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I'm currently using Sony Ericsson Arc S and to be honest, I'm not happy with it.... I put my phone on sale and I got an offer. Someone wants to exchange his Desire HD to my Arc. The hardware is pretty identical, processor(Arc has 1.4GHz Snappy, but basically it's just factory clocked 1GHz one). Both are about the same price when new.
Does this phone have something really worth... Desiring?
DHD has a lot more roms than Arc, and it's something I like.
Thanks!
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The DHD is an amazing phone with a lot of awesome, stable ROMs for it. Including ICS. But it's slowly becoming a legacy device. Many of the devs who used to make the best ROMs a few months back have now moved on to other devices. Mainly HTC One X and One S. In terms of Gingerbread ROM development, the DHD has reached a state where many of the GB ROMs available for it are in a very stable state, and there's not much to be done with them anymore in terms of bug fixes and new features. The DHD will receive one last round of development when the official ICS upgrade (announced by HTC) is released, which will help mainly to fix the camcorder in all the existing ICS ROMs by providing the required driver. Right now one ROM still going great in terms of development is IceColdSandwich by LorD ClockaN, which is a the best ICS ROM for the DHD.
I'm basically telling you the scene with DHD development right now, so that you can make up your mind better. If you can manage to get a newer generation device in the next few months, then I'd suggest you hold off this trade and get a new device once for all. But if you have no plans of getting a new device, then I'd say trade. The DHD is an awesome device with a very strong build quality and great performance (depending on ROM and kernel used). Feels very solid in the hand. Though it received dreadful battery life reviews when it was launched, that hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. I can get 1+ day with light use and 8 hours with very heavy use. The processor can be overclocked to 2 GHz too (if required) depending on the kernel used. I'd prefer it over the Arc S any day.
sashank said:
The DHD is an amazing phone with a lot of awesome, stable ROMs for it. Including ICS. But it's slowly becoming a legacy device. Many of the devs who used to make the best ROMs a few months back have now moved on to other devices. Mainly HTC One X and One S. In terms of Gingerbread ROM development, the DHD has reached a state where many of the GB ROMs available for it are in a very stable state, and there's not much to be done with them anymore in terms of bug fixes and new features. The DHD will receive one last round of development when the official ICS upgrade (announced by HTC) is released, which will help mainly to fix the camcorder in all the existing ICS ROMs by providing the required driver. Right now one ROM still going great in terms of development is IceColdSandwich by LorD ClockaN, which is a the best ICS ROM for the DHD.
I'm basically telling you the scene with DHD development right now, so that you can make up your mind better. If you can manage to get a newer generation device in the next few months, then I'd suggest you hold off this trade and get a new device once for all. But if you have no plans of getting a new device, then I'd say trade. The DHD is an awesome device with a very strong build quality and great performance (depending on ROM and kernel used). Feels very solid in the hand. Though it received dreadful battery life reviews when it was launched, that hasn't been a problem for me in a long time. I can get 1+ day with light use and 8 hours with very heavy use. The processor can be overclocked to 2 GHz too (if required) depending on the kernel used. I'd prefer it over the Arc S any day.
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Aye, overclock the DHD to 2 Ghz if you wanna FRY your phone, or if your lucky....just reduce the life of it by 90%.
With the mentioned ICS build....yeah, go for it, but don't exprect to be able to take pictures, take videos or read Sim card contacts etc etc.
HTC Desire, for me, using NON-ICS Roms has been AWESOME. Solid build, feels quality, fast etc...if I had a choice i.e. money wasn't object....I'd get the HTC One X...but still keep my Desire HD as a 2nd/backup phone, coz it's sooooo awesome and reliable.
Matt
Yeah, the thing is that Arc has dozens of roms, but it its always slow. I don't know why... I've read a lit of people telling how great Dhd is, and I'm pretty sure it beats Arc. I don't know, they're about the same price, do there's not much to lose... I'll go for it!
Thanks for in fo guys. I'll trade my Arc to Dhd. I'm gonna buy newer phone later.
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Hi i want to know what is the best rom for now? Because i want to change my rom i cant decide which one is good.
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There's not a lot of active rom right now. So kinda hard to giv u some suggestion.
Kindly Hit Thanks Button if i've help u in anyway.
I've used a LOT of the XP roms and first let me say this: there is no truly "best" rom, it all boils down largely to a matter of preference.
I'm currently running TrueAncestor 1.6 and I really like it, but I do miss certain things about ICS. The thing with ICS that's worth understanding is there is no truly stable or complete ICS rom for the Xperia Play. Every ICS rom has bugs or missing features. Some are worse than others. MANY ICS roms drop support for the touchpads in major games (EA Games, Gameloft Games, Rockstar Games) due to a colossal screwup on Sony's part. You can sort of regain the touchpad functionality using things like USB BT Joystick 6 or GameKeyboard, but those are hacks and they eat system resources.
Speaking of resources, ICS roms are also much more system intensive. Your phone will run slower, games will run less well, and your overall performance will be less snappy than GB roms. It's not *terrible* for sure, but Overclock is practically necessary for ICS roms to help make up for that performance loss. The XP's hardware is dated (it was dated when it launched, technically) and it's starting to show. The paltry amount of RAM and single core processor really hurt it's ability to run ICS and still kick ass at games.
Overall though, as far as ICS roms go I'd recommend AOKP, though the dev has gone dark and not updated it in a while. It was pretty good and had a lot of nice features. I hear CM9 is also nice, and it continues to get active support and development, and will eventually be superceded by CM10. Even then though, I still ran into moderate bugs on both of them - AOKP had a persistent problem where the WIFI would stop working due to a bug in the Settings dialog, so turning on/off your Wifi could cause it to stop working altogether, and the only fix was a reflash. It was a major pain in the ass. Other ICS roms will just randomly crash or reboot, or programs won't work or will crash that should otherwise work in ICS. Overall, be prepared for instability and don't expect 100% from your phone with virtually any ICS rom installed. Blame Sony for only releasing a beta of ICS and then dropping support.
There are other good ICS roms, such as ICS++, Ice Cream Sony, and KA, but some or all of those might have lost dev support (it's been a while since I checked) and none of them really did much in terms of feature changes/support, so they've stagnated compared to more active roms.
Honestly, I realize now that there wasn't a ton in ICS that I needed, and having switched back to GB last week I'm very happy I did - performance is better, battery life is tolerable (slightly worse than AOKP was), and games run great, plus I have full touchpad support again. It looked nice, but it didn't really add anything, and the bugs and missing features finally pushed me away from it after almost a year of running it (I've been running ICS since the first ICS ports hit the XP).
As for GB roms - TrueAncestor is good. I was running JokaWild for a bit, and it was ok, but it didn't blow me away, TA's theme is more preferrable to me. I'm running DoomKernel v14 which seems ok - it's also a bit dated though and Doom could probably do some updates to improve it a bit more if he had the time, but I'm sure he's quite busy.
I hope this helps - and good luck.
Also, if you aren't Fastboot enabled, get that done - it's worth the money and you'll need it in the hunt for the best rom, otherwise your selection will be very limited.
I have been using ICS roms and they are my favourite, there is a developer called secho I use many of his ports along with the kernel he recommends my favourite so far
True ancestor with my bloatware remover is my choice
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Also its not Sony's fault about the touchpads its ea gameloft etc
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Thanx guys.. I think i will switxh to gb instead of ics
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I've used a LOT of the XP roms and first let me say this: there is no truly "best" rom, it all boils down largely to a matter of preference.
I'm currently running TrueAncestor 1.6 and I really like it, but I do miss certain things about ICS. The thing with ICS that's worth understanding is there is no truly stable or complete ICS rom for the Xperia Play. Every ICS rom has bugs or missing features. Some are worse than others. MANY ICS roms drop support for the touchpads in major games (EA Games, Gameloft Games, Rockstar Games) due to a colossal screwup on Sony's part. You can sort of regain the touchpad functionality using things like USB BT Joystick 6 or GameKeyboard, but those are hacks and they eat system resources.
Speaking of resources, ICS roms are also much more system intensive. Your phone will run slower, games will run less well, and your overall performance will be less snappy than GB roms. It's not *terrible* for sure, but Overclock is practically necessary for ICS roms to help make up for that performance loss. The XP's hardware is dated (it was dated when it launched, technically) and it's starting to show. The paltry amount of RAM and single core processor really hurt it's ability to run ICS and still kick ass at games.
Overall though, as far as ICS roms go I'd recommend AOKP, though the dev has gone dark and not updated it in a while. It was pretty good and had a lot of nice features. I hear CM9 is also nice, and it continues to get active support and development, and will eventually be superceded by CM10. Even then though, I still ran into moderate bugs on both of them - AOKP had a persistent problem where the WIFI would stop working due to a bug in the Settings dialog, so turning on/off your Wifi could cause it to stop working altogether, and the only fix was a reflash. It was a major pain in the ass. Other ICS roms will just randomly crash or reboot, or programs won't work or will crash that should otherwise work in ICS. Overall, be prepared for instability and don't expect 100% from your phone with virtually any ICS rom installed. Blame Sony for only releasing a beta of ICS and then dropping support.
There are other good ICS roms, such as ICS++, Ice Cream Sony, and KA, but some or all of those might have lost dev support (it's been a while since I checked) and none of them really did much in terms of feature changes/support, so they've stagnated compared to more active roms.
Honestly, I realize now that there wasn't a ton in ICS that I needed, and having switched back to GB last week I'm very happy I did - performance is better, battery life is tolerable (slightly worse than AOKP was), and games run great, plus I have full touchpad support again. It looked nice, but it didn't really add anything, and the bugs and missing features finally pushed me away from it after almost a year of running it (I've been running ICS since the first ICS ports hit the XP).
As for GB roms - TrueAncestor is good. I was running JokaWild for a bit, and it was ok, but it didn't blow me away, TA's theme is more preferrable to me. I'm running DoomKernel v14 which seems ok - it's also a bit dated though and Doom could probably do some updates to improve it a bit more if he had the time, but I'm sure he's quite busy.
I hope this helps - and good luck.
Also, if you aren't Fastboot enabled, get that done - it's worth the money and you'll need it in the hunt for the best rom, otherwise your selection will be very limited.
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Hi thanks for the info and suggestion but what is fastboot enabled? What it can do? Sorry for newbie question im only new at cfw world..
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[ROM] DiXperia 2 'Everlasting' | Performance. Stability. Experience. | 13.08.2012
Xperia NXT 1.2
ICS sucks btw. This custom ROM is smooth and touchpads arent buggy as hell as on ICS..
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Hi Guys and Gals,
First post here for me =) so ya new noob in town. And before i get blasted, I tried searching for something of a similar nature but the search was down and because i am looking to pick this up tomorrow for £100, thought i would post. If there is a similar post and you are privy to the url, please post below =)
Like everyone here no ICS is disappointing however the fact that GB seems to run the phone in general better, is there any real reason to upgrade the OS on this particular device?
I am aware custom ROM's for ICS and i believe JB? are available, but do these hinder, performance, compatibility, the game pad use, camera? What is the disadvantage is there to upgrading via custom ROM?
Sony puts a wealth of bloatware on their devices, but I'm told that the Walkman, Sony Movie among others actually are useful apps and are liked among the community. Do we get the option of keeping these?
In Feb/March i will be looking to get a Nexus 4, so this phone will be a secondary in the end. However how does it hold it self for web browsing and gaming? I know the resolution is pretty low for today's standards, but i am seriously considering it. Obviously if i could upgrade the OS version and keep full functionality that would be ideal, but i have seen no such confirmed reports.
Finally with the above mentioned, is there still enough support from developers to purchase this? or should i just wait and save the money for the nexus come feb? Any constructive input would be appreciated, and please if your going to bash it, follow it up with a reason that is not Sony is Lazy and because this phone is rubbish.
Thanks everyone
Chaosprime
GB is the most stable and offers the best performance for games. The disadvantage is that you'll lose your warranty. I really like the new features ICS brought, but I'm going to keep on GB, just because I use it for gaming a lot.
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GB is the most stable and offers the best performance for games. The disadvantage is that you'll lose your warranty. I really like the new features ICS brought, but I'm going to keep on GB, just because I use it for gaming a lot.
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Warranty isnt a issue as its second hand over a year old anyway. so upgrading to ICS or JB from what ive been reading around the site removes game pad or touch pad use. does g2ics or was it G2JB? this from what i gathered remains on the GB kernal but imports ICS/JB features? Does this also remove pad functionality? shouldnt if its still on the GB kernal?
My main use will be for gaming (no brainer ) and web browsing, till i get my Nexus anyway then web browsing will be on that.So for gaming purposes stick to GB, leaving GB will only worsen the gaming capabilities on the device?
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Warranty isnt a issue as its second hand over a year old anyway. so upgrading to ICS or JB from what ive been reading around the site removes game pad or touch pad use. does g2ics or was it G2JB? this from what i gathered remains on the GB kernal but imports ICS/JB features? Does this also remove pad functionality? shouldnt if its still on the GB kernal?
My main use will be for gaming (no brainer ) and web browsing, till i get my Nexus anyway then web browsing will be on that.So for gaming purposes stick to GB, leaving GB will only worsen the gaming capabilities on the device?
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Yes, leaving Gingerbread will most likely not be beneficial for the gaming experience, as the newer versions of Android are more demanding in terms of processing power and ram memory. Gin2ICS and Gin2JB are Gingerbread roms with an ICS or JB theme and some features, so it will be very close to the performance of stock Gingerbread. You will still be able to use the touchpads. I have read that there is a fix for the gamepads on Ice Cream Sandwich, not sure about Jellybean though.
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Yes, leaving Gingerbread will most likely not be beneficial for the gaming experience, as the newer versions of Android are more demanding in terms of processing power and ram memory. Gin2ICS and Gin2JB are Gingerbread roms with an ICS or JB theme and some features, so it will be very close to the performance of stock Gingerbread. You will still be able to use the touchpads. I have read that there is a fix for the gamepads on Ice Cream Sandwich, not sure about Jellybean though.
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Thanks so much. The Gin2ICS sounds sweet if the slide out controller has full functionality.
OK so i found the following links which i thought was useful. Have you had a look or attempt at these?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854682
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828902
Seems to have everything and erything fully functional and running smoothly. Might be worth a try? If one was to flash their device and didnt like the result, could they revert to stock without difficulty? or would they need to manually find the stock files off the internet?
Thanks
Chaosprime
The rom does seem like it's running okay, especially with the drivers, but they seem to be included in the rom:
Changelog:
New Bin files ( higher preformence and game combatiblity )
New Andreo Drivers for 2xx
Increase Ram without swapper implement
New Framework files ( increase Preformence and gamecompatiblity )
New Lib Files ( increase Preformence; app and gamecompatiblity )
New Sony ICS Gamepad and Touchpad drivers ( get it from Sony )
New Build.prop ( be not afraight there are 2.3.4 at build.prop its for game Compatiblity and Apps Compatiblity they was Xperia Play Optimized )
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Might be worth a try.
To get back to stock you can flash a .ftf file, plenty of guides about that on this forum.
Hello,
G2 owner here, I am considering flashing a new rom onto my not so tech savy friends Desire HD. I'm wondering how good the experience of the JB roms is? On the G2 the roms are unusable but it's certainly not a good experience, lots of random slow downs and lag, plus the camera quality sucks. I'm wondering if that is much the same on the DHD.
Would you flash a JB rom onto your Mum's phone, or would you stick with CM7? Consistent random slow downs / lag plus sub par camera quality isn't acceptable!
Also, if someone has a nice clear guide handy for rooting and installing recovery from 2.3 a link would be appreciated
Thanks!
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
koningjim said:
I think you should be here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750.
Good luck!
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Sorry my bad! I am a G2 owner, but I am looking at flashing a rom onto my friend DHD. -- updated the OP
whilst the jb roms are very stable, i wouldnt recomend them for a complete technaphoab. better safe than sorry.
on the other hand, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968854 this is very good, but synergye(lead dev) is focusing more time on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003273 this.
the sense interface is very basic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839004
and if you want the mind numbing simplicity of ios, try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991558 (i havent tried this one yet though)
as always, read the threads first
Hard to tell, depends what they use... JB ROMs (and ICS) are really stable. No reboots or crashes. Really. There are small minor bugs, but I suppose most of the people wouldn't notice them, since not all people use all functionality. I.e. I wouldn never notice Bluetooth bug since I never use it, etc.
Now, IMHO, the best combination is JT plus KangBang kernel 1.9 stable. It works great, really smooth and fast. I have really a lot of apps and everything works just fine. With KB kernel, at least on my device, I can overclock to more than 1.2Ghz, i.e. 1.5, and it really works well. 4.1.2 is the best Android for me, fastest. I also have Nexus 7 and now that I have 4.2.1 I see how slower it is compared to 4.1.2. But Nexus is so fast that it doesn't matter. On DHD it might, because it is only single core. I tried CFX also and I had lockups and slowdowns. It is also stable, but would just stop responding for me from time to time.
But all in all I would make a backup of your current ROM (stock) and go for JB/KB combo. The only downside for me is battery life, which is worse than stock, but that doesn't happen on all sets (go figure).
D.
I've decided to unearth my Xperia Play for some emulation (N64 and PS1). It's currently running Aurora Play 1.1, a GB based rom if I recall correctly. I have not used it for about 1.5 years, and was wonder what is the best rom now with the greatest performance with emulation for N64 on Mupen64Plus AE and PS1 on ePSXe. My phone antenna is broken so I will not be making any calls or texts, the device is purely for gaming/emulating.
I'm open to GB, ICS or JB roms but the touchpads need to function perfectly with no lags (I remember trying ICS roms and there was lag whenever the pads were used). Thanks for everyones feedback, I look forward to see what ROMs people are running and do the same things I do
linkandzelda said:
I've decided to unearth my Xperia Play for some emulation (N64 and PS1). It's currently running Aurora Play 1.1, a GB based rom if I recall correctly. I have not used it for about 1.5 years, and was wonder what is the best rom now with the greatest performance with emulation for N64 on Mupen64Plus AE and PS1 on ePSXe. My phone antenna is broken so I will not be making any calls or texts, the device is purely for gaming/emulating.
I'm open to GB, ICS or JB roms but the touchpads need to function perfectly with no lags (I remember trying ICS roms and there was lag whenever the pads were used). Thanks for everyones feedback, I look forward to see what ROMs people are running and do the same things I do
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High-five for being an Aurora Play user.
To my knowledge, for perfect functionality and performance, GB roms are still the best. Aurora Play is a little outdated now, especially that version, although there haven't been many fantastic advances since that rom was made in terms of GB rom performance. Vokal's GB to KitKat rom (something along those lines) is quite good, whilst I've not used it personally it was a damn good alternative to AP (better in some ways too) back in the day - I can only assume it's gotten better in the past year or so. I recommend giving it a shot.
I don't personally recommend any other Kernels aside from Doom and Wedges Kernel's to be honest - any others have originated from theirs anyway, and if they could've made them any better than they were they would've.
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High-five for being an Aurora Play user.
To my knowledge, for perfect functionality and performance, GB roms are still the best. Aurora Play is a little outdated now, especially that version, although there haven't been many fantastic advances since that rom was made in terms of GB rom performance. Vokal's GB to KitKat rom (something along those lines) is quite good, whilst I've not used it personally it was a damn good alternative to AP (better in some ways too) back in the day - I can only assume it's gotten better in the past year or so. I recommend giving it a shot.
I don't personally recommend any other Kernels aside from Doom and Wedges Kernel's to be honest - any others have originated from theirs anyway, and if they could've made them any better than they were they would've.
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Thanks for your reply. I spent the last couple of days trying various ROMs. Tried xElite Gamer 2.0, but for some reason the touch pads were not functioning, as well as a couple of other ROMs. I've ended on Gin2KitKat which is what I think you're mentioning + extremekernel r3. That kernel interested me with its extra VRAM and higher OC if I needed it. This is perfect, the ROM is super fast and it almost managed full speed PPSSPP with 0 frameskip on Burnout Legends (and some games it does run). N64 is also great, SM64 runs full speed. On the previous ROMs, it gave me some stuttering sounds but that is totally not present on this ROM. I expect that the results with PS1 will be similar.
Yeah that's the one I was talking about. Nice one.
I have to say though, not so sure on the vram thing. Nice one anyway lol.