I have poked around a little, but haven't really seen what I am after. I am trying to find a ROM that is basically stock, but has the bloatware pulled out, cleaned up, performance tweaked, possibly deodexed, etc. Just a "clean base" to get me going. Is there anything like that floating around that I simply missed?
EDIT: I meant to say "stock" as in stock Samsung, not Google/AOSP/etc.
EDIT #2: I guess really I don't mind the Google/AOSP ROMs (in fact I like a lot of it better), I just want the stock camera app and wifi calling. I had the CyanogenMod nightlys installed for a couple days, I really liked that, but I also really missed the stock camera application and wifi calling.
Wifi calling is only going to be on roms cooked for t-mobile only, the other roms will not have that option.
What you are looking for is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261013 This is what I am on and it works great. This is the stock rom de-odexed with a script you run to remove the bloat. Follow instructions closely because you do not perform a full wipe. You just flash the de-odexed rom over your existing stock rom.
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I'm coming from a Nexus S 4G, and nothing against what I've seen so far in development for the GSIII, but I think I want something very very close to stock and I don't quite see what I'm looking for in the Development forum here.
I'd like to pull the stock ROM files and get started on some optimizations and whatnot. That being said, I don't know where to start. I'd prefer to rip the files from my own device, but am open to other options.
I'm really just hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
kdepro said:
I'm coming from a Nexus S 4G, and nothing against what I've seen so far in development for the GSIII, but I think I want something very very close to stock and I don't quite see what I'm looking for in the Development forum here.
I'd like to pull the stock ROM files and get started on some optimizations and whatnot. That being said, I don't know where to start. I'd prefer to rip the files from my own device, but am open to other options.
I'm really just hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
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Check on the android site, they usually post their source code there, also PhantomHacker has a ROM very close to stock called Blazer, which is just an optimized and debloated TW Rom. He even posted the bloatware as an available download if you want it back on. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184.
Here is a link to a copy of the latest OTA as well,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743923
I think I'm getting all this stuff straight, but sometimes it seems like the more I read the more confused I get.
I know I could just try it out and see, but before I spend 2 hours getting dirty looks from my gf because I have my face buried in the phone, I would like to know I'm on the right track.
ROMs found in the "Original Android Developement" forum:
CM9/10 - these are experimental nightly builds, probably have bugs and probably not the best choice for a daily ROM
ROMs that say they are based on CM9/10/AOKP/MIUI/AOSP - these are more stable ROMs with parts cherry-picked from CM9/10/AOKP sources and are more likely to be suitable for daily use
I can use themes that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed" (quote taken from the description of "Arctic Green" on the play store, I think this ROM will be refreshing, like a cool breeze on my balls) and they will have a theme chooser in settings
I need to flash GApps (If I want them)
I can still run another launcher, like Go or APEX
EDIT ADDITION: I still use stock radio/modem/firmware/AIO zips
ROMs found in the "Android Developement" forum:
With TW or without, Odexed or Deodexed these are basically modified stock (samsung based?) ROMs with no copyright issues which is why there is no need for a seperate GApps zip
I can (usually) only use themes and mods specifically made for the ROM I'm using (I understand that sometimes there are exceptions, lika a blazer theme might work on FreeGS3 and vice-cersa)
I can't use themes or mods that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed"
Do I understand the differences? Any additions/clarifications are definately appreciated.
jmdatcs said:
I think I'm getting all this stuff straight, but sometimes it seems like the more I read the more confused I get.
I know I could just try it out and see, but before I spend 2 hours getting dirty looks from my gf because I have my face buried in the phone, I would like to know I'm on the right track.
ROMs found in the "Original Android Developement" forum:
CM9/10 - these are experimental nightly builds, probably have bugs and probably not the best choice for a daily ROM
ROMs that say they are based on CM9/10/AOKP/MIUI/AOSP - these are more stable ROMs with parts cherry-picked from CM9/10/AOKP sources and are more likely to be suitable for daily use
I can use themes that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed" (quote taken from the description of "Arctic Green" on the play store, I think this ROM will be refreshing, like a cool breeze on my balls) and they will have a theme chooser in settings
I need to flash GApps (If I want them)
I can still run another launcher, like Go or APEX
EDIT ADDITION: I still use stock radio/modem/firmware/AIO zips
ROMs found in the "Android Developement" forum:
With TW or without, Odexed or Deodexed these are basically modified stock (samsung based?) ROMs with no copyright issues which is why there is no need for a seperate GApps zip
I can (usually) only use themes and mods specifically made for the ROM I'm using (I understand that sometimes there are exceptions, lika a blazer theme might work on FreeGS3 and vice-cersa)
I can't use themes or mods that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed"
Do I understand the differences? Any additions/clarifications are definately appreciated.
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CM9 and 10 are currently in nightly stage, but that's not permanent. There will be a final, stable version of CM10 when all the bugs are squashed. As for whether they'll be good for your daily ROM, it depends on your needs. Most things in CM10 work fine as it is, but some things may be broken. Whether the broken stuff actually affects you depends on what you need your phone to do.
ROMs based on CM10 are usually not any less buggy. In fact, they will include any CM10 bugs plus whatever creeps in via the additional code, so they will most likely be more buggy than CM10.
Yes, you should be able to use the Play Store themes in Theme Chooser. Yes, you need to flash Gapps. Yes, you can use whichever launcher you like. Yes, you use the stock radio (not sure what you mean by all-in-one zips).
The ROMs in the normal development section are based on the stock OEM ROM or they are ports from other phones/ROMs. They usually don't require Gapps, not because of copyright issues, but because they are based on the stock ROM. The themes may be compatible across Touchwiz ROMs based on the same firmware, but check the theme's thread first. CM and other AOSP themes/mods are NOT compatible with Touchwiz ROMs.
I hope this clears up some things.
EndlessDissent said:
I hope this clears up some things.
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It does, thank you.
I will be changing the OP to reflect your response and any additional info posted here later tonight so, hopefully, this will be a useful thread for other noobs.
I've rooted my phone plenty of times and flashed CM 10. I find myself going back to stock every time. I rooted again. So now what? Sorry for asking such an annoying question. I'm just at a loss with this. I need some direction.
What exactly is your question? If you don't know why you rooted maybe you shouldn't be rooting in the first place. You don't root just for roms, root is administrator access to the system. It allows you to access the system files usually blocked to the end user. Roms are just custom OS's chosen by the user and their tastes/preferences/requirements. You should probably do some more reading so you know what it is you're doing before you break your phone.
I like to break stuff!
betoishly said:
I've rooted my phone plenty of times and flashed CM 10. I find myself going back to stock every time. I rooted again. So now what? Sorry for asking such an annoying question. I'm just at a loss with this. I need some direction.
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if you find yourself constantly going back to stock, you should check out the custom TouchWiz ROMs. these will give you the stock experience modified for speed, power and battery savings. plus the fact that they are fully customizable.
just go to the 2 different Android development threads for this phone, you will find everything you need and more.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
For a stock feel with performance tweaks and loads of options for themes check out
The People's Rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463 Freshly updated to 3.13 with all the bells and whistles.
Mother of All Roms- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116531 Yet another deliciously tasteful rom that is TW based, load of options. Recently updated as well.
Either of these roms you can make your way. Plenty of options to give you the look and feel you want. Support is amazing for these two as well.
+1 for milky!
Or if you don't want to over-do your phone for themed stock JB styles or AOSP.
Then try shooting for a custom kernel and optimizing it for better performance.
Or better yet, find a stock optimized kernel and it'll be all good OR BETTER THEN THAT....
Learn all about the android kitchen and build your own rom from the scratch up!
Spark91 said:
+1 for milky!
Or if you don't want to over-do your phone for themed stock JB styles or AOSP.
Then try shooting for a custom kernel and optimizing it for better performance.
Or better yet, find a stock optimized kernel and it'll be all good OR BETTER THEN THAT....
Learn all about the android kitchen and build your own rom from the scratch up!
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Both the above listed roms do have an optimized stock kernel with tweaks for optimization.
I don't root just to say "I'm a hacker" I have a decent amount of knowledge on what root access is. It is my fault for wording my question like I did. I keep going back to stock because I can't set my phone up the way I'd like. Also, for those who are developers...how do you do it? Developing seemed much more easier on Google's Nexus Line.
I've had CM10 on my GS3 for while now, ever since December I believe. Even before then, I didn't do much in the way of ROM stuff or even coming here to XDA. I've recently flashed back to Blazer ROM in order to PRL/Profile update and I'm seeing all of this stuff about update MB1.
Could anyone recommend me a ROM similar to Blazer that is based on MB1?
Just go through the development section and find one that catches your eye
SPRINT GS3 FAQ
Thanks for the reply. I did look through the list of ROMs.
I was digging more for personal opinions, though.
Sunsparc said:
Thanks for the reply. I did look through the list of ROMs.
I was digging more for personal opinions, though.
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I haven't flashed a TW-based Rom in quite a while. If you really like Blazer Rom and don't really care for the update from LJ7 to MB1, you can just edit the build.prop to disable the OTA notifications. It's easy to do, and CNexus has a good tutorial on his OTA Guide Sticky Thread.
Other than that, after looking through the Developer's Thread, most of the Roms there offer similar experiences to Blazer Rom. A lot of the custom Mods incorporated in Blazer are pretty standard on TW-based Roms nowadays. Blazer might have had a really stable, battery-saving reputation, but with most MB1 Roms you can get really good battery life (even without flashing a custom kernel, although they can help a great deal with battery life).
After all that, I haven't done what you asked, which is point you in the direction of one (or two) Roms you'd like. I honestly am not able to. If you really want some TW MB1 Rom suggestions, I'd start with the following (in no particular order):
The People's Rom
Clean Bean
Goodness Reborn
MOAR Rom
Team Venom Odex Blue Holy Grail
And there are a lot of other great Roms out there. You can see my sig for my curent setup. It's AOSP-based and has been running really solid recently.
topherk said:
I haven't flashed a TW-based Rom in quite a while. If you really like Blazer Rom and don't really care for the update from LJ7 to MB1, you can just edit the build.prop to disable the OTA notifications. It's easy to do, and CNexus has a good tutorial on his OTA Guide Sticky Thread.
Other than that, after looking through the Developer's Thread, most of the Roms there offer similar experiences to Blazer Rom. A lot of the custom Mods incorporated in Blazer are pretty standard on TW-based Roms nowadays. Blazer might have had a really stable, battery-saving reputation, but with most MB1 Roms you can get really good battery life (even without flashing a custom kernel, although they can help a great deal with battery life).
After all that, I haven't done what you asked, which is point you in the direction of one (or two) Roms you'd like. I honestly am not able to. If you really want some TW MB1 Rom suggestions, I'd start with the following (in no particular order):
The People's Rom
Clean Bean
Goodness Reborn
MOAR Rom
Team Venom Odex Blue Holy Grail
And there are a lot of other great Roms out there. You can see my sig for my curent setup. It's AOSP-based and has been running really solid recently.
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I downloaded stock rooted and CleanBean, so I'll probably check out CleanBean. The only reason I want to update to MB1 is the multi-window. Outside of that, something that has good battery life and allows me to switch the CPU governor to conservative.
Sunsparc said:
I downloaded stock rooted and CleanBean, so I'll probably check out CleanBean. The only reason I want to update to MB1 is the multi-window. Outside of that, something that has good battery life and allows me to switch the CPU governor to conservative.
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Just so you're aware, the MA6 and MB1 updates did not include multi-window. All of the Roms with multi-window are based on the international update, which included the Premium Suite.
It does not change your assessment, as LJ7 (and prior) Roms won't have multi-window, but it's just so you're aware that stock MB1 Roms won't have any of the premium suite additions.
If you flash an MB1 rom that doesn't have multiwindow, there's a flashable that adds that feature to any stock-based MB1 rom
I have installed Googl Play Edition 4.3 on my S4.
As a result, I have lost all of those cool Samsung features that rely on built in sensors
Is tgere any way to get those sensors working with Google play edition?
I mean things like turning pages by hand in the air above the phone, and scrolling ul and down by tilting the phone.
Thanks.
Is tbere a way to go back to Samsung stock rom? I did not back it up.
retfeg said:
I have installed Googl Play Edition 4.3 on my S4.
As a result, I have lost all of those cool Samsung features that rely on built in sensors
Is tgere any way to get those sensors working with Google play edition?
I mean things like turning pages by hand in the air above the phone, and scrolling ul and down by tilting the phone.
Thanks.
Is tbere a way to go back to Samsung stock rom? I did not back it up.
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No TW features on 4.3. I think there was a minimal amount things on 4.2.2, but nothing really like the actual TW experience. If you want to go back stock, you have two choices: either Odin back to 100% stock and re-root... which is the boring way. OR you can d/l a modified/stock ROM and flash that with whatever custom recovery you have. Check the development sections; there are quite a few stock choices, and which one to pick just depends on whether you want it themed, bone stock looking, etc.
Thanks so much.
Do you have any recomedarions on modified stock Rom?
I am mostly concerned about a good battery life and speed of the device and getting back TW features.
By tbe way, do all midified stock Roms have TW features in them?
What are yiur recomedarions based on what I am looking for?
Thanks a lot
retfeg said:
Thanks so much.
Do you have any recomedarions on modified stock Rom?
I am mostly concerned about a good battery life and speed of the device and getting back TW features.
By tbe way, do all midified stock Roms have TW features in them?
What are yiur recomedarions based on what I am looking for?
Thanks a lot
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All modified stock ROMs have the TW features.
I've personally been using BobcatROM from the i9505 development section, but from what I could tell, the only differences between the modified stock are themes and small differences here and there. Just check a few out, if some of the tweaks or changes interest you, try it out.
lordcheeto03 said:
All modified stock ROMs have the TW features.
I've personally been using BobcatROM from the i9505 development section, but from what I could tell, the only differences between the modified stock are themes and small differences here and there. Just check a few out, if some of the tweaks or changes interest you, try it out.
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Could you please point me to the right section to get modified original roms?
Is it in T-Mobile S4 Android Development section or t the T-Mobile S4 Android Original Android Development section?
I am not sure whether the original implies modified original rom section?
Would you also please include a link to where I can find your bobcat rom?
Thank you so much!
retfeg said:
Could you please point me to the right section to get modified original roms?
Is it in T-Mobile S4 Android Development section or t the T-Mobile S4 Android Original Android Development section?
I am not sure whether the original implies modified original rom section?
Would you also please include a link to where I can find your bobcat rom?
Thank you so much!
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I gotta let you do SOME of the legwork But seriously, the mod/stock ROMs will be in Android Development and you can find kernels in the Original Development section. Considering you flash a T-Mobile kernel directly after flashing a ROM, you can use ROMs from any S4 development section including the "original development" section; be it AT&T, Sprint, etc. The only restriction is make sure not to flash a ROM from the i9500 section. The 9500 (Exynos octa-core) and 9505 (Snapdragon like the m919 and others) is the "international version" and share a forum; just different subsections dedicated to each one individually. The i9505 section is safe, which is where Bobcat is located. It's pounded into the ground, but it's worth mentioning again; if you rely on WiFi calling, you will want a T-Mobile TouchWiz ROM. If you're like me though and care nothing about WiFi calling then there's no reason to stick with only the T-Mobile ROMs unless you just prefer them.
lordcheeto03 said:
I gotta let you do SOME of the legwork But seriously, the mod/stock ROMs will be in Android Development and you can find kernels in the Original Development section. Considering you flash a T-Mobile kernel directly after flashing a ROM, you can use ROMs from any S4 development section including the "original development" section; be it AT&T, Sprint, etc. The only restriction is make sure not to flash a ROM from the i9500 section. The 9500 (Exynos octa-core) and 9505 (Snapdragon like the m919 and others) is the "international version" and share a forum; just different subsections dedicated to each one individually. The i9505 section is safe, which is where Bobcat is located. It's pounded into the ground, but it's worth mentioning again; if you rely on WiFi calling, you will want a T-Mobile TouchWiz ROM. If you're like me though and care nothing about WiFi calling then there's no reason to stick with only the T-Mobile ROMs unless you just prefer them.
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II am a little confused.
Don't roms come with Kernels?
Do I need to download a separate rom and kernel
I just want to get an aokp rom tgat will give me the original tw features. Where do I go for that?
retfeg said:
II am a little confused.
Don't roms come with Kernels?
Do I need to download a separate rom and kernel
I just want to get an aokp rom tgat will give me the original tw features. Where do I go for that?
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ROMs do come with kernels, and that's why if you flash an S4 ROM from outside the T-Mobile section you need to flash a T-Mobile kernel. The T-Mobile ROMs obviously already have T-Mobile kernels. If you flash a ROM from the AT&T section, your device will be using an AT&T kernel and will not boot. But if you flash the AT&T ROM and flash a T-Mobile kernel directly afterwards, your device will then have the T-Mobile kernel and will run that AT&T ROM just like it was built for your device. The only way to retain your TouchWiz features is to use any ROM based on stock. If you want AOKP, CM, AOSP, etc you will lose all of the TW features. I think WatchON works on some (most?) non-TW ROMs now; but as far as things like Air Move, Smart Pause/Stay, the TouchWiz camera, and the other gimmicky features... they don't work outside of TouchWiz. Read up. Go to the dev sections and read, at the very least, the first post for the ROMs. That first post will almost always give you an idea of what features the ROM includes, screenshots of what it looks like, what's not working that is supposed to, and if it's TouchWiz based or CM/AOSP based.
And throw lordcheeto a thanks or two lets him know you appreciate his leg work and explanation.
Thanks so much for all this info!
Really appreciate it.