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I have poor battery life on my desire, it barely lasts 7 hours. I have tried wiping battery stats etc, and have the screen brightness at 50%. I have read that some kernels can greatly improve battery life, is this true? If so, which would you recommend, and do I just flash it like I would a rom? I am using the latest miui.
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They can but finding the underlying app causing the phone not to sleep would be what I'd be looking at. Remove all installed apps and add them 1 at a time and see how the battery goes
EddyOS said:
They can but finding the underlying app causing the phone not to sleep would be what I'd be looking at. Remove all installed apps and add them 1 at a time and see how the battery goes
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Yeah i've tried this, there's nothing draining the battery.
Not at all
Such battery drainage can only be induced by either heavy usage, or phone not being able to go to sleep.
The differences between kernels in custom roms are merely a shades since all of them are pretty much battery efficient. You won't miraculously jump from battery life of 7 hours to 30 hours. Concentrate on your apps or even better, third party Widgets.
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Probably a hardware fault then - the OS on it's own with no apps installed shouldn't drain a battery that quickly. Did you also turn off the sync options to test that theory?
Personally sounds like a knackered battery/phone
If it isn't apps/widgets (they are the culprit for heavy usage) then it would prob be a faulty battery. I did a little test last month to see how much battery I could lose in 24 hours. I lost 8%. I guess it could be a baseline to start off with.
I was thinking why couldn't we sum up all the reasons of battery drain in some thread, so that other's wouldn't have to keep on asking why they were getting one or open a new thread for it.
In almost all cases it's backlight, WiFi, mobile network,bluetooth,GPS, screen time out.
You can also look at battery usage stats in settings to see the responsible app or system setting for battery drain.
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I was thinking why couldn't we sum up all the reasons of battery drain in some thread, so that other's wouldn't have to keep on asking why they were getting one or open a new thread for it.
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How would you go on accomplishing this if everyone has different configurations/settings which affect the drain?
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How would you go on accomplishing this if everyone has different configurations/settings which affect the drain?
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For example, somewhere I read that enabling "flashlight" and "backlight" in quickpanel settings, the battery would drain more.
What I initially thought was that we could post our experiences with bad battery life, the major reasons behind and what we did to solve it. Along with maybe the rom/kernel we would be using.
akshaypatil869 said:
What I initially thought was that we could post our experiences with bad battery life, the major reasons behind and what we did to solve it. Along with maybe the rom/kernel we would be using.
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For over an year, I have flashed my LT15i more than 20 times, trying all the official firmwares meanwhile (all rooted, of course). In my opinion, the daily consumption depends if I used more or less the radios, the players, the screen aso. Because my habits are more or less the same (I listen music and I read/navigate during my half an hour way with the subway, for example) I can affirm that the consumption is constant, around 40% daily. But, I consider that a good estimate could be done following the battery consumption by night. For me, this consumption is around 5%. With one exception: I had installed once an application (from the market!) which downloaded over night almost 10MB of ads, and drained my battery almost 20%! Never ever I have experienced battery drain with official firmwares...
Use BetterBatteryStats and the Android's own included Battery Usage screen and you got all the info you need.
I'm just wondering if there's any known methods to increase the battery life without sacrificing performance. I know the basic stuff like turning off Gps, Wifi, Data, etc. when not needed but is there anything else I can do to prolong the battery life? I'm currently running the wanam lite rom with trininty's alpha 7b kernel. A couple of people reported great battery life with this combo but I'm only getting a little bit better than stock battery life.
What exactly is a little bit better than stock? How many hours are you getting?
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What exactly is a little bit better than stock? How many hours are you getting?
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Well with moderate use ( 3-4 hours of web browsing, playing games, etc.) on stock I get about 9 hours and with this rom and kernel I get roughly 9 and half.
theboss23 said:
Well with moderate use ( 3-4 hours of web browsing, playing games, etc.) on stock I get about 9 hours and with this rom and kernel I get roughly 9 and half.
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I get the same too, kind of hate it :/ I don't understand what drain so much when the phone is not in use, I always wonder why stand by time is so bad in my phone, I get much better battery life rooted but I'm stock right now, I got tired of flashing roms and I hate to wipe every time I flashed so I prefer stock to stop doing that
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jgalan14 said:
I get the same too, kind of hate it :/ I don't understand what drain so much when the phone is not in use, I always wonder why stand by time is so bad in my phone, I get much better battery life rooted but I'm stock right now, I got tired of flashing roms and I hate to wipe every time I flashed so I prefer stock to stop doing that
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Yeah, The rom is based off of stock H2 and is supposed to have some battery tweaks to make it last longer. All of the people said battery was good using this combo and 1 person said it's been 1 day 16 minutes, and they had 26% left but they didn't post the usage.
Ok this is with the stock rom. Heavy usage by my means any way. It was on the charger for a few mins here and there. But really not enough to show real battery increase.
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The best way to determine battery life (not I played a game for a little, surfed the web over 4G, called some, texted all day) is to take a screenshot of your Screen On time, and overall time since charging. Otherwise, your statements are pointless.
If u have a rooted device u should try the highonandriod Rom it dies have better battery life than stock
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The best way to determine battery life (not I played a game for a little, surfed the web over 4G, called some, texted all day) is to take a screenshot of your Screen On time, and overall time since charging. Otherwise, your statements are pointless.
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Well the purpose of this thread wasn't to solve an issue with my battery life or determine my exact amount battery life, but rather to find out if there are any tricks to improve battery life. So there's no reason for me to post any screens of my battery stats because it's irrelevant to the thread, I was just wondering if anyone knew any tricks or tips they use to improve their battery life.
gonnapushthru06 said:
If u have a rooted device u should try the highonandriod Rom it dies have better battery life than stock
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I'm very happy with Wanam Lite for now, it's so far the smoothest stock rom I've flashed and I'm eagerly awaiting the next update, so I don't really plan on flashing anything else for now. Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll definitely give it a shot when I'm looking for another rom to flash.
Disable auto synchronize. Thats the key.
theboss23 said:
Well with moderate use ( 3-4 hours of web browsing, playing games, etc.) on stock I get about 9 hours and with this rom and kernel I get roughly 9 and half.
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I'm on Verizon but I use synergy with imoseyons kernel and could get 5bhours browsing but I played fifa pretty much all day lol. Lte all day.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 with AOKP Butter
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Well the purpose of this thread wasn't to solve an issue with my battery life or determine my exact amount battery life, but rather to find out if there are any tricks to improve battery life. So there's no reason for me to post any screens of my battery stats because it's irrelevant to the thread, I was just wondering if anyone knew any tricks or tips they use to improve their battery life.
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Don't use the phone. The screen will almost always be your biggest power draw. Screen-on time is relevant because if you have the screen on for three or four hours you aren't going to see battery life that is any better.
joshnichols189 said:
Don't use the phone. The screen will almost always be your biggest power draw. Screen-on time is relevant because if you have the screen on for three or four hours you aren't going to see battery life that is any better.
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Your right, it is relevant when comparing, but I'm not comparing anything here just looking for tips and tricks. I looked at battery stats when I compared the stock battery to the rom battery and recorded both stats on heavy use. If you want statistics, I got 9h 38m of battery use, internet and netflix took up 31% battery consumption, games took up 23%, phone calls and texting took up 12%, and the other 34% is basically screen off time. These were the stats from when I tested it on the Wanam Lite rom. I'm not confused as to why it only lasts about 9 and a half, hours as you can see I was constantly on the phone when I was testing it.
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Your right, it is relevant when comparing, but I'm not comparing anything here just looking for tips and tricks. I looked at battery stats when I compared the stock battery to the rom battery and recorded both stats on heavy use. If you want statistics, I got 9h 38m of battery use, internet and netflix took up 31% battery consumption, games took up 23%, phone calls and texting took up 12%, and the other 34% is basically screen off time. These were the stats from when I tested it on the Wanam Lite rom. I'm not confused as to why it only lasts about 9 and a half, hours as you can see I was constantly on the phone when I was testing it.
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Well not only were you watching a video (I assume, instead of just browsing) Netflix, you were streaming. That probably did a number on your battery. I know I cannot stream Netflix for very long if I want my phone to last through the day. Also games, things that will ramp up the processor, etc while using the screen will tax your battery more than usual.
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I'm just wondering if there's any known methods to increase the battery life without sacrificing performance. I know the basic stuff like turning off Gps, Wifi, Data, etc. when not needed but is there anything else I can do to prolong the battery life? I'm currently running the wanam lite rom with trininty's alpha 7b kernel. A couple of people reported great battery life with this combo but I'm only getting a little bit better than stock battery life.
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Some may not like my answer because it removes some bells and whistles, but I suggest turning off all the motion features. Just my two cents. Battery life was better and I found most of the motion features unnecessary.
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Don't use the phone. The screen will almost always be your biggest power draw. Screen-on time is relevant because if you have the screen on for three or four hours you aren't going to see battery life that is any better.
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"Dont use the phone" ....LMAO!!
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Well not only were you watching a video (I assume, instead of just browsing) Netflix, you were streaming. That probably did a number on your battery. I know I cannot stream Netflix for very long if I want my phone to last through the day. Also games, things that will ramp up the processor, etc while using the screen will tax your battery more than usual.
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Yeah, this isn't my everyday use, nor would I do this if I was trying to maximize my battery life. This was purely for testing the battery life on heavy usage and I found that it was only a little bit better when compared to stock. I'm in no way complaining, I think Wanam has done a amazing job with the rom. The stability is great, speed is comparable to JB roms, and battery is a lot better. Unless used heavily as shown above, then it's only slightly better then stock which is kind of odd but makes sense. I was just wondering what all a person could do to maximize their battery life, that's all.
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Some may not like my answer because it removes some bells and whistles, but I suggest turning off all the motion features. Just my two cents. Battery life was better and I found most of the motion features unnecessary.
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Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely try this since I don't use most of the motion features either.
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"Dont use the phone" ....LMAO!!
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Once again, thanks for the useless post. It's called sarcasm. Too bad your skull is too thick to pick up on it.
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Yeah, this isn't my everyday use, nor would I do this if I was trying to maximize my battery life. This was purely for testing the battery life on heavy usage and I found that it was only a little bit better when compared to stock. I'm in no way complaining, I think Wanam has done a amazing job with the rom. The stability is great, speed is comparable to JB roms, and battery is a lot better. Unless used heavily as shown above, then it's only slightly better then stock which is kind of odd but makes sense. I just was wondering what all a person could do to maximize their battery life, that's all.
Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely try this since I don't use most of the motion features either.
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No worries! If you have trouble with idle battery drain, something like Juice Defender will help a lot if you're going to have the phone idle for extended periods of time. Other than that, all I can think of is underclocking (I run at 1350), and sometimes overclocking your min-CPU speed can help as well. The thought behind this is is that the CPU will be able to finish tasks faster, even if slightly, and then be able to go back into deep sleep. I know a lot of people on the Galaxy Nexus forums run 700min, 1000max because of this.
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sometimes overclocking your min-CPU speed can help as well. The thought behind this is is that the CPU will be able to finish tasks faster, even if slightly, and then be able to go back into deep sleep. I know a lot of people on the Galaxy Nexus forums run 700min, 1000max because of this.
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Thanks, I actually didn't know that, I also heard undervolting can increase battery life and reduce the battery/phone heating up but someone said that it can it will have a major effect on the CPU, not sure if it's true or not.
I noticed when I was looking at battery stats (trying to figure out what's eating the battery; very little in the way of apps installed)
I bought the phone last week, but I bought it used on eBay. It came with the original box and the manufacture date is 6/30/12, so I figure this was someone's everyday device for 10 months.
The reason I ask is that sudden dip from 20 to 30%. And the other reason I ask is that I only get about 10 hours with 3 hours of screen-on time on a full charge. If the battery is just losing capacity, that's fine - I'll get a ZeroLemon 2300maH battery and I should get much better life. If the battery still has close to full capacity, then I'll get an extended-capacity battery. I just need some guidance as to whether or not it's crapping out so I have a better idea of what to buy.
Thanks!
Jump is weird. Could be the battery is flaky. But I would make effort to reseat it. I want to see what BetterBatteryStats says about that terrible wakelocking, though.
You can delete batterystats.bin from /data/system. Everyone says it does nothing. But I do it anyway. Because I can.
My stock battery usually gives me 7-8hrs of standby and 3hrs of screen time.
Zerolemon 2300mah gives me 20hrs of standby and usually 5hrs of screen time.
You can check in the accessories section in the zerolemon 2300mah that I've posted some of my results via screenshots.
About the dip, I'm not sure I've never noticed that on any of my batteries.
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Jump has been there consistently. Had the phone 4 days, and every day when it hits 30% it drops to 20%.
Installed Betterbatterystats and I'll see what's keeping it awake. It does seem to be awake an awful lot compared to my old Atrix (switched to T-Mobile a month or so ago, and just got the phone after I was switched for a bit), which got way better battery life.
10 hours with 3 hours of on screen time is just about average for the stock battery.
I would recommended getting the zero lemon 2300 mAh slim batteries if you're lucky enough to place an order for them. They only restock in small amounts and they disappear quick.
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10 hours with 3 hours of on screen time is just about average for the stock battery.
I would recommended getting the zero lemon 2300 mAh slim batteries if you're lucky enough to place an order for them. They only restock in small amounts and they disappear quick.
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Well that's good to know. They're in stock right now on Amazon so I'll pick up the 2-pack with the charger.
OK so far the phone has spent half its time unplugged staying awake, and about half of that is being caused by DeskSMS. I got a trial a long time back and decided not to bother because I didn't use it, and when my google account restored to the phone, it apparently got installed and I didn't notice. I've uninstalled that and we'll see what else happens. Very thankful for the BetterBatteryStats suggestion; I'd never heard of it.
Well the battery is lithium ion. With repeated charging the battery loses capacity. If the battery is the one that came with the phone, buy a new stock one for cheap off Amazon. That is if you use NFC and have a certain fitted case. If not, go for an extended battery by reviews on Amazon and XDA. My battery is from December and I haven't noticed any decrease yet. The temperature of which your phone runs and the temperature of the environment also effect battery life.
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Great news, everyone. Desk Sms was the culprit all along. This is 3 hours of Netflix and then sleep over night. Just a couple wake locks that I can attribute to emails received overnight.
So out turns out the battery other than the weird drop, at least with the power saver on.
Thanks in particular for the Better Battery Stats suggestion. Without it I would have been majorly confused.
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DeerSteak said:
Great news, everyone. Desk Sms was the culprit all along. This is 3 hours of Netflix and then sleep over night. Just a couple wake locks that I can attribute to emails received overnight.
So out turns out the battery other than the weird drop, at least with the power saver on.
Thanks in particular for the Better Battery Stats suggestion. Without it I would have been majorly confused.
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Glad you were able to get it all figured out. Wakelocks are VERY annoying. Search for kms.apk if Mediaserver is ever draining your battery in the future, it is a common battery draining problem as well.
If you're on TouchWiz using Power Saver, I'd recommend disabling it. It throttles your CPU in half. This may cause instability, or overheating problems or sometimes even battery drain ironically. I do however recommend, KT747 kernel with changing govs, and I/O scheduler and using Team Kernelizer tweaks. Try Eugene's CPUSleeper and it may help put DeskSMS to sleep for good. And how could I forget? Definitely try Greenify. It makes apps behave akin to iOS devices. Best of luck.
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Glad you were able to get it all figured out. Wakelocks are VERY annoying. Search for kms.apk if Mediaserver is ever draining your battery in the future, it is a common battery draining problem as well.
If you're on TouchWiz using Power Saver, I'd recommend disabling it. It throttles your CPU in half. This may cause instability, or overheating problems or sometimes even battery drain ironically. I do however recommend, KT747 kernel with changing govs, and I/O scheduler and using Team Kernelizer tweaks. Try Eugene's CPUSleeper and it may help put DeskSMS to sleep for good. And how could I forget? Definitely try Greenify. It makes apps behave akin to iOS devices. Best of luck.
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The problem with Greenify, in this case, is you can't hibernate apps that send notifications, or you will never get them.
The power saver doesn't bother me. Being in the notification area makes it easy to toggle and performance has been fine. Better Battery Stats says it gets up to 1 GHz Mac and that is plenty on the web or Facebook or Netflix.
I had assumed the media server popping up was due to Netflix streaming. It hasn't been back today since recharging. If it comes back I'll look more at disabling. Today battery life has been great. 12 hours with 2 hours of on time and at 45 percent. I definitely over reacted to the drop and it must have been Desk SMS which never should have been installed.
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If anyone has any issue with their battery sprint corp stores have a tester takes about ten min. They won't have a problem doing it if you're nice, sprint or not. It will either end up excellent marginal or poor... they don't charge for the test.
tmobile s3 running wicked. best rom i've ever used
is it just me or is the kitkat ROM really sucks----battery pretty well?
I also notice that the CPU usage does not drop to 20 percent idle but when I used other ROM (JB based) it becomes 5 percent.
RAM usage is good but I think it hogs the CPU. I used cpuz on measuring the cpu usage
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is it just me or is the kitkat ROM really sucks----battery pretty well?
I also notice that the CPU usage does not drop to 20 percent idle but when I used other ROM (JB based) it becomes 5 percent.
RAM usage is good but I think it hogs the CPU. I used cpuz on measuring the cpu usage
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Where can I get the JB rom for OGP?
For me, Android was best at JB and went backwards with KK.
Yes, I've noticed absolutely horrible battery life with KK. KK just feels like it is several different parts all just thrown together.
The only reason I think is that theoretically JB uses more battery is that the system uses more voltage than the kitkat. however, what's less voltage use if the CPU is always busy and wakeups are just everywhere.
Hi guys, maybe you could post in some battery stats so we could know more about whats draining your battery in particular and suggest some fixes. I've actually experienced the opposite with kitkat-battery life for me improved. There was even an instance that I got the phone to last 30 hours, with 5 hours, 48 mins. screen. On another instance I got 15 hours life and 5 hours 25 mins screen on. I just lost the screenshots as I had to reflash stock when i was doing some G3 mods., but nevertheless i could post some new ones.
I value batter life was well and i'm curious to see how yours could be improved too..
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Hi guys, maybe you could post in some battery stats so we could know more about whats draining your battery in particular and suggest some fixes. I've actually experienced the opposite with kitkat-battery life for me improved. There was even an instance that I got the phone to last 30 hours, with 5 hours, 48 mins. screen. On another instance I got 15 hours life and 5 hours 25 mins screen on. I just lost the screenshots as I had to reflash stock when i was doing some G3 mods., but nevertheless i could post some new ones.
I value batter life was well and i'm curious to see how yours could be improved too..
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What a battery life. 15 hours screen time?
how can we accurately measure? because I only use CPU-Z and installed DS battery saver to save power. right now it only used 2% of my battery during the night. (from 1:45 - 5:50am)
I see. can you tell me what app should I use to determine CPU usage of each app/service?
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What a battery life. 15 hours screen time?
how can we accurately measure? because I only use CPU-Z and installed DS battery saver to save power. right now it only used 2% of my battery during the night. (from 1:45 - 5:50am)
I see. can you tell me what app should I use to determine CPU usage of each app/service?
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No, my battery lasted 15 hours, and my screen-on time (total time i spent using the phone) was 5+ hours coz i basically used my phone then for gaming the whole day I suggest you download gsam battery monitor app (it also has a temperature_bat. Usage graph), as well as wakelock detector. Another alternative would be better battery stats. What you would need to observe would be the apps and wakelocks draining your battery both when you are using your phone, and also when its idle.
I also notice that battery capacity is 2A in which it should be 3.140A right?
this shows on kitKat but on jellybean, it's 3.140A again.
is there something wrong with the detection of battery capacity?
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I also notice that battery capacity is 2A in which it should be 3.140A right?
this shows on kitKat but on jellybean, it's 3.140A again.
is there something wrong with the detection of battery capacity?
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What happened was that in kitkat, the permisssions required to be able to access battery stat files changed. Thus, apps w/c could freely access the batter stats in JB cannot gain complete access in Kitkat. This is the case for some battery monitor apps w/c now have lesser accuracy in reporting battery. No worries though, as there are means to bypass this problem. If you have xposed you could install a module for this. Also, some apps like gsam battery monitor come with a separate root companion app. Once you install those batter stats will be accurate.
Here's a screenshot of my battery stats for today..might not be 5+ hrs of screen on as i did a lot of rebooting today (themed with g3 tweaksbox). Nevertheless, this is just to show that kitkat has the potential to provide good battery life. Also enclosed is a screenshot of one of the battery apps i use, gsam.
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
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Perry2547 said:
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Just so you know, first my cell radio and wifi were both on the whole time. Second, i was on auto brightness the whole time. Third, i played clash of clans as you see in there.
If you have not done this already, adjust your cpu to save your battery juice. Set the cpu governor to powersaver or interactive mode if you just using the phone to send msg and make calls. I let my phone run on msm-dvcs and when I'm not plug in. Check out ROM toolbox if you're rooted. Seriously folks, instead of complaint about how much the roms suck the juice, try these different ways to see they make any difference for you.
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Perry2547 said:
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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That's pretty much a tablet use. You want great battery buy a zero lemon battery, the bulk is worth it, I got 3 days with very heavy use
Perry2547 said:
Hey everybody! I have some findings I absolutely must share so you can benefit as well.
I've been doing some tinkering and I've find a way to significantly increase battery life on the OGP.
First thing you'll want to do is put your phone into airplane mode.
Second, turn your screen brightness down as low as it will go. I mean, all of the way down.
Third, don't play any games on your phone.
Try those three tweaks and see what kind of battery improvement you get.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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I found a way to make my phone last a long time. I just turn my phone off and don't use it. I wish I would have though of this sooner.
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