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Stupid question...
Is there any way to increase the base volume level on the Incredible? Listening to podcasts via the speaker phone is sometimes challenging in certain environments. I would like to be able to increase the levels if possible.
Anyone know if this is possible?
I also would like to increase the volume on this , Bluetooth and inbound calls.
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Same, but for all audio out.
There was an app called LVH (Louder Volume Hack) in the market that I purchased when I had my Eris that worked PERFECTLY for this on CM5/CM6/Stock Sense. But the app doesn't appear to work on my Incredible. Which sucks Because I LOVED being able to crank the headset/bluetooth volume.. I would love to see something like this working on the inc..
!EDIT! Apparently I just didn't try enough times because I got the app working on the official OTA 2.2! The app appears to work but I do not think the volume is actualy being increased.. gonna try the 4.0 Beta.
Devs Page: http://androidaudiohacks.com/home/
LVH Apparently Doesn't work for DINC!
Hi Guys,
Purchased the LVH from Meltus, thinking that with root, I'd have no problem using it, but while it did run, and say it had successfully pushed the proper values, it didn't seem to increase the volume. I wrote the dev, & he told me it doesn't work with the Droid Incredible :-(
His site: http://androidaudiohacks.com, does have disclaimers and info indicating the app is for earlier phones like the G1, and Saphire, and doesn't work on Droid, or branded android phones, but not clear enough for idiots like me! He also said in his reply that Google had locked access to the volume files on later phones, and so increasing the volume requires modifying the kernel.
Incredibles are known for blowing out their own speakers. I recommend avoiding this.my speaker is a little blown just with normal use. I now play audio 2 clicks from max volume.
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I've been looking for the same thing. Took a trip a week ago and could not hear a movie with my earphones on the plane ride. I just found a new post last night in the "themes and apps" sub forum titled Audio/Equalizer. It has a this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783737 to a DSP equalizer you can install. You must be rooted. Works well for me with a modest gain in volume and improved sound quality. You can simply put the zip in the root directory of your sd card and use clockwork mod to install the zip. (you may have to toggle signature verification off first). Just make sure to do a Nandroid backup first in case you encounter a problem.
Thanks guys! You both ROCK!
luvit said:
Incredibles are known for blowing out their own speakers. I recommend avoiding this.my speaker is a little blown just with normal use. I now play audio 2 clicks from max volume.
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Thanks, luvit.
I didn't know about the speaker issue. My interest has been more focused on use with headphones, and in-call, which is a different speaker than the one I believe you are referring to.
I noticed the sound from the Incredible rear speaker was quite a bit higher fidelity than on other HTC phones I've owned, which may account for its being a bit more fragile, but that's just speculation. I'll be a lot more careful with it.
marcmarshall said:
I've been looking for the same thing. Took a trip a week ago and could not hear a movie with my earphones on the plane ride. I just found a new post last night in the "themes and apps" sub forum titled Audio/Equalizer. It has a this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783737 to a DSP equalizer you can install. You must be rooted. Works well for me with a modest gain in volume and improved sound quality. You can simply put the zip in the root directory of your sd card and use clockwork mod to install the zip. (you may have to toggle signature verification off first). Just make sure to do a Nandroid backup first in case you encounter a problem.
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Thanks, marcmarshall.
That sounds like it might just do it. Thanks for the links, and instructions, too. I'll definitely give it a try, and reply back to this thread with my experience.
My best to both of you. This is just another example of why xda developer's forums totally ROCK!
Hello Guys,
Can you guys please go to the following link and star that problem, to see if Google can do something about correcting this issue.
this low volume is the biggest complaint about staying stock.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=35084
Why not just use Franco kernel and use volume boost... I just hate filing complaints.
-tapped from my paradigm Franco kernel Galaxy nexus
I have the same problem with a nexus galaxy with jellybean 4.1.1
I found a soluction in web that talk of change a string in system\build.prop
"ro.config.vc_call_vol_steps=" and change its value to 10.
But my problem is that in my build.prop the string there isn't.
How i can solve the low volume on my nexus?
Volume+ (volume boost) don't work, it crash at start
Bump!
If any of you guys have time, please Star that topic.
I know it can easily be fixed via rooting the device or what not.
But i'm kind of over the whole rooting scene in a way and just want to stay stock.
but it bugs me that if my nexus is in my pocket or if im not in a quiet room i can barely hear anything.
i also emailed the google play support team, hopefully they will reply.
i've owned way too many google devices for them to just ignore us like that.
best believe if this issue is not resolved via software update, sad to say but i will be switching over to ios.
reply back from Google Play.
I guess they cant do anything about it.. This sucks.
Hi JC,
Thanks for your response back. I can understand how annoying it can be to
experience low volume on your phone device and having to wait for the
development team to come out with an OTA to fix the issue. Unfortunately,
this information isn't available to us since it's being handled by the
Android development team. I recommend you report the issue directly to the
development team. Here's how you can report platform bugs:
http://developer.android.com/support.html
There is also a chance that the issue might be something Samsung might be
able to either repair or perform a replacement for; depending on how long
you've had your device. If you'd like, you're welcome to give us a call
and we can see if this will help. I'm providing a link to our click to
call below:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy&policy=hardware
If you have any other questions or concerns, please reply back to this
email and I'll be happy to help further.
Regards,
Jay
The Google Play Team
cangri87 said:
Bump!
If any of you guys have time, please Star that topic.
I know it can easily be fixed via rooting the device or what not.
But i'm kind of over the whole rooting scene in a way and just want to stay stock.
but it bugs me that if my nexus is in my pocket or if im not in a quiet room i can barely hear anything.
i also emailed the google play support team, hopefully they will reply.
i've owned way too many google devices for them to just ignore us like that.
best believe if this issue is not resolved via software update, sad to say but i will be switching over to ios.
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If you are just referring to Music / Video audio volume you might want to check out this app.. I haven't tried it.. I'm running CM10 which sounds great...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.omegacentauri.SpeakerBoost&hl=en
I can understand the stock mentality but with a couple adjustments you will get a better than stock - stock experience...
Personally If I wanted to stock-ish, I would flash the stock rom, root, install trinitystable35 kernel, install trickster mod, adjust headphone volume only and then set superuser to deny any root attempt by default without a prompt...
X Fleshcoated said:
I have the same problem with a nexus galaxy with jellybean 4.1.1
I found a soluction in web that talk of change a string in system\build.prop
"ro.config.vc_call_vol_steps=" and change its value to 10.
But my problem is that in my build.prop the string there isn't.
How i can solve the low volume on my nexus?
Volume+ (volume boost) don't work, it crash at start
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If you wanted to add that to your build.prop, you could download Build Prop Editor from the Playstore, create a key named ro.config.vc_call_vol_steps, and give it the value 10. At your own risk, of course.
Do they even test this stuff? It's beyond unacceptable to have a speaker this inaudible. Makes me want to throw my phone every time I try to watch a video.
I added my two cents to the link.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
http://db.tt/tWto1g0U
Download to computer. Extract with 7zip. Move entire media folder to sd and replace/merge current media folder. Might get warning staying device cannot play some files. Ignore. They work.
*Shaolin Shadowboxing *
Weird. I have better than average volume on everything and haven't modified anything other than putting CM10. Might it be a specific version?
Sent from SCH-I535 (CM10 0920) via XDA Premium
ALUCARDDEV said:
Weird. I have better than average volume on everything and haven't modified anything other than putting CM10. Might it be a specific version?
Sent from SCH-I535 (CM10 0920) via XDA Premium
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these ringtones are only ones i can hear.
And I've used multiple roms
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i have updatet to 4.1.2, still the same Problem, shame on google, that's a basic functionality !!! i have tried everything ... it's on ebay now
A simple app from a Play Store does wonders, if you don't want to unlock your phone.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Cyanogenmod is the Way...
I also has got version 4.2.1 and I stock ROM is just fine for me, I never liked CM, but I have got root. A have got problem with volume too, do not hear SMS in my pocket at all.
I did not find the solution, Volume+ boost app still do not work with JB (hopefully will work soon) and Speaker Boost still "stop working", even the old versions.
So, do you know any other solution?
JB 4.1.1 Low volume issue resolved - at lease for me
i had the same issue when i upgraded my stock S3 to 4.1 -- the speaker volume was very low in Nav and music players.
Increasing the "Media" volume fixed it for me.
click on the volume button (up or down) and then click on the settings icon at the end of the slider. Now slide the "Media" volume to the highest.
Everything is back to normal -- in nav audio and speaker phone etc.
If you have not already tried this, you can give it a try ... it might fix it!
htc_fuzer said:
i had the same issue when i upgraded my stock S3 to 4.1 -- the speaker volume was very low in Nav and music players.
Increasing the "Media" volume fixed it for me.
click on the volume button (up or down) and then click on the settings icon at the end of the slider. Now slide the "Media" volume to the highest.
Everything is back to normal -- in nav audio and speaker phone etc.
If you have not already tried this, you can give it a try ... it might fix it!
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I had got problems with ringing and notifications, so this is not solution for me, BUT found another one, Ringtone Maker.
I have upgraded to cm10.1 with jb 4.1.2.....I did the nightly builds for 01-02-2013...
the volume is horrendous.... even worse than stock. I don'tknow what else to try. hopefully it will be fixed in the next night builds......full speakerphone volume soundslikeit's coming from the headsetat full volume.... and the headset volume at full is barely audible even in s quiet room. I turned on the boost in strings but it did nothing. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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also....just curious.... is it normal fir cm10 to take up about 6gb of internal memory? I tried clearing everything out buteven after a clean install that is what it takes up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748803
carinlynchin said:
I have upgraded to cm10.1 with jb 4.1.2.....I did the nightly builds for 01-02-2013...
the volume is horrendous.... even worse than stock. I don'tknow what else to try. hopefully it will be fixed in the next night builds......full speakerphone volume soundslikeit's coming from the headsetat full volume.... and the headset volume at full is barely audible even in s quiet room. I turned on the boost in strings but it did nothing. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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also....just curious.... is it normal fir cm10 to take up about 6gb of internal memory? I tried clearing everything out buteven after a clean install that is what it takes up.
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Try AOKP. It give me loudest sound output.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
So I thought I would give a quick post on my GNEX setup and tell you there is hope for people who love music and hate teh GNEX stock sound/volume.
Go to AOKP.co and get the latest AOKP MR1 Build 2 for your phone model. This is 4.2.1 you will need to wipe coming from anything else (yes a full wipe) treat your phone as you would your butt...You dont want your phone to stink trust me... I would also suggest you visit TWRP's official web site and use your WUG's Nexus tool kit (advanced) to flash this recovery FIRST and Foremost. (Yes I put hings out of order sometimes to make sure your reading)
Get the suggest GAPPS from the AOKP post...
Go grab the latest lean kernel 5.8 for JB 4.2...I love me some Franco but so far his are experimental and Lean is 100% stable (also rocks battery life as much as can be expected on early 4.2.1 builds.
Go grab the AC!D Audio 5.0 (for most phones) I use the Noozoxide add-on (they suggest walkman player but I prefer the DSP so things like Pandora etc will get the benefit.
Flash them in that order and always wipe your dalvik between each package (some people are gonna flame me but hey this works and I shouldnt have to answer a single question afterward) After you reboot and login to Google stuff... First go to settings--> sound-->music effects and select Noozoxide or awesome beats (nothing wrong with either one..as long as you installed it) I have both installed and they wont break anything as long as you dont set them both up...you can switch Ill tell you how later. Afterward go to your app drawer and open the one you chose.
For Noozoxie selct line out audio monitor--> check sof-cliiping---> selct HARD in signal strength...Check deliver natrual sound enabled. First change the digital preset to Audiophile...you can tweak this once you realize its just basically an eqaulizer. The last option VSUR can be check and select studio if you experience rattleing or have garbage headphones... The other options are for built in speaker and bletooth...
You do similar things for amazing beats please feel free to play with them as its really based on how your ears hear/ headphone quality.
If you try one and want to try the other one make sure you uncheck every option in the one that you tried...go back in settings-->sound-->music effects and check the music FX thats built in to android...go into google music play a track go to options at the top right corner select music effects slide the one/off button on then off...go back to sounds-->music effects-->select the one you didnt try the first time... then go to your app drawer and teak the respective app while google music is playing your favorite JAM...
Enjoy your buttery smooth eargasm that I have bestwoed upon you..
-Joe
This has nothing to do with Q&A...but for what it's worth 'Best setup' = Whatever you like as it's YOU that uses the phone not someone else
I'm a DJ and my EQ levels might be crap for someone else and vice versa
OK...
EddyOS said:
This has nothing to do with Q&A...but for what it's worth 'Best setup' = Whatever you like as it's YOU that uses the phone not someone else
I'm a DJ and my EQ levels might be crap for someone else and vice versa
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Yes you are right thats why I didnt give any specific DSP EQ setup information...also if you cant put statements in here they wouldnt have included a box to check that says this is a question...
And furthermore if you dont have Ac!d Audio or the beats+xlouder mod installed your credentials as a DJ are very questionable...If we wanted to be told how something should sound stock we would own iGarbage...
Thanks for your uselessness and inability to post something useful on my thread...Your just gonna look stupid when everyone else starts throwing thanks....
jrgilbert79 said:
Yes you are right thats why I didnt give any specific DSP EQ setup information...also if you cant put statements in here they wouldnt have included a box to check that says this is a question...
And furthermore if you dont have Ac!d Audio or the beats+xlouder mod installed your credentials as a DJ are very questionable...If we wanted to be told how something should sound stock we would own iGarbage...
Thanks for your uselessness and inability to post something useful on my thread...Your just gonna look stupid when everyone else starts throwing thanks....
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I don't use my phone to listen to music Being a DJ I only bother to use my Sennheisers with my Pioneer separates or CDJ/DJM setup
And you'll look stupid when the mods close this thread
jrgilbert79 said:
Thanks for your uselessness and inability to post something useful on my thread...Your just gonna look stupid when everyone else starts throwing thanks....
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what sounds good to you, doesnt sound good to every other person
so just like roms/kernels....
THERE IS NO BEST
EddyOS said:
I don't use my phone to listen to music Being a DJ I only bother to use my Sennheisers with my Pioneer separates or CDJ/DJM setup
And you'll look stupid when the mods close this thread
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So you think you know everything...If it were possible to pit your flat response Sennheisers (cheaply made of plastic) against my v-moda M-100's you would lose everytime...sorry Bro but the fact that you take your phone and another music player with you is cumbersome at best...I understand that you think your doing the best but if you tried AC!D Audio instead of ass-uming you got this you would be extremely surprised...the point of the thread wasn't to tell you what rom it was to tout the sound quality improvment of the audio mods...I just tell people to use aokp cause its 100% working with this and the audio mod is awesome...Personally I dont blame you for not using your phone as an MP3 player...if I had to deal with low volume stock non-sense I would probably use something else as well. Please forgive me for thinking the point of XDA was to improve our phones in some way...Now I know I should just naysay things I havn't even tried based on a complete lack of information.
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This has nothing to do with Q&A...
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See my first post...it's still applicable. Perhaps it belongs somewhere else, that's for mods to decide
And I don't listen to music on my phone OR another music player, you'll never get the EQ right. Plus, the Sennheiser HD 25s are regarded as the DJ-standard headphones so I'll be sticking with them for now
Lies...
Zepius said:
what sounds good to you, doesnt sound good to every other person
so just like roms/kernels....
THERE IS NO BEST
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The concensus for the GNEX is the sound sucks...Also if you havn't tried any of this then please keep your wisdom to yourself...I have never in my life tried to help people jsut to get a bunch of rude flames from trolls...Oh wait yea I use the internet everyday... I can say with 100% truth that this audio mod is better than stock...you can even decide not to tweak any equalizer and its better...there isn't even a doubt that this is better sounding audio...this isnt just some BS poweramp program this improves sound quality accross your phone period...
I don't listen music in my phone.
CM 10.1 is best for me.
Franco's kernel is pretty stable for me.
Ondemand is the best governor
Orion is the best ringtone.
EddyOS said:
See my first post...it's still applicable. Perhaps it belongs somewhere else, that's for mods to decide
And I don't listen to music on my phone OR another music player, you'll never get the EQ right. Plus, the Sennheiser HD 25s are regarded as the DJ-standard headphones so I'll be sticking with them for now
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So you dont listen to music outside of your house? Club? WTF...Ill just take my deck out of my car too cause it cant compair to my setup at home...No one is gonna take you seriously dude...Really I refuse to listen to music on the subway cause its not as good as my home stereo HAHAHAAHAHAH...You know what you sound like I dont even have to waste my breath...
jrgilbert79 said:
So you dont listen to music outside of your house? Club? WTF...Ill just take my deck out of my car too cause it cant compair to my setup at home...No one is gonna take you seriously dude...Really I refuse to listen to music on the subway cause its not as good as my home stereo HAHAHAAHAHAH...You know what you sound like I dont even have to waste my breath...
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Of course not you mong! I have my car, which is set up professionally for my sound/music taste, and I don't have to take public transport. On the odd occasion where I do have to catch a bus/taxi (e.g. I've had a bit too much to drink) I just don't listen to music. I converse with my peers as opposed to sit in silence nodding my head. You can sit there with your phone but it will NEVER be as good as a proper setup so, for that reason, I don't bother. Why should I listen to music when it's nothing like the artist originally intended?
End of the day, you think you've got it right so well done. All I'm saying is 1. This has NOTHING to do with Q&A (I don't remember seeing a thread asking for help with the perfect audio setup), and 2. Everything is subjective so it kinda makes this whole thread redundant. It falls into the same category as the 'This is the best ROM setup' threads
joooe said:
I don't listen music in my phone.
CM 10.1 is best for me.
Franco's kernel is pretty stable for me.
Ondemand is the best governor
Orion is the best ringtone.
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And you can keep being lack luster...Its about the audio mod not the rom...I only posted AOKP (saying this again) because other roms have issues and it doesnt. So I have been flashing Roms since the Droid 1 and I know quite a bit...More than you I dont know...I have no way to test your knowledge or lack there of...Also Interactive is pretty good...on-demand tends to have a sluggish wake up when coming out of sleep...I suppose if I had created a governer called bigwanginaymouth I could tout that and have everyones mouth wattering ...pun intended.
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So you dont listen to music outside of your house? Club? WTF...Ill just take my deck out of my car too cause it cant compair to my setup at home...No one is gonna take you seriously dude...Really I refuse to listen to music on the subway cause its not as good as my home stereo HAHAHAAHAHAH...You know what you sound like I dont even have to waste my breath...
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jrgilbert79 said:
The concensus for the GNEX is the sound sucks...Also if you havn't tried any of this then please keep your wisdom to yourself...I have never in my life tried to help people jsut to get a bunch of rude flames from trolls...Oh wait yea I use the internet everyday... I can say with 100% truth that this audio mod is better than stock...you can even decide not to tweak any equalizer and its better...there isn't even a doubt that this is better sounding audio...this isnt just some BS poweramp program this improves sound quality accross your phone period...
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you know why you're getting flamed? because you're being a rude, condescending person.
now this is the part where i critique your guide and rip it apart.
1) you recommend a toolkit, worst idea ever. lets have people mod their phone with no knowledge of what they are doing. thats a great idea.
2) you throw your opinions in the mix like they are the end all be all about kernels. every kernel runs different on every phone
3) your guide jumps around and is not a clear guide at all.
4) your step by step instructions are medicore at best. the steps are so fuzzy inside that guide its basically not worth reading.
5) this line: Enjoy your buttery smooth eargasm that I have bestwoed upon you..
is not needed.
6) you're trolling for thanks and not actually interested in helping.
EddyOS said:
Of course not you mong! I have my car, which is set up professionally for my sound/music taste, and I don't have to take public transport. On the odd occasion where I do have to catch a bus/taxi (e.g. I've had a bit too much to drink) I just don't listen to music. I converse with my peers as opposed to sit in silence nodding my head. You can sit there with your phone but it will NEVER be as good as a proper setup so, for that reason, I don't bother. Why should I listen to music when it's nothing like the artist originally intended?
End of the day, you think you've got it right so well done. All I'm saying is 1. This has NOTHING to do with Q&A (I don't remember seeing a thread asking for help with the perfect audio setup), and 2. Everything is subjective so it kinda makes this whole thread redundant. It falls into the same category as the 'This is the best ROM setup' threads
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All I can say is that Ac!d Audio is not at all subjective...Its not even in the same ballpark...Its not somethign that most people are going to attribute to a placebo and for people who dont listen to music on there phone for whatever rediculous reason......it also improves notification and ringtone volume so you might actually hear a call/text from 30 feet away...what is your F'ing problem...if you cant take a backup and try something new you really really really dont need to be here at all. And thats the most truthful truth (I would go as far to say non-subjective definitive statement) that has been made here today. <---Just call me a cowboy for not thanking Samsung and Google for making the audio of the Galaxy Nexus the saddest attempt ever made...
jrgilbert79 said:
All I can say is that Ac!d Audio is not at all subjective...Its not even in the same ballpark...Its not somethign that most people are going to attribute to a placebo and for people who dont listen to music on there phone for whatever rediculous reason......it also improves notification and ringtone volume so you might actually hear a call/text from 30 feet away...what is your F'ing problem...if you cant take a backup and try something new you really really really dont need to be here at all. And thats the most truthful truth (I would go as far to say non-subjective definitive statement) that has been made here today. <---Just call me a cowboy for not thanking Samsung and Google for making the audio of the Galaxy Nexus the saddest attempt ever made...
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Hey, I'm all for giving something a go but this isn't something I have any need for. If I wasn't game for flashing something I wouldn't be using Android! May I also ask why not listening to music on a PHONE (key word there) is ridiculous? My phone is a communications tool for my work and personal life, so it's primary use is calls (obviously), SMS, email, Twitter, Facebook and Internet access. I don't game on it, I don't listen to music on it.
I don't need a high volume ringer cause my phone is always in my pocket (not 30 feet away - what's the point of a mobile phone that you don't keep on you?) so for me this guide is useless. I'm sure some may find it useful if you re-wrote it to make a bit more sense.
My ORIGINAL issue was it has nothing to do with Q&A - where is the question you've answered? If it's a guide then it should really go in the thread for the app in question to help users of that app set their phones up or, at a push, General for Nexus owners
As a professional audio engineer, sounds like to me like you're being fooled simply by volume and compression. No, I have not installed and listened to the programs you're talking about. I'm simply judging them by the names of the settings you're saying to tweak. Hard signal strength to me means loud (most things sound better when they're louder), soft clipping means it's allowing the system to slightly peak (distort) while placing a brick wall limiter in the audio path to allow the audio to be a loud as possible without actually giving the listener a distorted listening experience. This what what radio stations do. I would guess that if you were to take the headphone jack out to a recording interface and record the audio coming out, it would be nothing but a solid blocked waveform with no dynamic range.
Do your ears often feel fatigued after listening to music with these settings?
Here's an image that shows you what I'm talking about. This is actually comparing a song on vinyl to the same song on a CD but it get's my point across. The top waveforms are vinyl and the bottom are from the CD. Notice the clear peaks and valleys in the vinyl waveforms compared to the hard flat edges seen on the cd waveforms. Now imagine the CD waveforms compressed even more and that's probably what you're listening to.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...stering-vinyl-vs-cd-in_rainbows_waveforms.jpg
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As a professional audio engineer, sounds like to me like you're being fooled simply by volume and compression. No, I have not installed and listened to the programs you're talking about. I'm simply judging them by the names of the settings you're saying to tweak. Hard signal strength to me means loud (most things sound better when they're louder), soft clipping means it's allowing the system to slightly peak (distort) while placing a brick wall limiter in the audio path to allow the audio to be a loud as possible without actually giving the listener a distorted listening experience. This what what radio stations do. I would guess that if you were to take the headphone jack out to a recording interface and record the audio coming out, it would be nothing but a solid blocked waveform with no dynamic range.
Do your ears often feel fatigued after listening to music with these settings?
Here's an image that shows you what I'm talking about. This is actually comparing a song on vinyl to the same song on a CD but it get's my point across. The top waveforms are vinyl and the bottom are from the CD. Notice the clear peaks and valleys in the vinyl waveforms compared to the hard flat edges seen on the cd waveforms. Now imagine the CD waveforms compressed even more and that's probably what you're listening to.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/atta...stering-vinyl-vs-cd-in_rainbows_waveforms.jpg
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Thank you for your post. I appreciate the information. I don't understand what you mean by being fooled though. Your ears hear what they hear. You are 100% correct about everything the only thing I can tell you is using your phone with headphones (preferably B-class driver CANS) sounds really good. The reason for Hard somcpression and sof-clipping specifically with this device is the audio is so low to begin with if you can force the DAC to go louder these settings sound good possible because of the lack of vloume already on the phone. I do tend to turn things down a few notches now to make it comfortable for longer periods. Before the phone would fatigue my ears and sound terrible because I was forced to turn it up all the way just to enjoy the music. (rocking out if you will) This audio plug actually gives the device responsive bass...The DSP settings do use virtualization tricks to make the sound more pleasant however the untweakable sound engines installed are very real and use some beats,some dobly, xlouder from sony, etc etc etc. The best advice I can give you is just flash it ...after a backup of course. As long as you rom is up to date it should work and I would really appreciate if reverred opinions from sound engineers would lend some credability to the post.
Thanks much, -OP :highfive:
Is this post really about purity of sound? In a smartphone?
joooe said:
Is this post really about purity of sound? In a smartphone?
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Hey this post is about teaking lemons and making lemondade...Honestly the phone is awesome even for an old Gal except audio. Will this mod be as good as a professional setup? NO! But why hinder people who have the phone and want to use it to play music while they do (whatever). No one should judge me because I listen to music on it instead of exclusively on something that cost thousands of dollars. That being said...I am at a loss for words why no one has went over to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923630
...and tried it. When it takes 5-10 minutes to make a backup on CWM or TWRP and flash something that you could use while ..(lets say camping) to listen to tunes pleasantly instead of barely being able to drown out the wildlife noises. Discalimer: The MOD will not force you to listen to music exclusively on your smart phone. It might however open up narrow minds to the the ability of the phone to be far superior to an iPOD. So please try this, even if you do there is not need to revert because it doesnt break or take away from anything it only betters your device should you get stuck in an elevator with someone you hate maybe you can make there annoying voice disappear.
What I can say 100% is this is BETTER than stock period. There is no question and unless you have tried it and didn't like it then you can't contribute here. It MIGHT be the BEST audio setup for the phone right now...will we have something better in the future? I don't know but it will probably be AC!D AUDIO 6.0 (the updated MOD).
And just to clarify I could not give two douces if anyone thanks me...I don't know you, will never know you, and really would refuse to shake most of your hands if I did meet you because no one has done anything to help in this thread so far. People are so rediculous that they havnt even been searching for something to fix the poor audio that I have been crawling forums since Nov 2011 when I stood in line for 3 hours just to say AWwwwwww...when I fired up the music player. Now it is acceptable and I want to pass on the good word. All I have gotten is flak from DJ's and forum etiquette gurus.
Thanks, Joe :fingers-crossed:
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Thank you for your post. I appreciate the information. I don't understand what you mean by being fooled though. Your ears hear what they hear. You are 100% correct about everything the only thing I can tell you is using your phone with headphones (preferably B-class driver CANS) sounds really good. The reason for Hard somcpression and sof-clipping specifically with this device is the audio is so low to begin with if you can force the DAC to go louder these settings sound good possible because of the lack of vloume already on the phone. I do tend to turn things down a few notches now to make it comfortable for longer periods. Before the phone would fatigue my ears and sound terrible because I was forced to turn it up all the way just to enjoy the music. (rocking out if you will) This audio plug actually gives the device responsive bass...The DSP settings do use virtualization tricks to make the sound more pleasant however the untweakable sound engines installed are very real and use some beats,some dobly, xlouder from sony, etc etc etc. The best advice I can give you is just flash it ...after a backup of course. As long as you rom is up to date it should work and I would really appreciate if reverred opinions from sound engineers would lend some credability to the post.
Thanks much, -OP :highfive:
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By "fooled" I mean, listen to a song you're unfamiliar with at a low-moderate volume, then listen to it with just a 3-5db gain... you'll think the slightly louder version sounds a lot better. Try it out.
Along those same lines, why do you think the general, non-audiophile, public thinks Beats headphones are the greatest thing since ice cream? Aside from them being the trendy accessory to ones wardrobe, people swear by their sound. I can say that I have listened to several Beats headphones, do they sound bad? No, I'd venture to say they sound good but not great. I'd never own a pair and I certainly would never use them in the studio. So why do so many people think they're so awesome? Because they are designed to have an over-hyped bass and treble response. People hear hyped bass and think "DANG! This is pumpin!" then they notice the extra treble and say "wow, these sound crisp!" They're being fooled and they're also being forced to listen to the music in a way that wasn't intended.
You were dogging something one else for using "flat-response" Sennheiser's, remember? The fact is, flat response headphones, earphones, speakers, and studio monitors is what audiophiles go after. Flat doesn't mean dull or boring, it means clean, pure, and untainted. With a flat response speaker you're hearing what the audio truly sounds like, which then allows you to make better adjustments to the audio. Think about it, if I mix a song using Beats headphones and then you play it back in your car, they first thing you'd say is "Where's the bass?" Well, my ears were fooled by the over-hyped bass on the Beats that I thought it had plenty! You'd then notice how the track doesn't sound very clean and crisp, why? Because once again the over-hyped treble of the Beats threw my ears off and made me think the high end was where it needed to be and any more adjustments to it would just make it sound tinny.
Hopefully that helps.
I made a post on a Portal audio mod for the S-Pen and thought I would search and find some sweet sounds for different system sounds. Use a Root Browser (I used Rom Toolbox) to move them into:
System
Media
Audio
Ui
You must be rooted and have the permissions set to rw- r-- r-- on the sound files.
I will update and post new mods as I find them. Please feel free to post your mods or make suggestions.
Here is the post of my Portal S-Pen sound mod.
chuko303 has kindly shared a few very good sound mods in this post as well. Please check them out if you like the system sounds mods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113328
Also if anyone forgets to make a backup of the stock audio files, I have one and can upload it for whomever needs it.
[mod] Misc system sounds
Here is a low battery file that I haven't yet heard yet due to the awesome battery our phone has. It is the Pac-Man death sound we all know well.
My phone finally got down to 15% batter last night and personally I think the Pac-Man sound is f'ing sweet for the low battery sound.
Here is the like for it
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390288116658473834
This next one is a real good one for you Metal Gear Solid fans. It includes the codec open and close files for the S-Pen and the alert sound for the battery low tone.
Here is the link
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390288116658473833
[mod] Misc system sounds
Archer themed sound mod
If anyone is a fan of the animated show Archer then you will love this mod pack that I am working on. I currently have multiple mods for different actions but I am not quite finished yet. Below is what I have so far.
S-Pen Detach 1 - Archer "Wait I had something for this."
S-Pen Attach 1 - Archer "Damn, I had something for this."
S-Pen Detach 2 - Kreiger "Aww, pigly."
S-Pen Attach 2 - Kreiger "Aww, goatly."
Power Off - Archer "Pam, I will end you."
Power On -Archer "Don't you see me rocking this hard slab of chiseled man body?"
Message Alert - Dr. Kreiger "Zing"
Low Battery - Archer "Danger zone"
Charger Connection - Archer "Just the tip!"
Link
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390288116658474980
* I will upload an updated zip as I make changes. *
These are awesome thanks for your time in making these.
Doing something wrong?
scratch the following. I moved them, set the permissions, deleted the noti2 files and renamed the new ones to replace them. they then showed up in the spen notification selector in settings.
I'm fairly new at all of this modding, but getting better at it I think. I copied the files over and extracted them, moved them to the system/media/audio/ui folder, replaced the files, and set permissions on the files to rw-r--r-- but it's still not making the sound when I attach and detach the pen. I can even select the files from the ui folder and play the sounds, so I know the sound is there. Is there something I'm not doing or should be doing? Any help would be really appreciated.
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Here is a low battery file that I haven't yet heard yet due to the awesome battery our phone has. It is the Pac-Man death sound we all know well.
My phone finally got down to 15% batter last night and personally I think the Pac-Man sound is f'ing sweet for the low battery sound.
Here is the like for it
http://db.tt/C5KoHszo
This next one is a real good one for you Metal Gear Solid fans. It includes the codec open and close files for the S-Pen and the alert sound for the battery low tone.
Here is the link
http://db.tt/rv5nuiFw
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G1Master said:
These are awesome thanks for your time in making these.
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Thanks, I'm currently working on a full archer sound theme. I've got a few done at the moment. I'll start posting them here when I get off work today. Be warned now, some of them may be slightly suggestive so use them at your own risk
The Archer sound theme is up and labeled. I have a few alternative sounds for some of them that I will be adding as well.
Nice mods, do you happen to know what file the phone dialer water drop sound is? I would love to change it.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app
are the zips flashable?
anahataray said:
Nice mods, do you happen to know what file the phone dialer water drop sound is? I would love to change it.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app
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Okay, I think I found the file you asked about. The one I found is called Dialer_new.ogg. if that's not the one, would you be talking about the double beep that's made when a call is started?
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No, they are not flashable. Just have to move the files with a root browser to the files mentioned in the op...
anahataray said:
Nice mods, do you happen to know what file the phone dialer water drop sound is? I would love to change it.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app
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This was posted in the S3 forum but It works Perfectly on my Note2 and Note 10.1 just thought I'd share the link. If this is posted before forgive me I searched and did not see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9Bkt25i0w
Hello Mates.
I feel that Earphones and Calls on this phone is not Loud enough for a Powered Audio Device like this.
So i was wondering: since there's no working flashable supersu.zip, and Magisk doesn't let me edit System Files, in this case i'm talking about Mixer_Paths.xml on the folder "/vendor/etc".
1 - Is there any other way to edit this file?, since mounting R/W doesn't work and changing permissions is denied.
2 - Is there any MOD or Magisk Module that let's me edit system files? or that let's me Increase Sound Volume?.
Please help cause this is the only thing that's keeping me from loving this phone , i know that since this is a gaming phone there are a few less good things but i'm good with it because to me Design, Audio and Performance is the most important, and photos are good enough on this phone.
Thanks
Edit:
About solution, i created a new thread with the solution here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu...lls-volume-t4154475/post83373375#post83373375 .
Givi it a look ?.
Have a nice Day ?
Crazy Seed said:
Hello Mates.
I feel that Earphones and Calls on this phone is not Loud enough for a Powered Audio Device like this.
So i was wondering: since there's no working flashable supersu.zip, and Magisk doesn't let me edit System Files, in this case i'm talking about Mixer_Paths.xml on the folder "/vendor/etc".
1 - Is there any other way to edit this file?, since mounting R/W doesn't work and changing permissions is denied.
2 - Is there any MOD or Magisk Module that let's me edit system files? or that let's me Increase Sound Volume?.
Please help cause this is the only thing that's keeping me from loving this phone , i know that since this is a gaming phone there are a few less good things but i'm good with it because to me Design, Audio and Performance is the most important, and photos are good enough on this phone.
Thanks
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hello how was this SOLVED? could you post the solution please? thanks!
mac231us said:
hello how was this SOLVED? could you post the solution please? thanks!
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Hello. Does this mean that you feel the same problem as well?.
About solution, i creared a new thread with the solution here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu...lls-volume-t4154475/post83373375#post83373375 .
Givi it a look and say something buddy ?.
Have a nice Day ?
Crazy Seed said:
Hello. Does this mean that you feel the same problem as well?.
About solution, i creared a new thread with the solution here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu...lls-volume-t4154475/post83373375#post83373375 .
Givi it a look and say something buddy ?.
Have a nice Day ?
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EDIT I did receive a reply on my question about in call ui (small pictures-typical of most OEMs these days)
Hello thanks! so I should have made myself more clear but was also curious about the solution. I do not own the device but am considering getting one-so wanted to know solutions and possibly answers to common things (volume (am all for high incall volume and loud ringers , loud playbacks, brightness etc). I did take a look at your solution and will use it once I get the device. Not too much into the more complex stuff but flashing zips for the mixer xml is up my alley. One question: I asked this elsewhere but maybe you can answer this. How does the call UI and contacts interface look? Not that this phone is necessarily for eye candy ui, want to know if you have full size contact pictures or those small round ones (that appear in the top middle of the screen during a call) If you could post some screenshots or pictures that would help. If you can. Let me know. This device with its unlocking ability and some development is getting my interest. Appreciate it.