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Lg optimus g or Note 2

I am thinking of either getting the optimus g or the Samsung Note 2 from Rogers, But my only question is are either of them compatible with Wind mobile. This is the specs from the rogers site.
Connectivity
GSM/EDGE Bands:850/900/1800/1900
HSPA+/HSPA Bands:850/1900/2100
LTE Bands:700/AWS/850/1900
The Note2 has the same specs.
I see it says Aws so I am thinking Yes butr I would like to make sure befor buying.

I have solded note 2 to buy optimus g.
It s more smooth than note 2 because of new screen tech - touch + lcd.
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dantruong460 said:
I have solded note 2 to buy optimus g.
It s more smooth than note 2 because of new screen tech - touch + lcd.
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I have GS3 now, and kind of disappointed with the outdoor screen visibility. How would you compare the Optimus G to Note 2 in that aspect ?

emre1903 said:
I have GS3 now, and kind of disappointed with the outdoor screen visibility. How would you compare the Optimus G to Note 2 in that aspect ?
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sure lg o g is better display when outdoor.
S3 is more smooth than note 2 because of display tech.
NOTE 2 is rgb but when i tested i dont know why but Screen response speed of s3 is better than note 2... => s3 is smooth than note 2. Test this :d
And i dont think note 2's display is better than s3... i like s3 screen than note 2... althought note 2 is less blue/green tint than s3.
S-Pen is very good and new for me. But i think it's not need for me... when i test it about 1 week, i didnt use it more. It only for draw in smartphone but... draw in note 2 is bull sss. :
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The Note II feels exactly like the GSIII, but big. Which is to say good, but the case feels cheap (I've owned the GSIII and a friend has the Note II).
I bought the Optimus G today. The case feels AMAZING. The software is a buggy pile of **** that can't be debloated. I'm returning it tomorrow.

bastardinator said:
The Note II feels exactly like the GSIII, but big. Which is to say good, but the case feels cheap (I've owned the GSIII and a friend has the Note II).
I bought the Optimus G today. The case feels AMAZING. The software is a buggy pile of **** that can't be debloated. I'm returning it tomorrow.
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I'm glad that sprint wont have a ton of bloat lie the att version does.
I played with a note today and the software was extremely slow and unresponsive. Didnt care for it

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I'm glad that sprint wont have a ton of bloat lie the att version does.
I played with a note today and the software was extremely slow and unresponsive. Didnt care for it
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I think in canada rogers version bis going to be like the att with expandable memory and sprint version is going to be bell and telus. What I was wondering is if either the note 2 or optimus g are pentaband phones that can be used on 1700 aws band4? The nexus 4 is which is based on the optimus g but the internal memory is only 8gb or 16gb with no expandable memory is a pentaband and can be used on 1700 aws such as wind mobile in canada aand t mobile is US.

I'll offer up my two cents worth and see if it helps.
On the software front, TW on the Note 2 is what most will consider superior. It seems to add more functionality to the core experience of the phone than LGs UI. LG seems to go with a very minimal approach to skinning. Personally, i like some features and hate others. The biggest thing i cant stand is how the settings menu works in the Optimus. Also, the integration of the S-pen into the UI and apps really does seem to add a lot of functionality. Although, that being said, i haven't spent a large amount of time with my Optimus...Yet.
Hardware, well, that's just as important to me as software, and LG wins hands down in that category (at least that's my opinion). Before i get flamed, I'm not so much talking about internals as i am external. This phone is slick, elegant. It just feels damn good to hold and look at. Its solid and well built, quite honestly the best phone I've handled. Again, that's all personal preference. It has a good weight to it, but not too heavy. Really, just enough to make you feel like you are holding quality. My only gripe is the fact you cant replace that battery, not that i EVER have in any phone ive owned.
The note is a bigger version of the S3 in terms of hardware, and quite honestly, it felt cheap in my hands.
One last thing, and for me, its probably the thing i like most about this phone. I absolutely love the location of the notification LED. Honestly more so because i think it looks great than i think its a practical placement. I just wish it flashed more frequently and longer when there was a notification.

[Q] Looking for a new phone....

Ok - time for my every 20 month question....
It's time for my upgrade.
I'm looking at 3 different devices, and I'd love the considered opinion of the XDA community.
Please try to avoid blatant phanboi posts... LOL
1 - galaxy Note II
2 - Galaxy S III
3 - Optimus G
Yes, I know I'm posting in the LG forum. I have a lot of experience with the galaxy S (EPIC 4g) and love it... but i'm interested in knowing what your thoughts are out there...
Thanks for playing...
John

I switch to the LG after using the Epic 4G Touch for a year. I love samsung phones, but I chose not to get the Note 2 for its size. There was just no way it was going to ever fit in my pockets. The S3 was a bit out of the question for me, because I was not pleased with the specs for the US version. From the S2 to an S3, it just didn't feel like an upgrade. Yes, its a gorgeous phone and it is noticeably faster than the S2 but it just wasn't enough for me to get it. I was a bit skeptical with picking up an LG device because of their previous track record, but the announcement of the Nexus 4 kind of settled that doubt for me. I decided to give it a try, 14-days is enough for me to figure out if I want to keep it or not. So here I am with this solidly built LG phone with the size/specs that I wanted and is rooted with an unlocked bootloader. Yeah, I think I made the right choice.

Are you a part of SWAC or SERO?
SWAC customers, unfortunately, cannot get this phone yet and there's no ETA at all. I've been looking because that is the only thing holding me back from getting it
It's definitely the best choice though.

I also debated between these phones. First knocked off the Galaxy Note because even with its beastly spec and support, I just couldn't deal with how big the screen was, if the screen was just smaller, that probably would have been my phone now.
Then it was between the Galaxy S3 and Optimus G. I came from the OG Epic 4G and either of these phones would have been a huge upgrade for me but I wanted the bleeding edge hardware and spec wise, the Optimus G was better in every way. The only thing that worried me about the Optimus G was the developer support. Since I knew the Nexus 4 was based off the the Optimus G, I figured that AOSP would be easy to get. So i jumped the gun hoping the bootloader will get unlock and it paid off.
I recommend the Optimus G but take it with a grain of salt because I may be bias. It's up to you to decide what you want. I went for the Optimus G for the hardware, you may not care about that as much however and decide the bigger community and developer support is more important.

I am in the same boat as you OP, trying to decide between these 3 phones. Here's my pro/con list so far. FYI I am on SERO-P so I have to upgrade through Sprint.
GS3
pro:
-cheap ($50 on black friday)
-established active community here at XDA
-micro SD slot
con:
-spec is no longer flag ship worthy
Note 2
pro:
-JB
-multi tasking
-active community
-micro SD slot
-it's huge! Screen is nice
con:
-$100 more than other flag ship phones
-s-pen (I personally have no use for it, and when I tested it at a sprint store it wasn't very responsive)
-it's huge! Barely useable with only 1 hand
Optimus G
pro:
-best spec
-best looking (IMO, don't like the pebble look of Samsung)
con:
-it's LG (horrible support)
-no micro SD slot
-dunno how active the community will be for this phone yet

ryocho said:
I am in the same boat as you OP, trying to decide between these 3 phones. Here's my pro/con list so far. FYI I am on SERO-P so I have to upgrade through Sprint.
GS3
pro:
-cheap ($50 on black friday)
-established active community here at XDA
-micro SD slot
con:
-spec is no longer flag ship worthy
Note 2
pro:
-JB
-multi tasking
-active community
-micro SD slot
-it's huge! Screen is nice
con:
-$100 more than other flag ship phones
-s-pen (I personally have no use for it, and when I tested it at a sprint store it wasn't very responsive)
-it's huge! Barely useable with only 1 hand
Optimus G
pro:
-best spec
-best looking (IMO, don't like the pebble look of Samsung)
con:
-it's LG (horrible support)
-no micro SD slot
-dunno how active the community will be for this phone yet
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Say WHAT?? NO micro SD? ****, that settles it for me... I got a 32gb SD card full of music and stuff...and I mean FULL!

Bigjohn_S said:
Say WHAT?? NO micro SD? ****, that settles it for me... I got a 32gb SD card full of music and stuff...and I mean FULL!
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AT&T version has a microSD slot for up to 64GB.
Sprint doesn't.
The Note 2 is awesome if you're a 6-foot-8 NFL linebacker.
SG3 has a darker screen that I don't like, plus amoled displays have potential screen burn-in problems. My wife was gonna get that one but the Sprint store display had horrible burn-in. Big box in the middle and the status bar. It's apparently not a widespread problem but the risk of that and the relative darkness to begin with was enough to turn that one down.
Both of us went for the OG, absolutely love it so far.

I went with the Optimus g. If you go with the galaxy you would already be dealing with last generation cpu which I think for a guy who uses his phone for 20 months is not good. My wife has the note 2 and it's a good phone but a little too big for my suit pants. She carries it in her purse so she doesn't care. One thing I noticed is that this phone is super fast and that's even without jelly bean. This one is the one to choose as of now.
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I'm struggling with this decision too. I actually am still running a Touch Pro 2 on SERO, but I've decided its time to move on. I went to the Sprint Store, looking at the GS3, Optimus G, Photon Q, and Note 2. I had initially thought the keyboard on the Photon Q would be very valuable, but after playing with the other phones I decided the on-screen keyboards were adequate to justify not getting stuck with the otherwise ancient Photon Q. The Note 2 was simply too large. After seeing it, I think the ideal size is probably around 5".
So that brings us to GS3 vs Optimus G. The Optimus is hands down better. The screen is better. The processor is better. The graphics are better. The case is better. It's just plain better. But... it's still running Ice Cream Sandwich, it has no microSD, and it has no removable battery. The lack of MicroSD is a minor annoyance -- at this point in time I don't see why you'd ever need more than 32GB of FLASH, especially since you have the 50GB of DropBox. The lack of a removable battery is bordering on inexcusable. Removable battery means A) if the battery fails you can replace it without replacing the phone, B) if you keep a spare battery around you can extend the life of the phone without recharging, C) the GS3 has extended life/oversized batteries readily available on the aftermarket which are probably twice as large as stock.
I spoke to a sales guy there who had an Optimus G and previously had the EVO 4G LTE and was thrilled with the Optimus -- however he also said numerous "power users" had come in with S3s, and they had all been very happy with them. He said one problem he had encountered with the Optimus because of the quad-core was that you could run a ton of apps in the background and not notice they were all still running and hence drain the battery very quickly.
But the other problem is that the Galaxy S3 has sold over 30M units and is probably still outselling the Optimus G. He said he doubted they'd sell more than 1M Optimus G's, and quite frankly by early 2013 there will be better phones out, including the Galaxy S4 -- which will effectively kill off the Optimus G. The lack of a user base puts support (including future software updates) in doubt in my mind, especially since LG does not have a good reputation to begin with (the sales guy said he was at the release event and said LG did everything they could to assure everyone that they understood this was their first high end phone and that they needed to provide superior support along with it, something they had not previously done).
The $50 "BF" deal also tends to push me to GS3, especially if there is no discount on the Optimus G. OTOH, the Optimus G is a sweet phone, and GS3 is a few months old at this point.

hpmaxim said:
I'm struggling with this decision too. I actually am still running a Touch Pro 2 on SERO, but I've decided its time to move on. I went to the Sprint Store, looking at the GS3, Optimus G, Photon Q, and Note 2. I had initially thought the keyboard on the Photon Q would be very valuable, but after playing with the other phones I decided the on-screen keyboards were adequate to justify not getting stuck with the otherwise ancient Photon Q. The Note 2 was simply too large. After seeing it, I think the ideal size is probably around 5".
So that brings us to GS3 vs Optimus G. The Optimus is hands down better. The screen is better. The processor is better. The graphics are better. The case is better. It's just plain better. But... it's still running Ice Cream Sandwich, it has no microSD, and it has no removable battery. The lack of MicroSD is a minor annoyance -- at this point in time I don't see why you'd ever need more than 32GB of FLASH, especially since you have the 50GB of DropBox. The lack of a removable battery is bordering on inexcusable. Removable battery means A) if the battery fails you can replace it without replacing the phone, B) if you keep a spare battery around you can extend the life of the phone without recharging, C) the GS3 has extended life/oversized batteries readily available on the aftermarket which are probably twice as large as stock.
I spoke to a sales guy there who had an Optimus G and previously had the EVO 4G LTE and was thrilled with the Optimus -- however he also said numerous "power users" had come in with S3s, and they had all been very happy with them. He said one problem he had encountered with the Optimus because of the quad-core was that you could run a ton of apps in the background and not notice they were all still running and hence drain the battery very quickly.
But the other problem is that the Galaxy S3 has sold over 30M units and is probably still outselling the Optimus G. He said he doubted they'd sell more than 1M Optimus G's, and quite frankly by early 2013 there will be better phones out, including the Galaxy S4 -- which will effectively kill off the Optimus G. The lack of a user base puts support (including future software updates) in doubt in my mind, especially since LG does not have a good reputation to begin with (the sales guy said he was at the release event and said LG did everything they could to assure everyone that they understood this was their first high end phone and that they needed to provide superior support along with it, something they had not previously done).
The $50 "BF" deal also tends to push me to GS3, especially if there is no discount on the Optimus G. OTOH, the Optimus G is a sweet phone, and GS3 is a few months old at this point.
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Wow, HTC TP2? I too have a SERO plan, but its totally worth it to fork over the extra dough ($20 extra/month) for ANY android phone. Even the Kyocera Echo. Still the best possible unlimited plan out there (sans any kind of family plan with 58 phones on the plan).
In any case - yes, its the same old question of locked vs. unlocked bootloaders and whether or not devs will jump on board...but I will say - As is, ICS absolutely FLIES on this device. I'm perfectly happy with the stock feel until the devs (surely fewer than Samsung/HTC atm) iron out all the kinks. Once that happens, I'll do the flash dance and feel like I have a new phone...all over again :laugh:

I'm in the same position - the Optimus G or the Galaxy S3. I'm leaning heavily toward the G right now due to the better internals. Porting 4.2 to it shouldn't be that hard of a chore. The lack of a micro SD shouldn't be that inconvenient because hopefully someone will make USB OTG support so we can just plug in flash drives whenever we need extra space on the spur. I'm really annoyed because I would get the S4 if I could but I can't wait until February as the phone is supposed to be a gift for me for the holidays.

TechNinja49 said:
I'm in the same position - the Optimus G or the Galaxy S3. I'm leaning heavily toward the G right now due to the better internals. Porting 4.2 to it shouldn't be that hard of a chore. The lack of a micro SD shouldn't be that inconvenient because hopefully someone will make USB OTG support so we can just plug in flash drives whenever we need extra space on the spur. I'm really annoyed because I would get the S4 if I could but I can't wait until February as the phone is supposed to be a gift for me for the holidays.
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I just had a chat with a friend of mine and asked him the same question. His response was: "I really like the Note 2." When I pointed out that was a little too large, he said: "Well, I just ordered the Nexus 4, but the Galaxy S3 is probably fine." I pointed out that the Nexus 4 is a stripped down Optimus G, which is essentially a Nexus 4 + LTE, but its been adulterated by LG of course. He claimed the Nexus 4 battery was replaceable, it was a separate unit, held in by some small Torx screws. So replacing the battery shouldn't be a big deal. He thought the lack of MicroSD was a non-issue. His primary complaint was its LGism.
But here's the rub... and its exactly what you said. "I'm really annoyed because I would get the S4 if I could but I can't wait until February." As soon as the GS4 comes out, no one will buy the Optimus G. And everyone knows its coming out. So the only support for the Optimus are going to be the small number of people who are buying it between mid-November and March who can't hold out for the GS4. I had hoped that porting 4.2 would be pretty trivial, afterall the Nexus 4 runs it, and its virtually the same phone -- but I'm not so convinced. I'm not going to port it, and there's not going to be a huge number of people who will have the phone who have the skills to port it.

The Galaxy S3 came out in April didn't it? That is a long time from now.

Go to your wireless store and pick up an Optimus g. Use it for 10 days. Go back to the store and switch it out to galaxy s3. You will most likely get frustrated from the lag of the s3, and switch back.
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Bigjohn_S said:
Say WHAT?? NO micro SD? ****, that settles it for me... I got a 32gb SD card full of music and stuff...and I mean FULL!
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+1 this made my decision between this and HTC Evo 4G LTE easy.

Man, am I torn. Really Really torn.
I'll probably end up with the GSIII, though because I like FLASH on my browser, running 4.0.x don't bug me at all...
Thanks for all the comments... all good points and very valuable.

Bigjohn_S said:
Man, am I torn. Really Really torn.
I'll probably end up with the GSIII, though because I like FLASH on my browser, running 4.0.x don't bug me at all...
Thanks for all the comments... all good points and very valuable.
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The S3 is now on jelly bean, which doesn't support flash. The Optimus G currently supports it since it's still on ice cream sandwich but a JB update is coming soon. So, flash really shouldn't be a factor here. You're going to lose it with either phone.
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I just upgraded to the LG O.G. through Amazon for $100. It's still $199 on Sprint's website, fyi

Wait so you're telling me with jellybean I won't be able stream sports or play flash even if I sideload the app ? Say it ain't so I don't wanna own a LG iphone
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ackNalej said:
I just upgraded to the LG O.G. through Amazon for $100. It's still $199 on Sprint's website, fyi
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Also at best buy for that through tomorrow, thinking going to try it out otherwise back to my EVO 3d, radio strength and development will be key over next few weeks. Tried LTE on release day and download speeds half of my 3d...lol, it was returned though loved it.
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Get Samsung galaxy nexus for wife or not?

My wife got her first smartphone about 8 months ago. got the samsung stratosphere. had it for about 2 months until I got the samsung galaxy S3 at which point she wanted my rooted thunderbolt. The thunderbolt has gotten very laggy no matter which Rom I throw on there. CleanRom worked well for about a week and then it started its usual lack of performance. When I first got it, it was snappy, quick and smooth. Now it just isn't and i dont know why since I'm doing a clean factory wipe with CWM. She is getting tired of me tinkering around with it trying to get it to perform well. Wants a new phone and is thinking the incredible 4g, razr M or the samsung galaxy nexus.
wanted to see what people thought, who have the galaxy nexus. Would you recommend it again or would you rather go with a newer phone like the Dinc 4g or razr m?

No regrets here. You can never go wrong with Pure Google, and with third-party ROMs you always have the latest Android version before, well especially before the Dinc 4G or RAZR M.
I wouldn't say there's much difference between 5MP and 8MP, and the only reason I'd go for either of the other two phones is for SD storage, which even now I'm losing interest in, but it's nice to have that stuff somewhere separate from the phone.
Plus, I am pretty sure the GalNex is the cheapest, on or off contract..
As far as famous issues go, no inductive charging (come on even the Thunderbolt had that), Micro USB port tends to fail, but that's kind of an all-phone sort of thing IMO, and of course AMOLED screen burn-in. All are nominal issues considering they happen typically after at least a year of use.
My 2.
Good luck!
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I had the g2 then the g2x and now the gnex. I personally think this is still one of the best phone around, hands down. Direct Google updates, unlocked (can use any gsm carrier prepaid or postpaid), great screen and decent pics. The developer support will be continuous until the hardware can no longer support the os. Money wise, its the cheapest high end smart phone you can get, period (and I don't think this phone is "cheap", its hardware is great and handles everything I throw at it).
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I noticed your on Verizon, slow updates through Verizon, but the development community will provide those... Plus you can get a 32gb as compared to the gsm 16gb.
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I would just get her an iphone that way she can have something that works properly most of the time while you have your android device to play with. It works for me.:good:

woody296 said:
I would just get her an iphone that way she can have something that works properly most of the time while you have your android device to play with. It works for me.:good:
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Isheep? haha kidding! I nexus would be good for her, it's easy to use, fast, and comes with some good jellybeans!
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For something that "just works" with minimal effort the iDerp is the way to go.

Android can be laggy when "external" SD Card memory size is full, e.g. if 16GB SD Card have only 1GB free memory. makes Android slower..
by doing full Wipe, data factory reset then it should be much faster..
Galaxy Nexus's battery life is not so good so it's better to use older Android phone if wants phone with good battery life...

I'll put it like this. i have had several phones of all brands and companies i just had the nexus 4 sold it. i have the s3.it sits on my desk. The note 2 is hooked to a TV in the guest room for streaming. all the phones I have and have i come back to the nexus. i chose to make it my main driver. i don't even swap sims anymore. Galaxy nexus just works. and we have great devs that make things work even better. and help out. do that on a iPhone. also as
Sd storage is a thing of the past. cloud storage is here.. and it's fast. Anyway nexus gsm with a year straight talk plan works fine for me.. well great actually.. even with Verizon i wouldn't get any other phone. especially since i seen in my area Verizon offering then free or 50 bucks on contract.. roll with it.
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The op asked, i gave my answer. Ya give her an iphone and then nobody here will be tempted to screw with it and mess it up. All her friends will say "Oh it's an iphone, how nice!". Otherwise let her shop for an android phone and pick out what she wants, all the top phones are pretty solid. Obviously the s3 is the hot phone now, but for some it's a little large.

She has the Thunderbolt? Good god, man. You're just asking for all kinds of trouble there. You don't give a woman a Thunderbolt. Even men can't stand that phone.
For a woman, you need a trouble-free phone like the:
-Galaxy S3
-Galaxy Note 2 (women actually like it a lot and have more reason to use it because they carry a purse or bag)
-iPhone 5
-Nokia Lumia 920
Seriously. These are the only phones women actually enjoy using. The Nexus is great but its more for geeks than ladies.

Get her a white Gnex, turn it into a takju with a clean flash of the 4.2.1 factory image and you're good to go. Hassle free stock software from then on...

neovdr said:
Get her a white Gnex, turn it into a takju with a clean flash of the 4.2.1 factory image and you're good to go. Hassle free stock software from then on...
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She's going to complain about the battery life. He should NOT get the Nexus for a woman. I'm being serious here. The other phones I suggested are much better for a woman. You guys keep assuming that women will like what you like. They don't. They're very different. You don't give a woman a phone with any big flaws, and the big flaw with the Galaxy Nexus is battery life.

I say get her the Galaxy Note2 my wife saw it the other day and was like damn I should've waited and got that instead of the iPhone(she got her iPhone a week before note 2 came out)
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Ep3n3wp said:
I say get her the Galaxy Note2 my wife saw it the other day and was like damn I should've waited and got that instead of the iPhone(she got her iPhone a week before note 2 came out)
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Yep. Women love the Galaxy Note 2 more than men do, seemingly. It's like the size of a paperback book or personal organizer that women carry around in their purse. If they can do everything on a device like that, they're happy, and the battery life on it is amazing.
Hell, I'm probably going to get the Galaxy Note 3 next year if Google screws up again and makes yet another glass-backed Nexus phone.

thank you all for the replies. I was not expecting for there to be so many just night.
The other thing I needed to mention is that she does NOT want to spend much. I would love her to have the S3 like I do but she wont spend the money to get it. This is why she was looking into the incredible 4g or moto razr m. both are $49 currently.

If money eliminates the note2, go with the nexus. I got it cheap and got the Samsung extended battery. I have no problem getting almost a full day with moderate usage. If I am at work, it goes in airplane mode between breaks. After work I still have almost a full charge. And the phone charges FAST! I have no complaints. With 2 GS2's and a GS3 in the family, my gnex still has the best performance and least issues of all.
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On the subject of battery life I'm going to add that my stock battery gsm gnex gets better battery life than any android phone I've previously owned or handled.
But based on the reports of battery life with lte I would possibly agree with cadude the Verizon nexus might not be the best choice. I don't know though, maybe it's no different than any other lte equipped phone. I've always used gsm.
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I bought GNex for my girlfriend and she loves it. Stock Android is rock stable and super fast. She won't change it for any other phone. Until I get her Nexus 4, maybe?

If you hated the battery life on the Bolt you will hate the VZW Galaxy Nexus more. I went from one to the other last year and u was surprised, I though the bolt had the worst battery of them all.
Otherwise here's my .02 -
If you want to extend/new contract - you cannot go wrong with an S3. Great battery life, expandable memory and Touchwiz 's no tinkering to get great features aspect are great selling points to people who don't want to tinker with the phone.. My wife is a perfect example Lol. Not to mention the camera is 2nd to none on android devices now.
If you don't want a contract I would get a used VZW Nexus. Deal with the battery for a great price.
If your wife wants a smaller device - get the RAZR M. Its quite an amazing little device. All the power/specs of the S3 in a handy little package. I've heard it has great battery too
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1Android said:
thank you all for the replies. I was not expecting for there to be so many just night.
The other thing I needed to mention is that she does NOT want to spend much. I would love her to have the S3 like I do but she wont spend the money to get it. This is why she was looking into the incredible 4g or moto razr m. both are $49 currently.
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Ok so you're on Verizon. Trust me, a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon is TERRIBLE. You simply do NOT want that phone. She will definitely complain about the battery because the LTE drains even more on a Verizon Gnex than a GSM Gnex.
Good news for you though! You can upgrade on your Verizon account with Amazon Wireless, and they'll give you another Samsung Galaxy S3 for $99.99 which isn't much more than 50 bucks and the same price as the Verizon Gnex from the Verizon store.
http://wireless.amazon.com/Samsung-...=INDIVIDUAL_NEW&sr=1-1-entd&qid=1355933336314

What made YOU choose S4?

What made you choose this device instead of others? Will you select your next smartphone based on the same criteria or do you care more about some other spec?
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I'm a Samsung fan boy, I've liked Samsung as long as I can remember and it was a shame I was never able to get a Samsung phone, I wanted the sgs1 but got the Evo instead, wanted to upgrade to the sgs2 but samsung wouldn't announce when it would come out and ended up getting a Motorola phone, and when the sgs3 came out I was broke... now come the SGS4 around, I bought it on launch day and it came to me the 30th I was really really happy... I'm going to get every reiteration of the phone as long as my pockets allow it...
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I've been using iphones since it first released. Iphone2g, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs, iphone 4 then iphone 4s.
Over the years, I've grown tired of apple locking their firmwares to limit user customization; and the only way around was to jailbreak- a major pain in the behind. So the first reason is ease of personal customization.
Second, the screen size and ppi.
Third, the option to expand memory and switch battery.
And lastly, the popularity of S3.

a few reasons actually :
1) expandable storage
2) removable battery
3) community/developer support
a) why I picked Snapdragon > Exynos
4) Generally positive experience from past Samsung purchases. I've owned a few HTC devices and felt really burned in the past by how poorly they support their products in the long-term, haven't heard many good things about LG (other than the Nexus 4). Although I like Apple's stuff, and own an iPod I like Android's openness and flexibility to switch between Stock and AOSP

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This was my very first smartphone purchase, so I had to weigh all the factors. In the end, I went with the S4 because....
-It has removable/expandable memory. I plan on using my phone for a LOT of media consumption, and depending on the cloud to store all my stuff won't do it for me since I'm going to use T-Mobile on a 5GB/month data plan. Spotty coverage and limited data means cutting down on cloud usage.
-Removable battery. I figure carrying a spare battery ensures I can go a whole day of heavily using all these awesome phone features and apps without worrying about getting tied back down to a wall outlet.
-Better hardware like the CPU, RAM, Camera (for the most part it seems), and sensors.
-More software features. I can't wait to try out stuff like dual-shot and air view!
-The S4 has Mobeam, which should ensure I can largely replace my wallet and a lot of physical membership cards and just use the IR on my phone to purchase items and get discounts.
-It has a bigger screen while still maintaining a fairly small profile and a high pixel density.
-I prefer AMOLED/OLED to LCD on my TV's. All the issues not withstanding, I love the contrast ratios, the rich colors, and the saturation. It makes watching movies a blast. So I'll naturally prefer the same on the phone.
-From all the video reviews and articles I read, I think I'll end up preferring TouchWiz to sense. Once I use the fixes people have posted here and elsewhere to clear up the lag, the phone should be snappy. It will probably feel really snappy to me anyway since I've never owned a smartphone before.
Overall, as someone who is just entering the big boy league of the mobile phone market, it seems I couldn't have arrived at a better time. The S4 seems like the device for me to start with. If it turns out to be all that and more, I could see myself getting an S5 or whatever is the big kahuna next year.
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And I actually just got my S4 today and I'm completely blown away. I've been busy downloading apps on my home wi-fi and playing with the device most of the day. I feel like a caveman who just discovered my first computer.

For me, its just has swag!
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1) Expandable battery. After having an extended battery on my GS2, I can't fathom having a phone that I really have to hope can last all day.
2) Even with custom ROMs, hearing all the crap HTC owners had to deal was a major negative due to lack of support from HTC.
I really wish I could get those awesome speakers on the GS4 though.

thehelios said:
1) Expandable battery. After having an extended battery on my GS2, I can't fathom having a phone that I really have to hope can last all day.
2) Even with custom ROMs, hearing all the crap HTC owners had to deal was a major negative due to lack of support from HTC.
I really wish I could get those awesome speakers on the GS4 though.
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Yup same reasons and same regret also
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I've had HTC phones up until now and I've been pretty happy with them.
I've had to replace the battery in my EVO 3D, as well as my wife's Mytouch 4G. So, for me, a removable battery is a really important feature. Also, I wanted to have expandable storage and put large apps and pics on the SD card, so the S4 won easily over the HTC One.
The aluminum body of the One does nothing for me...I put a case on every phone I own anyway. But the One's speakers seem nice.
For my next smartphone, I think I'll still look for the same things.

I switch to the s4 because T Mobile gave it to me absolutely free no $20 a month fee completely free. I had to complain to retention quite a bit because I was having issues with my galaxy s2 and they caved in and said I'll go ahead and give you one for having so many issues with your phone and I don't want to lose your business.
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Spastic909 said:
I switch to the s4 because T Mobile gave it to me absolutely free no $20 a month fee completely free. I had to complain to retention quite a bit because I was having issues with my galaxy s2 and they caved in and said I'll go ahead and give you one for having so many issues with your phone and I don't want to lose your business.
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Dude, teach me lol. I tried doing that when the S3 came out because I was having a lot of problems with my s2 but all i got was a credit lol
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got mine s4 just because i wanted to get a new phone, and i wanted to switch to unlimited data plan.. i was thinking first of getting xperia Z (about $525 cash) but there was some complaints about earpiece volume from users, so i decided to get a contract tmobile with S4
Basically the loudness of earpiece of Xperia Z made me choose the S4.. (i had an Xperia ION and earpiece on this phone was horrible, i could not hear anyone in loud places... )

Basically I got sick of HTC and sense.

Nexus 6 or Note 4 off topic

I know this is G Pro thread but one day all of us will get another phone. The G pro has been a awesome device. The best phone I have ever had. But I want a new one. So I want the Nexus 6 or Note 4. I am asking yall which one. Yalls advice would be appreciated. I am stuck on deciding both are good. I went into att and looked at both. The note 4 has all the bells and whistles. The nexus 6 is big I like. The Nexus will get all the updates first. The Note 4 will not which really does not matter since we root and flash our phones. I would love to hear yalls input on this thanks.

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I know this is G Pro thread but one day all of us will get another phone. The G pro has been a awesome device. The best phone I have ever had. But I want a new one. So I want the Nexus 6 or Note 4. I am asking yall which one. Yalls advice would be appreciated. I am stuck on deciding both are good. I went into att and looked at both. The note 4 has all the bells and whistles. The nexus 6 is big I like. The Nexus will get all the updates first. The Note 4 will not which really does not matter since we root and flash our phones. I would love to hear yalls input on this thanks.
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i feel the need to get another phone myself, been thinking on the note 3 before im not able to get from att, and the final price of these phones are getting rediculous, i paid 389 for the g pro, the note 4 is 825! nexus 6 on att 683, my dilemma is note 3 is 699 final and a lil outdated to some, but i have to do the next plan on att so its a matter of how much im willing to spend in taxes. i dont have the money to drop these prices on the phone outright so att being my carrier gotta go with what ya can afford. have an expensive phone and drive a rollscanhardly or save some loot and drive a spark..... decisions decisions! 825 for the note 4! that damn thing better read my mind, play ps4 and xbox games, and get me high at the same time. oh and make bacon too

Note 4 the way to go
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I'm staying
I am staying with the g pro I'm not changing phone till there no more custom roms left. There some people that don't even have smartphone.

I'll be staying with the OGP till there are quality 64-bit devices worth buying.
If I had to choose today between the nexus 6 and the note 4, I would take the Nate 4 due to:
1. Screen quality
2. Better battery life
3. Removable battery
4. SD
5. S-pen, adds some benefits
Nexus 6 is about the development community more than anything though, there should be plenty of community support for the note 4 as well.

LG G Pro 2
Nuff said.

phatmanxxl said:
LG G Pro 2
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Not released in the US
and not much, last time I checked, happening for development, though a very good device.

capnloo said:
i feel the need to get another phone myself, been thinking on the note 3 before im not able to get from att, and the final price of these phones are getting rediculous, i paid 389 for the g pro, the note 4 is 825! nexus 6 on att 683, my dilemma is note 3 is 699 final and a lil outdated to some, but i have to do the next plan on att so its a matter of how much im willing to spend in taxes. i dont have the money to drop these prices on the phone outright so att being my carrier gotta go with what ya can afford. have an expensive phone and drive a rollscanhardly or save some loot and drive a spark..... decisions decisions! 825 for the note 4! that damn thing better read my mind, play ps4 and xbox games, and get me high at the same time. oh and make bacon too
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Did you see the new lg g 3 Vista? It is 5.7 in and it is only 375$. I mean it's not the best but it looks like a good phone. Check it out

I'd rather get 1+1 if price is a problem. Nexus 6 and Note 4 aren't very smooth (some reviews said so). Maybe because the QHD screen. And if I want a new phone, I want it to have no lag at all.
Xperia Z3 Compact is very alluring, 801 with 720p. The battery is very good too. But the screen is smaller and that might become a problem for you. I'll definitely get this device if I can't get the 1+1.
If you want to wait though, device with snapdragon 810 is around the corner (february?). Rumor also said 1+2 will be coming soon.

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I'll be staying with the OGP till there are quality 64-bit devices worth buying.
If I had to choose today between the nexus 6 and the note 4, I would take the Nate 4 due to:
1. Screen quality
2. Better battery life
3. Removable battery
4. SD
5. S-pen, adds some benefits
Nexus 6 is about the development community more than anything though, there should be plenty of community support for the note 4 as well.
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love those features!
note 4 has physical button to wake, it's a plus unless you have the double tap to wake.

The external SD card is a nice feature on any phone. But no devices get supported in an official way like nexus devices, both vanilla Android from Google and the various roms from the developer community both end up supporting the devices real well.

That's one of the reasons why I am leaning towards the nexus 6 because of development and updates. But that note 4 does have some cool stuff. Someone mentioned the 1+1 when that phone came out I was all on it. Thinking this is great high specs cheap price. Then they pulled this invite crap. They lost me good luck still trying to get one.

I would suggest to wait till almost quarter of next year (2015). You would see some 64 bit devices coming to the smartphone market.
At present I don't think one should spent so much money on Nexus 6 or Note 4 or even Z3.
They are all 32 bit, probably you might not notice a drastic change in you experience moving to any of these device.
Wait for 64 bit chips Snapdragon 808 or 810, wait for 4k screens coming next year.
Waiting now shall prove fruitful for you.
For now I have sold my GPro and bought a used Nexus 5 device, pretty, doing this is pretty common here.
I did not go for a new expensive phone for all the reason I just gave.

How about a G Flex?
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vivebatu said:
How about a G Flex?
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I liked that phone when it came out but was disappointed in the screen resolution. That phone is still just as expensive as the others.

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I liked that phone when it came out but was disappointed in the screen resolution. That phone is still just as expensive as the others.
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IMHO I basically see no 'usable' difference between 720p and 1080p. But that is just my view.
Further a new G Flex is now available for around $300-350, while a note 4 will cost almost double of that, so you could save tons of money for sure
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vivebatu said:
IMHO I basically see no 'usable' difference between 720p and 1080p. But that is just my view.
Further a new G Flex is now available for around $300-350, while a note 4 will cost almost double of that, so you could save tons of money for sure
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I was in att about 2 months ago a d the flex was the same price it was when it came out. But that's att they are always high. But I want a phone with real good development. I have not looked at the flex development might check it out thanks for your input I appreciate it.