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Hello all.
It appears we can expect the transition for 3g data on the 1900 MHz PCS band sometime between now and the end of the year as T Mobile is really looking to deploy LTE in 2013.
So, we (T Mo USA customers) all learned the hard way that we needed an older model micro SIM in order to get data on our phone.
Does anyone know if we will need a newer micro SIM (actually-the current micro SIM provided by T Mobile for the One S) to access the 3g data once it has been deployed?
What do you opine? Any insight would be great.
Thanks!
Shouldn't need to. Some places already have the 1900Mhz deployed as test beds and I haven't heard anything about needing a new sim.
All SIMs do nowadays is hold your subscriber number that gets relayed to a tower. That number is then looked up in a database to see if you meet requirements (e.g. are a paying customer, what services you have enabled, etc.).
I have an old SIM from 2007 that I am still using so I it doesn't work I'll let you know
I had no trouble going from a 2G to a 3G device with it if that helps you.
The only thing I'm worried about is if the 1900Mhz will be counted as roaming on AT&T and whether we'll have to pay extra for it.
I'm not getting data. I just got a sim card from tmobile today.
No data for me. Talked to tmobile and they said to talk to HTC.
What should i do?
Ask for an older SIM. The newer SIMs that Tmo has been using haven't worked on One Xs. Try seeing if they have any older miniSIMs and then you can cut it into a microSim.
jonshipman said:
Shouldn't need to. Some places already have the 1900Mhz deployed as test beds and I haven't heard anything about needing a new sim.
All SIMs do nowadays is hold your subscriber number that gets relayed to a tower. That number is then looked up in a database to see if you meet requirements (e.g. are a paying customer, what services you have enabled, etc.).
I have an old SIM from 2007 that I am still using so I it doesn't work I'll let you know
I had no trouble going from a 2G to a 3G device with it if that helps you.
The only thing I'm worried about is if the 1900Mhz will be counted as roaming on AT&T and whether we'll have to pay extra for it.
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T Mobile has roaming agreements with AT&T, so I wouldn't worry about that. With regards to 3g on the 1900 MHz PCS band, it actually has nothing to do with roaming agreements via AT&T. T Mobile is actually reframing their network to allow HSPA and HSPA+ via 1900 spectrum opposed to its current structure which only supports 2g data on the same frequency.
According to T Mobile, they are refarming frequencies of their network to modernize their network; pushing 3g traffic to their 1900 MHz frequency allows them to deploy true LTE on their current 3g AWS bands (1700/2100).
My original concern was, how there is clearly an incompatibility with the newer micro SIMs and the international One X, will that incompatibility cause me to have to switch SIMs when 3g is moved over 1900? I'm not savvy enough to understand the issue between T Mo's current micro SIMs and the reasoning behind the incompatibility with the One X. I certainly don't want to miss out on faster HSPA speeds when it does take off in Boston so, I figured I would ask.
Do you have your One X set to GSM or GSM/WCDMA auto? I currently have mine set on the latter.
Thanks!
AndG404 said:
I'm not getting data. I just got a sim card from tmobile today.
No data for me. Talked to tmobile and they said to talk to HTC.
What should i do?
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There is a thread in the General section discussing this.
You should call into a local store and say you need an older micro SIM, specifically ask for a non GBA micro SIM. If your local store does not have one in stock, the rep might be nice enough to email other local reps and call you back (as they did with me) when they receive a response. Hopefully, you wont strike out. If so, you would have to eBay or Amazon your older micro SIM.
I ended up driving about 10 miles from my office to pick one up as none of the T Mobile stores closest to me (6 of them) had them in stock. When I finally got one, I had never been happier getting Edge speeds in my life, lol.
Thanks, man!
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No prob! Glad I could help
Status update...
I thought it would be courteous to update all reading this thread on my discoveries.
I've re-visited the T-Mobile store with a copy of the information found on this thread in hands, only to find that the guys working on that store are either unprepared or unwilling to help. They told me that T-Mobile only carries one type of micro sim across all their stores, they indicated they were not willing to do the legwork, very disappointing since I've been T-Mobile's customer for over 10 years.
Sounds like the alternative is to dig this special, older micro sim out of ebay or amazon, or move to another provider.
Any other alternatives?
That stinks!
Please know that I too struck out after calling 3 local stores (all within 3-5 miles). You probably got someone with less experience or perhaps you went during store peak hours. I recommend you call a branch (obviously not that one) and ask for a manager. Let the manager know that you are looking for a specific type of micro SIM, a non GBA kind. Let him or her know that you have struck via customer care and that he is your last resort as the T Mobile store closest to where you live no longer carry that SIM.
Out of all of T Mo stores that I called, only one person had no clue of what I was talking about but did get someone else on the phone for me. They all told me they no longer carried the older micro SIM.
Don't let this experience discourage you. If you want it for free, you have to call around.
Last resort would be eBay, etc.
Good luck bro!
Hey guys, im thinking of getting a One X for t-mobile and I want to know if all full size sims are non GBA. i already have a cut down full size sim so will that work in the One X on edge speeds?
Jelly: That's what I did when I first got my international HOX and it worked fine with EDGE. Please share if you start receiving 4G speeds....
Thanks,
Why dont you guys just wait till tmo announces their new htc one+?
Hi, I'm planning on going on a long trip to nz and would like to use my phone over there. I know it has to be unlocked and stuff, but once that is all said and done, would I still have to change the radio to have good signal? The last time I went on my vacation with my sensation, the signal wasn't all that great until I flashed a radio that worked well for nz users, was wondering if that'll apply to the s4 as well. Thanks.
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I am an American living in Australia. (very similar mobile infrastructure w/ NZ. Kiwis to Aussies are just like Canadians to Americans)
I actually ordered the Tmo m919 sent here because all the avail bands for tmo (I still have tmo in the US). I bought it in full. Just got it a few days ago and after unlock it works great! IMO I think the tmo variant is one of the best out there. The octocores are a joke as they do not save anything on battery life not to mention performance gains. I've used tmo S3 and the tmo S4 has just about all the avail international bands out there. The only thing is there are not many dev in tmo based roms but plenty can be ported over from the i9505 variant.
On stock firmware:
1) no need to change APNS. After unlock I popped the local SIM here works great. The beauty is I pop my Tmobile SIM in, turn on wifi calling. Turn off roaming and make calls home w/ 100% clarity over wifi dialing direct US numbers w/o incurring any international fees.
Wifi calling really shines here. Will only work with active Tmobile SIM (tmo phone number).
2) All data, mms works great
3) AU and NZ do not have LTE. Just be thankful they just rolled out 4G for most networks here. There are plenty of patchy areas of 3G. Sometimes really bad in the city.
On custom firmware:
1) works even better!
2) wifi tethering hack is really good when u don't have decent internet access.
3) a lot of cheap prepaid packages here. cellular communications is about the only inexpensive thing here in AU/NZ compared with other commodities/services in the US.
*** You should call Tmo and get the unlock code well in advance. It has taken from 5-14 days to get an unlock code. My phone is newer so the free unlock method does not work (manufacture date 8/10/13). A good thing I do unlocking on the side so I plug it into my programmer box and unlock in about 3 secs.
Hope this helps
I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
alynch75 said:
I know that the P605 will not work with LTE. However I can confirm that my straight talk Sim card works and I am getting HSPA+ (ATT Straight Talk Card) Here is my situation. I purchased a sim car from AT&T and activated it on the Gophone plan.. $35 per month for 500 minutes and unlimited text and data. For some reason no matter what APN I put in I don't get any data. I got data the first night I set it up and now I get no data. I have a International Version of the Galaxy S4 running with a GoPhone dumb phone $50 per month unlimited everything. (AT&T system does not recognize the IMEI so it reverts it to a dumb phone). Why isn't it working for my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I figure $35 bucks isn't a bad deal. Please assist or am I dead in the water.
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I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
TMOBILE
marshwc said:
I also have a P605, and I've been trying to get connected via Red Pocket Mobile, an AT&T MVNO, but I haven't had much luck. However, my issues are with Red Pocket's terrible customer service, and trying to get their smallest data plan (1GB for $10) connected to the sim card (that it took them 2 weeks to send).
I've read about a T-Mobile $30/month plan for BYOD devices that I will test out, once I get the sim card from them (currently backordered)...My device had a USA T-Mobile profile already present in the APN settings, I'm hoping it will work!
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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I had that Tmobile plan however my area is not fully framed for the 1900MHZ on tmobile. AT&T works but like I said must be something funky going one. At this point I may send my device back for a refund or sell it. I may just wait for a US carrier to get it. Yeah I know I won't get updates or support from US carriers.........wait damn that........ I will get my money back for this one and just go back to using my wifi version. (gave to my wife but will have to get it back) US carriers really suck when it comes to certain things.
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
Bummer
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Good luck getting your WiFi back from your wife
San Diego should be farmed to 1900 so I'm hoping for decent coverage around town. I faced the same dilemma here, wait or go for it... My old tablet was an Acer A500 so I really needed something (and some people complain about lag on the Note? Ha!).
If you want, I could send you the APN setting Red Pocket lists on their manual setup page, if you think that would help...
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Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
alynch75 said:
Alas you are correct. Wife won't give up that darn thing. Has passwords on it and all her personal stuff. ARGGGGGG!!!!! NOw what do I do.
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Sorry... can't help with that
I noticed someone in another thread mentioned they had AT&T working. I can't post links, but in the Original Android Development section, "[RECOVERY] TWRP2.6.3.x TeamWin Recovery Project 12/27" at the top of page 11 there is a message about using AT&T and getting HSPA+ data.
Trying to post a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515656&page=11
Good luck!
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
jinda628 said:
I'm expecting my P605 this Friday. I got it from Ebay. I have a TMO on my Note 3, so technically, should my sim card work on my P605 when I try it?
Will the APN seetings on the phone for TMO work on the P605? Thanks guys.
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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There shouldn't be any problems using the sim and APN settings. The data rate you will see will depend on your area. If TMO has 'reformed' the edge frequencies to HSPA then you will get decent data. Otherwise you may get stuck with edge...
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So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
jinda628 said:
So if I get 30/18 speed in my house and 20/3 more or less at work. *Should I expect to get the same speed when I put my sim in the tablet?
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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If your Note 3 isn't using LTE when it gets those speeds, then 'maybe'. Because the P605 doesn't have a perfect match for US freqs it still may not. I'm not sure where you are located, but if it's in a refarmed area you should (P605 supports HSPA on 1900). Here is the link (hope it goes) for the refarmed areas:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/blog/2013/12/17/network-modernization-update
Sorry, I'm just learning all this too, and I can't really give you a definitive answer!
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Hey bro you've been a big help. Thanks. I bought the tablet without knowing this issue. Anyway, I get a 4G LTE signal on my Note 3 so I guess that's LTE speed. I'm in Houston, TX and it says in the link you posted that we are one of the modernized market so we'll see.
Has anyone gotten the P605 to work on AT&T
Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Has anyone gotten this thing to work on the AT&T go Plans?
I need a carrier with a good rate that uses the AT&T network. Previously I would put my international devices on the go phone plan since it sees it in the system as a dumb phone however with this one it won't connect to the data. Gives me a message that I need to add a supported data plan.
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Check out
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/02/best-prepaid-data-carriers-and-plans.html
Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
jinda628 said:
Ok guys. Tried my TMO sim on this note 10.1 and it's only getting hspa+. I run a speedtest and got 11/3 d/u speed.
It's a lot better if I tether my note 3, I'm getting the same speed I get from phone.
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Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
marshwc said:
Because the P605 doesn't support LTE in the US frequencies, HSDPA+ is the best you will be able to do. Your note 3 is tuned to use the LTE freqs here.
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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
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Yeah I was told about that. I just want to see how big is the difference. Making me think twice about this LTE version but I prefer the Snapdragon over Exynos.
Are all Wifi version on Exynos SOC?
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...
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All WiFi versions are Exynos...
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I see. Thanks.
Maybe thats one reason I'll stick with this LTE version. Maybe someday TMO will utilize the same band. I hope
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
all of my verizon branded devices from the last couple years will allow a non-verizon sim, but will have a big fat triangle exclaimation mark notification that never leaves the notification panel stating that a non-verizon sim card is inserted.
I do not have experience with this device, but I imagine they will do the same thing. @[email protected]
That would annoy me. Thanks if anybody can let me know thanks.
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Picked up the Verizon model SM-T837V , and have it working on AT&T. (Colorado)
Not getting very good speeds, had to set the values for the AT&T apn , maybe i did that wrong. None the less it is working on AT&T shows as HSPA+ network under Sim status
Oh so works on att.. Can I ask where you got it so quickly? Verizon store has it? How much cheers
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SovRoxx said:
Oh so works on att.. Can I ask where you got it so quickly? Verizon store has it? How much cheers
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Hi, are you still only getting hspa speeds?
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Hi, are you still only getting hspa speeds?
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Took around town with me yesterday and tested a few times, never got over 2 or 3 Mbps on ATT , but testing with the Verizon sim I got 40Mbps ish but that was at the Verizon store it self... I dont know much about bands or even signal strength etc... currently LTE Discovery shows me on HSPA+ -83.0 dBm and my speed test was 1.97 Mbps Down 0.28 Up .
Was going to bring it into the AT&T store today and check again.
the APN I am using
Name: ATT Broadband
APN: Broadband
Proxy: Not set
Port : Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server : Not Set
MMSC :Not Set
Multimedia message proxy : Not Set
Multimedia message port : Not Set
MCC : 310
MNC: 410
AUth Type: Not Set
APN type: default,mms,supl,hipri,fota
APN protocol : IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming : IPv4/IPv6
Bearer : Unspecified
Mobile virtual network operator type : None
SovRoxx said:
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
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I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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hello i'm in canada and planning to get the verizon version . but do it has the dial pad as the international and if yes have you tried to change the csc to remove verizon bloatware?
Cheers guys
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Verizon store by my house had them. apparently only has the 64gb model.. One thing i noticed it would not check for system updates unless I was on wifi.. if i was on ATT it gave some sort of authentication error when i checked for updates..was worried but then tested under wifi and it had no issue.. I do get a "not Verizon sim " warning that seems to be caused by an app called "Setup Wizard" , which i force stopped and the warning went away... (until reboot of course)
Was 729 $ , I want to replace my ipad pro on ATT with this, I just wonder what other issues I may encounter later using a Verizon tablet on ATT. I wonder would it be better just to leave it on Verizon and pay for both Verizon and Att data plans.. Verizon coverage at my house is horrible so I would rather not switch my cell phone over from att, but the tab would be on wifi at home so......
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Thanks! Well... Verizon store had one here but no keyboard case... So I found I couldn't get the half off deal if one doesn't check out both units at the same time. So I went to best buy for wifi... Got a grey version. Like it so far.... Screen is great for movies, maybe wish was a bit more snappy to navigate around like i can with my s7 edge lol... But that may an illusion as the screen is bigger on s4 taking longer to reach around the screen with hands. Still less tiring than ipad for me with all the hand sweeps when busy.
Also little disappointed in multitasking.. Wish was a floating app u can sweep from the side over an active app pair so u can easily reference 3 apps fast.. Can kinda do that on ipad i think.. Ill figure it out! And many apps i use cant multitask pair which annoying not samsung fought I guess. Still worth it
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Airfoil said:
I bought the Verizon model and plugged in my T-Mobile sim card and it worked straight away.
On a side note, I went straight to the APN section expecting to have to manually enter my T-Mobile APN and was pleasantly surprised to see it was already in there along with: Consumer Cellular, Family Mobile, LYCA, MetroPCS, Multibrand, Project Fi, Red Pocket, Republic, Ting, Tracfone, Ulta, Vodafone & Walmart.
So I would guess it has all of the cellular radio frequencies onboard.
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What kind of speeds are you getting with it on T-Mobile? Are you getting good LTE speeds? I want to get one, but am on T-Mobile (and not switching). Sprint launched their version today, but am I not confident T-Mobile will get one. There was only one CNET article that stated T-Mobile would get it.
Thanks!
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What kind of speeds are you getting with it on T-Mobile? Are you getting good LTE speeds? I want to get one, but am on T-Mobile (and not switching). Sprint launched their version today, but am I not confident T-Mobile will get one. There was only one CNET article that stated T-Mobile would get it.
Thanks!
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I live in a bad spot for speed testing, at my house I get around 10 Mbps up/down. I just drove up the street a mile or so and checked there and got ~30 Mbps up/down. As I roam around tomorrow I'll do some additional speed tests and see how it performs.
Update: I ran a few speed tests this morning, I was seeing download speeds up to 75 Mbps, and Uploads up to 30 Mbps on the T-Mobile sim.
SovRoxx said:
Hey whats up! Surprised not more people talking about the release. Samsung is selling the Verizon LTE version. Can I buy this version now and use it with Criketwireless (they use att network) or other? Or we don't know yet? I am not sure how all that works. Thanks
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I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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Hey GradyNYC!
I had initially wanted a 256GB LTE version until I saw that Verizon only had 64GB. I didn't realize they existed. Would you mind letting me know who you ordered from and how much customs duty you paid?
Thanks!
gradynyc said:
I wouldn't even consider buying a verizon version when the Korean model has LTE, 6gb ram, 256gb storage, phone capability, and is world unlocked with no bloatware. I bought one and it's the best thing since sliced bread! ebay is selling them like hot cakes. Be careful to only get the non cell provider version, you don't want korean bloatware either. It exists! https://www.samsung.com/sec/tablets/galaxy-tabs4-t835/SM-T835NZKNKOO/
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Wow cool! Yea I been using the 64gig for 14 days now. Wish I knew about this one! How much can you get it for all said and done?
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Wow cool! Yea I been using the 64gig for 14 days now. Wish I knew about this one! How much can you get it for all said and done?
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It's about a grand. They are going for $960 or so, then shipping. If you figure getting 64G LTE for About $750 in the US and the 256G WiFi version is $100 more than the 64G WiFI version, then you come to $850. The Korean versions have 6G RAM, so really, the price difference isn't out of the realm of reality. It is pricey to begin with. I'm figuring the added costs might be offset for me by the increased internal storage and memory benefits.
KazimierzW said:
It's about a grand. They are going for $960 or so, then shipping. If you figure getting 64G LTE for About $750 in the US and the 256G WiFi version is $100 more than the 64G WiFI version, then you come to $850. The Korean versions have 6G RAM, so really, the price difference isn't out of the realm of reality. It is pricey to begin with. I'm figuring the added costs might be offset for me by the increased internal storage and memory benefits.
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I tried the s4 64gb wifi version for 2 weeks and I had minor performance complaints and I had to weigh in if I was being too picky or not. I haven't had a tablet in years and kind of expected it to respond super snappy like my s7 edge. It doesn't ! Example, you don't have issues with this website even on the s4 with the menus and such? I think there is a small delay as the s4 needs time to load? sometimes? compared. I also sense s4 doesn't respond to super touch sensitivity compared to a cell phone?
I'd like a review between the 4 and 6gb model.
Yorgo1982 said:
hello i'm in canada and planning to get the verizon version . but do it has the dial pad as the international and if yes have you tried to change the csc to remove verizon bloatware?
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It does not have any dial pad. I think you're asking if it has the voice radios to use like a regular cellphone. I would guess NO as I've never seen that on a US model since the original Galaxy Tab (7inch), and that one required root and updated modem drivers to work.
For international. I've not seen it since the Tab S2. (Though the post above mentions that the Korean version does, pictures do not have earpiece speaker though)
As for bloatware, it is pretty light on bloat. Honestly, more Samsung bloat than Verizon bloat. I didn't csc, but I did promptly disable the MyVerizon app, Verizon security & privacy, samsung email & cloud, google gmail (I use google inbox).
I have never had the 4gb version, only the 6gb version. I do however have the note9 and the 6gb version tablet. They are at the very least equal in speed. I love the tablet and see no lag whatsoever. If I knew what i know now, I would have only bought the tablet. There are practical applications for the phone only; like size, but phone calls are crisp (tmobile) on the tablet. I have not taken it out of the keyboard case since day one. I have a pretty powerful windows computer with 16gb of ram and it has not been getting any use since I took this tablet out of the box. Everyone in my house is trying to get their hands on it. I bought a bluetooth mouse. It is a computer now, and a very fast one. If i hadn't turned in my note5 and tied to 2 years of credits. I would sell the note 9.
Hi all,
I have in my hands an unopened G960F/DS. I was considering this phone to replace an old model, it's long due. I thought I did my homework and was able to determine this phone worked on Verizon in the US, but a serious note on the box and further research suggests I may have been wrong. Although it would be nice to have new hardware, I am replacing the old one almost entirely out of a desire to flash a custom ROM on it. I was under the impression the lack of CDMA support wasn't a big issue given that Verizon (and everyone else) is phasing out CDMA and the phone still had LTE. Thus my choice of the F/DS. I am informed that opening the box and returning the phone will incur a charge, while keeping the box sealed and returning it will not. I am trying to decide to continue forward and test on Verizon's network here in the US or just return the thing, the choice lies in compatibility with this network. So now I get to play a guessing game.
I find myself in 4G LTE areas most of the time. I want to use data and make voice calls.
This 2-post thread suggests not much can be done:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/sm-g960f-verizon-network-t3856443
This guy demonstrating slower speeds, which I'm not too concerned about, but also HSPA+ in an area he usually gets LTE. In the video description he says after applying a software update it works 'fine':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkNXCK2iVO8
This site lists some band compatibility but doesn't say anything about not being able to use it with Verizon:
https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/verizon/samsung-galaxy-s9
This site also lists band compatibility but warns about Verizon's strict device policy:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...e-samsung-star/verizon-wireless-united-states
Is there any hope to use an unlocked S9 on Verizon in the US? I see this going one of several ways: 1) Everyone works out and I can make calls and use data and there are no issues and rainbows and unicorns 2) Data in certain places, no voice because something something "VoLTE" 3) Absolutely no data/voice whatsoever 4) I switch carriers I return this piece of junk and buy a phone that works. (might coincide with 2/3)
If I end up with (4), how can I avoid this issue in the future? I spent some considerable time deciding on this model, which has the features I want and an unlockable bootloader. Will the S10 have this issue? What about the Note 9? I apologize for the noobposting, and if I missed a thread that answered this question. Thanks for any help you can provide, I sincerely appreciate it.
Edit: This thread asks a similar question but isn't specific and neither are the answers:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S9/Unlocked-galaxy-S9-on-Verizon/td-p/277493
I have been using a G965f/ds on Verizon Wireless.
VoLTE, vowifi, text, and data work after rooting.
Having done a speed test with a U device and on the g965f/ds, the speed I can receive seems equal.
I haven't had issues with making LTE calls in my area.
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I have been using a G965f/ds on Verizon Wireless.
VoLTE, vowifi, text, and data work after rooting.
Having done a speed test with a U device and on the g965f/ds, the speed I can receive seems equal.
I haven't had issues with making LTE calls in my area.
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Thanks for the feedback. Are you based in the US? How did you activate the phone? I found instructions on LTE activation here:
www . verizonwireless . com/businessportals/support/how_to_use/activate_4g_lte.html
And an IMEI checker, which fails when I enter what I find on the box my phone is in:
www . verizonwireless . com/od/prepaid/bring-your-own-device/#/checkDevice
Edit: It also looks like they have a second page that checks IMEI (this also fails for me). Can you tell me what either of these pages say when you enter your IMEI?
www . verizonwireless . com/onedp/byod#/
I reside in the US.
The imei of my g965d/fs failed when inputted in to their system;however, the SIM is all that's needed for Verizon wireless to work on it. Initially, though, you might need to insert the SIM card into another imei Verizon wireless compatible device only to allow the system to have that imei in the system for your number. Since, you already have vzw, I'm assuming you already are activated on it with a device, so moving sims is the next step.
Thanks for your input. Anyone else have experience with this device on Verizon's network?
I could have written this exact post.
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Thanks for your input. Anyone else have experience with this device on Verizon's network?
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I am trying to do the same thing with the same model Note 9, SM-N960F/DS. I was told by Verizon Level 2 tech rep that simply installing an activated SIM would make the phone work, obviously 4gLTE only since there are no CDMA bands. He checked the 4 bands Verizon uses for their 4gLTE and the F/DS model has all 4 of them.
I am in the same boat as you though. IF I try it and it doesn't work I have to return and lose $125 or switch to GSM network (AT&T or TMO) I am also trying to decide whether to take the gamble. This Level 2 Tech guy didn't mention anything about having to root the phone.
I would also like to know about the advisability of attempting this. I thought I read somewhere that this phone won't have any warranty in US anyway but I am not 100% sure about that. Sellers seem to want to gloss over that issue.
I'm very very interested in this
to put this to bed, you cant use any F galaxy phone on verizon and get full usage. vzw is a CDMA based carrier whereby voice is transmitted primarily via CDMA and data over GSM (which includes voLTE, obviously). The F model do not have CDMA radios in them. You CAN get data to work and therefore voLTE as long as you can flash the vzw CSC to get the phone to install the voLTE app. Long story short, dont try it. Its a fruitless endeavor. I mean, do what you want, i guess, but dont expect for the F to work well, or at all on vzw. There is nothing anybody on xda or anywhere can do to alleviate that.
I had straight talk using Verizon towers on note 8, my note 8 broke, I missed flashing custom ROMs, I bought a note 9 n960f, read online it would work too. I inserted sim. Did not get data or calls. Flashed custom ROMs found a lineage is rom that worked with data for like 2 min then quit. I kept Singapore rom csc stock radios I guess from Singapore, guy on here said he flashed Singapore stock Odin flash and ended up making his work but didn't work with my straight talk Verizon sim. My buddy came over and he uses visible network on Verizon towers we popped in his sim and it worked flawlessly on stock Singapore csc/flashed custom rom from xda. I switched, it's cheaper, it works and first month was 5$ no fee to transfer my number over. Visible is great, join a group and it's 25$ a month.