[Q] Camera for ics info - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there... Time for changing the rom again.
I've been using MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable for some months now, and it was good, but old. I also tried other Oxygen roms long ago... and even a 4.0 from VJ.
But I think every 4.0 rom doesn't record video, and has lots of troubles with the camera, not for video just for taking pictures.
So my question is... how is the camera topic for ICS going? any progress?
I find it weird that other devices like galaxy mini can have 4.0 roms though they have worst hardware than desire.
Any one that has a good and fast app for taking pictures / record video that actually works in 4.0?
Android 2.3.7 seems so old now... do you guys advice any rom for 4.0 or 2.3.7?
Thx.

Shrewd said:
Hi there... Time for changing the rom again.
I've been using MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable for some months now, and it was good, but old. I also tried other Oxygen roms long ago... and even a 4.0 from VJ.
But I think every 4.0 rom doesn't record video, and has lots of troubles with the camera, not for video just for taking pictures.
So my question is... how is the camera topic for ICS going? any progress?
I find it weird that other devices like galaxy mini can have 4.0 roms though they have worst hardware than desire.
Any one that has a good and fast app for taking pictures / record video that actually works in 4.0?
Android 2.3.7 seems so old now... do you guys advice any rom for 4.0 or 2.3.7?
Thx.
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Most 4.x Roms have about the same camera capabilities. Try VJ's roms, or nikez. I have heard good things about both.

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Desire HD or Z ROM

Wow! The camera is now working for the new sense.
The new official versions of those new sense roms will come out very soon (Robociks RCMixHD and Desire Z Port).
Now, I am confused :
To rotate or not to rotate?
Anyone can help me decide?
Personally I don't like the look of it in Landscape so I'll say HD
Not followed the camera progress for a while so if it's working I'll be rooting again soon
I was going to ask the same question!. I can live without 720p for the time being - seems a minor fix compared to actually getting the camera working in these ROM's.
I am currently running Teppics ROM and i do like it but i am very tempted to try another!
Can i just ask what is the rotating part you are talking about? - I have not kept up with the ports until the camera issue was resolved?
wingnutta said:
I was going to ask the same question!. I can live without 720p for the time being - seems a minor fix compared to actually getting the camera working in these ROM's.
I am currently running Teppics ROM and i do like it but i am very tempted to try another!
Can i just ask what is the rotating part you are talking about? - I have not kept up with the ports until the camera issue was resolved?
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The HTC Sense can be viewed in a landscape mode in the Z ROM.
aaa said:
Wow! The camera is now working for the new sense.
The new official versions of those new sense roms will come out very soon (Robociks RCMixHD and Desire Z Port).
Now, I am confused :
To rotate or not to rotate?
Anyone can help me decide?
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to be honest, the rotating kind of annoys me, so i'm a HD rom man.
the MT4G rom is also interesting and worth a look if you want to try something a bit different. really fast too.
Hmmm....it seems rotation is not to everyone liking..
720p is also a minor problem for me as long as I have the camera working because I need the camera for emergency use when I don't have my Panasonic FZ38 with me.
Is there a speed difference between Z and HD?
My Mistake, ignore this reply
*This*
Never use 720p as it's terrible on the Desire so it doesn't bother me - just a working camera will do the job!!
All flashed and working fine
aaa said:
If I am not mistaken, MT4G is a non-Sense ROM.
I have tried Cynogen about two weeks ago, I like the speed but I got the impression that I was not holding an HTC Desire on my hand because the Sense was missing and Sense is a kind of a birth mark on every normal HTC Desire.
That is why I use Leedroid instead
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I'm trying to remember - it was a little while since I used it - but I think it was sense, or had the sense widgets anyway.
Here's the thread - take a look for yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392
aaa said:
Hmmm....it seems rotation is not to everyone liking..
720p is also a minor problem for me as long as I have the camera working because I need the camera for emergency use when I don't have my Panasonic FZ38 with me.
Is there a speed difference between Z and HD?
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why is 720p a problem for you? HD Recoring is pathetic on the desire
AndroHero said:
why is 720p a problem for you? HD Recoring is pathetic on the desire
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I wanna have everything functioning but again as said, it is only a minor problem, something I can live with.
Yup, very bad...the recording quality is pathetic.
cr1960 said:
I'm trying to remember - it was a little while since I used it - but I think it was sense, or had the sense widgets anyway.
Here's the thread - take a look for yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392
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yes the espresso mytouch 4G is a sense based HD rom and I've been using it for about a month now, super reliable and super fast (quadrant nearly 2000)
beanbean50 said:
yes the espresso mytouch 4G is a sense based HD rom and I've been using it for about a month now, super reliable and super fast (quadrant nearly 2000)
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Have you find any issues or bugs (the laggy 720p is already known)? Notification LED?
According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392 : "Rom is cleaned of bloatware."
Do you know :
What are/ is the bloatware/s? or what is missing or removed?
One of my fav mod now is the DSP manager and I am currently using Leedroid 2.2f, does the DSP thing works on that ROM?
aaa said:
Have you find any issues or bugs (the laggy 720p is already known)? Notification LED?
According to forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818392 : "Rom is cleaned of bloatware."
Do you know :
What are/ is the bloatware/s? or what is missing or removed?
One of my fav mod now is the DSP manager and I am currently using Leedroid 2.2f, does the DSP thing works on that ROM?
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the bloatware was all the t-mobile junk and game demos/apps etc
DSP manager isn't working on this rom at the moment
(but the dev is very helpful and will probably try to fix it if you ask him nicely )
In my opinion the rom kernel isn't the best, I've tried quite a few over the weeks and coutts99 kernel remix is the best so far (now with audiomod to boost the sound)
there is a promised new release version later on tonight so if you're thinking of flashing this rom hang on for a few hours...!
beanbean50 said:
the bloatware was all the t-mobile junk and game demos/apps etc
DSP manager isn't working on this rom at the moment
(but the dev is very helpful and will probably try to fix it if you ask him nicely )
In my opinion the rom kernel isn't the best, I've tried quite a few over the weeks and coutts99 kernel remix is the best so far (now with audiomod to boost the sound)
there is a promised new release version later on tonight so if you're thinking of flashing this rom hang on for a few hours...!
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I will definitely wait.
I want the new sense badly
It doesn't have to be the same DSP manager as I use at the moment as long as I can adjust the audio quality as I please.
I have tried the HD Rom 3 weeks ago, but switched back to Leedroid because of the camera was not working.
Now the camera is working, I can live with the 720p problem.Although, I am still hoping that the 720p problem will also be fixed soon.

Cyanogen Mod roms??

Im fairly new to the whole rooting/custom rom game (have a rooted DHD running Leedroid HD V2.2.2) and keep seeing Cyanogen Mod popping up everywhere!! Whats this ROM all about? I have read its a nightly so is constantly being updated, but is there any stable versions? Do normal android apps run on this platform? Is there any advantage to moving to one of these roms as opposed to a Froyo or GB rom? I only use my DHD for fairly basic stuff (gaming, navigation, music, email etc.) but do like it to be fast and look a bit different to every other DHD!!!
Thanks in advance! Dan
dansharpy said:
Im fairly new to the whole rooting/custom rom game (have a rooted DHD running Leedroid HD V2.2.2) and keep seeing Cyanogen Mod popping up everywhere!! Whats this ROM all about? I have read its a nightly so is constantly being updated, but is there any stable versions? Do normal android apps run on this platform? Is there any advantage to moving to one of these roms as opposed to a Froyo or GB rom? I only use my DHD for fairly basic stuff (gaming, navigation, music, email etc.) but do like it to be fast and look a bit different to every other DHD!!!
Thanks in advance! Dan
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Oops Many but basic questions....CyanogenMod is currently CM7 series...its based on GB only....but no-Sense....there are RC2 available which is stable enough...no reboots or crashs.....
Its an android rom only so all the application runs on this..
The only thing which you are going to miss is video player as the video player on the sense rom is nice....but alternative are available.
you will get many other things....speed is one of them...
Hope I have answered some...
G1sanju said:
Oops Many but basic questions....CyanogenMod is currently CM7 series...its based on GB only....but no-Sense....there are RC2 available which is stable enough...no reboots or crashs.....
Its an android rom only so all the application runs on this..
The only thing which you are going to miss is video player as the video player on the sense rom is nice....but alternative are available.
you will get many other things....speed is one of them...
Hope I have answered some...
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Awesome, thanks for the reply. I use Zimly for movie watching anyway so not bothered about loosing the sense player! Is there any advantage to using the cyanogen rom over say the leedroid/revolution GB roms??
Thanks again!!
dansharpy said:
Awesome, thanks for the reply. I use Zimly for movie watching anyway so not bothered about loosing the sense player! Is there any advantage to using the cyanogen rom over say the leedroid/revolution GB roms??
Thanks again!!
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It will remove sense...you can just see that sense roms are 200MB and CM7 is just 80MB...lot of bloat will be off and speed will be there...but if you love sense then its a different case...
CM has a good support so lot of features are getting added regularly...try it and see if it is of your liking.....try CM7-RC2
G1sanju said:
It will remove sense...you can just see that sense roms are 200MB and CM7 is just 80MB...lot of bloat will be off and speed will be there...but if you love sense then its a different case...
CM has a good support so lot of features are getting added regularly...try it and see if it is of your liking.....try CM7-RC2
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Ok so its basically the core Gingerbread with out sense. That sounds pretty good, ive never actually used Android without sense (DHD is my first android device!) so think i might give it a go!! Thanks again for the advice and thanks for the link!!

[Q] can we expect stable ics or jelly bean in the near future?

will it be possible to have a stable ICS or jelly bean rom in the near future or does it seem quite impossible.. when i say stable, i mean usable for daily use with camera,camcorder,video playback, fm radio, bluetooth running properly
Hello,
on ICS devs have already managed to get camera,camcorder,video playback and bluetooth working properly. and you can get fm radio working with an extra application.
on JB devs have got camera, and bluetooth working, but the camcorder and video playback still needs work. nothing is impossible when it comes to android. hope they will figure it out soon.
I've tried Paranoid android by Yasir and it worked well. For the camcorder and video playback, i installed 3rd party apps and worked just fine. But i don't really use those stuff that much.
MIMi King said:
Hello,
on ICS devs have already managed to get camera,camcorder,video playback and bluetooth working properly. and you can get fm radio working with an extra application.
on JB devs have got camera, and bluetooth working, but the camcorder and video playback still needs work. nothing is impossible when it comes to android. hope they will figure it out soon.
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are they stable on ICS? are you sure? last time i checked an ICS rom(less than 1 month), i got crashes while recording or random crash when taking photos
yeahman45 said:
are they stable on ICS? are you sure? last time i checked an ICS rom(less than 1 month), i got crashes while recording or random crash when taking photos
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I've tried couple of ICS rom lately, and one of them became my daily rom. Camera and video recording works good. 2 weeks time frame is far too long for them to be able to fix these issue. I'm using JB right now as my daily rom, i never experience any crashes.
and which ICS rom was it plz?
Just take a look at Q&A section, almost all issue threads are about ICS and JB roms.
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yeahman45 said:
are they stable on ICS? are you sure? last time i checked an ICS rom(less than 1 month), i got crashes while recording or random crash when taking photos
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I had this problem too but I think it depend on the ROM you use. I switched now to Sandvold ICS and had no problems until now. With MIUI ICS I had always reboots after taking a picture.
vBurak said:
I had this problem too but I think it depend on the ROM you use. I switched now to Sandvold ICS and had no problems until now. With MIUI ICS I had always reboots after taking a picture.
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I flashed Sandvold ICS once but removed it a day later. I don't quite remember why, think it was some crash problem.
However, I have tried Nikez ICS & JB, Elk759 JB, Spazedog ICS/JB. All of these ROMs are working fine for me without any problems or stupid crashes. However, a little faster ROM is needed.
Answer: no.
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vBurak said:
I had this problem too but I think it depend on the ROM you use. I switched now to Sandvold ICS and had no problems until now. With MIUI ICS I had always reboots after taking a picture.
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The rom you mentioned works on me as well, but I opted out because of the response (with MIUI ICS opening SMS takes 4 seconds, Titanium Backup 30 seconds to load the backup list..)
for me Spazedog ICS and Nikez Lente are the best opinions. The only real problem is the camcorder. For watching videos im using mxplayer.
guggi4 said:
for me Spazedog ICS and Nikez Lente are the best opinions. The only real problem is the camcorder. For watching videos im using mxplayer.
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videocamillusion is good, you could try it.
I was using Nikez ics rom before as my daily. I switch to JB couple of weeks ago.
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[Q] Best Rom for Camera

Hi,
What is the best rom for camera?
Metin
MetinKale38 said:
Hi,
What is the best rom for camera?
Metin
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Don't understand the question?!
Camera works fine on every ROM i had... including JellyTime R8 by randomblame.
So, what do you mean with this question?
MetinKale38 said:
Hi,
What is the best rom for camera?
Metin
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you mean the quality of the photos?
I want a rom with the best photo quality (and maybe many effects)
MetinKale38 said:
I want a rom with the best photo quality and many effects (sense4?)
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the virtuous infinity with sense 4full makes very good..
i remember that even the MIUI was great
however, you do not see a big difference.
You'll get the best camera quality with Sense ROMs (both GB & ICS). The next option would be CyanogenMod 7.2.0. The camera will never work as good for AOSP ICS and JB ROMs because the phone wasn't meant to run them by design, in the sense that the available drivers and libraries aren't made for AOSP. They have to be hacked, modified and backported from GB and the resulting quality of photos and video, while decent, is not as good as that with Sense ROMs.
The camera in Jellytime 8.0 works great for me. I have had a few problems with previous builds but the new one works great.
It's a tie between MIUI camera and HTC Sense. If you can get a sense camera, keep it. If you can't (like on a non sense ROM), go with one of the MIUI cameras. I recommend #17 (google it). I think they're pretty close in quality and usefulness.
The MIUI camera doesn't run on certain ICS ROMs, to make it work, you need to go to camera settings and change the size in pixels of the picture. Every time you leave the camera, and get back, you need to change the pixel size (change from 8mp to 6, then back for best size).
In JB go to settings and disable HW overlays, or else you'll get messed up lines of color running through the screen.
In GB you should be completely fine.
Hi,
Anyone have an update?
Some new ROMs, stable and with a good camera?
In some jelly time I have found some bugs or problems with autofocus..
Thank you for your reply..
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Thread has been closed. Best rom or comparison rom threads are not allowed.

so manny roms's! where are the stable one's?

Hi all,
I hope the developers read this also.
I dont get it, there are so manny different roms here, why are those people not working together for one stable rom?
I abused my Phone the last weeks with alot of roms found in development but all had issues, the issues dint resolve but the developer is paying attention to other version of android.?
Dont see this as a big flame to all of you,, i really love the fact that people put time in a old Phone like mine and make a nice rom for it.
But still... why so manny different roms? i see dev's having 3 threads with 3 different roms and there all apha beta, but no stables?
Is it a who's got the biggest brain idea here? or do i see it complete wrong?
Because 4.1.2 isnt stable but all the time goes in 4.2? then why even bother to make 4.1.2 if its Always stays in apha...
isnt that just a waste of time? isnt it alot better if the dev's working as 1 team?
My question is:
What rom is 4.1.2 or 4.04 and stable?
For now i'm using nikez lente 3.1P1 ? (the latest for 4.1.2) with nightly
but its crashing to much
But i really would like to see a stable 4.04 / 4.1.2 because it looks great!
Again dont see the evil in this post, its really something i just dont get and like to know why...
And yes big typing mistakes sorry
gr,
Tim
Timeku said:
Hi all,
I hope the developers read this also.
I dont get it, there are so manny different roms here, why are those people not working together for one stable rom?
I abused my Phone the last weeks with alot of roms found in development but all had issues, the issues dint resolve but the developer is paying attention to other version of android.?
Dont see this as a big flame to all of you,, i really love the fact that people put time in a old Phone like mine and make a nice rom for it.
But still... why so manny different roms? i see dev's having 3 threads with 3 different roms and there all apha beta, but no stables?
Is it a who's got the biggest brain idea here? or do i see it complete wrong?
Because 4.1.2 isnt stable but all the time goes in 4.2? then why even bother to make 4.1.2 if its Always stays in apha...
isnt that just a waste of time? isnt it alot better if the dev's working as 1 team?
My question is:
What rom is 4.1.2 or 4.04 and stable?
For now i'm using nikez lente 3.1P1 ? (the latest for 4.1.2) with nightly
but its crashing to much
But i really would like to see a stable 4.04 / 4.1.2 because it looks great!
Again dont see the evil in this post, its really something i just dont get and like to know why...
And yes big typing mistakes sorry
gr,
Tim
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There are no stable ICS or JB ROMs for the Desire. Period.
And in all probability there won't be one too because our phone hardware just doesn't support these newer versions.
There are many stable and fully functioning GB ROMs.
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They are stable. You just cannot call anybody from time to time and sometimes you get black screen and you cannot receive sms and camera does not work. And sometimes the phone hangs on incoming calls....
But apart from all that, they are very stable...
sudkcoce said:
They are stable. You just cannot call anybody from time to time and sometimes you get black screen and you cannot receive sms and camera does not work. And sometimes the phone hangs on incoming calls....
But apart from all that, they are very stable...
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hahaha quality
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sudkcoce said:
They are stable. You just cannot call anybody from time to time and sometimes you get black screen and you cannot receive sms and camera does not work. And sometimes the phone hangs on incoming calls....
But apart from all that, they are very stable...
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just my point. When i look @ cynagogen site or evervolv you see alot of work in custom roms, but none are stable as in works like you buy it from the shop.
Ofcourse Custom roms need alot of developing, bugs are easy to make, but i just dont get it why you make alot of time en effort into a rom like 4.1.2 and then suddenly you drop it and lets do 4.2 now...
The saddest part is that alot of you people donate a bit monny for the time they put into the rom but then at the end you got a bug Phone and a new rom 4.2 thats crashes 90% of your time... oo yes cool 4.2 lets donate spend time on it until where alpha / beta en then we spend time for android 5!
i just dont get that...
I dont like gingerbread or 2.1 2.2 2.3 etc i want 4.0.4 or 4.1 / 4.1.2 specialy the last on from nikez lente works for a alpha pretty good so you should think where almost there but then you can read where spending or time in 4.2... pffff
Well maybe its just me but i never seen this way of working before.
I dont have the monny to buy me a 4.1 android Phone. So i would like to have a stable rom and wanna put time it in but why not all the developers at the same time. i really think you can get a good rom in 1 month then.
Make a irc channel and go.
but then again everybody thinks different.
gr,
Tim
Sandvold's ICS was very stable when I used to use it. Some odd FC were an issue but it was so rare that it never bothered me. Maybe give that a try even though it hasn't been updated for a while, it's still ICS on a Desire.
FaisalKhatib said:
Sandvold's ICS was very stable when I used to use it. Some odd FC were an issue but it was so rare that it never bothered me. Maybe give that a try even though it hasn't been updated for a while, it's still ICS on a Desire.
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just my point also, readed the 1600X pages and there still bugs in there that I think is alpha instead of beta..
installed the The fastest/stable CM10 VJ Jelly Bean 4.1.2 v2.9.1
works great... will see after some weeks, but lots of updates thats how i like to see it.
AOKP V2.2 is pretty stable .
i have it for 2 months now
Just curious...what does ICS or JB so great on Desire when for example MildWinds 2.3.7 based ROM (5.7) is working flawless and it is stable?
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Timeku said:
just my point. When i look @ cynagogen site or evervolv you see alot of work in custom roms, but none are stable as in works like you buy it from the shop.
Ofcourse Custom roms need alot of developing, bugs are easy to make, but i just dont get it why you make alot of time en effort into a rom like 4.1.2 and then suddenly you drop it and lets do 4.2 now...
The saddest part is that alot of you people donate a bit monny for the time they put into the rom but then at the end you got a bug Phone and a new rom 4.2 thats crashes 90% of your time... oo yes cool 4.2 lets donate spend time on it until where alpha / beta en then we spend time for android 5!
i just dont get that...
I dont like gingerbread or 2.1 2.2 2.3 etc i want 4.0.4 or 4.1 / 4.1.2 specialy the last on from nikez lente works for a alpha pretty good so you should think where almost there but then you can read where spending or time in 4.2... pffff
Well maybe its just me but i never seen this way of working before.
I dont have the monny to buy me a 4.1 android Phone. So i would like to have a stable rom and wanna put time it in but why not all the developers at the same time. i really think you can get a good rom in 1 month then.
Make a irc channel and go.
but then again everybody thinks different.
gr,
Tim
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What you need to understand is that developers are trying to bring the latest and the greatest of Android to Desire. Stable GB updates for Desire were released when even HTC had given up on official GB update.
To use ICS or JB on Desire, you need to accept that it will never be as fast a SIII or OneX simply due to hardware limitations. Still there are ICS & JB ROMs available stable enough to be used on a daily basis quite comfortably. Multiple devs working on the same problem is not the solution.
If you can't upgrade to a JB phone, install a good JB ROM like Vijendra's CM10 JB and enjoy the new features with occasional restarts. But if photo and video recording is important to you even with the poor old 5 MP camera on our Desire, stick to GB.
I like vijndra's cm10 JB - rom based in evervolv. It is fast and very stable.
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xsreality said:
What you need to understand is that developers are trying to bring the latest and the greatest of Android to Desire. Stable GB updates for Desire were released when even HTC had given up on official GB update.
To use ICS or JB on Desire, you need to accept that it will never be as fast a SIII or OneX simply due to hardware limitations. Still there are ICS & JB ROMs available stable enough to be used on a daily basis quite comfortably. Multiple devs working on the same problem is not the solution.
If you can't upgrade to a JB phone, install a good JB ROM like Vijendra's CM10 JB and enjoy the new features with occasional restarts. But if photo and video recording is important to you even with the poor old 5 MP camera on our Desire, stick to GB.
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But now what i mean now they have made rom for all updates like ICS and JB
but Why different versions why they won't start working together and make stable rom atleast in ics then they try New versions of JB.
with new kernols ....
@Tim
You've got it totally wrong. The devs here aren't miracle workers. They just slightly edit from the resources they gain, to make it their own.
Just because a rom is titled alpha, doesn't mean it in no way can be a finalized rom.
If the resource from start isn't even beta, don't think the devs are god and can change this. You should adjust your expectations.
However I get you're frustrations about donating.
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winesh said:
Just because a rom is titled alpha, doesn't mean it in no way can be a finalized rom.
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What you nowadays call a rom - can't. I believe his frustration is derived from situation where this thread was reduced to 'JB is pretty stable'. You are looking for it in the wrong place.
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erklat said:
What you nowadays call a rom - can't. I believe his frustration is derived from situation where this thread was reduced to 'JB is pretty stable'. You are looking for it in the wrong place.
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Erklat, try the viehandras jb rom, you'll be surprised, just like am, still!
sudkcoce said:
Erklat, try the viehandras jb rom, you'll be surprised, just like am, still!
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croniccorey's is better (imo) it just feels smoother and more complete. give it a try. been using it for few days and not 1 issue with it. normaly id restore my Runnymede aio backup after a day but this rom actually works very good.
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