UPDATE: Focal apk landed in the play store as a beta, link to play store:
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FxBSX8mx0c
Can I install with JWR66V??? 4.3 stock??? And it will remplace the stock camera???
aleespa said:
Can I install with JWR66V??? 4.3 stock??? And it will remplace the stock camera???
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Im using 4.2, try it, no it wont replace it, its a separate app :laugh:
Works fine front camera doesn't work (android 4.3)
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The facing camera works but sometimes it makes force close!
Gave it a whirl on the latest 10.1.2. Got some force closes as well, and odd behavior. Sometimes when starting up Focal, the torch turns on and stays on, with just a black screen. Backing out causes a force close. It's a nice app but I think it could use some refinement, especially the menus. I'm sure they'll keep on improving it.
One hell of a camera. Can't wait to see it work I perfect in an official cm mako 4.3 build.
It's good to be nexus.
Front facing works for me.
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My first impression is that the framerate is significantly lower than with the stock camera - making for an overall sluggish experience.
Some random impressions while checking out its features:
- the Photosphere feature looks like a quick addition/afterthought, as the 'dots' you have to connect are just jagged sprites/images, instead of smooth circles - perhaps not that important functionality-wise, but it looks sloppy to me.
- The interface might work after a while of practice, but for now it forces me to hunt around for options too much - the ability to open more than one 'toggle group', seems more like a necessity (so that I can find the option I want) than a feature I'd use after I know where each toggle can be found (I compare it to finding a file on my computer, I know where each file/folder is, partly due to descriptive names and a clear structure. But if I needed to find something fast, I would not open all the folders until I found the file, I would just use a search function).
And I too have had the forced closes, black screen when opening it until I close the process, but that I can forgive of an... alpha-quality release.
I'm on stock 4.3 if that makes any difference.
naenee said:
My first impression is that the framerate is significantly lower than with the stock camera - making for an overall sluggish experience.
Some random impressions while checking out its features:
- the Photosphere feature looks like a quick addition/afterthought, as the 'dots' you have to connect are just jagged sprites/images, instead of smooth circles - perhaps not that important functionality-wise, but it looks sloppy to me.
- The interface might work after a while of practice, but for now it forces me to hunt around for options too much - the ability to open more than one 'toggle group', seems more like a necessity (so that I can find the option I want) than a feature I'd use after I know where each toggle can be found (I compare it to finding a file on my computer, I know where each file/folder is, partly due to descriptive names and a clear structure. But if I needed to find something fast, I would not open all the folders until I found the file, I would just use a search function).
And I too have had the forced closes, black screen when opening it until I close the process, but that I can forgive of an... alpha-quality release.
I'm on stock 4.3 if that makes any difference.
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It's alpha, sure, and it won't be in mainline CM for a while, but it's brilliant. This is more of a functional mockup than a daily use cam. Can't wait for the final release and next things to come in CM!
Well, I will keep an eye on it, but I myself will hold off on calling it rubbish/brilliant (or anything in between) until a later release
I love the app, the way everything is set up. I am having issues (on 4.3) with force closes, and my N4 restarted twice - once after tapping on a color option, and again when I tried to switch to Picsphere mode. But not again after the first two times.
It's crazy quick when snapping (non-HDR) pics, and I'm a sucker for nice animations, so I love the one this camera has. I really, really cannot wait until a beta, then a full, release is available. It's certainly heading in the right direction!
Works on 4.3 running cm 10.2 (JWR66V)
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In 4.3 stock works, but I don't like too much. But it's an alpha, so Focal is a good start
I thought it would be a bit faster but it seems a little laggy but I love to get my hands on this kind of projects that look so promising
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Surely this is the first step of many new things we'll begin to see for our devices and be able to get even more out of them than we thought we could
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Focal is pretty cool. Two things I noticed tho, one is that it doesn't play nice with Halo. If I opened focal with Halo active, it started snapping pics nonstop soon as it launched.
And two, its a RAM hog.
With Focal
W/O Focal
Other than that, it ran well. No FC's and what not.
Thanks for the hu.
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This is the only free camera app that won't crop the 4:3 image to fit our 15:9 screen ratios. I don't know if you can toggle it to do so, but I don't really care for cropping in the viewfinder.
Whom do I direct my comments since OP has no affiliation with the CyanogenMod team? If they are going to use black bars, then they might as well have a bevy of persistent settings; rather than having to tap multiple times to achieve minute adjustments. Further, I don't understand why this app isn't called CMera. Please call it CMera.
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And two, its a RAM hog.
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I agree that CMera does not play well with HALO, but I don't agree with your second comment. Your screen caps show a very vague idea of what is actually eating your RAM. It might have something to do with the three simultaneous downloads/downloaded files (which might also be app updates) in your notification bar.
Results; and Why You're Always Wrong and I'm Always Right
For a slightly more rigorous exploration of RAM usage for the app CMera, refer to Figure 1. Strangely, the app in question is only visible in Cached Processes, not Running Services. Both apps were open simultaneously and could be swapped in and out of activity with no lag in launch or usage.
Figure 1
For even more rigorously collected evidence, please refer to Figure 2. Upon a fresh boot, my device had 1241MB of RAM unused.
Figure 2
Following three photos (8MP, 100 quality) and a precisely 60 sec video (1080p, 20 Gbps, 192 kbps audio), my device dropped to 1187MB of unused RAM (Figure 3).
This is a difference of (1241MB - 1187MB =) 54MB. No where close to the (680MB - 197MB =) 487MB purported by BlackElvis79's screen caps
Figure 3
Conclusions: What Does This Mean to America's Youth?
From the evidence gathered, the most reasonable conclusion is that BlackElvis79 is a poopyhead.
Source(s): Original Screen Caps and Cropped for Her Pleasure
Is there a tutorial on what all these settings do? There are so many... Lol. And I don't know what half of them are...
Also on a side note when will we know when it's no longer Alpha? Will it be built into the roms or something?
I'm so excited about this... My wife has been boasting her Galaxy S4 camera for awhile.. Lol. Isn't there supposed to be a slow motion video?
*Edit* I seem to have a buginess with the video. Running PAC Man version 23.0.0. It force closes sometimes for no apparent reason.
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Hung0702 said:
This is the only free camera app that won't crop the 4:3 image to fit our 15:9 screen ratios. I don't know if you can toggle it to do so, but I don't really care for cropping in the viewfinder.
Whom do I direct my comments since OP has no affiliation with the CyanogenMod team? If they are going to use black bars, then they might as well have a bevy of persistent settings; rather than having to tap multiple times to achieve minute adjustments. Further, I don't understand why this app isn't called CMera. Please call it CMera.
Introduction: Half-assed truths
I agree that CMera does not play well with HALO, but I don't agree with your second comment. Your screen caps show a very vague idea of what is actually eating your RAM. It might have something to do with the three simultaneous downloads/downloaded files (which might also be app updates) in your notification bar.
Results; and Why You're Always Wrong and I'm Always Right
For a slightly more rigorous exploration of RAM usage for the app CMera, refer to Figure 1. Strangely, the app in question is only visible in Cached Processes, not Running Services. Both apps were open simultaneously and could be swap in and out of activity with no lag in launch or usage.
Figure 1
For even more rigorously collected evidence, please refer to Figure 2. Upon a fresh boot, my device had 1241MB of RAM unused.
Figure 2
Following three photos (8MP, 100 quality) and a precisely 60 sec video (1080p, 20 Gbps, 192 kbps audio), my device dropped to 1187MB of unused RAM (Figure 3).
This is a difference of (1241MB - 1187MB =) 54MB. No where close to the (680MB - 197MB =) 487MB purported by BlackElvis79's screen caps
Figure 3
Conclusions: What Does This Mean to America's Youth?
From the evidence gathered, the most reasonable conclusion is that BlackElvis79 is a poopyhead.
Source(s): Original Screen Caps and Cropped for Her Pleasure
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I went thru all apps that I'd installed since installing Focal. I uninstalled them one by one and still had extremely low RAM with no running apps. I uninstalled Focal last, cuz it was the first installed, and suddenly my RAM was back to normal. I didn't think it would need that much of an explanation, my apologies, but thank you for your creative and entertaining response.
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jcnbama said:
Is there a tutorial on what all these settings do? There are so many... Lol. And I don't know what half of them are...
Also on a side note when will we know when it's no longer Alpha? Will it be built into the roms or something?
I'm so excited about this... My wife has been boasting her Galaxy S4 camera for awhile.. Lol. Isn't there supposed to be a slow motion video?
*Edit* I seem to have a buginess with the video. Running PAC Man version 23.0.0. It force closes sometimes for no apparent reason.
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I´ll try to make a list with all the options it has or even better I´ll contact CM team to have the info from first hand :laugh:
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don't know about you, but for me all settings in the camera seem to be in the wrong place:
why are touch capture and resolution in the top menu
why is macro not in the scenes menu
for me in the top menu there should be
Capturing mode
scenes
flash
Focus
Exposure
i tried vignette demo but i'm not yet sure if i like it better ;-)
Camera 360 = awesome.
Yeah Camera 360 is awesome.
Well I found Camera X really great
Features
1. Flash Mode(Off, Auto, Red-Eye, Torch)
2. Color Modes(Mono, Negative, Posterize, Sepia, Solarize)
3. White Balance(Auto, Cloudy daylight, Daylight, Flouroscent, Incandescent)
4. Exposure Control(-1.9999979 to 1.6652)
5. Scenes(Auto, Barcode, Beach, Landscape, Night, Night-Potrait, Party, Potrait, Snow, Sports)
6. Focus(Auto, Continuous-video, Fixed, Infinity, Macro)
7. Camera Modes(Normal, Self-Timer, Time-Lapse, Anti-Shake, Bracketing, Burst)
8. Settings(lot more things)
Do you guys know that you can move each setting around?...
just expand the menu, tap+hold the one you want and drag to the top menu...
Oh wow! Awesome.
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Is there any Android camera UI better than Arc's??? Ofcourse NOT! It is great!!
If it isn't because battery drain and scalability problem, I would've use stock camera app. Because there's no other camera app in the market that bring you to preview in gallery (so that you can zoom in to check whether the picture blurry or not)
What's with the camera app and battery/scalability anyway? Is there proof to its connection or is it some sort of an urban legend? Was that "invented" to discredit the wonderful camera the arc has to offer?
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What's with the camera app and battery/scalability anyway? Is there proof to its connection or is it some sort of an urban legend? Was that "invented" to discredit the wonderful camera the arc has to offer?
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1. Battery drain - you'll stuck with 20mA drain as opposed to 5mA drain during idle after taking picture with stock camera app and not rebooting your phone. Check out battery drain thread on Xperia Arc general forum. Look at the last couple pages.
2. Scalability - If you change your LCD density from 240 (default) to 180 or some other (smaller) number, the UI won't resize appropriately. Camera 360 exhibit this problem, but not Vignette.
Been using the default camera app but no battery drain on mine. 100% before going to sleep, 8 hours later, battery is at 98% sometimes 99%. Rooted with Gingerbreak bootloader still locked. Some default apps uninstalled. No app running to auto-update.
I've set lcd density at 182.
Im loving the default camera app unless I am missing something here.
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Been using the default camera app but no battery drain on mine. 100% before going to sleep, 8 hours later, battery is at 98% sometimes 99%. Rooted with Gingerbreak bootloader still locked. Some default apps uninstalled. No app running to auto-update.
I've set lcd density at 182.
Im loving the default camera app unless I am missing something here.
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Wow ... My battery goes from 100% to 79% overnight .. You keep Wifi and Auto sync on ?
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Been using the default camera app but no battery drain on mine. 100% before going to sleep, 8 hours later, battery is at 98% sometimes 99%. Rooted with Gingerbreak bootloader still locked. Some default apps uninstalled. No app running to auto-update.
I've set lcd density at 182.
Im loving the default camera app unless I am missing something here.
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Really? What kind of hack did you do?
Mine is also set at 182, but whenever I tap on Scene recognition button, my tap register to resolution button. Since all 5 icons only occupy about 70% of the vertical space from bottom, it creates confusion on the UI. The bounding box of each button is resized properly, but the icons themselves don't resize accordingly. That's the problem.
Which app did you freeze to get rid of huge drain after the camera usage?
I'm not gonna call you a liar, but if what you say is true. That is truly a good news. And by all means, share your method here (or on the battery drain thread in general forum), since I do agree with you that , putting those 2 problems aside, Arc has a wonderful stock camera app.
How dare you calling me a liar. Just kidding!
I have edited the default SE camera app and aligned the buttons. Gave me a headache for days figuring out SE's terminologies for each item. Did it trial and error. I can give you the apk if you want. Better yet, maybe I will make a new thread about it tomorrow as I am sleepy now.
About the battery, nothing auto-updates in the background. Only gsm is running. No wifi, no bt, no alarms, no nothing. I do not need any of those while I sleep. The battery keeps getting better and better every week. One more thing, I have noticed that the battery life started to get better when I uninstalled stock apps. Especially that Whatsapp thing.
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How dare you calling me a liar. Just kidding!
I have edited the default SE camera app and aligned the buttons. Gave me a headache for days figuring out SE's terminologies for each item. Did it trial and error. I can give you the apk if you want. Better yet, maybe I will make a new thread about it tomorrow as I am sleepy now.
About the battery, nothing auto-updates in the background. Only gsm is running. No wifi, no bt, no alarms, no nothing. I do not need any of those while I sleep. The battery keeps getting better and better every week. One more thing, I have noticed that the battery life started to get better when I uninstalled stock apps. Especially that Whatsapp thing.
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So the tweaks youve made are qualifiable?
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I don't know about you guys but, I'm practically in love with the camera app. Did you notice the delay while taking pictures. No? Do you know why? Because, "there is no delay". I've even stopped carrying my SLR around these days.
Monkii said:
Do you guys know that you can move each setting around?...
just expand the menu, tap+hold the one you want and drag to the top menu...
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I!!! LOVE!!! YOU!!!!!!
if you ever get to zurich i'll by you a beer. heck i'll buy you ten beer!
This might be a stupid question, but is there any Portrait/Landscape/Night/Snow etc. setting in the stock app?
I've noticed it's kind of adjusting itself in one of the capture modes, but still I wonder if I just can't find it?
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This might be a stupid question, but is there any Portrait/Landscape/Night/Snow etc. setting in the stock app?
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Sure: set "Capturing mode" to "Normal" and then you can choose in "Scenes" menu
ArcOnFire said:
If it isn't because battery drain and scalability problem, I would've use stock camera app. Because there's no other camera app in the market that bring you to preview in gallery (so that you can zoom in to check whether the picture blurry or not)
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angel camera~~~it can bring you to check the photo you have taken~~it have all mode and setting you need~~~but the setting is not quite user friendly...........you can check this out
I will update this thread as I found issues.
1. Middle of downloads the phone turned off and refused to switch on. Taking the battery out enabled restarting the phone again.
2. Despite of master reset/factory reset the phone is really laggy. Freezing applications made Defy very responsive but under 2.2.2 it appears no difference at all. (Second factory reset seems brought back somme life to my phone now...)
3. Definitely something is causing an annoying delay at startup even though the phone appears to be ready to use.
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
5. Once a number is dialed the phone locks itself. This is rather inconvenience when you need immediately use the key pad to select options. (20 June 2011)
Guidelines - 20 June 2011
I decided to write a guideline for Defy users. The information provided here have already been mentioned by others but normally not in one place. Please follow the steps below every time you flash a new ROM.
1. Master Reset (Whether you like this step or not this is required to do. Imagine upgrading a windows machine, it would be simply a mess in most cases. Any pro users would tell you always to do a clearn install. The same principle with Android applies)
2. Discharge the battery (It seems flashing a ROM messes up the battery calibration. Drain the battery to the point it won't boot then recharge it from the wall socket)
3. Avoid Restoring Apps (Only if is a must. Since Android 2.2 is different to 2.1 many apps might not work very well with the same settings restored from 2.1. Some vendors also offer different version for Android 2.2 or higher. Installing from market is best practice)
4. Avoid using widgets (They are simply battery eaters. Avoid them if they don't provide useful functionality to you)
5. Don't trust all vendors (Many apps placed on Android Market is written by programmers with no experience at all. A badly written app not only drains more battery but also takes up more precious RAM than it should. The less RAM you have, the slower the phone performs)
6. Don't keep large number of emails in your inboxes (They simply take up more memory)
7. Charge your mobile from wall socket when you can. It really does make a difference and also a recommended method by Motorola.
8. Put the Mobile Network to 2G when you can. It does save considerable amount of battery.
9. Switch off the phone once per day for 30 seconds before switching it on again.
Any chance to get hands on SBF for this release
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
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I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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That will get you the motorola update software.
During the update the .sbf is downloaded. We need to get the sbf, however it is deleted once the update has finished. I think this happens when the motorola software asks to "reboot phone, connect usb and verify update".
Please, if anyone does the update make sure to find the .sbf file and copy it somewhere safe before the update is verified. Then post to xda of course
Olly
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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I'm not sure either, I reverted to 2.51 and did the update form that point.
Anyone installed CM over 3.4.2_177-3?
Olly
kashavsehra said:
I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Thanks for that. I can actually reconfirm the issue. Last night when I was setting my alarm, with no lights in the room, I noticed once again the capacitive buttons' led were off. I was helding the phone in portrait and I know for sure this problem wasn't there in 2.1 because I always set my alarm after I turn the lights off (Bedroom's). When I press the Home Key to come out of the Alarm app the capacitive buttons lit up again.
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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If the msu is compiled by Motorola then I'm sure you won't be able to upgrade. The .msu can contain many other smaller installers that can do all the checking, exactly the way the update program does. Your only solutuion is to revert back to Motorola's stock ROM and give it a try.
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
I found the gallery the worst bit. So poor, I can't believe they let it go out like that. Runs like a dog.
I feel embarrassed for Motorola. Or I would if they were not working hard every day making their great hardware under-perform!
Seriously what a phone once CM is on it!
Olly
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
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As far as I'm concerned Motorola has degraded the phone and I'm not too sure if that is legal or not. I'm referring to the apps Motorola developed such as the video player and the gallery that you pointed out, not the Android itself. The additional Task Manager that was shipped with 2.1 in US is a welcome.
I have found my defy is performing slower, unless those claim Defy performs better with Android 2.2 has some settings that I don't. I ended up installing SetVSel to speed thigns up. It seems to me I'm getting 1/4 less juice out of my battery. I can reconfirm it once I play music on it for a couple of hours.
Not wanting to sound negative all the time, here are some positive things I found so far. I'm very happy with this update because now I got all my emails working on my handset which was important to me which missed the feature for the past 6 months. The browser appears to work very smoothly in most cases. I haven't used the Tasks app yet but that is another welcome addition as I always have a need for such features on portable devices. Other positive things about Android is to thank google not Motorola anyway. The slightly improved dialer worth just mentioning about it.
If Motorola refuses to give us Gingerbread then I hope they provide an update to fix some minor issues that either annoying or impacting the user experience soon enough.
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
MrBelter said:
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
lotfib said:
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
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Thank you for your post. In my experience there was a noticeable performance difference between 2.1 and 2.2.2 before a single application was installed. One theory to why some people are happy with the performance and others are not could be down to different components used in Defy. No one knows for sure if all Defy around the globe use exactly the same components or not. As you pointed out installing apps appears to effect the performance so we can conclude those that are not experiencing performance decrease are not power users.
rogier666 said:
QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
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I am confused, all my photos and videos are in folders anyway and all the previews load like lightning so i fail to to see the problem, it is better than any default gallery whichever way you look at it.
Anyway only issue i can find with the retail 2.2 is how low highest screen brightness setting seems to be, the display is really hard to read outside now.
If you have a hundred pictures scattered over ten folders, would you want to tap into those folders one by one to browse all your photos?
Just like there's a unified inbox for mails from many accounts so you don't have to jump from one mailbox to the next, the stock gallery has a unified pictures view (all pictures in one grid) for all your folders.
If you want to swipe through lots of pictures from a bunch of different folders, having them all in one grid beats having to open all the different folders one by one.
If QuickPic would have the same unified picture view and custom picture grid sizes I would throw the stock gallery out. While QuickPic is working on it (are they?) I'll keep both apps.
The problem with the capacitive buttons that not lighting up is worse than I thought. It happens all the time, it doesn't light up and the only way to make it to work, when it gets really bad, by locking the phone (power switch) and unlocking it again.
The battery life noticeably shortened after the update. What I have done today was to completely discharge the battery to the point it doesn't turn on. Recharged it fully again without turning it on and from the wall socket. I'll report back if there was any improvements on Monday.
I also uninstalled VSel and set it to default CPU speed again. Despite of freezing so many apps and services the start up is really slow and I really feel the lag with the phone.
Another Defy/Froyo bug:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* to get into a service menu. From there battery_history/network_usage would tell you network traffic per app since last boot/unplugged/all time.
In Eclair all data was counted. In Froyo it usually doesn't count anything.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht..._facebook_updating_its_windows_phone_app.html
EDIT - 23rd FEB - Version 2.4 fixes the issues with 'Events'.
The LONG awaited update makes facebook kickass! I just got one on my Titan. Exploring it, but so many visible changes already. Update this post soon. If anyone noticed changes do update us!
EDIT1: You can get it manually by going to marketplace and then facebook, press update
It will forget your user ID and password, so re-log-in.
EDIT2: It's a complete revamp of the UI. Excellent speed... Now supports time line feature too!
EDIT3: supports groups and pages as well as very reliable checkin. Photo albums load as quick on 3G as on wifi in previous version, even faster! Still can't "poke" back from the app. Push notifications need testing though
I've already changed my rating and review and given it 5 stars. Hope most users do it too so that others get an idea of how good this official app has become!
5 stars for me too. Therefore long wait for this update. With carbon for Twitter, I appreciate my omnia for a long time.
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Just installed the update a couple of minutes ago. Man, THIS is how it should have looked and worked like in the first place. Really sexy and overall pretty useful now.
Sorry to say but the banner is even bigger and its just as laggy and slow. Try scrolling the panorama, it freezes and slows down... Quite disappointing.
Also there are still no notifications when pinning the inbox to the start screen...
Yes it got a bit better. But not much, the messages still take ages to load (implement a database!).
Push notifications still come in very delayed (but this might be an FB issue and not their fault).
Lets hope they will fix this soon and not let us wait another half year.
But the good thing is the design is better and it has more features. There is hope for a next version
EDIT: Other parts dont seem to be that laggy. Its mainly the frontpage and probably due to the collapsing of the appbar, that slows down the panning of the panorama.
Hmm no update showing available yet on my UK titan...
Edit...
Installing now
Is it just my or did they really remove the shake-to-refresh feature?
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Marvin_S said:
Sorry to say but the banner is even bigger and its just as laggy and slow. Try scrolling the panorama, it freezes and slows down... Quite disappointing.
Also there are still no notifications when pinning the inbox to the start screen...
Yes it got a bit better. But not much, the messages still take ages to load (implement a database!).
Push notifications still come in very delayed (but this might be an FB issue and not their fault).
Lets hope they will fix this soon and not let us wait another half year.
But the good thing is the design is better and it has more features. There is hope for a next version
EDIT: Other parts dont seem to be that laggy. Its mainly the frontpage and probably due to the collapsing of the appbar, that slows down the panning of the panorama.
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For me Panorama/without Panorama, the scrolling and panorama was a breeze! Could it be the internet connection difference? I am not sure about the notifications on mine yet. Ironically not a single notification yet
Message loading is much improved that last version, it could defo be better though.
I guess everyone is on there right now trying to download it at the same time. I get a message that reads " We couldn't load engough data to start the application. Please try again later." LOL....
Got the update also. Huge improvement from the older version, took them long enough though.
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drupad2drupad said:
For me Panorama/without Panorama, the scrolling and panorama was a breeze! Could it be the internet connection difference? I am not sure about the notifications on mine yet. Ironically not a single notification yet
Message loading is much improved that last version, it could defo be better though.
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Well try panning the mainpage panorama from the news feed a full cycle back to the newsfeed. I mean horizontal panning, not the vertical scrolling itself (which is quite smooth). The horizontal panning freezes constantly and lags (Lumia 800). Which makes it a bit unpleasant to use...
I have just downloaded and for sure it kicks asses.
But this just makes me confuse. Is Microsoft trying to integrate everything in WP Apollo?
i mean, mango is first step when we have Facebook and Twitter deep linked in ( notification through Me Hub), but why MS keep updating the apps ?
i don't mean this is a bad move, but does it makes people care less about the social - life ability of next Windows Phone build?
Or they just wanna drop some stuffs to temp fix what Mango can't do about Facebook at the moment and then include it in Apollo?
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Marvin_S said:
Well try panning the mainpage panorama from the news feed a full cycle back to the newsfeed. I mean horizontal panning, not the vertical scrolling itself (which is quite smooth). The horizontal panning freezes constantly and lags (Lumia 800). Which makes it a bit unpleasant to use...
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dont know about you but panning on my DVP is much smoother if i swipe on the banner region instead of the contents region.
Marvin_S said:
Well try panning the mainpage panorama from the news feed a full cycle back to the newsfeed. I mean horizontal panning, not the vertical scrolling itself (which is quite smooth). The horizontal panning freezes constantly and lags (Lumia 800). Which makes it a bit unpleasant to use...
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doesn't happen to me.
I was just using the old app this morning and remarking at how pathetic it performs. This update is soooo much smoother.
http://wmpoweruser.com/facebook-app-update-hands-on-video/
WMPU just updated their headlines.
No updates available on Marketplace. Still 2.3.0.0
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No updates available on Marketplace. Still 2.3.0.0
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Thats the new one.
Change Banner image doesn't work
When I click on "Change Banner Image" nothing happens. Is this working for anyone else?
RGBell said:
When I click on "Change Banner Image" nothing happens. Is this working for anyone else?
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Just tried it out. Works fine for me.
RGBell said:
When I click on "Change Banner Image" nothing happens. Is this working for anyone else?
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I am using an HTC Titan and I just tried it on my wife's Focus. It doesn't do anything on her phone either. Wierd!
After finally getting the update, I tried 4.2 for the first time. To be honest, I imagined 4.2 to be a needed update to the already amazing 4.1.2.
PERFORMANCE
Like some of the users have stated, there is a slight slow down in performance. After using 4.1, the drop in frame rates in 4.2 is more evident. Apps run slower, laggier, and less smooth. Not all apps though, just some. To name a few would be Apex Launcher, Lock Screen App, Whatsapp (only slightly) and a few others. This bugs me. Project Butter? I definitely do not feel that its faster now despite what people have said.
STABILITY
I don't know how many apps I couldn't run because they forced close. And I'm suspecting its due to this 4.2 update. So now I'm patiently waiting for the updates to hopefully solve the problem.
NEW FEATURES
- Lock screen
I really dislike the new lock screen. It just looks ugly to me. The fonts they used in 4.1 was already great. Why change it to this? Google Now has been placed down at the bottom now, making it slower to access it in my opinion. There were a few times where the phone couldn't detect my swipes - maybe it could just be my fault for not hitting the right place). The idea of having widgets on the lock screen is well...rather niche. There isn't even a lot of widgets that can be added on to the lock screen unless I have to reinstall all my apps that I installed before the update. The worst thing about is, it lags. Even on the lock screen.
- Quick settings menu
I don't really find this helpful. Here's why. I already have an app called 'Notification Toggle' that basically adds toggles in my notification bar. Its minimal, quick and fast. I have no problem with Google adding their own version. Its just that in doing that, they have gotten rid of the settings button at the main notification drawer (one finger pull for notifications). Their own toggles are alright. I'm OK with the look of it, but 5 toggles just isn't enough for me (the others are just shortcuts e.g. settings, profile, battery). Hope Google puts back their settings button like in 4.1 or just improve on their toggles.
- Photosphere
One of the main updates in 4.2. I do like the software and layout behind it. Its really well thought out and its definitely an improvement from 4.1.I can access things faster, capture pictures faster and do photosphere - which is googles new 360 panorama that is similar to Google maps Street View. It isn't exactly perfect but I'm guessing its also the users part to take a well-stitched photosphere.
- Keyboard
This is probably the part where I won't complain. This keyboard is the keyboard I've been waiting for. After using Sense 4's keyboard with 'Swype' gestures, I couldn't find any keyboard that could outmatch it. Everything was perfect for me with that keyboard. But now finally I can say that I have found a better one. Not only aesthetically but also functionally. I type faster and smarter now. Google has done a great job with the prediction engine. Almost 90% of the time I'll get the word I want. And even if I don't, the word will more than likely to appear next to the main predicted word. But I believe that the upcoming updates will improve on that.
CONCLUSION
And no, if you're wondering I'm no apple guy. I prefer Android over iOS. These tiny little things just tick me off sometimes. Especially when it comes to performance issues. Most probably either jumping back to 4.1 or flashing another ROM. I think the only thing I wanted from this update was the 'new' keyboard and probably photosphere. I could've just got it separately and not complain. But anyway, that's my thoughts on 4.2. Quite disappointed as you can tell. If you're thinking of updating, think again before you do.
UPDATE: Replaced lock screen with Widget Locker. One problem down. Weird, but it seems a tad faster now for some reason. Battery life is about the same or maybe a little worse.
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I applied the OTA as soon as I was presented to it, and I have to say that something must have gone TERRIBLY wrong! I had an extremely fast and responsive device, now my gnex is really unusable. Slow, hanging, lags is not the proper word, we are talking about geological eras, here! Instead of going back to stock, I want to test some custom roms (I have to reinstall anyway, so what the heck... I will seize the occasion) and see what could have happened, but I am really desperate. I am trying to understand if I really have to go back to 4.1.2...
I did ota and dont have any sort of lag(camera orientation only), i have over a 100 apps installed and none of them have force closed or slowed down
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guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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Yes, that is what I have to do.
I have resistances to doing a full reset because I have made a backup of the SD, but I am happier if my data stay where they are!
For the moment, I will experiment with a couple of ROMs, so I can wipe everything but the SD via recovery.
I'm mostly disappointed with 4.2. A few nice additions I guess: lock screen widgets though it's more or less personal preference, native swipe texting and photosphere. I also like the foundation for multi-users. In the future I think that will be a big thing.
But there are too many downsides. Performance lag compared to 4.1.2 (yes, even after clean install) and my issue with my cheek still pressing things despite the proximity sensor having shut off the screen (I've pressed random numbers and even managed to hang up on people during calls because of it). These are the major things bothering me.
I'll probably be downgrading to 4.1.2 in a few days.
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
I'm quite happy with 4.2
The lock screen is the matter of preference, I like to have the access to the camera when using PIN or gesture lock. In the future I see having some news or weather widget there but definitely not gmail or messaging. I'd quickly regret that if my phone would get lost or stolen.
I love swype functionality. It's a nice blend between two keyboards and it doesn't lag.
Photosphere is big, with some patience you can get amazing results. Try using some kind of tripod for best results.
Gmail pinch to zoom is the long awaited update and works great but also thanks to scaling your emails you can now scroll between emails more easily.
There are parts where the device feels more laggy, less responsive (camera orientation, multi task list) but these will hopefully be fixed with the future updates. And knowing there is no December in people app Google is probably working full speed to bring that 4.2.1 to us
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I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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Why? Im curious
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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Nebucatnetzer said:
I agree with you on most post points.
What I really wanted to say though is that I'm really impressed that you wrote all this on your phone!
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What the feeling of being annoyed can do to you these days...
ejpenha said:
guys.. Looks like u r Talking about another phone.
Have you tried a clean update?
I flashed takju 4.2 and everything is Better, my phone has only one issue: no december on peoples APP.. Even camera has Better features..OK there is no shortcut to see the pics...but man!!! Really!!! try a fresh start with stock 4.2
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I did a stock OTA update. And have around a little less than 200 apps in total.
Ma7moud90 said:
I think the bugs are because something is wrong with the OTA update itself.
I did a takju factory image flash with a clean storage and no performance issues or bugs at all (Except december), but when a friend of mine did the OTA he got most of the bugs people complain about.
Advice: wipe your phone clean and flash the factory image or wait for 4.2.1
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Maybe it's cos mines the yakju variant.
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I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
No issues here....love the new update
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What bugs me is the lower volume in Google music -.- I can't hear anything -.- I hope they fix this sh*t ASAP... The gnex is quiet in general but now its annoying -.-
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ronnie_1712 said:
I installed the OTA, and it slowed the phone down. Then I wiped the device clean and flashed the 4.2 image, it was still the same. Google messed up with this one.
Nexus is the way I like it.
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Try flashing a costum kernel, could help out a lot. I prefer Franco Kernel.
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My only complain is the look of 4.2. The lock screen is ugly, the digital clock, bold hours makes no sense!
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I was having the same issues, when I installed it, but now I flashed a ROM and they changed these things. Try it yourself!
One more thing: white is really white on 4.2
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One annoying thing, that you haven't mentioned, is that I'm able to change the notification (calls, texts, etc) volume from the lock screen.
Edit: As soon as I get enough time, I'll downgrade to 4.1.2 again.
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4.2 made for nexus 4 which is quadcore device,so is it feel any different in gnex with dualcore??
I feel no difference between the two performance/battery wise. No dramas with it or whatsoever. I see no reason why not to upgrade to 4.2 but that's just me
Hello there, first time i write here but been reading a lot!
First, you need to know I own a galaxy s2 s3 s4 (all rooted) and my good friend has a note 3.
Also played a lot with nexus10 and the first galaxy note 10.1
I waited so long to buy the "perfect" tablet. Ipad is out of question even tho we know they are awesome tablet, i am a system administrator and i need Android.
So when i heard about the new note 10.1 2014, i was very existed because i REALLY like my s4 and my friend's note 3.
And i thought the s pen was awesome for a tablet (seeing my kid having fun drawing on their own picture is a +).
Well i convicted my girlfriend we need this, i started reading a lot of reviews and decided to buy because reviews are all saying the tablet was the best to compete vs the ipad.
I bought it brand new on eBay because there was no place i can buy it in Canada.
As soon as i received it, i found it run so damn slow. .. WAY slower than my s4.
I can live with the short battery life, that's not a big deal even tho the 2x quad core was supposed to help that (running on 1.3 while on hold to save battery).
Looks like it is always running on that 1.3ghz cpu now.
I did a factory default reset. .. Then a hard reset, nothing helped.
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
My friend with the note 3 came here last night and was amazed to see how the screen has a bad responds to finger but very good with the pen. Also how it freezes and lags.
Now... is it only MY galaxy note ?
Should i send it to Samsung and hope it is going to be OK when i receive it back ?
Is it normal and should be all fixed with kit kat update ?
Or normal... They missed it so i should just throw it away ? If so... What else should i get ?
I very like the aspect. The home/menu/back buttons, the o/s (touch wiz), the nexus 10 was not that great even with kit kat, but runs so much faster.
I don't know what to do, i want a tablet with the s pen, but the hold note 3 is running smoother than my 2014 edition! !!
I guess i need help here !
And as i bought the item from usa eBay, I'll have to pay for the shipping to Samsung if i send them my tablet for repair !
Thank you very much for your help and advice !
Martin L.
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
SherifMedhat said:
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
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It all seams to be random. .. Now the gallery works perfectly.
Really looks to be a problem switching from a cpu to the other and stays on the 1.3
Right now, while typing this, i got an error saying the gallery has stopped working! !
Any idea which benchmark i should use ?
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
genius312 said:
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
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What firmware version is installed on your new Note 2014?
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genius312 said:
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
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I have no problems with the gallery app. Before I bought the Note, I had the Xperia Tablet Z for a short time and it was much slower in the Gallery app. My JPEGs usually are about 10 MByte each and browsing hundreds of them works very well on the Note.
Where do i find the firmware ?
Model Number is sm-p600
Android 4.3
Kernel 3.4.39-204073
version jss15j.p600ueubmk1
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Where do i find the firmware?
version jss15j.p600ueub-----mk1
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You are on MK1 which is the latest in US as far as I'm aware.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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Thank you for your answer.
No sd card yet and i do not think i will need any. I have enough on my s4
I found the system slow so i did a factory reset from the menus.
It was still slow after so i did a hard reset.
If it is a corrupted file. .. That file is in the core files because the hard reset would have wipe it !
But it makes sense tho since the problem is random.
But every thing should be as smooth as the s4 and the note 3 ?
Not because it had a bigger screen. ..i should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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Not because it had a bigger screen.
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
I should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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It is what it is my friend. You're running the latest U.S. s/w so unless you're having a h/w issue (doubtful) than the performance you're getting is the performance you're going to get. At least until updates hopefully speed of fluidity. The Tab/Note|Pro's running 4.4/M-UX appear significantly faster than the N10.1-14 and use the exact same h/w so the occasional lag we're seeing is curable with s/w.
Hopefully yes.
Is there any software I can install to see which CPU is running ?
Because when it runs great, I m happy with the little lag... not a big problem
But when it decides to stop, them everything is slow.
I see no updates running, if I empty the ram, it is still using 2.05 out of 3 ! ( I have 2 users)
Even switching from users to the other is slower then what I see on youtube (People showing that fonctionnality).
and WAAAY slower that the old nexus 10 I used.
Maybe the switching from 1 processor to the other is not perfect and gives problem a lot ...
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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*unistall
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
genius312 said:
Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
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Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact)
I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird !
I only have 5 apps installed on it.
Also, I use swype to type text (slide my fingers through the keyboard) and sometimes it just doesn't work. I start sliding and it's like it cannot see my finger anymore. Works better with the pen again. Like I said previously, like it the screen has hard time to detect my finger on the screen.
Again, sometimes .. not always !
I think I m gonna see how much it will cost me to send it back to samsung and have it repaired .. I don't think all this is normal.
A lot of people say they bought tablets for 150$ and they works perfectly.
Yes mine does multi user, but at 150 I could have bought 4 of 'em + a lot of accessories !
genius312 said:
Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact). I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird ! I only have 5 apps installed on it.
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Don't confuse "apps" with "processes" and "services." Because of all Samsung's "stuff" (EG: Multi View, S Pen) there are a gazillion open processes running in the background anticipating being needed. If you go in to Task Manager and "clear RAM" you'll see 40-50 processes being closed. You really needn't worry about it because Android dynamically manages memory and if something in the foreground needs memory it'll prioritize what to close in the background. Also, Mali reserves probably 500MB for itself at all times so you never really had 3GB of RAM truly available. Samsung, not being a benevolent company, included 3GB of RAM in the N3 and N10.1-14 for a reason.
In other words, if you're having some type of performance issue it's highly doubtful it's being caused by RAM starvation.
Of course the ram is not the problem... even if there is only 300 mo free, that s enough to manage the program I run.
But I really hate when I cannot swipe to type, when the gallery is so buggy that I cannot browse my pictures ( 10 photos max... not linked with Dropbox or facebook), when I have to wait for the next page in the apps page, when I try to slide the page and it just doesn't t work.. have to do it twice or trice ... When I want to slide down the notifications but I have to try 3-5-6 or 7 times...
Switching pages in the S note take times...sometimes lag but that is not a problem for me... All the others tho really makes me feel like either that tablet is a crap or mine has a problem .
I would sincerely prefere the second
When it s not buggy it works great... but sooooo unstable