and loss of money by ordering an Android/WinCE dual OS device first (by the way its refferted to above in this thread). Result - I installed it into my dad's car (its better than his OEM 2003 Mercedes device anyway). But that one is wierd. My advice: be aware not to get one of those by mistake. For example, mine had GPS only in WinCE and 3G only in Android - so I couldnt have the Navigation system working along with traffic updates.... this spoiled everything for me.
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Important to know that CA-Fi offer a few dozens of versions of the same model with different front panels to match many of original car dashboards without the need of modifying the panels - the device fits in as a replacement for the OEM unit! As well for those who think that there are many different Android car stereos to choose from - this may be the same model with different front facing.
Like theese are the same device:
According to here: http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/google-nexus-7-teardown/ there is an
AzureWave AW-NH665 chip which is endowed with an FM radio tuner. It would be really awesome if some talented soul could develop an app for that!
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It depends on whether or not the bcm4330 chip actually sends power to that module. I haven't seen that module fire up in dmesg. That could mean that we simply need a driver for it. The fm framework is already out there. I'm not really a hardware guy but just some thoughts.
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It depends on whether or not the bcm4330 chip actually sends power to that module. I haven't seen that module fire up in dmesg. That could mean that we simply need a driver for it. The fm framework is already out there. I'm not really a hardware guy but just some thoughts.
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On another note, I have been playing with Samsung & HTC modules & drivers for the 4330 (Vivid & Captivate Glide) & I am getting 5Ghz wireless-n working sporadically. Just as HTC has added the capability to newer roms, it would also be possible for it to be supported quite easily by Asus as well. Would be great for streaming.
I would love to see this as I'm sure many would who wish to use the FM Radio for and N7 in a car install, I would gladly pay into double figures for this feature, any devs wishing to take it up there is a big market for getting fm radio working on the n7, do it and watch the £££ fly in ........
I doubt if a driver without an antenna would work - and I saw no sign of an FM antenna in the teardown.
5GHz support would be sweet... Antique adapters in the house really keep me speed limited on 2.4GHz (54MBS)..
That really sucks about the antenna. sometimes I like to listen to the football games out in the yard. Guess I'll have to use my phone.
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That really sucks about the antenna. sometimes I like to listen to the football games out in the yard. Guess I'll have to use my phone.
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I think perhaps the most definitive answer to this would be from Mike Reed, who I believe has a Nexus 7 and is also the author of the Spirit FM app. In this post it looks like he thinks it'll never happen.
Too bad... I use the FM Tuner in my phone all the time as well.
I just use Tunein Radio Pro. Was a FAOTD on Amazon. Used the free version before that. Gets the local stations I like...
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Thanks for that info. again, very disappointing.
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I use tunin sometimes too, but tunin radio is NOT a replacement for FM radio.
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always wonder why people want FM radio...
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always wonder why people want FM radio...
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Are you serious? No data use. Good for emergency situations. Easier on battery. List goes on... Always wonder why people don't want fm
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Are you serious? No data use. Good for emergency situations. Easier on battery. List goes on... Always wonder why people don't want fm
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Exactly. We got a hurricane bearing down on us right now. The last time this happened, We were without power for 3 weeks, and 3g was a laughable dream because all the cell towers were down. We NEED FM radio.
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Exactly. We got a hurricane bearing down on us right now. The last time this happened, We were without power for 3 weeks, and 3g was a laughable dream because all the cell towers were down. We NEED FM radio.
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Your Nexus battery isn't going to last 3 days. If this is for disaster situations, just get a regular FM radio or one of the ones where you can power it with a hand crank. Either way we don't NEED to have FM on the N7. It would just be a nice perk.
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I doubt if a driver without an antenna would work - and I saw no sign of an FM antenna in the teardown.
5GHz support would be sweet... Antique adapters in the house really keep me speed limited on 2.4GHz (54MBS)..
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Most mobile devices utilize a headset as the antenna. I wonder if this could be as simple as porting a FM tuner app from a device that has the same chip set with working FM tuner app?
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I was wondering if anyone had any success? I was thinking about integrating a Nexus 7 as a car stereo replacement. Mount it in the dash (trimmed to make my GM Double DIN space a little wider), and route a line out into an EQ, which then would feed into a couple amps. ~$50 for a used 7-11 band EQ, ~$200 for the Nexus = a pretty kick butt deck if you don't need CD. But I would still like FM for traffic, news, games, radio contests, etc....
Last time I checked there need not be an internal FM antenna, most devices with tuners in them actually use the ground lead of your headphones. This is also why radio apps often fail without headphones or powered speakers attached.
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Your Nexus battery isn't going to last 3 days.
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Lol, are you serious? I don't know about you but I had my N7 under clocked at 900mHz with WiFi on, bluetooth off, and display all the way down, and I got a week on my battery. A Nexus 7 is a tank when it comes to battery you could EASILY get 3 days off a N7 battery.
You can have FM on your Nexus 7 now
Just get one of those cheapy RTL2832U based USB DVB-T dongles (they can be as low as £5.60 from eBay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH_BIN=1&_fcid=3&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_clu=2&_nkw=RTL2832U&_sop=2)
Then download SDR Touch - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=marto.androsdr
You don't even need to root your Nexus 7.
You might want to have a powered USB OTG cable in order to make it last for longer, since the tuner and the SDR decoding on the CPU is quite a battery eater. Another downside is that you can't charge your tablet while having something plugged in the USB port.
FM Stereo and even possibly RDS are features that will appear in SDR Touch soon enough
An added bonus is that you can now also listen to police frequencies or analogue TV sound while you drive as well
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You can have FM on your Nexus 7 now
Just get one of those cheapy RTL2832U based USB DVB-T dongles (they can be as low as £5.60 from eBay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH_BIN=1&_fcid=3&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_clu=2&_nkw=RTL2832U&_sop=2)
Then download SDR Touch - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=marto.androsdr
You don't even need to root your Nexus 7.
You might want to have a powered USB OTG cable in order to make it last for longer, since the tuner and the SDR decoding on the CPU is quite a battery eater. Another downside is that you can't charge your tablet while having something plugged in the USB port.
FM Stereo and even possibly RDS are features that will appear in SDR Touch soon enough
An added bonus is that you can now also listen to police frequencies or analogue TV sound while you drive as well
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Tried that, not working, maybe because i do not have powered usb hub. But does anyone know what is the problem when device freezes and restarts whan plugging out otg?
Go for spirit radio on google play.....