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(Q) Storage solutions - any help?

Hi, I have the 16gb version of the n5 and with all the heavy games and ROM flashing I find my phone short of memory.
Firstly, I'm not really looking for cloud style solutions because for the most part, I have low signal a lot of the time. This would mean slow transfers and extra battery drainage (which the n5 really doesn't need..)
Secondly, I've been doing a little research and found that I could use otg and a USB/micro SD card.
While researching I found that I could either get a usb 3.0 otg cable with a 3.0 USB memory card or high grade micro SD card, or I could go for USB 2.0 equivalent.
The problem is, from what I've read the n5 just supports usb3.0 and is only really as fast as usb2.0. Can anyone tell me if this is true? If so, should I just get the USB 2.0 equivalent?
Any other suggestions are welcome, because I really need extra storage space.
Thanks.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.

iKlutz said:
Hi, I have the 16gb version of the n5 and with all the heavy games and ROM flashing I find my phone short of memory.
Firstly, I'm not really looking for cloud style solutions because for the most part, I have low signal a lot of the time. This would mean slow transfers and extra battery drainage (which the n5 really doesn't need..)
Secondly, I've been doing a little research and found that I could use otg and a USB/micro SD card.
While researching I found that I could either get a usb 3.0 otg cable with a 3.0 USB memory card or high grade micro SD card, or I could go for USB 2.0 equivalent.
The problem is, from what I've read the n5 just supports usb3.0 and is only really as fast as usb2.0. Can anyone tell me if this is true? If so, should I just get the USB 2.0 equivalent?
Any other suggestions are welcome, because I really need extra storage space.
Thanks.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
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I think you are referring to something like this
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I have not tested it myself but it seems promising. As for your usb concern, if you are using something like the above product, the difference in usb (3.0 vs. 2.0) should not matter as they would both work fine interchangeably

Meenova works great with the Nexus 5 :good:
If you use CM then it’s natively supported without additional apps. If you use other ROMs you may need something like StickMount (and rooted) to use the USB storage.

I have a Meenova Micro SD card reader, it works great with root and StickMount.
But there is a cheaper alternative on ebay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131063464166?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I have bought one of these aswel and it works exactly the same as the more expensive Meenova, with the additional benefit of a full sized usb on the other end.
10 times cheaper aswel.

coolboy6332 said:
I think you are referring to something like this
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I have not tested it myself but it seems promising. As for your usb concern, if you are using something like the above product, the difference in usb (3.0 vs. 2.0) should not matter as they would both work fine interchangeably
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Nice! I'm looking at sandisk micro SD cards to go with that adapter, there's a few very fast ones supporting 95mb/s! What's the fastest that n5 could handle? I'm looking at the extreme pro / plus ones here: http://www.sandisk.co.uk/products/memory-cards/microsd/
Edit: I'm rooted and running slimkat / faux kernel
Sent from the dark side of the moon.

Kingston OTG USB Flash Drive Review

This is a review of the Kingston DTDUO 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive.
I've been using a USB OTG adaptor and a normal USB drive for a while now but it was a clunky solution and had an unreliable connection. It's easy to bump and then corrupt a file mid transfer, which was also painfully slow. This flash drive is my solution to not having a micro SD slot in my phone and wanting a simple bit of storage that I can use everywhere. I anticipate travelling with it and using it as my main USB drive simply because of the ability to move things between my phone and computers so easily. It's very small and hangs off my key ring; the device has a small metal loop for this purpose but there was no string loop included. The dimensions are 27.5 x 16.5 x 8.5 mm at its largest points. The colour of the flip cover is smokey grey with a brown hue.
I found this drive at the local tech store for $25 AUD. It comes in sizes from 8GB - 64GB, and there is a USB 3.0 version also available. The build quality is decent, though the micro USB plug looks somewhat fragile (you can see a gap in the photos). Considering the notoriety of micro USB this worries me a little bit. When plugged into my phone it sits well and feels safe. It is small and easy to ignore, but this will also depend on where the micro USB port is on your phone. For my OnePlus One it sits happily at the bottom. When the device is unplugged from your phone the smokey cover protects the micro USB side. The way the device's cover flips up is a bit awkward, if you have the flat side of your micro USB port on your phone on the bottom of your phone then the little cover will face down into the surface your phone is sitting on. The way the OnePlus One port is oriented the cover stands up in the air (as you can see in DSC_5423). You could easily remove the cover, possibly without damaging anything, but this would leave the micro USB port exposed, so I probably wouldn't advise it unless it was really inconvenient.
Performance
HD Tune
Transfer Rate Minimum : 18.9 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 27.3 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 25.4 MB/sec
Access Time : 0.6 ms
Burst Rate : 22.7 MB/sec
Usb Flash Benchmark
Read: 29.13 MB/s
Write: 11.82 MB/s
A1 SD Bench Accurate (OnePlus One)
Read: 19.91 MB/s
Write: 14.90 MB/s
Real world
PC > USB 1GB file write: 13 MB/s
USB > PC 1GB file read: 20 MB/s
Phone > USB 1GB file write: 13 MB/s
USB > Phone 1GB file read: 20 MB/s
All considered, I'm pretty happy with this little USB drive. It's very convenient and the speeds are adequate. I look forward to USB 3.0 C type devices, with a better connector and faster transfers.

Biggest Flash drive?

I have the Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 and I would like to know if a 256g flash drive will work? I watch movies and TV shows on the go, 64g is not enough (the Simpsons season 1 - 25 needs about 100g) I don't have a computer anymore just my tablet. I bought the seagate wireless plus 1tb and I couldn't get it to work, don't want to order a 256g flash drive and have same trouble. Any help would be great
Sorry no I am not rooted and due to the fact that I use my Samsung allshare cast hub daily and root items can't use the hub

Anyone?

Don't you mean SD card.? Some people say the highest you can go is 64 or 128gb

128 GB is the highest you can go
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He probably means OTG cable with a hard drive. Simple drives tend to work the larger drives need more power to work via USB.
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There is an available of cable that's a "y".....one leg is the USB and the other is another female micro USB for your charging cable. Can't remember where on ebay I got mine but it does work for my external hard drives with my GS5

128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?

Guntert said:
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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This question left me extremely curious, so I have just purchased an OTG cable which will arrive in a few days. I will test out a few different EXT HDD sizes and post what the maximum my OTG will allow.
I do however forsee an increase in the discharge of the battery for larger storage devices, but we shall see.

Can't wait to see what u find

I'm gonna buy a sandisk ultra 64gb microUSB otg and I was looking for a bigger one but this must be the biggest one they have, can't wait to test it out. What I'll do is if my shows or movies won't fit I'm gonna have to erase the ones I've seen then try to make them fit. I suggest you get a 128gb micro SD card plus a big sized flash drive then you should be okay.
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So I bought an OTG cable off ebay, and it arrived. I didn't change the format of any of my external drives as I don't have the space to store anything currently anywhere else. The tablet registers there is a drive connected however it can't mount the storage device due to an unknown format. The externals I tried were 2 portables (1x 500Gb usb2.0 and 1x 1Tb usb 3.0) and 2 desktops (1x 1.5Tb and 1x 1Tb both usb 2.0). Over the next few days I will attempt to reformat the 500 Gb and 1Tb portables, and the 1Tb desktop and see if that produces any results. Due to work constraints this may take a few days, so thank you for patience. Results will be posted as soon as possible. Current format of all the externals is default NTFS.

Another Option
There's another option in which would require multiple devices unfortunately due to the limited storage. Its a product I currently use myself called "Toshiba Duo 2 in 1.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...flash-drive-toduo64grd?searchTerm=Toshina Duo
Unfortunately I am still working on my other drives. There's is a lot of moving data around (limited to USB 2.0 speeds), so please keep posted on my other externals.

Hd external

HDD DONT MOUNT
I connected my 350GB EXTERNAL HD formatted in FAT32, but it does not recognize in multimedia.
My Settings:
RK3066
MCU: KLD.2.78V
FIRMWARE: MALASKY LAST UPDATE
ROOT: YES
If I connect the 4GB pendrive it works normal, when connecting external HD, it only lights up but does nothing on the android.
I installed MountStikc (app) and it did not work, could someone tell me what the problem is?

Which usb port are you using, and is it 3.5" or 2.5"?

Most likely the USB port on the head unit doesn't supply enough power to the hard drive...even if the light comes on it may not be able to spin up.

Andromeda_Station said:
Most likely the USB port on the head unit doesn't supply enough power to the hard drive...even if the light comes on it may not be able to spin up.
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Exactly my thought. My 500GB 2.5" can only go in the front port, the rear one does not give it enough juice. Although, I am getting delivered a 12v to 5v/usb step down transfomer, coupled with a USB power booster 'Y' cable. I am hoping it will allow me to stick the HDD in the back. I hate it sticking out the front.

Power pass thru with a Seagate Slim.

Hi all,
So, I just picked up a Samsung Tab S4, near new (in box), at my local pawn shop for $280.
It had no sign of ever having been used, smokin' deal, eh?
Quite the upgrade from my Fire 10, no?
I also found a likewise near new (in box), still wrapped in plastic, Seagate Slim (2 TB) for $20.
On a roll, right?
So, I've come here to ask...
1)Is it possible to view video directly off the hd?
2)If so, what power pass thru cable or dongle has anyone found to work well?
3)Lastly, for power I would like to be portable, so would a standard brick work or do I need a PD or IQ specific type?
I see there are plenty of dongles out there ranging from $15 - $75...any suggestions?
Simplest setup would work for me, especially if there was a cable alone I could use, I don't need a ton of ports.
Thanks, really!
Bill in Western Colorado

So the short answer is yes you can play videos. The long answer is that your drive is likely formatted NTFS and while there are work around and apps that will let you utilize drives formatted as NTFS, I've found it just isn't reliable, convenient or consistent using an NTFS drive. Mine is a 1 TB drive. The problem with Fat32 is that there are partition size restrictions and file size restrictions - there are supposedly work arounds for the partition size limits, but files can't be bigger than 4GB. And some video files, particularly iso's, are bigger than 4GB. I think you are better off buying a 512gb or 1tb micro sd card and storing the video locally.
There are multiple threads discussing power formats and powered usb hubs. Mostly the hube will have full size usb 3.0 ports.
Power is complicated. Samsung does not use / is not compatible with PD or iq, and is not fully compatible with QC. They use a modified version of QC 2.0.
Here are some threads
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...st-combination-charger-hdmi-adapters-t3927308
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/accessories/power-supplies-tab-s4-t3891637

This is a few months old, but I thought I would revisit my reply. I may have been too quickly dismissive of the external hard drive idea.
I have a 1TB external USB 3.1 drive. It was formatted NTFS, and did Not play well with Android, even using Paragon's NTFS for Android. As I pointed out, exFat is restricted to 4GB max file size, and I had some ISO disk images on my drive. I had a total of about 600GB on the drive, about half video back up, the other half split between music library backup, twentyish years of digital images, and twentyish years of desktop document backups. The data I use most is my 3000+ book Calibre library. I also had two full size internal hard drives that I had pulled from my last desktop (and never replaced), along with a SATA1 to USB 3.0 powered adaptor.
So I backed up the video to one of the 500GB drives, the rest to the other, and reformatted the 1TB drive as exFat32. Then I copied the video excluding the few large ISO images along with "the rest" back to the reformatted 1TB drive. I was surprised there weren't any other files > 4GB.
I have two cables for the 1TB hard drive -- it has a wide bladed "micro B" port that carries power and data simultaneously. I have a USB 3.0 to micro B, and a USB C to micro B. So it works well, with both cables. With a hub, I can plug power + USB 3.0 hard drive cable to the tablet. With the USB C cable I can directly connect the hard drive to the tablet, and have experienced no problems with power delivery -- drive works fine, no stutters, but I don't know how fast the drain on the battery is. Certianly, you can copy files back and forth without issue. Browsing with Solid Explorer works well.
I still think you are better served with internal micro SD memory. I recently upgraded my 400GB micro SD card to a faster, 512GB PNY card for $90.
Many USB C hubs also have a micro SD card slot, so you can turn the hubs directly into a solid state hard drive with a cheap micro SD card -- if you have an old card, like I have the 400GB card I pulled, or you can buy a newer 256GB card for under $50. I have to imagine the power draw is much less, and the form factor is greatly superior -- my USB C Hub is ~ 40% smaller in volume, and is only 40gm versus 170gm for the hard drive (that is, a little under 2oz, and the hard drive is a little over 6oz). The micro SD card slot on the hub is spring loaded, and when it is loaded, the front of the card is virtually flush with the front of the hub. And it is easy to pop it into and SD card adaptor to put into a laptop.
Take care,
Joe