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I've noticed that if i start typing very fast on my desire it stuffs up - Skipping some finger presses. I then did a test - i held down one key with one finger and tried to touch another key with another finger and noticed nothing happends.
Can others please check to see if they are also having this problem.
Thanks,
Brandon
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Its not a 'problem' there just isnt a multitouch keyboard. Im not sure why this is an issue since im pretty sure that apart from the essentials like shift, Ctrl etc PC keyboards arent either!
Yep, its like that on all desires. The keyboard probably uses the same code as the older non multitouch HTC's
rovex said:
Its not a 'problem' there just isnt a multitouch keyboard. Im not sure why this is an issue since im pretty sure that apart from the essentials like shift, Ctrl etc PC keyboards arent either!
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I think the 'issue' is that on a physical keyboard you may begin to press the second key before you fully let go of the first. On a hardware keyboard the second key press takes precedence whereas the HTC keyboard doesn't always register the second key press and you have to press it again.
Its not a 'problem' there just isnt a multitouch keyboard. Im not sure why this is an issue since im pretty sure that apart from the essentials like shift, Ctrl etc PC keyboards arent either!
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you dont use a touch keyboard the same way you use a normal keyboard. and yes, they do have 'multitouch', though i wouldnt refer to it as such.
The problems that the keyboards slow and very unresponsive + the space bar often doesnt work and a few letters per sentence are skipped because theres no multitouch. And most of the reviews claimed "the multitouch keyboard found on the desire is great"
Oh well, i found a keyboard on the marketplace thats multitouch
Thanks for the quick reply guys. Good to know theres nothing wrong with my phone
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The problems that the keyboards slow and very unresponsive + the space bar often doesnt work and a few letters per sentence are skipped because theres no multitouch. And most of the reviews claimed "the multitouch keyboard found on the desire is great"
Oh well, i found a keyboard on the marketplace thats multitouch
Thanks for the quick reply guys. Good to know theres nothing wrong with my phone
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Which keyboard is that? Thanks in advance!
The stock keyboard.
Think theres anyway to enable multitouch in the stock keyboard?
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Has anyone gotten it working with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 Google IO LE with 3.1? I've gotten it to connect but can't use anything with it (not even the Android OS). If you have gotten it to work please share with us how you did it. Thanks in advance!
+1
Same here. It paird and recognized as a mouse. But doesn't do anything.
I have read that it works with Xoom running 3.1 so in theory it should work with Galaxy. Did you guys try with different mouse? (non apple mouse)
i just received my Apple bluetooth keyboard and magic trackpad that i got off ebay for my mac, but i got curious and paired both of them with my IO tab, and they are working great, im actually typing this from the keyboard and the trackpad works except for the 2 finger scroll, but hey i cant complain.
and i have updated to 3.1, not rooted.
SGT 10.1 uplink initiative
Tried my Apple Magic mouse on my friends Xoom with 3.1 and it works, but it definitely does not work on my GTab with 3.1.
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Tried my Apple Magic mouse on my friends Xoom with 3.1 and it works, but it definitely does not work on my GTab with 3.1.
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I just tried my Apple Magic Mouse on my Samsung GalTab 10.1 with 3.1 and I can confirm that it does not work.
However, the Apple Magic Trackpad does work. (The gestures don't work, but the 2 basic features of moving the cursor and clicking do work.)
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i just received my Apple bluetooth keyboard and magic trackpad that i got off ebay for my mac, but i got curious and paired both of them with my IO tab, and they are working great, im actually typing this from the keyboard and the trackpad works except for the 2 finger scroll, but hey i cant complain.
and i have updated to 3.1, not rooted.
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Everything is the same here, except mine is rooted. Same results here.
BTW, when you are using the Apple bluetooth keyboard, does the onscreen keyboard pop up too? I can close it and keep using the Apple bluetooth keyboard, but every time I move into a text field, the onscreen keyboard pops up again. It's a bit annoying.
It's not just 2 finger scroll that doesn't work -- none of the trackpad gestures work. The gestures are what make the Magic Trackpad "magical." But I didn't really expect them all to work completely, although I was hoping for the basic features.
It would be a dream if we could get something like BetterTouchTool for android:
http://blog.boastr.net/
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what is that?
novicejeep said:
Same here. It paird and recognized as a mouse. But doesn't do anything.
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To clarify my own response, this is exactly what I saw with the Magic Mouse. It pairs and connects. But it doesn't do anything.
When I doubled clicked a few times I did get the same message that I got when connecting the BT keyboard. So I guess Android thinks the Magic Mouse is a keyboard.
Also, as I already said, the Apple Magic Trackpad does work. But it lacks gesture support. So I guess that even if the Magic Mouse would work, it would not have the magical gestures.
+1 I'm trying to get this to work wit the magic mouse and id love better touch tool for honeycomb.
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Everything is the same here, except mine is rooted. Same results here.
BTW, when you are using the Apple bluetooth keyboard, does the onscreen keyboard pop up too? I can close it and keep using the Apple bluetooth keyboard, but every time I move into a text field, the onscreen keyboard pops up again. It's a bit annoying.
It's not just 2 finger scroll that doesn't work -- none of the trackpad gestures work. The gestures are what make the Magic Trackpad "magical." But I didn't really expect them all to work completely, although I was hoping for the basic features.
It would be a dream if we could get something like BetterTouchTool for android:
http://blog.boastr.net/
what is that?
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None of the gestures on mine work either, I just mentioned the two finger scroll cuz that's the only gesture I was really hoping worked. The keyboard displays on mine aswell when I get to a text field.
The uplink initiative thing is just me being a dork with my sig lol I had actually typed initiated but misspelled it and it corrected it as initiative and I just sounded kooler lmao I'm such a geek.
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Just tried it after putting the 1.4 GHz overclock kernel. Same result (Not working)
the suport is def. in my custom kernel for this device.
i rolled in a bunch of patches specifically for it.
what exactly is not working?
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the suport is def. in my custom kernel for this device.
i rolled in a bunch of patches specifically for it.
what exactly is not working?
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the support is for magic 'trackpad'.
Yeah this is the magic mouse. It has gestures on it, but is also a mouse. The problem is that the GT 10.1 seems to detect it as a keyboard once it connects. When the mouse is connected it doesn't do anything for the tablet.
Anyone try the Magic Trackpad with the Retail 10.1 (US WiFi for me) with Pershoots kernel?
I may break this post out since the title is off topic from [OP]
magic mouse does not work with me either
about the mouse
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So can you help us out with this? I can volunteer testing I always your kernels anyway
my Apple Magic Mouse oairs and connects to my GSlate running 3.1, but it doesnt do anything.
Pershoot, even magic trackpad doesn't work. I've tried both the trackpad and magic mouse, both pairs and connects with the tab, but there's no cursor or anything appears at all
I have just flashed over to the latest version of CM9 (Beta 12) from a MIUI.us ROM. Once thing that has been extremely irritating that I have found with ICS based ROMs (I've tried other ICS ROM as well) it's how the physical keyboard's Alt and Shift/Caps key functions.
On every other ROM I've used those keys have functioned in the exact same way. Hit Alt once, the next key you hit will be the alternate number or symbol above the main function of the key. Hit Alt twice, it locks Alt on so all the keys you hit next will be the alternate character. And you can cycle through these by hitting Alt multiple times and you see the typing cursor change with a different triangle symbol above the cursor. The Shift/Caps key works the same way, but just capitalizes the key instead of the Alt function.
On ICS ROMs the keys function completely different. If you hit the Shift/Caps key once it essentially turns Caps Lock on, making all characters I type capitals. And if I want to turn it off I have to hit it one more type, type another capital character and then it's back to normal. Along with this the symbols above the typing cursor are now gone making it difficult to know when I have caps lock on. The Alt key locks the same way.
Now I don't know if this is "working as intended" or not, but I would really like to figure out a way to revert it back to the normal, and logical, way of typing.
Something is wrong with your keyboard. Using both stock and Swiftkey X I have my keyboard behave as you originally lay out, which is the default behavior.
Which keyboard are you running? The behavior you mention is actually a bug with the new Swiftkey 3 and I opened a ticket on their site about it, but Swiftkey X works wonderfully.
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I think he's talking about the hardware keyboard and not the on screen.
I think you need to reinstall and whipe your ROM because on my ICS Beta 12 eveything works as you discribed in Gingerbread ROM's
It's not normal. It normally behaves with CM9 as it ever has on every ROM I've tried, you've got a weird problem there. If it's not the keyboard bug that is mentioned in the second post, try a fresh install, or try posting in the CM9 topic, maybe someone else got that problem and knows how to fix it.
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I think he's talking about the hardware keyboard and not the on screen.
I think you need to reinstall and whipe your ROM because on my ICS Beta 12 eveything works as you discribed in Gingerbread ROM's
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It's not normal. It normally behaves with CM9 as it ever has on every ROM I've tried, you've got a weird problem there. If it's not the keyboard bug that is mentioned in the second post, try a fresh install, or try posting in the CM9 topic, maybe someone else got that problem and knows how to fix it.
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You realize that software keyboards apply to your hardware keyboard right? For instance, if you use Swift Key X it (can) actually applies auto-complete to the *hardware* keyboard. It just obviously doesn't overlay the QWERTY keys.
As I said, with SwiftKey 3 beta the behavior described in the OP is observed when using the hardware keyboard -- so the OP needs to check what keyboard he's using, because ICS stock & SwiftKey X do not cause his issue.
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You realize that software keyboards apply to your hardware keyboard right? For instance, if you use Swift Key X it (can) actually applies auto-complete to the *hardware* keyboard. It just obviously doesn't overlay the QWERTY keys.
As I said, with SwiftKey 3 beta the behavior described in the OP is observed when using the hardware keyboard -- so the OP needs to check what keyboard he's using, because ICS stock & SwiftKey X do not cause his issue.
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Of course, that's why I said that he should try wiping if it's not the problem that you mentioned. I guess you misunderstood my post.
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As I said, with SwiftKey 3 beta the behavior described in the OP is observed when using the hardware keyboard -- so the OP needs to check what keyboard he's using, because ICS stock & SwiftKey X do not cause his issue.
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This was the issue, the SwiftKey 3 Beta was making my physical keyboard Alt and Shift/Caps key function incorrectly. So now I'm back to SwiftKey X and everything is working perfectly!
Thanks for the help.
Quinnelton said:
This was the issue, the SwiftKey 3 Beta was making my physical keyboard Alt and Shift/Caps key function incorrectly. So now I'm back to SwiftKey X and everything is working perfectly!
Thanks for the help.
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I'll try to find the link to the bug I filed on the SwiftKey forms. Maybe we can get some people to bump it and see the issue resolved in the next beta?
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I see the same thing, is swiftkey X worse than beta 3?
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I see the same thing, is swiftkey X worse than beta 3?
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Worse? No way, some consider it better. It's definitely better for the DZ/G2 since it doesn't have a crippling bug that makes the hardware keyboard basically unusable.
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Hey guys, upvote this bug here to hopefully get it fixed in SwiftKey 3: http://support.swiftkey.net/forums/...2-fn-key-into-lockmode-on-htc-desire-z-hardkb
I did it few months ago, but without response from swiftkey it is sad
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I up-voted this bug. Still can't believe it's around!
Upvoted. I'm going to have to go thru some old Titanium back ups and see if I still have Swiftkey X. Getting fed up with this tbh.
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Hey guys, upvote this bug here to hopefully get it fixed in SwiftKey 3: http://support.swiftkey.net/forums/...2-fn-key-into-lockmode-on-htc-desire-z-hardkb
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If you guys still care about this issue, Swiftkey responded to the original post last week (March 4, 2013)
SwiftKey Dev Team (Admin, SwiftKey) responded · Mar 4, 2013
Hi everyone, we are looking into making SwiftKey work better on devices with hard keyboards, we’ll let you know when we have more information or an ETA.
To achieve this we will ask you to give us a few more details to narrow down the problem:
- What brand and model is your device?
- What Android version are you running and is it a custom ROM or stock Android provided by the manufacturer?
Thanks
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If you guys still care about this issue, Swiftkey responded to the original post last week (March 4, 2013)
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Cheers for that. Responded, hopefully they'll get it finally sorted.
SHIFT and ALT hard key functionality implementation in ICS...?
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Worse? No way, some consider it better. It's definitely better for the DZ/G2 since it doesn't have a crippling bug that makes the hardware keyboard basically unusable.
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Hi,
We are working on a device which contains physical keyboard with OS version 4.0.4(ICS)(Note: looks like Blackberry bold model).
In that device *Shift Key (*KEYCODE_SHIFT_LEFT*) and *ALT key* (*KEYCODE_ALT_LEFT*)is not working.
We are getting the proper KEYCODEs when we press those buttons in PhoneWindowMAnager.java.
Now where we have to handle those keys and what exactly functionality needs to be implement when press those hard keys.
Otherwise in ICS, is already handled those keys in some other files??
Generally when we press once the SHIFT key, for eg: when I press and hold shift key after that if I press 'a'character then 'A' needs to be printed.
This kind of functionality needs to be implement for SHIFT key.
And when we press ALT key it has to be display Special Character.
Is anybody is having any idea about this...
Regards,
abhay
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Cheers for that. Responded, hopefully they'll get it finally sorted.
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Yeees! they fixed the issue, you need to update your app though. I can confirm the problems been fixed on my g2. Thanks to Swiftkey and the people who upvoted!
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Evan Tapper (Admin, SwiftKey) responded · Mar 26, 2013
This issue with the hard keyboard has been resolved in the update of 4.0.1 which we just released today.
You can also see what version you are using within the “About” submenu within SwiftKey.
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Thanks for the heads up. I had gotten so annoyed with swiftkey not working on the keyboard I'd switched back to stock.
Sheer bliss to have it back.
Can someone tell me where the stock samsung keyboard symbols are on the note on the left??? Both are LJC rooted with twrp. I can't find anything in the settings that will give me the symbols above the numbers. Any help will be appreciated.
70 people and nobody knows?...ouch....ok..anyone with any input will be thanked by me(i'll actually thank your post)......thanks
I'm kind of confused. The only time I saw people post the non symbol keyboard was in the international forum.
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70 people and nobody knows?...ouch....ok..anyone with any input will be thanked by me(i'll actually thank your post)......thanks
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What happens if in the keyboard setting you reset said settings?
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What happens if in the keyboard setting you reset said settings?
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I tried that, since I don't use that keyboard. Mine continued to have the symbols above the letter keys, as before. I think it may have to do with the fact that the microphone and settings symbols on the key at the bottom left are opposite between the two layouts. I tried to find anything that would let me change that in anything related to voice settings, but had no luck.
the 1 on the left(no symbols) was bought at a sprint store...the 1 with the symbols was bought on ebay from a reliable seller. both are activated on my sprint account. the 1 on the left was rooted with the "tool kit"..the 1 with no symbols was...sorry i don't remember how i rooted it but it wasn't with the tool kit...,,,either way thanks for the input fellas...im stumped...i was using swype on my gs3's and i was happy to see the top row of numbers on the sammy KB...but i'd like the symbols...
[/COLOR]is the one on the left running a debloated rom? I noticed while doing my flashaholicness that som roms have this no symbol keyboard
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Mine had the symbols on stock, once I installed jellybomb they went away. I tried extracting the keyboard from the stock ROM (I made a nandroid before flashing) but the symbols did not come back.
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the only thing i flashed was this OTA update found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978470
again i only flashed the "root66_LJ1_TO_LJC.ZIP OTA...could this be it?
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the only thing i flashed was this OTA update found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978470
again i only flashed the "root66_LJ1_TO_LJC.ZIP OTA...could this be it?
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Could be. Try flashing the dedexed stock rom from recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981668
I did not use that method to root and cant test until I get my laptop back
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hankbear said:
I tried that, since I don't use that keyboard. Mine continued to have the symbols above the letter keys, as before. I think it may have to do with the fact that the microphone and settings symbols on the key at the bottom left are opposite between the two layouts. I tried to find anything that would let me change that in anything related to voice settings, but had no luck.
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that symbol just shows what was used last. if you use it to go into settings it will show the gear until it is used again. Use it for voice input and it will switch to the mic. The theory is that the one tap option switches to what was used last since that is probably what you use most.
As to the op topic, I am on Jelly bomb with 'add back allshare' flashed and I don't have the symbols.
it would be interesting to have more people state their rom and if they have symbols or not.
edit: I just flashed the LJC DEODEX and have symbols on the keyboard now.
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that symbol just shows what was used last. if you use it to go into settings it will show the gear until it is used again. Use it for voice input and it will switch to the mic. The theory is that the one tap option switches to what was used last since that is probably what you use most.
As to the op topic, I am on Jelly bomb with 'add back allshare' flashed and I don't have the symbols.
it would be interesting to have more people state their rom and if they have symbols or not.
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no, the symbols are even in different places on these kb.
jellybomb was the only rom i tried that had this effect. clean rom and blazer had the full stock symbols back when i tried them.
even pulling the stock kb from a nandroid doesn't fix it. some other file/program seems to control what keyboard keys are attached to what symbols. it would be nice to find out which and be able to customize and remove symbols i never use.
thank all for your input...as far as the "mic"/"settings" symbol...that DOES change to the last selected option...if it shows the mic icon and i long press it to go into the selectable options and choose "settings"..it will them show the settings icon..
as far as my OP at least now i know...you should have seen me in the damn options trying to figure out what i was "missing"...and then it took me 25 minutes to press "submit new thread" on this because i just knew some 12 yr old was going to point me to an option i was completely over looking!!!
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no, the symbols are even in different places on these kb.
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I am not sure what you are saying no to, which symbols are in different places? So far it seems the symbols are either there or not there, not that they have moved around location to different places
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jellybomb was the only rom i tried that had this effect. clean rom and blazer had the full stock symbols back when i tried them.
even pulling the stock kb from a nandroid doesn't fix it. some other file/program seems to control what keyboard keys are attached to what symbols. it would be nice to find out which and be able to customize and remove symbols i never use.
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The OP said that he is having this problem with a rooted stock rom.
If it is like you said and some program is controlling this than it seems like a problem that could show up after time has passed, further adding confusion. My stock rom shows symbols now but what about in a few days. That would make it seem like it is a bug that samsung needs to address.
again...the 1 WITH the symbols... i took the OTA and then rooted with the "note2 tool kit"
the 1 WITHOUT the symbols..i rooted it and added TWRP and i flashed a rooted version of the OTA..i used "ROOT66_LJ1_TO_LJ6_OTA_UPDATE.ZIP...found in the link i posted previously...
otherwise the phones are stock/rooted with TWRP...I may flash back to stock on the 1 without symbols and re-root with the "note2 tool kit"..to see what happens.(when i have a chance)..
Could just be a de bloated feature, I don't mind having the main punctuation symbols associated with the period key. Just hold it for a half second and it pops up. After looking at other keyboards online is hard to want to take any cause now after having this designated number row I'm spoiled
I won't go with out. I just hope Swift key Flow has an option for designated number row whensit's released.
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Could just be a de bloated feature, I don't mind having the main punctuation symbols associated with the period key. Just hold it for a half second and it pops up. After looking at other keyboards online is hard to want to take any cause now after having this designated number row I'm spoiled
I won't go with out. I just hope Swift key Flow has an option for designated number row whensit's released.
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i too am spoiled by the designated number keys...and its true the symbols under the period key are just fine...i started this topic thinking i was missing something about how to get the symbols above the numbers like my note2 on the right in the OP...i never had any idea that there would be 2 different versions of the same keyboard...but like i said in an earlier post..."at least i know now" (haha)..it was driving me crazy looking for keyboard settings that DIDN'T EXIST!!!!...
on a side note..i like to see this keyboard(swift key flow) delete the entire word when "backspace" or the back arrow key is pressed...thats very convenient in swype..
The symbols are missing due to an edited feature.xml, which you can find in the system/csc folder.
Pull the feature.xml from the one with the symbols and push it the the other phone set the permissions and reboot.
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The symbols are missing due to an edited feature.xml, which you can find in the system/csc folder.
Pull the feature.xml from the one with the symbols and push it the the other phone set the permissions and reboot.
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seems it may be in the SIP section. there is one missing entry and one extra entry that differs from blazer rom. i may check it later and see what happens.
if someone lists a quick 1 2 3 step by step of which .xml file and where..i'll give a crack and see what happens...
Hey all, I'm loving my new 10.1 Pro. One thing that I'm having trouble with is that when I connect a BT mouse (have tried 2 so far), the tablet thinks it's also the default keyboard... ???? Cannot get the onscreen keyboard to work unless I disconnect the mouse. I also have a BT keyboard that still works, and is also the default keyboard. I cannot figure out how to fix this. Any ideas?
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And Thought is was just me. Same problem with 8.4 pro. Can't seem to get widgets on lockscreen either.
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Hey all, I'm loving my new 10.1 Pro. One thing that I'm having trouble with is that when I connect a BT mouse (have tried 2 so far), the tablet thinks it's also the default keyboard... ???? Cannot get the onscreen keyboard to work unless I disconnect the mouse. I also have a BT keyboard that still works, and is also the default keyboard. I cannot figure out how to fix this. Any ideas?
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Have you tried to go to
Settings /controls / language and input
And click default to change the keyboard to any on screen keyboard.
If works thanks would be appreciated
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Have you tried to go to
Settings /controls / language and input
And click default to change the keyboard to any on screen keyboard.
If works thanks would be appreciated
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I will try that when I get home tonight. Thanks.
trevor7428 said:
Have you tried to go to
Settings /controls / language and input
And click default to change the keyboard to any on screen keyboard.
If works thanks would be appreciated
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Yes, my default keyboard is Thumb Keyboard. It still will not pop up.