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Confused with App2SD

Hi!
I'm using DeFrost 1.8 and I think that my confusion will be same on any other FroYo ROM.
I know that DeFrost has Apps2SD buildin and cause it's a FroYo ROM, already have the FroYo-style Apps2SD.
I must confess that i don't care where my apps are installed. I just supose that are stored on SD card using old-Apps2SD method.
Now, I've installed App2SD from Market and show some apps that are on internal memory and some on SD card, but there are lot more apps that I have installed on my phone that don't show up on this app.
Now, I'm very confused with this.
When I install a new app from Market, in what location is installed ? Internal, SD card using App2SD-old or App2SD-FroYo ?
How can I select the default location for new installations ?
I have SpareParts from LeoFroyo and App2sd location is on 'Default'. This means internal memory or old-style App2SD or what ?
If my ROM has buildin old-style App2SD, I can suppose that 'default' means this method. Or not ?

Is your SD card setup for old-A2SD with an EXT3 partition? If not, then they'll either go on the internal memory or the SD card using FroYo-A2SD (although not all apps are installed to the SD card as the creator may not have updated them yet)

Another question:
I actually haven't any Ext3 partition and may applications already installed, some on internal memory and some with the froyo-a2sd on the sd card.
I would like to create an Ext3 partition. I was thinking about the following steps:
- backup the fat32 content of the sd
- create a 1Gb ext3 partition
- restore the content of the Fat32 partition to SD
The problem is:
I will probably lose all the applications installed on the internal memory
Is it right? How can I solve this? Do I have to move everything to the new partition?
Which directories do I have to copy on Ext3?
Is sufficient to backup everything with Titanium and the restore once the Ext3 has been created?
Another problem is:
I started the system with an Ext3 partition and I couldn't access any application I installed before. Is there a way to recover those applications?
Once I erased the Ext3 partition (without installing anything on it) the phone started a boot loop.
What if I create the Ext3 before installing the new rom?
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Daemon

EddyOS said:
Is your SD card setup for old-A2SD with an EXT3 partition? If not, then they'll either go on the internal memory or the SD card using FroYo-A2SD (although not all apps are installed to the SD card as the creator may not have updated them yet)
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Yes, my SD card have an ext3 partition. So, the apps that don't appear at the App2SD applicaction, it's supposed that are on the ext3 partition ?
Then, why I have some apps in internal memory and other on FroYo-app2sd and the rest on ext3 part ?
I can't understand this.

[Q] help cm7 sd ext partion

I would like to increase internal memory to 1gb .......I would like to use simple2ex or data2sd...I need full detail about SD partion..I have already flashed cm7..please help

not possible
kp.nikhil said:
I would like to increase internal memory to 1gb .......I would like to use simple2ex or data2sd...I need full detail about SD partion..I have already flashed cm7..please help
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You'd have to have a [custom] hboot that had partition info set up like you wanted [to change system partition information]. Not an easy task. Doubtful it would ever come to fruition. Besides our devices have 512 MB ROM, 512 MB RAM (418 MB user-available). So allocating that all to system would be unwise. Now SD card partitioning... our device supports up to 32 gigs Those two you mentioned or Darktremor's Apps2sd are great tools for moving your apps or even dalvic vm to your sd card. You can partition your sd as you wish with the unofficial cwm recovery (under advanced options). I will try to port another recovery [4ext] in the future which is great for sd partitioning (data aligns everything; supports ext4). CWM is not too shabby though; give it a whirl. Hope that helps.
Rob

I've tried to make sd-ext with Rom Manager -> Make partitions on SD. I've shoose 512Mb (of 16Gb miscroSD) and 32Mb swap file. But still have 178Mb internal memmory.
What is wrong?

I used Minitool Partition Wizard (free) to split my SD 16Gb on Fat32 & ext4 512Mb. Works Fine! Link2SD identify external partirion.

cool
congrats. Just a suggestion... change your OP from [Q] to [Answered] even though you answered your own question. May help someone else.
Rob

data2sd not installing for me after i install i get a boot loop..

you need Apps2sd or Data2sd not both
The rom has Apps2sd... You want Data2sd. You will have to remove apps2sd support, then add data2sd support. Can't have both.
Rob

[Q] Internal Memory Full after Reboot; All Apps on SD

My HTC Desire was restarted due to low battery long after I restored some backups (app + data) with Titanium Backup. When I booted back into Android, it showed 1MB of free internal space! So thought it might be the 4 downloads I had, so I deleted all of them and Android then said it had 61MB of free internal space.
Then I rebooted but now I only have 216KB free space!!
This is the second time it's happened and I've tried everything including SD Maid and every single app is linked to the SD card's 2nd partition. This didn't happen when Installing apps from the Play store or from Easy Installer; and Avast finds no problems.
It keeps saying "Unfortunately Google Play Store has stopped" etc. and the phone is very slow including booting.
I'm not willing to re-flash everything again and manually install each app, especially as the first time re-flashing, Clockwork Recovery said it couldn't mount the SD card, then after formatting, Windows 7 wouldn't recognize it, then neither would (after formatting using gparted)!
I'm only using Link2SD on ICS for HTC Desire 0.4.4.4.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.
This is extremely irritating, can anyone help please?

Using any scripts like A2SD?

Cool story bro. Please post more relevant information so peeps here can help you out. How about letting us know your hboot information, rom you are currently using, scripts etc. ;-)

I'm only using Link2SD on ICS for HTC Desire 0.4.4.4.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.

DarkIceGB said:
I'm only using Link2SD on ICS for HTC Desire 0.4.4.4.1, default HBoot, Clockworkmod Recovery Touch 5.8.0.2, aGPS and default homescreen with no scripts.
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try stock a2sd then enable it with terminal
Code:
su
a2sd install
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Edit: also DL 5.1, i found 4.4.4.1 SUPER buggy.

Thanks for the help, I've tried the above and it's been booting for 10 minutes now, should I wait for it to finish or is it stuck?
Edit: After 30 minutes of booting, I took the battery out. It now won't go past booting (the animated 'X screen') and it takes ages to get past the 'HTC' screen to the boot screen.
Edit 2: I booted into recovery and cleared all caches and fixed permissions and after booting it doesn't say the memory is full! Thanks for your help!
What else did it move and is the data on the first partition of the SD card or the second and can I remove the SD card safely? Any idea how the internal memory was filled and why there were issues with the SD card or if they might appear again? It's a new Samsung Extreme Speed Class 10 16GB Micro SDHC card.

I can't move apps from the SD card to the SD card's second partition or to the internal memory. It says, "pkg: /mnt/asec/appnamehere/pkg.apk Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INSUFFICIENT_STORAGE]".
The internal memory is empty, the SD card has 8GB of free space and the 2nd partition has 1GB free out of 2GB.

Just upgraded to 5.1 and it's the same as above. Any ideas?

Anyone have any idea?

What A2SD-option did you pick in Aroma Installer? I cannot see any Link2SD option there.

Sorry I meant I chose the built-in a2sd but I used this app called Link2SD as I have a second partition on my sd card for apps.

DarkIceGB said:
Sorry I meant I chose the built-in a2sd but I used this app called Link2SD as I have a second partition on my sd card for apps.
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How have you partitioned your SD? Primary and secondary FAT32 or primary FAT32 and secondary EXT? I've never used Link2SD 'cause i prefer the script way, but i think it works the same way.
If you are using EXT for secondary, i recommend you the 4ext recovery, if you are S-OFF you can install it directly from the phone using the Updater form 4ext.net.
Then I suggest you to do:
A nandroid backup
A backup of your SD data
Repartition you SD using 4ext
Check partition allignment with 4ext
Do a full wipe
Restore your SD's backup
Restore your nandroid backup
Re-install 0.5.1 and select built-in a2sd
In rom use terminal like bortak stated, but say NO to moving appdata (slowed down my phone a lot)
Uninstall Link2SD
This will give you a standard installation for a2sd.
If I were in you, i would format everything (except SD card first partition) and start from scratch with the built-in a2sd method without Link2SD; you'll have to reinstall everything and lose every data (backup with TB if you can), but you are sure to run a rock solid method to "enlarge you space"
If you are on double FAT32... well, i cannot help you there
Bortak, correct me if i ever say stupids things i want to help out and you surely are a master in troubleshooting and point to my errors
I'm actually running BCM 3.0U0 + 3.0U1 update with m2sd (with apps and dalvik on ext), 100% V6 supercharged and ScrollingCache patched... i have to say, in my opinion, it finally surpassed Sandvold ICS!

Thanks a lot for the help, I've followed the steps and everything's working now!
I used 4ext recovery, which appears to be a lot better than clockworkmod, with more useful options. 4etx said that the partitions weren't aligned (which I previously set in clockworkmod) so I wiped everything and made fresh partitions which were perfectly aligned. I'm using 0.5.2 now with a full format.
I had/have fat32 then ext4.
I've noticed that most apps don't appear to be on the SD card though. Any advice?

sd-ext full, cant install on internall memory

I have a problem, and i cant manage to solve him, so any help will be apriciated.
I installed Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 Special Edition Stable Version
Problem is that every new app that i install goes diractly to the sd-ext. The partition of sd ext is 512, but after installing ROM it size is down to about 80 mb. So after installing few apps sd ext is full and i get an error. Meanwhille i have about 125 mb free on internal storage!
I tried su
a2sd remove, but it tells a2sd not found!
I`m really lost, tried everything for couple of days, so if anyone can help me, please do so...

This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.

But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?

vnugo said:
But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?
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Sd Ext is "internal memory" - the a2sd etc scripts essentially fool the phone into thinking the sd Ext is part of the internal storage. Therefore increases the data storage for your user apps and is where they will install. This is why you have plenty of internal phone storage, but isn't anything to worry about.
Your actual problem using this Rom is that in common with other later sense Roms, parts of the Rom are also installed to the Sd Ext. This is why the sd Ext size needs to be bigger than 512MB, its filling up because its got parts of Rom plus all your user apps on it.
Sure the Rom thread will recommend what size is, needed. So do a nandroid (include sd Ext if AmonRa recovery), copy sd card contents to pc as backup, repartition using Gparted, copy sd backup back to card, nandroid restore.
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You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.

c90 said:
You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.
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Can you explain it little bit to me? I`m not sure how this works.

Do you mean how the script works or what do you have to do to get the script working?
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what do i have to do to get the script working?

Do a backup (titanium, so that you can copy the backupfiles into your harddrive), and repartition the SD card. 1,5 to 2 Gb should be more than enough. Your problem is the same one I had with MIUI-XJ. Like people have said over, the problem is too little space on the partition. If you want to keep your messages and whatever else, there are apps to backup them as well. So... Yeah, 1,5-2GB of ext4 partition, than rewind.

But my sd card is already partitioned. How can i erase sd-ext, so i can partition it again?

Personaly if it was me id boot into recovery then do a backup then wipe/factory reset, wipe dalvik+cache and partition sdcard again (1gb) atleast, flash rom (install) restore backup. But thats just me
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gomcho said:
This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.
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Woops mist ur post sorry. But i agree
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[Q] Using Link2sd correctly

Hey People,
As the title shows I have some questions about using Link2sd correctly.
First off my phone is rooted and is using a standard VM rom with most of the bloatware already removed and apps2sd built into the rom.
I am only using a 4 gig SD card that has 2 partitions.
In Link2sd SD(/mnt/sdcard) card shows total .97GB and SD Card 2nd Part (/data/sdext2) has total 2.84GB.
I think I have them backwards, should /mnt/sdcard be the larger partition since that is the one I have access to?
And what is the difference between Linking something to the SD card and just moving it to the SD card?
From what I have gathered when something is Linked to the SD card it gets moved to the /data/sdext2.
And if you just move it to the SD card it gets moved to the /mnt/sdcard partition.
When would you choose one over the other?
Thanks

Quick study Links2SD can move any app; A2SD can only move apps written to be moved to SD [/sdcard]. I prefer to use the ext2 or ext3 [/sdext] as much as possible for apps as its a native file system [android is a linux branch after all]. The fat32 can cause longer delays at boot time imo. I believe your partition sizes to be a good choice though. Your fat32 will fill up with nandroids, downloaded roms and mods, music, documents and such before you know it
Hope that helps.
Rob
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I think your ext partition is to big for a 4gb sdcard, you may want to reduce it to 1gb or 2gb if you have plenty of apps. Let me tell you more about this link2sd, app2sd and data2sd so that you will understand better and be able to decide which is suitable for your phone.
As mentioned above, link2sd moves apps to your ext2/ext3/ext4 partition. But not only apps or the apk's, it also moves the dalvik, cache, and library files supporting the apps. The advantage of link2sd is the freedom to choose which of those you want to move. You can easily check or uncheck this options during the linking process.
Native app2sd moves apps to the fat32 partition (/sdcard). And it only moves the apk, leaving cache, dalvik and library files in the internal memory. If you have several applications moved in this manner, a certain portion of your internal memory is still being consumed.
There's also Data2Sd, it creates a link of the entire /data folder and moves everything to the ext partition. Logically speaking, your ext partition becomes your /data partition. The original data partition now becomes a useless space. The advantage of this is the size of your internal memory, which is only limited to the size of your ext partition. But there's also a disadvantage, to use app2sd you need a fast sdcard (category 6 and above is recommended) because everything is now residing on the sdcard which is normally slower than the built-in memory and may result to lagging on some applications.

I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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anhelogr said:
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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I you mean the apps linked into your old sdcard, then do this:
1. Backup all your apps using titanium backup. The backup will be stored in your /sdcard under "TitaniumBackup" folder.
2. Use a card reader to copy that folder to your new sdcard.
3. Insert your new sdcard to your phone, then download and reinstall titanium backup.
It will automatically scan for backup up files in your sdcard and will allow you to restore all your apps.

Ok thanks s I will try this
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Why is link2sd not finding my ext 2 particion ?
Is this because I used cwr to particion my SD card ?
I have made a 2gb ext2 with 512 swap I have linked a lot of apps to SD card but when I get the memory status I get the SD particion not detected
What can I do? The think is that the phone works fine
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2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?

AceRoom said:
2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
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Well the problem is this when I open the link2sd a windows pops up and tells me to choose
Ext2 ext 3 ext 4 fat 32 if I choose ext 2 it say that it can't found the ext2 and I have to do a restart then it finds the ext2 and tells me to restart again if I do not turn the phone off there is no problem but if I turn the phone off at night I have to do this again:banghead: in order for the link2sd to find the ext2 partition if I go to link2sd settings storage use the 2end partition is not available only if I do 2 restarts
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Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.

AceRoom said:
Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
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No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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anhelogr said:
No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
Send using Htc Wildfire S
Rom Wildchild v1.1
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I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,

Tigger31337 said:
I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
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I though the same that the problem is the partition method I use I will try the mini tool
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I found the problem I was selecting ext2 for link2sd but when I use mini tool it said ext3 so I load up again the card start link2sd ext3 reboot and vouala all ok know I really enjoy my phone
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