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Who prefers to stay on STOCK?????

i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.

This thread belongs in the Q&A forum, not the General forum. (Also, your '?' key seems to be stuck.)

Gary02468 your number lock seems to be stuck. Qt pie.

I am kinda in that boat
I just got my note2 and have since flashed recovery / and clean rom however I tend to like sticking stockish till I know the water temp so to speak. I tried to just do the root with out changing the counter but OTA's killed my root. Hence the twrp and clean rom...
I just cant win... heh.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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Nice to see an iphone user do the swap
I gotta say its awesome to see an iPhone user move on over.

I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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And it seems that there's no"." key on your iphone.

rayoubi said:
i'm curious if anyone here on XDA prefers being on stock. How come? You don't like roms? root? Just curious on what people that love to stay on stock.
Thanks.
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On many phones I have stayed on stock for stability and feature set. In many cases when you go to another rom (especially AOSP) you lose TW features, S-Pen, etc... and in many cases I find not everything is 100%
That said the Note II development is fantastic. Many of the TW based roms give you everything you get with stock, but with more. AOSP you lose the TW feature set but it is amazingly stable and fast with a whole lot of other features.
With my S3 I could not find a single rom that I did not have problems on, but with the Note II I have a harder time deciding WHICH rom to use :good:

chris82o said:
I love being on stock dont get me wrong I love the clean roms and root access but since I am coming as a long term iPhone user stock feels amazing and very open to be able to do so much personalizing to the device without having to get into roms is great but I do hate the boatware lol
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So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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C.Flat said:
I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy
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I agree with this guy. Even with my acer liquid mt when I rooted it and used the leaked gingerbread rom for it, the camera (which i use a lot got messed up and would over expose the pictures to white messes of garbage) and I noticed that after switching back to the normal stock rom with root, the camera would screw the video with red green and blue lines...gross I know...
And plus, just like my old ipod touch 2g (which doesnt work cuz the battery is dead. big surprise CRapple) it looked as normal as it should, but behind the curtain, the device was screaming at me to stop, every little tweak, hack, or anything I could do to the device. (Except install android on it because the project cut off 2Gs)
So what im saying is, its more fun to screw with the stock app.
Dont like the boatware?
Download a root app uninstaller.
Dont like anything about most devices?
Someone else doesnt like it either, and theyre smarter than you and figured out how to change that.
Root all stock roms.
Maybe one day, they will have an option to come rooted and unlocked.
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For me 1st time I'm on stock. I like it and don't see a need for change I did root it. On my SGS the minute I go it I put a rom on it.
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I did until I discovered PA battery life. Been 5 hours of fair use, mostly as a media player, connected to data. Battery is still at 84%
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I hate stock as soon as another ROM handles all I want. I have a toddler. I need camera function. As soon as cm10 fixed it a week ago. I will never go back to stock again. Only 2 features I miss are page buddy and mhl. Page buddy probably can be modded in though
I love the new features they keep adding instead of stock. And I love a 150meg download instead of 700meg
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The lack of mhl in cm or aokp keep me on stock based roms
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The same day I purchased my Note 2, I had it rooted and has TWRP installed on it. Day 2 I was flashing roms. I guess I just really like to tinker with my phones, because where was nothing wrong with stock!

C.FLAT, "I'm staying in stock to keep the slow motion video feature. And because CM 10's camera is really glitchy"
If you are that concerned with the camera features working why not flash a ROM like Scrosler's CLEAN ROM ATT SE. It made from ATT base. Completely stock without the bloatware. Everything works perfectly and you are not at the mercy of your carrier to recieve OTA's instead your at Scroslers lol. But seriously, I would much rather get/wait for updates from a DEV here on XDA (Where I can talk directly to the DEV and or people in the thread also using the ROM) instead of waiting for carriers to take forever and you can't directly talk to the team of people who made the Official ROM . So for me if you want stock look and feel with no bloatware and is more customizable than actual stock I would go with a ROM based or made from complete stock base. Just my 2 cents

Slow motion on jedi
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stock miscom
skifreek said:
So then flash the stock international rom from miscom like a lot of us have.... Stock experience with No bs att bloat
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besides the excellent support miscom. Thanks miscom

I'm on stock cause I got no reason to be otherwise. Everything works as intended, and the so-called "bloatware" is in reality a complete non-issue.

International I9505 Rom working on T-Mobile S4 M919!!

So I went ahead and flashed the i9505 Wanam Rom from here and it works great on my M919. The rom doesn't have a modem so I figured it would be safe and sure enough it was. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283194
No wipe is required either. I simply flashed it using CWM and I now have a GT-I9505 model with all T-Mo bloatware gone! I really like the blue dialer on this too!
You will get reboot notifications, to remove that simply download "Bloatware Freezer" from Playstore and freeze the app called SEAndroid. That should take care of it.

Oh man... Fully functional though? I'd imagine Wifi Calling would be a goner, not that I ever use it anyway...
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pakraider said:
Oh man... Fully functional though? I'd imagine Wifi Calling would be a goner, not that I ever use it anyway...
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No Tmo features...obviously.
Yes, a lot of people don't realize their options for goodies go beyond just the specific m919 forum. Check out the general international S4 I9505 forums. It's were I spend most my time.
Development is lagging for the m919 variant. There are only a few ROMs & choices, with slow updates.... and plenty of time has passed since release, so I'm not sure how much better it will get. It's the one negative part about Sammy devices....fragmentation of the same model. It would be nice to see a majority of elite Devs working on the same model....like the One.
MANY of the mods/themes/ROMs etc...work great with our device. The radio is the only difference between various 9505 models.
Cheers!

Awesome. But who puts a modem in custom roms now days? Lol Now that I can see that this phone is actually the same hardware as the international we can have roms from there too..... In this case if a leak of a newer android update comes out we can have it port over. And not wait for tmobile,,,
If that the case than AT&T, VERIZON, AND SPRINT can be ported all like on the s3 but the fun part is the even international too

I hope this all works so far I'm very happy with wicked but more options are never a bad thing
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Wow I had no idea I could use i9505 roms. I thought i may be able to but wasn't sure. Awesome.

Working great so far. Only problem I noticed so far was constant notification from SEAndroid. I simply freezed it using bloatware freezer from Playstore.

Hoggles said:
No Tmo features...obviously.
Yes, a lot of people don't realize their options for goodies go beyond just the specific m919 forum. Check out the general international S4 I9505 forums. It's were I spend most my time.
Development is lagging for the m919 variant. There are only a few ROMs & choices, with slow updates.... and plenty of time has passed since release, so I'm not sure how much better it will get. It's the one negative part about Sammy devices....fragmentation of the same model. It would be nice to see a majority of elite Devs working on the same model....like the One.
MANY of the mods/themes/ROMs etc...work great with our device. The radio is the only difference between various 9505 models.
Cheers!
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lol give us more time, mate. would you rather we release untested ROMs? i'm sure there are a number of us floating around here that have a ROM we can put out right this second but it is good practice to test first and ensure there are no issues. this can take a little bit. i myself am in testing phase. maybe the phone has been out a while, but i personally have only had one for 2 and a half weeks. a lot of stuff in the other sections will be ported over. i have to get a good working and stable base out first before i start adding in more tweaks that will seemingly overwhelm most typical users.
also, please be weary of flashing an entire ROM from i9505 section. if there are CSC bits contained within it, you won't have a signal like you're supposed to.

Totally agree with the previous poster. These things take time to make.
With that said this is good news. Hopefully, we can get a dev to port these over with TMO features & Csc files.
I know AT&T GN2 had an awesome dev that ported Int GN2 over with options for TMO, AT&T & Canadian carriers.
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so we could flash any rom from international version?

chiensibut said:
so we could flash any rom from international version?
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not necessarily. It's probably a good idea to ask the OP

Not any roms from the i9500.. only the i9505 as we share the quad-core processor
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Anyone know if the international version supports 2 way call recording out of the box?
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i flashed one of their rom but got a app permission that tell you to reboot the phone, how do i fix that

chiensibut said:
i flashed one of their rom but got a app permission that tell you to reboot the phone, how do i fix that
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Go into system/app and delte everything that begins with knox
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ktetreault14 said:
Go into system/app and delte everything that begins with knox
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No don't do this. Simply download "Bloatware Freezer" from Playstore and freeze the app called SEAndroid. That should take care of it.

chiensibut said:
so we could flash any rom from international version?
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Any ROM made for I9505, you can use. Make sure the ROM doesn't have a modem baked into it (ROMs usually don't, but you must make sure). You will then have to download and app called "Bloatware Freezer" from Play Store and freeze the system app called 'SEAndroid'

thank for the tip mate
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Works great, even support video call like you see in the Korean dramas. Too bad no US provider supports that

Any way if we manually added or flashed the T-Mobile bloat we could use visual voicemail at least?
Also do you feel that the battery life and overall performance is better in these ROMs?
Can we still use 4g/ 4g lte with these ROMs automatically or do we need to mess with the APN to a certain extent?
Thank you. I am considering flashing because I'm loving those ROMs and themes in the international forums especially that dark android theme that doesn't work well with our phones
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What the google s4 means for us?

Will the release of this device mean that the the "samsung" s4 will be able to get official google updates without having to wait on samsung (provided that you root the phone and install the google factory image)?:highfive:

It'll be a good thing, but the tmobile s4 is hands down the "it phone" in America-town already. Just wait til a few more devs get the phone
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goft20 said:
Will the release of this device mean that the the "samsung" s4 will be able to get official google updates without having to wait on samsung (provided that you root the phone and install the google factory image)?:highfive:
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No after reading a few posts the updates will be sent to Samsung and they will have a time frame to release it for the google version.
Wayne Tech Nexus

Since they will have identical hardware, the G.E. rom can be dumped and turned into a custom rom with ease I assume. S4 will have 100% stable TouchWiz and AOSP (so to speak). I'm speculating as I haven't looked too much into this though.

Would WiFi Calling work if this were to happen?

Idkwts said:
Would WiFi Calling work if this were to happen?
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No Wi-fi calling wont work on a AOSP based rom.

zelendel said:
No Wi-fi calling wont work on a AOSP based rom.
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Oh okay, thanks. Guess I can't flash any AOSP roms until I move.

zelendel said:
No Wi-fi calling wont work on a AOSP based rom.
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so what, I take it they interlace wifi calling in with Sense, TouchWiz, LG UI, Motoblur, etc?

adventure_of_link said:
so what, I take it they interlace wifi calling in with Sense, TouchWiz, LG UI, Motoblur, etc?
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It is a closed sourced feature. So it won't make it into any open source OS version.
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Android_Monsters said:
It'll be a good thing, but the tmobile s4 is hands down the "it phone" in America-town already. Just wait til a few more devs get the phone
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Why??
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I don't see what the big deal is. You xan get aosp roms on our phones right now. I never used touchwiz before owning this phone, but I do have to admit I like it. I flashed the few aosp roms floating around and immediately missed the features tw offers (remote control, air gestures, etc).
Ive come from all AOSP devices and I have to say it doesn't compliment the hardware on this phone imo.
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I see pros and cons with the google s4. While it will be great that the device will be up to date with the latest android, the vanilla android won't be able to make use of all the hardware features the device has to offer. But a big con with google s4 is that it only comes with 16GB internal storage.

nbeebe24 said:
I don't see what the big deal is. You xan get aosp roms on our phones right now. I never used touchwiz before owning this phone, but I do have to admit I like it. I flashed the few aosp roms floating around and immediately missed the features tw offers (remote control, air gestures, etc).
Ive come from all AOSP devices and I have to say it doesn't compliment the hardware on this phone imo.
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The obvious difference will be that everything will function properly.
There is ALWAYS something broke or not quite right with AOSP/CM Ports. Bluetooth, tethering, camera... you name it.
So...its obviously a little different than... "why not just flash CM or AOSP now!?"... Official Google support for the S4 is a HUGE deal.

This means nothing for me. I'm not about to pay for a device that I can do the same thing with my already owned sgs4. Flash an aosp rom. But maybe it's more than that I would assume
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Why??
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Hoggles said:
The obvious difference will be that everything will function properly.
There is ALWAYS something broke or not quite right with AOSP/CM Ports. Bluetooth, tethering, camera... you name it.
So...its obviously a little different than... "why not just flash CM or AOSP now!?"... Official Google support for the S4 is a HUGE deal.
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Whose to say this device something won't be broken. And it's quite obvious stuff will be broken but that's okay with me for any rom. I know I can expect a fix a lot faster.

For me, it's an overpriced and enlarged Nexus 4.
It lacks all the Samsung features (I know some people don't like that). It only has the vanilla Android on it which will have the same features as the Nexus 4.
Why do I need to pay $649.99 for the phone which has the same features as the one that only cost $299.99 (Nexus 4)? I know S4 is bigger, faster, blah blah blah but it's $350 different.
On the other hand, with AOSP rom available, for sure we will have better 3rd party ROM such as CM, AOKP, etc. I am actually happy to see that.
P.S. I am just sharing my opinion. No offense. =]

macaumen said:
For me, it's an overpriced and enlarged Nexus 4.
It lacks all the Samsung features (I know some people don't like that). It only has the vanilla Android on it which will have the same features as the Nexus 4.
Why do I need to pay $649.99 for the phone which has the same features as the one that only cost $299.99 (Nexus 4)? I know S4 is bigger, faster, blah blah blah but it's $350 different.
On the other hand, with AOSP rom available, for sure we will have better 3rd party ROM such as CM, AOKP, etc. I am actually happy to see that.
P.S. I am just sharing my opinion. No offense. =]
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Im thinking its because they know that devs will make it possible to odin stock touchwiz to the nexus s4 and activate the sensors which is one of the big highlights of the phone.
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krew760 said:
Im thinking its because they know that devs will make it possible to odin stock touchwiz to the nexus s4 and activate the sensors which is one of the big highlights of the phone.
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So you're saying people are going to buy the nexus S4 just to flash to stock tw? Makes sense
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No more like samsung is trying to protect their investment. Imagine if they sold at the price of a nexus and you could odin stock rom. People would be saving 300+ bucks while others paid 640 and up. Its just a matter of being fair.
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krew760 said:
No more like samsung is trying to protect their investment. Imagine if they sold at the price of a nexus and you could odin stock rom. People would be saving 300+ bucks while others paid 640 and up. Its just a matter of being fair.
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Oh ok, now that makes sense.
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Hoggles said:
The obvious difference will be that everything will function properly.
There is ALWAYS something broke or not quite right with AOSP/CM Ports. Bluetooth, tethering, camera... you name it.
So...its obviously a little different than... "why not just flash CM or AOSP now!?"... Official Google support for the S4 is a HUGE deal.
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The aosp roms I've used have all been very stable for the most part. Just because Google will be releasing it does not mean it'll be completely bug free. I just don't find it exciting if it's not utilizing all the new tech Samsung has added.
No one really knows what's in store, but losing the ir blaster and the other sensors' functionality seems like a step backwards imo. I've owned all the nexus devices and have flashed aosp ROMs on every phone I have owned. It just doesn't excite me on this S4.
I actually like touch wiz this time around (minus the cartoon ui and bloatware).
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What's happened to Samsung and XDA?

I bought my SIII about 6-8 months ago, coming from the SII.. the Devs and roms for the SII were good and plentiful .. I get the SIII and it seems like there isn't much support for it! I mean my SII shortly after giving it to my wife was updated to 4.1.2 WTF?? I surely thought by now my SIII would be 4.2.2! (Maybe even 4.3!!).. am I wrong for feeling this way? Is it Samsung I should cuss the F out? LoL! Now I have the "itch" to say screw it and start flashing again but nothing seems too promising as a DD
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HoustonsBirdman said:
I bought my SIII about 6-8 months ago, coming from the SII.. the Devs and roms for the SII were good and plentiful .. I get the SIII and it seems like there isn't much support for it! I mean my SII shortly after giving it to my wife was updated to 4.1.2 WTF?? I surely thought by now my SIII would be 4.2.2! (Maybe even 4.3!!).. am I wrong for feeling this way? Is it Samsung I should cuss the F out? LoL! Now I have the "itch" to say screw it and start flashing again but nothing seems too promising as a DD
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4.1.2 ain't bad man and expect to see 4.2.2 later this year or early next. Plenty of DD's out there

HoustonsBirdman said:
I bought my SIII about 6-8 months ago, coming from the SII.. the Devs and roms for the SII were good and plentiful .. I get the SIII and it seems like there isn't much support for it! I mean my SII shortly after giving it to my wife was updated to 4.1.2 WTF?? I surely thought by now my SIII would be 4.2.2! (Maybe even 4.3!!).. am I wrong for feeling this way? Is it Samsung I should cuss the F out? LoL! Now I have the "itch" to say screw it and start flashing again but nothing seems too promising as a DD
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Samsung feels 4.1.2 is pretty much bug free. Now they are struggling to keep up with the booms in technology and software as well. New versions of Android are coming out quicker than Sammy's new phones. Why put out a 4.2.2 when 4.3 is out? So now they concentrate on getting out new phones with 4.3 on it and then they start working on updates to the dozens of existing models. 4.3 was announced as coming to the S3 BUT that will be the international first then US months later depending on carriers.
What is in 4.2.2 that you MUST have? There are 4.3 AOSP ROMs all over if you want that.

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Samsung feels 4.1.2 is pretty much bug free. Now they are struggling to keep up with the booms in technology and software as well. New versions of Android are coming out quicker than Sammy's new phones. Why put out a 4.2.2 when 4.3 is out? So now they concentrate on getting out new phones with 4.3 on it and then they start working on updates to the dozens of existing models. 4.3 was announced as coming to the S3 BUT that will be the international first then US months later depending on carriers.
What is in 4.2.2 that you MUST have? There are 4.3 AOSP ROMs all over if you want that.
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I too feel like the T-Mobile variant isn't getting enough love.... The international version gets it all!

Anthonol said:
I too feel like the T-Mobile variant isn't getting enough love.... The international version gets it all!
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There are various ways to flash other carriers roms to T-Mobile, the AT&T variant is almost (and in some cases) a direct port...

It doesn't seem like the newer versions of Android add too much more function than 4.1.2. As far as looks, their are plenty of ways to theme your phone to make it look like whatever you like
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There are some awesome 4.3 roms there, what else do you need?
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There are some awesome 4.3 roms there, what else do you need?
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Stability would be nice.

Aerowinder said:
Stability would be nice.
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Going to have to agree with this. 4.3 even on the best ROMs are alphas at best.
The only semi stable AOSP/CM ROMs are 4.2.2 and under.
And all AOSP/CM ROMs since have a weird bug with Instagram or third party apps and their front facing camera.
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Aerowinder said:
Stability would be nice.
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This^^

Since posting this thread I've used CM10.2 Nightlies and also ParanoidAndroid 3.99 RC2.. I can honestly say (and this is of course my own opinion and result) that CM has been a better experience. I use my phone a bunch for little things, internet, text messaging, FBing, Pictures, XDA, games, etc and haven't had any problems with CM.. Only reason I switched back from PA to CM was honestly only that Candy Crush wasn't compatible with PA (and I barely play CC anymore lol).. I've just lost my ability to use Triangle Away for some reason.. It was working on the CM10.2 09/07 nightly, flashed PA and didn't work. Then flashed back to CM but the 09/26 and still not working, flashed the new kernel and TA still gets stuck at Detecting Packages.. Wish someone would tell me why.. I've posted in like 5 different places and nobody responds
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HoustonsBirdman said:
Since posting this thread I've used CM10.2 Nightlies and also ParanoidAndroid 3.99 RC2.. I can honestly say (and this is of course my own opinion and result) that CM has been a better experience. I use my phone a bunch for little things, internet, text messaging, FBing, Pictures, XDA, games, etc and haven't had any problems with CM.. Only reason I switched back from PA to CM was honestly only that Candy Crush wasn't compatible with PA (and I barely play CC anymore lol).. I've just lost my ability to use Triangle Away for some reason.. It was working on the CM10.2 09/07 nightly, flashed PA and didn't work. Then flashed back to CM but the 09/26 and still not working, flashed the new kernel and TA still gets stuck at Detecting Packages.. Wish someone would tell me why.. I've posted in like 5 different places and nobody responds
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My biggest issues are surrounding bluetooth - I experience issues related to pops when switching songs - almost sounds like a non-flushed buffer, and sometimes major lag... almost like the app has crashed, but it doesn't... it comes back. This was on SlimBean 4.3...
I haen't tried CM or the others primarily because I reverted to 4.1.2 for stability.
My best bet on Triangle Away is to run it just before you boot into download mode... (that SHOULD work...) Samsung introduced stuff back when 4.0 came out where the triangle would get re-set whenever you'd boot into an altered recovery...

Note II - the 4.4.2 update - discussion thread

http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/18/samsung-begins-rollout-android-44-kitkat-14-devices/
Aww man I cant wait im not sure if this thread has already been made but thank god they have not forgot about us. :victory:

Woohoo...Samsung finally gets around to publishing their own bloated take on something we've had for months.

If tw still look the same with nothing extra that's useful I won't Bother. I use to like Samsung but once you get to the top there's only one way to go. Hope I'm wrong and they give us something nice, if not I'll stay on stock Android.
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Already have it with CM11.. minus all the bloatware too.

Xtraordinair said:
Already have it with CM11.. minus all the bloatware too.
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can you give me the link for that thread?
TIA

na_tra said:
can you give me the link for that thread?
TIA
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SPRINT GALAXY NOTE II ONLY:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524130

The good thing about this will be the new customization with all the KK ROM's we do have available once the developers get the KK source from the official release right?, most of them are pretty stock without as many options as my PACman 4.3.1 JB ROM has right now.

Wonder if I'll still get the ota if Knox is removed from otherwise stock 4.3 setup.
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The official kit kat tw Rom actually isn't coming with much bloat at all.. and Samsung has revamped tw to be more streamlined. I'm actually looking forward to it since I use the spen alot and upgrading to a Note 3 is really a waste of money.. I can wait for the Note 4
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johndillinger1932 said:
The official kit kat tw Rom actually isn't coming with much bloat at all.. and Samsung has revamped tw to be more streamlined. I'm actually looking forward to it since I use the spen alot and upgrading to a Note 3 is really a waste of money.. I can wait for the Note 4
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Can you uninstall all the utterly useless Samsung apps? Does the OS image weigh any less than 1GB? If not they may have made it run better, but they didn't debloat it.
And I *highly* doubt that Samsung got rid of their own useless apps they spent money developing.
Hopefully Google comes out with a phablet form device. Then I'm done with Samsung. Might go to an LG next. Screw Knox and Samsung.

Skripka said:
Can you uninstall all the utterly useless Samsung apps? Does the OS image weigh any less than 1GB? If not they may have made it run better, but they didn't debloat it.
And I *highly* doubt that Samsung got rid of their own useless apps they spent money developing.
Hopefully Google comes out with a phablet form device. Then I'm done with Samsung. Might go to an LG next. Screw Knox and Samsung.
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I have had only a few android devices (kyocera zio, og evo, evo 3d, note 2, and kyocera torque) and samsung has been the easiest to work with. As far as knox is concerned (on note 2) it is nothing to worry about. The first day 4.3 was out we (me and lorjay) already had knox nullified and on day 2 root was working. While the same may not be true with new samsung devices. Point is knox means nothing to xda users/devs since there will always be a way around it.
4.4 on the note 3 looks okay and should be a better upgrade than 4.3 although we will have to wait and see. For myself i like aosp better since i found most of the things i like from samsung in 3rd party apps. Only thing I miss and can't get is a feature from note 3 mods (air command).
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You've always been able to uninstall bloat.. it's one of the main reasons for having Titanium Backup. And a simple Google search will confirm my above statement. It's still gonna have bloat, just not nearly as much.
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johndillinger1932 said:
You've always been able to uninstall bloat.. it's one of the main reasons for having Titanium Backup. And a simple Google search will confirm my above statement. It's still gonna have bloat, just not nearly as much.
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Always...so long as you are rooted...

Skripka said:
Always...so long as you are rooted...
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Sure, but who would even be on XDA if they weren't rooting...
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Anyone heard any updates about our release yet? I keep seeing it for so many other phones.
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Should be ready by the end of 2015
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johndillinger1932 said:
The official kit kat tw Rom actually isn't coming with much bloat at all.. and Samsung has revamped tw to be more streamlined. I'm actually looking forward to it since I use the spen alot and upgrading to a Note 3 is really a waste of money.. I can wait for the Note 4
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I'm excited to see what it's like if this is indeed the case.

sliverr7x said:
Should be ready by the end of 2015
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By then i'm pretty sure most of us will have upgraded to a new phone but for those who keep their phones for 2+ years it will be nice to not be left out of KK update. Who knows I might keep my Note 2 for a while longer... I have no problems with it and it works just fine and does everything I need and then some.

I guess we either going to get 4.4 in April or May
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...axy-note-2-galaxy-s3-rollout-surfaces-1561321

Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
I guess we either going to get 4.4 in April or May
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...axy-note-2-galaxy-s3-rollout-surfaces-1561321
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Probably on the later side. US carriers never update to the "latest" version of Android...Google always gets another release out before carriers choose to finally re-write their ROMs to get up-to-date.