I'm currently running PA 3.6 and the AK Diamond kernel. 99% of the time, everything works fine, however when I start running Puzzle & Dragons, the phone gets really hot and more often than not will reboot before I finish playing. I have also tried using the AK Kubo (stable) kernel, and it does the same. I'm kind of a noob so I don't tweak the kernel settings very much, and I don't really know how to go about fixing this. One thing to note is that on the stock PA 3.6 kernel the phone still gets really hot but it won't reboot. I'd like to keep using the AK kernel as it makes my phone run really smoothly but I would also like to try and fix this problem.
The sole common point to that whole story is Puzzle and Dragons.
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beekay201 said:
The sole common point to that whole story is Puzzle and Dragons.
a manta wrote this.
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Are you saying that AK kernel and P&D just don't get along? Because although it gets hot, on PA 3.6 with its stock kernel it won't forcibly reboot my phone like it does with AK. I've found a temporary workaround which is to switch the governor to powersave while playing...but that doesn't really fix the issue...
AkutsuX said:
Are you saying that AK kernel and P&D just don't get along? Because although it gets hot, on PA 3.6 with its stock kernel it won't forcibly reboot my phone like it does with AK. I've found a temporary workaround which is to switch the governor to powersave while playing...but that doesn't really fix the issue...
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No, it's just the kernel that doesn't "like" your cpu.
beekay201 said:
No, it's just the kernel that doesn't "like" your cpu.
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Sorry I'm kind of a noob but...is my cpu not like other Nexuses? Why would it have a problem with mine in particular?
AkutsuX said:
Sorry I'm kind of a noob but...is my cpu not like other Nexuses? Why would it have a problem with mine in particular?
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lol
there's this thing called quality of the components used; the chinese can make the best and the worst.
every chip handles the tasks that are required of them yes, but that's why you see devices that can OC to 1.6, 1.7 even 1.8ghz stable, or UV like a boss, and others that can't handle even 1.6ghz oc or huge UVs.
for example, mine can UV like a boss, but not so good at OC'ing.
thermal throttling of the cpu might be more agressive with some kernels.
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Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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I do not experience this issue. When you flashed the rom, did you do a clean install? Have you formatting the device?
Yup.. I format everything.. I use the touch recovery and just use every option that it provides and wipe everything.. It even does it when there is nothing installed. I usually delete almost all the useless system apps that I don't use like the google music app and all of the ones civato provides... I even change the animation settings to .5 in the developer section.. should I turn them off all together?
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Yup.. I format everything.. I use the touch recovery and just use every option that it provides and wipe everything.. It even does it when there is nothing installed. I usually delete almost all the useless system apps that I don't use like the google music app and all of the ones civato provides... I even change the animation settings to .5 in the developer section.. should I turn them off all together?
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The animations should not have anything to do with it. Does this only occur on that rom? Have you tried other roms and experienced that issue?
not many other roms out there.. I have used stock and his.. had the same issue on both.. Also happens on my brother's a500.. it usually happens when unlocking and going into any app.. it sits there for a few seconds and then opens whatever it is i opened
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not many other roms out there.. I have used stock and his.. had the same issue on both.. Also happens on my brother's a500.. it usually happens when unlocking and going into any app.. it sits there for a few seconds and then opens whatever it is i opened
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This is starting to sound like a hardware issue. Before that is concluded, you could:
- Make sure the governor is not set to "conservative"
- Try a clean install of CM9
If the problem still arises, its most likely a hardware issue.
I'm using the OC kernel and have it to 1500.. I also always leave it on performance.. I figure it would kill my battery life but I don't use it much.. and i tried cm9 also.. too many issues as of right now
Crimson Ghoul said:
I'm using the OC kernel and have it to 1500.. I also always leave it on performance.. I figure it would kill my battery life but I don't use it much.. and i tried cm9 also.. too many issues as of right now
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It doesn't seem it can be anything else but a hardware issue in that case.
NB. Overclocking to a high frequency can cause instability and bring about that issue (but since you experienced it on the stock rom, its quite likely not to be that).
the overclocking helps to speed it up a tad bit.. for the most part it just lags.. i did a clean install just now
Thought I would jump in. Stock ics would slow down and lag on me, jittery transitions poor performance in games or movies, but it took an hour not a few minutes. However testing the T20 kernel before the release kernel had that exact issue, bogging and lagging within minutes.
His release kernel doesnt do it, and flex extreme as well as my cm9 builds don't, even with T20 kernel. Consider flashing that kernel to see what happens.
Side note...what issues did you have with cm9? And what release? My build 1 has been running for 3 days no reboots stable as can be undervolted and OC when needed. Something to maybe think to try to see if it persists. T20 kernel works fine with it too.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
Crimson Ghoul said:
Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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Yup, EVERYTIME I turned on my screen then unlocked it to laggggggg for a lil while. I'm now using CM9 n that issues gone. Try CM9
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705554
A100 Running CM9 Nightly ROM n ezT20 OC Kernel :-D
To prevent the lagg after unlock, I set the governor to ondemand and the minimum frequency to 312.
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To prevent the lagg after unlock, I set the governor to ondemand and the minimum frequency to 312.
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That reminds me...setting a screen off profile with the same min/Max speed can cause issues with that, give Max a notch or two higher. And don't have it change the governor leave it the same. So like interactive screen on Myst nit be conservative screen off, doesn't work that way.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
I had the same issue on stock. I noticed there are 2 weather applications installed (version 1 and version 2) immediately after I disabled the old weather application (version 1) this stopped happening. I used the ICS GUI to do the disable.
This might not be the case in custom rom, but is true for stock. Post reply and let me know if this fixed it for you also.
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Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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Do you have a micro SD card plugged in? Try reformatting the card with a computer. Worked for me.
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I felt the need to add my two cents in this....this has been happening to me for the longest with the flex reaper rom ONLY. I've used stock and ZN's rom and those did not lag after unlock...only flex reaper. I'm currently using flex reaper and still experience it from time to time but doesn't destroy my day at all...
Give the CM9 nightly ROM's a go. No Bluetooth n no HDMI audio, but everything else is fine n damn smooth. Those issues will be fixed though
A100 Running CM9 Nightly ROM n ezT20 OC Kernel :-D
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To prevent the lagg after unlock, I set the governor to ondemand and the minimum frequency to 312.
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I installed Flex 100 Reaper with stock and it it seemed to run smooth enough. Then I installed the OC kernal, and started to get lag. I was looking around to find the OC settings, but can't see it anywhere in settings..
Can anyone direct me to where can I adjust the governor/max/min CPU settings?
Sorry for the noob question.
htc_softbank said:
I installed Flex 100 Reaper with the OC kernal, and started to get lag. I was looking around to find the OC settings, but can't see it anywhere in settings..
Can anyone direct me to where can I adjust the governor/max/min CPU settings?
Sorry for the noob question.
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Setcpu from the play store.
The overclock settings are not integrated like CM.
Hi all,
Today I installed CWM and flashed franco's kernel for JB (the newest one). At first it seemed pretty fast so I was happy. I decided to install setcpu and set it to max 1,8 ghz with set on boot enabled (I know it was stupid, but I did not realize it at the time). After rebooting the phone froze and a purple layer appeared on top of my screen. Seconds later my phone rebooted. I set setcpu on 1,2 ghz max and let it stresstest for a couple of minutes. No errors were found. But now my phone lags sometimes, like if project butter just had disappeared and the normal android sluggishness has reappeared. Is this a kernelissue or did I damage my cpu with this stupid overclock? Btw, apart from the sluggishness in the animations I can run everything just fine.
I'm on Franco and have no problems. Why don't you try another kernel and let us know how it goes?
tobitronics said:
Hi all,
Today I installed CWM and flashed franco's kernel for JB (the newest one). At first it seemed pretty fast so I was happy. I decided to install setcpu and set it to max 1,8 ghz with set on boot enabled (I know it was stupid, but I did not realize it at the time). After rebooting the phone froze and a purple layer appeared on top of my screen. Seconds later my phone rebooted. I set setcpu on 1,2 ghz max and let it stresstest for a couple of minutes. No errors were found. But now my phone lags sometimes, like if project butter just had disappeared and the normal android sluggishness has reappeared. Is this a kernelissue or did I damage my cpu with this stupid overclock? Btw, apart from the sluggishness in the animations I can run everything just fine.
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I understand people want to ask questions first, did you try to wipe and reflash?
At most I can probably assure you, you didn't damage your CPU.. there would probably be more dire issues if it was.
Did you flash a new kernel yet?
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Not yet. Should I reflash franco or try another? Can I flash a new kernel over another kernel without wiping my whole device?
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Not yet. Should I reflash franco or try another? Can I flash a new kernel over another kernel without wiping my whole device?
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Wipe dalvik cache and install trinity.
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tobitronics said:
Not yet. Should I reflash franco or try another? Can I flash a new kernel over another kernel without wiping my whole device?
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Yes, I've flashed 3-4 kernels on one ROM. You can dirty flash your ROM too or completely wipe and flash.
Either way its fine. I do suggest wiping and flashing though..
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And should I uninstall SetCPU in order to get stock CPU speeds? And what issues would I have if I would have fried my SoC?
tobitronics said:
And should I uninstall SetCPU in order to get stock CPU speeds? And what issues would I have if I would have fried my SoC?
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Setcpu is fine. In order to get stock, either use a new kernel or dirty flash.
Assuming.. if it was I'd guess the phone probably wouldn't be running?
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You need to learn about what you're doing before you do it!
I flashed the trinity 1420-537 JB stable kernel, and everything works as smooth as it has to be. The strange thing is that it was a bit sluggish until I changed my wallpaper from a live to a normal one. Now I switched back and everything is still smooth :? . Anyway, does this kernel overclock the cpu itself or are the speeds in the name just the available range?
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You need to learn about what you're doing before you do it!
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tobitronics said:
I flashed the trinity 1420-537 JB stable kernel, and everything works as smooth as it has to be. The strange thing is that it was a bit sluggish until I changed my wallpaper from a live to a normal one. Now I switched back and everything is still smooth :? . Anyway, does this kernel overclock the cpu itself or are the speeds in the name just the available range?
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if I have such issues I will never flash an oc kernel to look if everthing is working. Install stock rom kernel back and try. If everything is fine......you can try an oc one.
On Trinity; first number is MAX CPU clock range you can chose and second number is fix GPU clock.....or just reading FAQ, Changelog etc. will answer your questions really quick
regards,
Lars
from what I've heard, some gnexs are really picky with roms and kernels. I guess your phone is one of them. I personally had problems with Trinity Kernel, since when I reboot, it sometimes bootloops for 5minutes and such. I personally had no problems with Franco though. In fact, I use Franco as my daily driver
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Franco's app let's you easily tweak the settings (overclock, change governors, etc.) which may help the sluggishness. I almost exclusively run Franco and his M5 is amazing!
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A reflash might be the best option ... either the ROM or Kernel or Both lol thats my inner crack flasher talkin'
Never had problems with franco. It's trinity's kernel that made problems for me.
I run Franco's kernel myself. Just have to be careful with flashing the nightlies, it can be hit or miss. They are experimental.
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CHANGE YOUR GOVERNOR HURR DURR.
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Today I reflashed franco and I must say that trinity is way better, at least for me. Franco keeps being sluggish, trinity works smooth.
trinity is better than Franco's in every way possible...
especially battery life
Well i'm having issues with this phone. it's getting hot when browsing and even facebook, like 60+ Degrees. Games get even hotter. but it's getting real cold quickly. And getting hot means Drains battery real quick. i get -10% of battery by playing a game for like, 5-10 mins.
is this an issue on 4.2.2? Because i haven't got this issue since i got into 4.2.2
i'm currently on Paranoid android 3.50 and fancy kernel r24. no extra settings.
Baseband is UGLL1 if that's necessary.
This is my first thread btw. i'm sorry if there's some mistakes or something if there's another info you need tell me .
change your kernel/kernel settings.
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change your kernel/kernel settings.
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uh... what exactly i need to change?
Download Trickster Kernel Tweaker with AK Kernel and undervolt the MPU by -85MV
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigeyes0x0.trickstermod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883298
http://d-h.st/7eq
Lol, your phone might not be able to handle -85 voltage of MPU, try to be on the safe side to avoid restarts start with low values like -25
freakb18c1 said:
Download Trickster Kernel Tweaker with AK Kernel and undervolt the MPU by -85MV
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigeyes0x0.trickstermod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883298
http://d-h.st/7eq
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Lol, your phone might not be able to handle -85 voltage of MPU, try to be on the safe side to avoid restarts start with low values like -25
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Thanks guys, i'll try.
Current settings:
Kernel: 3.4.94-QuantumKernel-6/17
Rom: Carbon-kk-nightly-20140617-0002
Freqs range: 384MHz - 1512MHz
Governor: interactiveX
and before this rom and kernel install I was running Liquid smooth and it's kernel, Deathly. I've done several clean flashes of both Roms and just recently did a dirty flash of the QuantumKernel again.
So it's an odd situation, because everything runs great at first. Navigating through settings and everyday apps seem great, the cpu correctly runs at the rate it should. But as soon as I launch Clash of Clans, the phone just drops to 384MHz and everything from then on just crawls. Sometimes it will run fine for 30 seconds or so but then just goes back to 384 on both cores constantly. I've tried installing and using kernel tweaker and overriding some settings. superuser notifications make it seem like there are actual changes being made but then it eventually ignores all tweaks I've made and goes back to running at 384. Had this problem with Liquid smooth last week and posted, no replies. So I found Carbon and a recommended kernel in the designated thread and eventually fell into the same situation. I know there are certain triggers where the GPU overrides the cpu clock speeds, maybe it's something with that since it seems to be triggered from Clash of Clans which is a huge cpu hog. I don't know. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
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Current settings:
Kernel: 3.4.94-QuantumKernel-6/17
Rom: Carbon-kk-nightly-20140617-0002
Freqs range: 384MHz - 1512MHz
Governor: interactiveX
and before this rom and kernel install I was running Liquid smooth and it's kernel, Deathly. I've done several clean flashes of both Roms and just recently did a dirty flash of the QuantumKernel again.
So it's an odd situation, because everything runs great at first. Navigating through settings and everyday apps seem great, the cpu correctly runs at the rate it should. But as soon as I launch Clash of Clans, the phone just drops to 384MHz and everything from then on just crawls. Sometimes it will run fine for 30 seconds or so but then just goes back to 384 on both cores constantly. I've tried installing and using kernel tweaker and overriding some settings. superuser notifications make it seem like there are actual changes being made but then it eventually ignores all tweaks I've made and goes back to running at 384. Had this problem with Liquid smooth last week and posted, no replies. So I found Carbon and a recommended kernel in the designated thread and eventually fell into the same situation. I know there are certain triggers where the GPU overrides the cpu clock speeds, maybe it's something with that since it seems to be triggered from Clash of Clans which is a huge cpu hog. I don't know. Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm not so sure why that happens but I would suggest you try KT747. I've been using his kernel for quite some time now and have no issue with CoC.
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I'm not so sure why that happens but I would suggest you try KT747. I've been using his kernel for quite some time now and have no issue with CoC.
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Thanks for responding! Just flashed this kernel and so far so good. Though I'm confident it'll stay that way. This kernel is amazing! So many options to consider tweaking but then not mess with in fear I'll break my phone. lol But seriously thanks, this is working great!
Gil Prefect said:
Thanks for responding! Just flashed this kernel and so far so good. Though I'm confident it'll stay that way. This kernel is amazing! So many options to consider tweaking but then not mess with in fear I'll break my phone. lol But seriously thanks, this is working great!
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My pleasure, glad it worked out!
If you wanna make some tweaking, look at the scripts/profiles. There is a nice directory full of premade by users (as well as one from KT himself)!
I have a S4 mini running custom carbon kk unofficial 4.4.3 as it comes with the settings to set CPU's and governors but the phone keeps changing the min to around 1400 but the max stays at 1700.i don't notice until my battery is draining really fast or gets hot. anyone kno a fix to this?
matizkool said:
I have a S4 mini running custom carbon kk unofficial 4.4.3 as it comes with the settings to set CPU's and governors but the phone keeps changing the min to around 1400 but the max stays at 1700.i don't notice until my battery is draining really fast or gets hot. anyone kno a fix to this?
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Which governor is it using to set a min of 1400? Ever likely it gets hot and eats power! I use f4k's kernel, and the 'Performance Control' app to look at and alter stuff - you don't say what you use or have tried.
There is a Carbon 4.4.4 available with f4ktion 1.5 kernel - might be an idea to flash that and the problem might go away!
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Which governor is it using to set a min of 1400? Ever likely it gets hot and eats power! I use f4k's kernel, and the 'Performance Control' app to look at and alter stuff - you don't say what you use or have tried.
There is a Carbon 4.4.4 available with f4ktion 1.5 kernel - might be an idea to flash that and the problem might go away!
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It's on every governor this happens but I use Wheatley. I would manually set it to around the 300s but in a couple of hours it would auto set at 1400 on its on. This causes my battery to drain my kernel version is 3.4.91 f4ktion 1.4.5 eur lte
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It's on every governor this happens but I use Wheatley. I would manually set it to around the 300s but in a couple of hours it would auto set at 1400 on its on. This causes my battery to drain
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Strangely enough I've settled with Wheatley too! but it spends most of its time at 162 when not in deep sleep (a bit like me!). This really needs posting in the Carbon thread so I would post a few more things here to help or comment on stuff to get to 10 posts and then ask in there. I can't think what could be causing that behaviour, if it was me it would be bye bye 4.4.3 and hello 4.4.4
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Strangely enough I've settled with Wheatley too! but it spends most of its time at 162 when not in deep sleep (a bit like me!). This really needs posting in the Carbon thread so I would post a few more things here to help or comment on stuff to get to 10 posts and then ask in there. I can't think what could be causing that behaviour, if it was me it would be bye bye 4.4.3 and hello 4.4.4
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Yeah i flashed to 4.4.4 thanks though
Never mind above still happens even though I flashed 4.4.4
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Never mind above still happens even though I flashed 4.4.4
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Does the actual minimum change rather than it simply running continually at 1400+ and if so which governor does it change to if any!
I read somewhere in the Carbon thread someone was having similar problems so they flashed the kernel twice, one directly after the other; seems something wasn't getting written correctly the first time but was the second, and the problem went away. Worth a go...
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Does the actual minimum change rather than it simply running continually at 1400+ and if so which governor does it change to if any!
I read somewhere in the Carbon thread someone was having similar problems so they flashed the kernel twice, one directly after the other; seems something wasn't getting written correctly the first time but was the second, and the problem went away. Worth a go...
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I found this : Q: CPU/GPU frequency doesn't stick?
A: If your frequency settings don’t stick, it's because on certain Qualcomm or JB and higher devices, there are certain system services (thermald/mpdecision/project butter) or kernel feature that rewrite frequency settings based on current thermal status and/or touch input. Certain custom kernels for your device should include work around for these issues.
Is this a fix?
matizkool said:
I found this : Q: CPU/GPU frequency doesn't stick?
A: If your frequency settings don’t stick, it's because on certain Qualcomm or JB and higher devices, there are certain system services (thermald/mpdecision/project butter) or kernel feature that rewrite frequency settings based on current thermal status and/or touch input. Certain custom kernels for your device should include work around for these issues.
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It could help. Trickster is good. However, this suggests that there is something else causing or forcing the frequency setting to be changed. The question is what? and I've no idea:crying:
Haha I found the problem it was either this battery saver app or I changed to scheduler to anything besides row
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Haha I found the problem it was either this battery saver app or I changed to scheduler to anything besides row
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Thats good. It was probably the battery saver because they usually do the opposite!