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A good screen protector and where to get one (XDA Orbit, UK)

This may be the wrong forum because my phone doesn't look like the icon for this board - if so, please could someone direct me towards the correct forum? My phone is an XDA Orbit.
Anyway, it came with a screen protector - which was a nice touch. The only problem is it's pretty poor (still better than nothing, mind). Can anyone suggest where, in the UK, to get a good one? I think I've used a Martin Fields one before and a Writeshield, but I can't remember how I liked either one since I don't remember which was which!
So, where can I get a good screen protector for an XDA Orbit in the UK?

I ordered mine over the net from Brando. It takes a while to arrive but the quality is good. I've got one each for my Charmer and Wizard, they ought to have one for your Orbit. It cost approx £7 (I think) including P&P.
Seach for the forum topic on screen protector and you'll get lovely recommendation from other members. There is another brand of srn pro that is heavily recommended by the members as well, not sure if you can get it in UK.
You can try eBay also if you want it fast. Just make sure you get the brand name right.

So Brando is an okay place for buying stuff in the UK then? Also, I suppose my main worry is that the XDA Orbit is the same screen dimensions the Artemis - I don't really understand, are they the same phone with a different shell? Is the Orbit a P3300?

The orbit is the HTC P3300 and you can also find screen protectors at gpsforless.co.uk

Anjow said:
So Brando is an okay place for buying stuff in the UK then? Also, I suppose my main worry is that the XDA Orbit is the same screen dimensions the Artemis - I don't really understand, are they the same phone with a different shell? Is the Orbit a P3300?
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Well, I haven't really bought 1,000 stuff from Brando yet, but from my 2 experience with them, they are good in terms of speed (considering the process of it getting from HK to UK), packaging and quality of their product. I dont have an Orbit, but if you (and epmulligan) can confirmed that an Orbit is a P3300, then this ought to do the job . Dont worry about the picture showing you the Palm PPC. Check the words under the description on the compatible devices when ordering.
ANYWAY, chances are, if you were to buy a screen protector for a 240x320 device made by the same company, chances are, the size should be alright (e.g. chances are, the manufacturer will be using the same screen all over).
BTW, did you search the forum for other advises. There are some other brand which the members here also recommended. See if they have Orbit specific ones and probably UK delivery.
UPDATE: I had a look at the screen protector offered at gpsforless for Orbit, which is a 12 pack for £5.99. I've tried some similar 3 pack set from someone from ebay and the quality is REALLY different. Hence, I would advise you not to get it from there.

Thanks for the advice guys, very helpful.

If you don't mind waiting a few days for delivery from the USA the Boxwave Cleartouch Crystal is second to none. I used these on my XDA2i and now on my Orbit.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/cle...h-crystal-screen-protector-htc-p3300_2421.htm

I got mine from this ebay seller dx_accessories
He sells the multi layer stuff and I can confirm it does work. Two main differences from the O2 supplied protector. 1, the top layer is much harder and much more resistant to scratch. It is also smooth (glossy finish) and the stylus glides over it with ease (not the case with the O2 protector). 2, the so-called 'gel' layer that adheres itself to the screen works brilliantly. It left zero air bubble with very small effort. I spent 15 mins getting dust and air bubble out of the O2, this I spent 1 min getting the screen squeaky clean and it sticks on to it perfectly. The size is also perfect, leaving no more than 0.3 mm to any side.
The only problem I have is the glossy finish, making the screen a bit more difficult to see under strong light. I own a Wizard and had a similar protector for similar price but with a matte finish like a normal LCD monitor.
It comes with a screen wipe which is handy. I won't complain for GBP4 all in.

humps said:
I got mine from this ebay seller dx_accessories
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Looked for him and it apears he has nothing at all on sale at all at the moment.

I remembered where I got my writeshield from - globalpositioningsystems.co.uk so I spoke to them on the phone, found the one for the Orbit and ordered it. I just figured I'd stick with what I know because I was satisfied with it before. The main reason I chose this was because the guy on the phone could guarantee me it would fit the device.

I bought mine at http://search.stores.ebay.es/DuraSe...sooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftsZ2QQsaselZ136025443QQsofpZ0
Very quick and impressive quality.
Regards

It turns out the person I spoke to at globalpositioningsystems.co.uk was wrong. The writeshield they told me to get is too big...

Do you think the T-Mo HTC TP2 Back Cover...

Im about to get the T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro2 and if you all have seen it the back is awful, At least in my opinion looks like an old phone look,
I was wondering if you all thought the Battery Cover Door for the EU one will be exact fit as the T-Mobile one,
I want the Silver back then the Mocha i think it is back.
I reviewed it in real life then compared it to videos they look exact to me i wouldnt imagine them changing the actual phone.
If anyone knows that'll be great if they're exact fit before i pay $25 for it.
Silver one:
http://www.msgdigital.com/productdetail.asp?productid=47493&refid=froogle
T-Mobile One:
http://images.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/htc-touch-pro2-t-mobile-wing-ii-4.jpg
The mute button looks the same, The usb curve on the bottom though you cant see it is the same,
I dont think the T-Mobile one has 2 mics but thats just a hole, Thanks sorry if been asked.
Gotta go to work thanks for the replies if any knows.

for the life of me, i simply can't figure out why telcos always go and mess around with the handset's default design. in almost every instance they make it worse.

the device looks really cheap an the T3D is an earlier version than the default device

yea I'd like to know this too..for when I buy the device on AT&T. I want it to look as much like the euro version as possible.
anyone know if the euro battery cover would fit on the US-branded units?

Personally I like the backs of the default generic/Euro version and the Verizon versioin (I like the world map they included in the back, what can I say)
And the front I like the most is the Telux one. Unfortunately there's no chance of changing the front I'm guessing

I am not sure where you buy that phone, but the Dutch (The Netherlands) T-Mobile branded HTC TP2 has the original silver cover.
I see the picture you linked, and I agree it is ugly!
(The original TP did not have the nice black diamond back and no LED Flash, but the TP2 seems to be identical besides the T-Mobile logo's and the ROM as the real HTC-TP2)

Just to let yall know ill be ordering the back on Wednesday when i get the Phone, Ill post if it fits or not its only 20 dollars,
I'll personally when i get paid change the front outer border, also they sell the chromish or whatever front faceplate for i think 20 dollars might have to check a few times.
The T-mobile back is just so blah and the square speaker isnt nearly as cool as the round one going all the way down.
Like I said ill post if it fits or not i went to review it at my T-mobile store and i watched video from my G1 and it looks identical on the actual fit of the phone,
Lets hope right? I have seen the Sprint World Map one thats amazing looking but that back wont be out forever.

somethingdope said:
for the life of me, i simply can't figure out why telcos always go and mess around with the handset's default design. in almost every instance they make it worse.
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I like that several US carriers went without chrome (Verizon's rim looks a little like black chrome). I don't really want shiny happy people to relate to me.
But generally speaking, you're right. Carrier's designfu is weaker than HTC's.

Unfortunately the world cover one won't fit on the normal gsm versions. At least I don't think it will as it must make more space for he 3.5mm jack.
The Sprint one looks weird... the brown is just ugly, but the back is an interesting design...
interesting good or interesting bad I haven't decided yet

Yea i forgot i about that, It looks the Exact same on the EU and T-Mobile one but the sprint is differnt from pictures that has been posted,
Reason why im waiting to order the back till wendesday is so i can do a detailed comparasion at home instead of at the malls T-mobile haha
Iv also seen custom Battery Back Covers floating around if any one is interested i think i seen them all on ebay/

Is my HTC E100 remote genuine?

Hi all,
Was hoping you could help, I ordered a HTC E100 remote off ebay which came today, although I am concerned its not the genuine version as it looks different to all the product image I have seen. How does it compare to yours please? (mine and the standard marketing photo are attached).

indyjonesUK said:
Hi all,
Was hoping you could help, I ordered a HTC E100 remote off ebay which came today, although I am concerned its not the genuine version as it looks different to all the product image I have seen. How does it compare to yours please? (mine and the standard marketing photo are attached).
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No one else got one? Need to find out soon to maybe send mine back

id send it bk, the one in the first pic is clearly nt made by htc

mancsoulja said:
id send it bk, the one in the first pic is clearly nt made by htc
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+1 the first pic looks extremely cheap "non branded" not HTC style

hello, i have the same problem. my RC E100 looks the same! no HTC Logo on the front side. it's on the backside on the clip only.
i have mine from here:
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/sd2204/
genuine or not?

The one you have is a fake i've bought over 3 of those on ebay only one came original and that was like 3-4 times more expensive..

If it was real it would have the HTC logo on it - it is fake - Send it back

i have only leaved negative feedback for this seller. i dont want to spend more time and money to have an original piece.

Aria Screen/ Digitizer

It's a new record for me... I had my new Aria/Liberty/Intruder all set up and inside of three days dropped and T-boned the screen
Anyone have ideas on where to find parts for a Aria? I understand HTC is notoriously slow about releasing aftermarket parts. The repair guy I took my phone to encouraged me to help him find the part.
Many thanks-
C+

Preferido said:
It's a new record for me... I had my new Aria/Liberty/Intruder all set up and inside of three days dropped and T-boned the screen
Anyone have ideas on where to find parts for a Aria? I understand HTC is notoriously slow about releasing aftermarket parts. The repair guy I took my phone to encouraged me to help him find the part.
Many thanks-
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I used to order all my blackberry parts from here. Very good reveiws. There across the seas but shipping is usually quick and even faster if you bump it up.http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-aria-c-277_1068.html

Thanks Kudvu002! You saved the day!
I found one on ebay, but the shipping's not as quick.

Have you tried taking it apart yet? I'm trying to get a little insight on the disassembly. It seems like you can pop off the top yellow cover but I wasn't able to get it off and didn't want to force it.

anyone knows where to buy the digitizer for the Aria? cnn.cn shows the digitizer in stock,, but when you go to checkout it says it is not....

Ordered mine about a week ago but it says it was shipped, now I just gotta get it apart!
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

digitizer replaced
So I followed the tutorial found on android forums, it was relatively easy, i forgot to take pictures of the steps but i can write a tutorial if anyone wants it, because the tutorial on A.F. is a little vague. But I have found a solution to the cracked screen problem, I went to Best Buy to see if they had the Zagg shield (which they do, it's for the Intruder/Aria/Liberty) but they also had a new case which looks a little more resilient against dropping. The case is made by Superior Communications (BB item number 35307BBR) and is pretty rugged looking, anyways let me know if you want a tutorial written up, i will try to get some pics to do it with.

so I'm about to replace mine.. any tutorial with pics available?

for those of you that have ordered and recieved their replacement digitizers, are they AT&T branded still?

msgnyc said:
for those of you that have ordered and recieved their replacement digitizers, are they AT&T branded still?
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Yes they are.. and they are not original part... there are some differences... and after the installation you will have the light that turns on the -home- menu-back-search buttons to filter into the screen. I finished up adding the insurance and getting a brand new for $50.00 and sold the old one for 200

eortizr said:
so I'm about to replace mine.. any tutorial with pics available?
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I can have a tutorial up by tomorrow, unfortunately with pics of the full install but close enough to get you there. The screen I bought was an HTC oem screen and ATT branded, there aren't any that aren't branded so far. Lemme get the tutorial together and ill post it tomorrow.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

eortizr said:
Yes they are.. and they are not original part... there are some differences... and after the installation you will have the light that turns on the -home- menu-back-search buttons to filter into the screen. I finished up adding the insurance and getting a brand new for $50.00 and sold the old one for 200
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I've seen this phone shown off a few times withut the AT&T branding and with just the HTC logo at the top/middle and would prefer that digitizer.
(and no I wasn't mistaking the HD Mini for the Aria lol) Wonder how long before those are available. Probably will have to wait until another carrier gets the phone IF anyone else decides to even pick it up.
The button light issue is quite a drag tho. Sucks. You could try to add some sort of tiny strip above the capacitive buttons area to shield the light from leaking into the viewable screen area.

here is a good video showing a Disassembly of the phone, it might help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMI7sNY5YZg

doing this now...it is a HUGE pain in the ass

ok, to anyone who tries this BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU PULL THE RIBBON OUT
I pulled too hard and like an asshole I broke the "plug" piece off of the ribbon and it's stuck in the "socket"
looks like it's time to try and scam AT&T again

TRUE ? White has better manufacutre than black

im reading more and more, the white version has got a better production quality than the black one. especially, there is almost no curb beside the screen

Do you have any links to support this?

yes, but german forum only. many there got both versions and have seen the difference between both.
there is a rubber material on the white one and so the curb next to the screen is much less than at the black one.
secondly, the white one has no annoying piano material
just wondering, as for my own... i would love the black one much more, but if the quality of the white one is better, than maybe i should buy this one. (have no one yet)

same experience here, look at the pictures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935893&page=3
seems to be a europe "problem"

I have a UK black defy and can't complain of any build quality problems. The ear piece works fine (so far). The only thing I would say is the battery wobbles a bit but if you pack a very thin piece of paper behind the removable back it stops this.

Can you provide a link to the German source?

bobdigby said:
I have a UK black defy and can't complain of any build quality problems. The ear piece works fine (so far). The only thing I would say is the battery wobbles a bit but if you pack a very thin piece of paper behind the removable back it stops this.
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Wait a minute, you have to put a piece of paper in your phone to keep the battery from wobbling... and that's OK? WTF!?

naenee said:
Can you provide a link to the German source?
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http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorola-defy-forum/53962-defy-gehaeuse-schwarz-vs-weiss-8.html

scrannel said:
Wait a minute, you have to put a piece of paper in your phone to keep the battery from wobbling... and that's OK? WTF!?
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Yea its not that bad, only apparant if you shake the phone, not going to lose any sleep over it

scrannel said:
Wait a minute, you have to put a piece of paper in your phone to keep the battery from wobbling... and that's OK? WTF!?
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I have the white UK model (unbranded/unlocked, purchased from CPW) and I have the same issue and yeah, I'd say it's ok as well.
If you shake the phone you can hear a very faint rattling noise from the battery but it doesn't disconnect or anything like that, so I don't see the problem.
Other than that, zero issues with the build quality of my handset.

Here, i bought the white one (only one available) and after two weeks, it gave me the earpiece problem so i sent it back to motorola, getting it today, hopefully it's repaired.
What i think is that the white ones are having the earpiece issues and then the black ones are the new ones without the earpiece problem i believe lol, also it is possible that they used bad visual quality because the money spent on the new earpieces is more? just a guess lol, anyways i found this:
Motorola is aware of a small number of DEFY users who have experienced lost audio through the phone ear-piece speaker. We have identified the source of this issue and have resolved the issue in production. Any consumer who experiences this problem should contact a Motorola customer support centre - here are our contact details.
U.K. Email: https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/utils/login_form/redirect/ask/p_c ountry_code/GB
U.K. Phone: https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/call
If you're looking for support outside the U.K. Please visit the Support site for your region, Choose Mobile Phones and then check the "Contact Us" link in the left column to contact us directly.
Mark
Support Forums Manager
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Seems like they are fixing the problem, that what it seems :S

Evaluated 2 Defy bought at the same time, one is white and one is black...
The black has hard plastic upper case, the white has soft plastic/rubber upper case.
Black: BT19
White: BT04
My balance says the black is 114g and the white is 113g.

999phonebug said:
My balance says the black is 114g and the white is 113g.
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Without the batteries?

shad0wboss said:
What i think is that the white ones are having the earpiece issues and then the black ones are the new ones without the earpiece problem i believe lol, also it is possible that they used bad visual quality because the money spent on the new earpieces is more? just a guess lol
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I recently had my USA T-Mo (white) phone replaced for a different issue and the new one was white with the BT prefix. So, I doubt the color means anything.

shad0wboss said:
Without the batteries?
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With batteries. Strange?