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help please applications constantly "computing"

in manage applications all apps are stuck at "computing" and will of stop. It used to be fixed by restoring my phone to an earlier date but now it just doesn't work.
Apps2sd, disk usage, and unmounting the SD card do not work. Force closing.
In the market I cannot install or uninstall apps.
And when I restart ill lose access to the apps on my SD card. But I can access all info using a task manager or taking the card out and accessing it from my pc.
Is my internal memory failing?
I don't know what else to do Ive tried so much.
Restore backup factory reset SD card format etc.
Froyo 2.2 stock rooted.
Any ideas?,I'm desperate.
Thank you.

Wipe completely and try a different ROM like CM6. If you're still getting the same problem, then it's a hardware issue and you're hosed. Run the RUU at that point, and take it in to get a replacement, and hope for the best.

How long do you give it? If you have a lot of apps, it might just take a lot longer than your are expecting, since it has to load the data for everything. I'd recommend just giving it a little more time (unless you already do). Before Froyo, even with just a handful of apps it seriously took around 3 minutes to load that kind of information.

I've given it up to 45 minutes at times, several times after a recovery it would all fully finish computing, then after i install an app or something to that effect it seems it 'breaks' again.
I tried other ROMs and after the first few apps i begin to reinstall it does it again. So i took a break, recovered it and went to bed. This morning it seems to be doing fine and now i'm reading there were market issues with other people last night, could this be connected? Is the market that integrated into the phone that it could cause issues like this?
i'm emailing HTC for some advice because i can't find a specific google/android technical support email address about the issue.

ii'm in the same boat.all my apps are stuck on computing. i cant even unistall, or move apps. the only positive is that i can still run all my apps. but i cant install anything new as it stays stuck on installing and never installs the app. this seems like a problem with froyo.

Mine does this ever since I installed modInstallLocation, and moved a ton of stuff over to the SD card. If I ever have to reboot for some reason, or if I have to use the phone as a USB device, most of the time the apps never recover. Sometimes (rarely) a reboot fixes it, but most of the time I have to pull the battery, pull the card, reboot several times before it will finally get all my apps back. It seems completely random. I can't uninstall or install anything either until everything is back to normal. It happened again last night, and I still haven't gotten it to recover. I let the thing "compute" all night (7 hours) with no luck.
btw, this is my second sd card, so I don't think its bad.
UPDATE: I got them all back! I wiped the Dalvik cache from within Clockwork Mod, and about 4-5 minutes after I rebooted, there they were!!!

[Q] Couldn't capture screenshot. Storage may be in use.

Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
I was running 4.0.4 IMM30B leak. The new leak/possible update came out, I decided to flash it. Saw that it was only good for updating from 4.0.2 (ICL53F), so I wiped, formatted, and reinstalled it. Re set up my phone (titanium backup, homescreens, android market updates for a few apps, the basics). Everything seemed fine, though I didn't try saving anything. Ran the update to the new 4.0.4, and everything seemed fine and dandy.
The next day, titanium backup runs (scheduled) and fails. Says not enough storage or something despite the fact that it also shows ~14GB free space...
Tried to take a screenshot of the issue, and I get a notification that it "Couldn't capture screenshot." "Couldn't save screenshot. Storage may be in use."
Curious, I tried to take a picture with the system camera app, and it doesn't seem to save pictures either. Though no error messages tell me such things.
Caching seems to work, updating apps seems to work, using 'most' apps seems to work, but saving data to the virtual SDcard has no such luck.
Assuming that it's a permissions issue, I went into CWM Recovery and did a 'fix permissions.' Though that has not fixed anything.
Various searches have shown me that others have experienced this problem, but I haven't seen anyone with a solution. Also, they seem to be experiencing it in various AOKP roms (specifically for the Transformer tablet).
Question: Anyone know what I can do to fix it?

Haha this happened to me and no1 could answer it happened when i went from aokp m4 to m5.. Was odd, but what i did to fix was relock and unlock the bootloader and then get all my stuff back with titanium.. At least that worked fine for me
Edit: well i relocked restarted system and boot android, then reboot into bootloader and unlocked again, then boot into android (fresh new system) and im writing this from my fixed phone 1 week ago.. No problems so far
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msedek said:
Haha this happened to me and no1 could answer it happened when i went from aokp m4 to m5.. Was odd, but what i did to fix was relock and unlock the bootloader and then get all my stuff back with titanium.. At least that worked fine for me
Edit: well i relocked restarted system and boot android, then reboot into bootloader and unlocked again, then boot into android (fresh new system) and im writing this from my fixed phone 1 week ago.. No problems so far
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Glad to hear that there is a fix. I may end up doing this tonight... I'm hoping that a quicker, simpler fix is available (something like boot an insecure.img and change permissions of these folders via adb, or something).
Thanks for that though, as I now know that it should work.

Happening on GSM Galaxy Nexus as well. I tried a rom over milestone 5, then reinstalled milestone 5 and restored my backup, and then got this problem. Seems sdcard is not writable to at all. Gonna try out the bootloader locking stuff i guess.

I ended up using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit (for time and automated simplicity) to wipe the device, reflash 4.0.2 (signed by Google), reroot, CWM reccovery, and restore the virtual sdcard backup saved with the toolkit.
Once the virtual sd was restored, I restored my apps (but no system apps) with titanium backup. Haven't had the time since to reupgrade to 4.0.4, but 4.0.2 seems to be working for me nicely.
I am able to screenshot, and nice things like that, but sometimes titanium backup is giving me errors about not being able to save due to insufficient space (still 14GB free). Gonna dive into that issue today.

4.0.2 works good.. What its bad about it its the lag, the ROM its laggy and also the battery life and the photo quality.. ICS now its much better than 4.0.2
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No fix?
I'm also getting this problem and only since installing android 4.3 from CM 10.2
I have also noticed that when I connect by USB to my PC I can't see anything but the external sd card whereas in the past I've been able to see 3 devices - ext sd, int sd and system. This makes me think it's permissions but I'm not sure what to change and where.
I need a screenshot to send a picture of an mms issue I'm having and can't re-install/restore whatever as this deletes the mms with the problem so I need a fix that leaves the phone as it is except for this repair.
Any help appreciated.

Redscorpian said:
I'm also getting this problem and only since installing android 4.3 from CM 10.2
I have also noticed that when I connect by USB to my PC I can't see anything but the external sd card whereas in the past I've been able to see 3 devices - ext sd, int sd and system. This makes me think it's permissions but I'm not sure what to change and where.
I need a screenshot to send a picture of an mms issue I'm having and can't re-install/restore whatever as this deletes the mms with the problem so I need a fix that leaves the phone as it is except for this repair.
Any help appreciated.
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Dat gravedig.
Just try reflashing your device from a stock image.

Beauenheim said:
Dat gravedig.
Just try reflashing your device from a stock image.
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And do you think that'll be leaving it as it is?

I fixed this deleting the "pictures" folder with RootExplorer.

jwiegand said:
I fixed this deleting the "pictures" folder with RootExplorer.
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Tried booting in t recovery fixing permissions, tried delete the screenshot folder and tried wiping the dalvik... Never thought of deleting the Pictures folder. Solved it for me to! (This problem just occurred without me flashing a new rom or anything. A ~9 month old AOKP and the error just came up after a reboot)
Thanks jwiegand!

bergmanman said:
Tried booting in t recovery fixing permissions, tried delete the screenshot folder and tried wiping the dalvik... Never thought of deleting the Pictures folder. Solved it for me to! (This problem just occurred without me flashing a new rom or anything. A ~9 month old AOKP and the error just came up after a reboot)
Thanks jwiegand!
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I'm on a different phone, but I fixed this issue by clearing the defaults for the program that launched pictures. In my case, I use Gallery, so in Program Info under Settings, I reset defaults and everything worked fine. I guess this is the same thing as deleting the Pictures folder since I believe it is an issue of 'releasing' the memory that remains in use by your respective program. For all future requests as to which program should be used to launch a file (or picture in this case), I never select the option that binds future requests to one specific program. Hope that helps .

My fix: re enable the media scanner!
Like many others, I have disabled the DRM and media scanner services because of the bug that caused ridiculous cpu usage (particularly on boot). Re enabling the media scanner fixed this problem right up. If you want a free and easy utility to do this, check out: "Rescan Media ROOT"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot
Disclaimer: I am not associated with the author of that app.

On some devices (such as Infuse, as was in my case), the only solution was to manually create Pictures/Screenshots (full path: /sdcard/Pictures/Screenshots or /storage/sdcard0/Pictures/Screeshots). I created them with Root Explorer.
Had tried all other solutions, but they did not work. Seems that the power button Screenshop would neither create Pictures nor Pictures/Screenshots.

TulsaDavid said:
On some devices (such as Infuse, as was in my case), the only solution was to manually create Pictures/Screenshots (full path: /sdcard/Pictures/Screenshots or /storage/sdcard0/Pictures/Screeshots). I created them with Root Explorer.
Had tried all other solutions, but they did not work. Seems that the power button Screenshop would neither create Pictures nor Pictures/Screenshots.
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I tried all the previous solutions without success, but manually creating the Pictures/Screenshots folder worked flawlessly on my LG 4X.
Thanks TulsaDavid!

TulsaDavid said:
On some devices (such as Infuse, as was in my case), the only solution was to manually create Pictures/Screenshots (full path: /sdcard/Pictures/Screenshots or /storage/sdcard0/Pictures/Screeshots). I created them with Root Explorer.
Had tried all other solutions, but they did not work. Seems that the power button Screenshop would neither create Pictures nor Pictures/Screenshots.
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Thanks alot! Worked for me!!

Thanks, TulsaDavid!
Making screenshots folder solved it for me aswell.

Unable to take Screenshot, USB storage maybe in use
TulsaDavid said:
On some devices (such as Infuse, as was in my case), the only solution was to manually create Pictures/Screenshots (full path: /sdcard/Pictures/Screenshots or /storage/sdcard0/Pictures/Screeshots). I created them with Root Explorer.
Had tried all other solutions, but they did not work. Seems that the power button Screenshop would neither create Pictures nor Pictures/Screenshots.
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I have tried using home+power button, turned on swipe and had difficulty in using the S PEN to make the screenshot - still doesnt work.
I also tried making a new folder but still doesnt work.
My unit is Samsung Note 8.0

/sdcard permissions broken
Just had this happen on my Nexus 5.
The cause was using adb push to copy files to /sdcard when I was booted into recovery. All the files and folders were owned by root:root. I had to reboot to recovery, adb shell, and then
Code:
chown -R media_rw:media_rw /data/media/0
It might be possible to do this while booted in android with Connectbot or something, but I didn't try that.

TulsaDavid said:
On some devices (such as Infuse, as was in my case), the only solution was to manually create Pictures/Screenshots (full path: /sdcard/Pictures/Screenshots or /storage/sdcard0/Pictures/Screeshots). I created them with Root Explorer.
Had tried all other solutions, but they did not work. Seems that the power button Screenshop would neither create Pictures nor Pictures/Screenshots.
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Thank you TulsaDavid. This helped me tremendously. You're a deity!
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[Q] stuck at CM boot design

So I have a KF running twa_priv's CM10/sgt7 20121112 build. I was watching a movie on the Freedi Youtube downloader before a parade this morning with headphones. I pulled them out and turned the screen off because there were floats approaching. After the ~2 hour parade, I tried turning it on. It had gone to a(n?) SOD, so I just restarted it like I always do and held down the power button for 10 seconds. I turned it back on and let it run. About 3ish minutes later I look at it and it is still on the blue CM circle bootloader. I forced it off by another 10 sec hold on the power button, then went into TWRP (2.2.2.1) after it turned back on. I chose the fix errors under the advanced option, and also flashed the 20121119 build of the ROM that I had previously downloaded. I wiped cache/dalvik and restarted system. I waited for more than an hour on the CM boot screen before I forced off again. I then went back into TWRP, copied the log to SD, and chose the mount system. I had it connected to my computer, but it didn't show any connected devices, didn't alert me via autoplay choices (or whatever it's called), and when I restarted the adb server, my kindle didn't show up there either. Also, twice during TWRP the KF froze on me and had to force restart. I am sure a complete system wipe would work, but I would rather just have this fixed.
Any ideas?
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And BTW, I have tried reseting the boot menu thingy from initial bootup using the power button which didn't work

Start fresh....save urself some headache
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guitarman2010 said:
Start fresh....save urself some headache
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I know that is the easy alternative, but I have sideloaded so many apps, and have a whole bunch of changed ui options, I am really hoping that there is an alternative.
Maybe Thepooch has some words of wisdom? I think his (your) comments are really helpful, and actually seem to help.
No offense to anyone, especially guitarman2010.

jma9454 said:
I know that is the easy alternative, but I have sideloaded so many apps, and have a whole bunch of changed ui options, I am really hoping that there is an alternative.
Maybe Thepooch has some words of wisdom? I think his (your) comments are really helpful, and actually seem to help.
No offense to anyone, especially guitarman2010.
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I know nothing compared to Thepooch lol.......I always keep backup apks on my Kindle because I flash different ROMs all the time
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....

I use three different apps for backing up apk file the only downside is significant weight gain. Lots of people use titanium backup I do as well but really only for very little. I also use easy app manager and apk manager but often I`m stricken with considerable consumption of sdcard space so at this point I have scaled back to just using easy app manager for the majority. Things I really want to save I backup on my pc upload to Google drive and dropbox. Seems like overkill but time and time again I will get an update that is horrible and wish revert back to an older version and Google drive and dropbox are a mere download away without sucking away precious and limited kindle space. I don`t believe I know any more than anyone else I just do what is easy for me. I too flash Roms like crazy re-installing is and can be a weekly ritual depending on how smooth things are running. Guitarman2010 is right though A fresh install of your Rom is a very good idea. As for the adb issue there are minor device changes on jelly bean that can affect adb make sure you have the correct settings in developer options. In KFU delete this file and replace it http://db.tt/vXXeuL10 located in the kindle driver folder and reinstall the driver I have been making changes to it with ICS and jelly bean to keep adb working hope it helps.

I usually keep 2 or 3 ROMs handy on the Kindle SD ready to be flashed.......I never take off the Amazon update (6.3.1) just to be safe. My backup apk folder only has 205mb of usage and I use File Expert to make backups of the apks. I too also use the PC for even more backups and 4shared so I can easily transfer apps back and forth from the Kindle to a crappy low-end Samsung phone running Froyo. I'm getting off topic here so I'll shut-up lol
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....

So I wiped cache, dalvik cache, factory reset. I didn't wipe SD card, cause i am hoping to get the files out eventually.Everything seemed fine, but I still can't connect it to the computer! I have it open to TWRP and selected mount, and same as before; no connected devices in device manager, no adb devices, and no autoplay window pops up to let me open files in the drive. I also had the 20121119 cm10/sgt7 in the sd card, so I flashed it, and rebooted, but I am still left at the CM logo. What can I do now? I replaced the file you said to in adb. I happen to have used Titanium Backup, too, a while back, so I have about 2/3 of my sideloaded apps.
Please help!
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I was looking at other Q&A's to help and for help, and saw that Soupkit is recommended to a lot of people.
Would this help me?
OR could I do some sort of terminal commands inside the advanced section of TWRP?

Your kindle isn`t ruined and if your having mounting issues then Soupkit would work great. Before you do anything anything drastic I will take my laptop to work and help you fix your kindle.

NFS: MW issue with data when switching Roms

I have been trying for the life of me to figure out the way, or if it's possible to keep progress from the game when updating or switching roms. As of now, Titanium Backup doesn't work, or does saving the data/game files and transferring them. Once you try to do either, it says that your unauthorized. Then you have to start fresh and re-download the 2 million gig game and files. I contacted firemonkey and they said rooted devices aren't supported. Don't remember seeing that on play, and it should be. Regardless, I paid for the game.....why am I not authorized to continue progress, and forced to start over from scratch when the newest version of pie is out? There has to be a way to keep progress....?:fingers-crossed:

I'm not sure how much this will help you but maybe it will be what you are looking for:
I recently had a problem where NFS:WM would crash on startup, and apparently the only thing to do (according to firemonkey) is just clear data and lose all progress. Having almost completed everything, I wasn't having any of that.
I'm not rooted but do have my bootloader unlocked so that I can fastboot TWRP to do backups, which also happens to give me root access when booted into TWRP. I made a backup and looked through it to try and and a problem. No luck there, but I did figure out that the game progress is stored in a single file. No config data or anything as far as I can tell, just the progress. So I cleared the data, ran the game through the first level, then copied that old progress file over the new one and I had it back up and going with all progress intact. It's basically a clean install, and since all of the config data is still part of the new install, it didn't cause me any problems.
I did download all of the game data again ultimately, however. But an earlier test of saving "/sdcard/Android/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/" and putting it back to avoid the download did work, although it could have been a fluke.
Anyway the file in question is "/data/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/files/var/nfstr_save.sb". Just save that one file, install the game from scratch otherwise, run it the first time, then copy that saved progress file over the new one. Assuming that there isn't anything else going on that I didn't find, that should solve your problem.

mtrs said:
I'm not sure how much this will help you but maybe it will be what you are looking for:
I recently had a problem where NFS:WM would crash on startup, and apparently the only thing to do (according to firemonkey) is just clear data and lose all progress. Having almost completed everything, I wasn't having any of that.
I'm not rooted but do have my bootloader unlocked so that I can fastboot TWRP to do backups, which also happens to give me root access when booted into TWRP. I made a backup and looked through it to try and and a problem. No luck there, but I did figure out that the game progress is stored in a single file. No config data or anything as far as I can tell, just the progress. So I cleared the data, ran the game through the first level, then copied that old progress file over the new one and I had it back up and going with all progress intact. It's basically a clean install, and since all of the config data is still part of the new install, it didn't cause me any problems.
I did download all of the game data again ultimately, however. But an earlier test of saving "/sdcard/Android/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/" and putting it back to avoid the download did work, although it could have been a fluke.
Anyway the file in question is "/data/data/com.ea.games.nfs13_na/files/var/nfstr_save.sb". Just save that one file, install the game from scratch otherwise, run it the first time, then copy that saved progress file over the new one. Assuming that there isn't anything else going on that I didn't find, that should solve your problem.
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Awesome. I'll give this a try. :good:

I use MyBackup Pro. I backed up the data and apk from my Nexus and transfered it to me Evo LTE. I restored the apk and data. It does prompt me to reinstall the other game data, which is fine with me. I found if I tried to copy it from one device to the other it would cause the game to crash randomly
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most likely because of the device id (which is the id you see when you type "adb devices" in a command prompt). it's supposed to stay constant in the lifetime of the device (except for factory reset)

[Q] There must be an answer to show apps [Solved]

Edit: Please note this post does have a resolution at the end.
Did you ever have a tech quandry you just had to solve?
Last year I hid some apps in/from the app drawer of a stock, S-On, not unlocked or rooted, T-mobile HTC Wildfire S with the stock Sense 2.1 UI. I want to unhide them and can't find the info on how I hid them anywhere. They do show up in a different launcher, like LauncherPro. They're not disabled, I already checked that in adb in the Android SDK.
I can run them, either from Titanium Backup or Launcher Pro, and then from my recent apps drawer in Sense 2.1 after I've run them in one of the mentioned ways; but, I really want to get those icons back and do a CWM backup of my stock ROM before I start trying custom ROMs on this phone. I like Sense and want to be able to go back if I choose.
I'm rooted now thanks to the many articles and guides here. Unlocked at HTC Dev, and ran root.zip. Installed SuperUser, ROM_Manager, TitaniumBackup
I have spent a LOT of time recently and all day every day since Monday researching here and at Android Forums, the 2 defacto places for phone knowledge. I've also used Google, searched on Life Hacker, looked in all my browsers favs for articles, searched my computers for notes (I usually make a file in Notepad for things I do that I might not remember), checked magazines I read, and so on.
I don't know if I did something in adb, changed a manifest (too many to do that), or installed a launcher that left those apps hidden when it was deleted. I hid about a half dozen apps/icons.
There has to be an answer.

Sure would appreciate some help. I'm exhausted trying to find the tip/trick I followed to do this so I can undo it. If it will help. When I try to enable the Stocks package in adb I get a return of:
C:\>adb shell pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
[1] Killed pm enable com.ht...
Does that mean I killed the app, "Way back when"; or, maybe just the process is killed without invoking root (remember the phone wasn't rooted when I first did this)? If I do it this way invoking root, I get a diff result, but neither way shows the app (unlike freezing/unfreezing in the many apps like TB, etc.):
C:\>adb shell
$ su
su
# pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
Package com.htc.android.Stock new state: enabled
BTW if I disable it disappears from LauncherPro and then enable and it reappears in Launcher Pro; but, nothing gets it to reappear in Sense except in the recent apps drawer after I open it in Launcher Pro or TB as mentioned in the above post.
The control has to be in a file somewhere. Do phones have an, "xxx.ini" file for apps like computers sometimes do?

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MiCeltic said:
Sure would appreciate some help. I'm exhausted trying to find the tip/trick I followed to do this so I can undo it. If it will help. When I try to enable the Stocks package in adb I get a return of:
C:\>adb shell pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
[1] Killed pm enable com.ht...
Does that mean I killed the app, "Way back when"; or, maybe just the process is killed without invoking root (remember the phone wasn't rooted when I first did this)? If I do it this way invoking root, I get a diff result, but neither way shows the app (unlike freezing/unfreezing in the many apps like TB, etc.):
C:\>adb shell
$ su
su
# pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
pm enable com.htc.android.Stock
Package com.htc.android.Stock new state: enabled
BTW if I disable it disappears from LauncherPro and then enable and it reappears in Launcher Pro; but, nothing gets it to reappear in Sense except in the recent apps drawer after I open it in Launcher Pro or TB as mentioned in the above post.
The control has to be in a file somewhere. Do phones have an, "xxx.ini" file for apps like computers sometimes do?
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What apps are you trying to show again? Since you have root you can try to use a root uninstaller app to make a back up of the app first, then reboot the phone. Then use the app to reinstall and then reboot to recovery and use fix permissions.
Feel free to make a nandroid back up first just incase you lose any data
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Thanks for the response heavy_metal_man. It's hard to tell everything. I missed what and the kind of apps, thanks. I am talking about system apps like, "Stocks" and, "Voice Recorder", and there's others. I did Fix permissions in ROM Manager before and it didn't fix anything. I have tried a lot of stuff and am getting flustered and tired, but not giving up! For the sake of knowledge, I really want to find out the what and how...not just use a workaround. I tried your suggestions with, "Voice Recorder"...backed up in Titanium Backup...uninstalled with Root Uninstaller...checked everything to be sure it was gone and then restarted...attempted a restore of, "App only" with TB and it just churned long enough to know it was hung (I did get a notice there was an update, but don't think that would interfere); so, I powered off and restarted. No changes; so, tried another restore of, "App + Data"...same thing it just churned...another restart and everthing was back to the way it was. VoiceRec in Settings>>Apps>>ManageApps, but not in the Sense app drawer. I then couldn't get ROM Manager to do anything when I selected Fix Permissions...couldn't get into TB, did the update, still couldn't get ROM Mgr or TB to do anything, and so did a battery pull restart...I did go into CWM, but just rebooted. Then everything was normal, meaning as before, and fixed Permissions in ROM Manger. I don't think it matters whether I fix in CWM, ROM Mgr, or ADB...they're all reading the same .xml files to set permissions. Anyway, No VoiceRec in the Apps Drawer.
So I'm back to square one. Any more ideas I'll be glad to try them. I don't think I used APKToolkit to do anything or that it would be in the apk's. Tomorrow I think I'll try to find something in the package xml's...just need to find the right package that would address them all. I've looked at a few, but just for change dates on all the files in the packages...all were 2009, and I'd have done this in 2012.
Thanks again...tomorrow is another day.

Re: [Q] There must be an answer to show apps
Hmm. For the sake of argument make a full backup and then factory reset from recovery, then reboot and go through the first setup nonsense. Are the apps back?
Also the sense launcher is called Rosie should that ring any bells.
If a factory reset doesn't fix this then you may have to flash a stock rom to sort it like
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h_m_m,
I did a factory data reset myself before, which I believe is really just an erase of data, and not a real reset (like formatting and reinstalling an OS in a computer). Then of course there was the factory reset that occurred after unlocking and rooting. Neither of those changed anything. I have flashed a CWM recovery after rooting.
Are you saying, boot into recovery:
1. Factory Reset as
a. DO NOT wipe the factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Throw in a wipe of the batt stats too
then
d. Do the factory data reset and let all the caches rebuild as they will
or
2. Factory Reset as
a. Wipe factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Wipe batt stats
then
d. Backup and Restore>>Advance Restore>>Original ROM>>Restore system (not the data, cache or any of the other stuff there)
If number 2., then I wonder if that would put me back to OOB (Out Of Box), and if so, would I lose root, have T-mobile...yeah, I like T-mobile for some things - - blame it on Catherine Zeta-Jones time as spokesperson. As long as I have CWM recovery and have backed up from there I can't do anything that would ever leave the phone bricked; and, I can always unlock and root again if needed.
Either 1. or 2. I want to hold those in reserve because I do want to find out how I hide them. They act exactly as though they're disabled, i.e., The icon is gone, but I still get updates (Voice Recorder was updated just a week ago); however, they're only disabled in SenseUI. LauncherPro shows them all, and of course functionally...and remember once I run one of these apps, like Stocks, in LauncherPro, I can then switch to Sense and run it from my recent apps (long press on Home) or the pull down notifications area list of recents.
BTW, You were too gentlemanly to ask, but I clicked a couple, "Thanks" for you today. I was tired and forgot yesterday. We may not solve anything, but I'm enjoying/appreciate the conversaton/thread.
Even though I'm holding on those ideas above, let me know which/what you think of them please, in case I ultimately go that way. I did clear the data in Apps>>Manage for both of the HTC Senses and Rosie. I'll have to look at what's in Rosie though, maybe that holds the key!
As an aside, the first personal web page I made had, "Iron Man" as the background music!

Re: [Q] There must be an answer to show apps
MiCeltic said:
h_m_m,
I did a factory data reset myself before, which I believe is really just an erase of data, and not a real reset (like formatting and reinstalling an OS in a computer). Then of course there was the factory reset that occurred after unlocking and rooting. Neither of those changed anything. I have flashed a CWM recovery after rooting.
Are you saying, boot into recovery:
1. Factory Reset as
a. DO NOT wipe the factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Throw in a wipe of the batt stats too
then
d. Do the factory data reset and let all the caches rebuild as they will
or
2. Factory Reset as
a. Wipe factory data reset
b. Wipe cache and dalvik cache
c. Wipe batt stats
then
d. Backup and Restore>>Advance Restore>>Original ROM>>Restore system (not the data, cache or any of the other stuff there)
If number 2., then I wonder if that would put me back to OOB (Out Of Box), and if so, would I lose root, have T-mobile...yeah, I like T-mobile for some things - - blame it on Catherine Zeta-Jones time as spokesperson. As long as I have CWM recovery and have backed up from there I can't do anything that would ever leave the phone bricked; and, I can always unlock and root again if needed.
Either 1. or 2. I want to hold those in reserve because I do want to find out how I hide them. They act exactly as though they're disabled, i.e., The icon is gone, but I still get updates (Voice Recorder was updated just a week ago); however, they're only disabled in SenseUI. LauncherPro shows them all, and of course functionally...and remember once I run one of these apps, like Stocks, in LauncherPro, I can then switch to Sense and run it from my recent apps (long press on Home) or the pull down notifications area list of recents.
BTW, You were too gentlemanly to ask, but I clicked a couple, "Thanks" for you today. I was tired and forgot yesterday. We may not solve anything, but I'm enjoying/appreciate the conversaton/thread.
Even though I'm holding on those ideas above, let me know which/what you think of them please, in case I ultimately go that way. I did clear the data in Apps>>Manage for both of the HTC Senses and Rosie. I'll have to look at what's in Rosie though, maybe that holds the key!
As an aside, the first personal web page I made had, "Iron Man" as the background music!
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Firstly thanks for the thanks , I love helping people out! Its how I get my kicks
Secondly as long as you have made a nandroid back up in your recovery you are pretty much covered for everything. If I was you I would go for option 2 and wipe the lot. Then let the phone fully boot up and go through the set up. If a full wipe fixes the issue then we at least have a solid starting point to find out what's happened after that little test then restore your back up regardless.
Notes: the factory reset will not remove root or any extra system apps you have installed.
As long as you have the back up done you can always go back to it, allowing you don't destroy the bootloader. But that is highly unlikely as you are still s-on
Also an option to help this might be to use the app titanium back up to back up all your apps data separately, then back up your contacts, SMS ect, and then do a fresh install of a stock rom. Once that is done you could restore your back ups manually and go from there
I must say though this is a very odd case indeed, I'm pretty stumped as to how you have managed this without root
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7

Re: [Q] There must be an answer to show apps
I have been looking into this more and it turns out sense hides some system app icons by default. Such as the camcorder, as we already have the camera app. Can you post a list of the apps to cross reference them?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

Sorry h_m_m, I didn't get an email notice of your reply on the 24th. Stocks and Voice Recorder are 2 definite ones. They don't show in Sense, but do in LP, and are discussed in the T-mobile HTC Wildfire S manual. I did notice in LP that there are some that I'm not sure I ever saw.
Re: your 2nd last post, I am 99% sure I did something with SDK, either in recovery or in the emulator...possibly debugging, that could be done without root!? I installed the SDK just short of one month after getting the phone. I really believe this was an article/tutorial by a programmer/developer that just walked me through. I felt OK using my computer skills in things like Visual Basic, SQL, and so on, but I was nervous because it was my 1st smartphone.
Anyway, in the last few days I've decompiled Rosie.apk to see if there was anything I could recognize or reason in the Manifest or Resources, but no clue there. I decompiled the Stock.apk from my WFS and one from a Hero to compare, again specific to the rosie/htc launcher, but nothing. I decompiled the htcSoundRecorder, no joy, Calculator (shows, but for comparison) - no joy. I have not done anything with the .odex files...maybe the tutorial I followed set something in those smali/java files, BUT, I don't see evidence on the computer I use for all this, of Eclipse or the JDK...only Java FX 2.1, but it's install coincides with the install of Google's Chrome browser, which uses it.
I believe this info is so obscure (except to ROM developers, I'm sure) because a lot of phones after Gingerbread got the menu option in the app drawer to hide icon shortcuts. So I'm going to keep this post in my favs and hope I get any email notifications if someone posts; and, search for articles now and then, but get back to living and leave this obsession behind...but not forgotten.
Hopefully I'll find something, come back and post it and even get a thanks for an interesting article and providing some obscure information!.
Oh, and I'll try option 2. from a couple posts ago before I take off flashing a bunch of ROMs, or after I delete stuff from this one and make a 2nd backup...like we rooted for! Clicked a couple more thanks too.

Re: [Q] There must be an answer to show apps
MiCeltic said:
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I believe this info is so obscure (except to ROM developers, I'm sure) because a lot of phones after Gingerbread got the menu option in the app drawer to hide icon shortcuts. So I'm going to keep this post in my favs and hope I get any email notifications if someone posts; and, search for articles now and then, but get back to living and leave this obsession behind...but not forgotten.
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That's probably the best plan at this point sorry I couldn't help out more, but you have totally baffled me with this one just goes to show that the sdk can do far more than it lets on still, I hope one day you find that illusive tutorial and post it here
PS, gave you some thanks
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

Hey h_m_m,
Thanks for the thanks!
I had time Sunday and I found some info and fixed them to show! I used search terms based on your statement that HTC hides some apps by default and found an article that referenced the, "/system/customize/mns/default.xml" file that contained a function, "applications_hide". So without getting into what I might do or might have done previously in the SDK, and since I was rooted, I just copied the file to my sdcard, attached to a computer and opened it in Notepad (needed to use the computer because it's well over 2000 lines in the file with no speed scrolling in es file explorer), changed (as one example):
<set name="plenty" max="7">
<item name="package">com.htc.android.Stock</item>
<item name="class">com.htc.android.Stock.StockWidget</item>
</set>
to
<!--<set name="plenty" max="7">
<item name="package">com.htc.android.Stock</item>
<item name="class">com.htc.android.Stock.StockWidget</item>
</set>-->
saved the file, mounted the file system using ES File Explorer and copied the file, then pasted it back in the, "/system/customize/mns/" folder. I commented the lines out so they wouldn't run and would still be there for history (instead of deleting the lines), and commented the code with a statement, <!--uncomment to hide the app's shortcut icon in the app drawer--> so that if I ever looked back I'd have info on it. I also did the same with the Sound Recorder, Voice Dialer, and WiFi (all at the same time as Stocks).
I did a factory reset and the shortcuts showed! This file, after all, sets the defaults. Well it didn't end there. I lost root. The su binary was still in it's folder(s) but Titanium Backup, ES File Explorer, and Super User wouldn't run...or rather wouldn't stop searching for root. It was like the su binary wasn't registered in the system; long story short, I re-flashed root.zip and all was right once more. The interesting thing is I had opened and abandoned this, "default.xml" file a couple times because it was so long and tedious to scroll through on the phone!
You can see a sample, "default.xml" for Gingerbread on code.google at http://code.google.com/p/warm-ginge...e/trunk/system/customize/MNS/default.xml?r=34 just stop the script if you get a pop-up. It's about 1/4 of the way down, or just do a find for, "applications_hide". There's only 2 things hid in that example file. ***Note that default is misspelled as defeault, but it seems to parse...it's in my phone's file that way too. I'd be cautious about opening that site on a phone browser, it seems to want to run on my computer when I open it.
What's the advantage of this? It could show apps or enable features that someone might like. This file sets all the defaults present OOB or after a factory reset, i.e., bookmarks, what I call sample app shortcuts and widgets on the screens, wallpaper, the 4 stocks in the stocks app, etc., etc., so those could be modified if desired as well. Proceed at own risk!
Clicking more thanks h_m_m! I don't know how long this would have taken without your feedback and input.

Re: [Q] There must be an answer to show apps
That is great news man I'm glad you got sorted and posted your findings here that's really interesting, and good to know
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7