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T-Mobile Data Speed Cap Question

I have the mytouch and T mobile with unlimitied data plan..Today I wake up do a data wipe install cm7 and when it goes to download the gapps apps from the market it takes forever..I waited 35 minutes for it to download gmail and google maps..I stop the other downloads and try to figure why my apps are downloading slow and why my internet is snail slow..while wondering I get a text message from T mobile telling me I have used to much bandwith for the month cycle and I will have a data speed cap till next cycle....This would be alright but it is not as I can no longer download any market apps ( I can but it takes 30 minutes to an hour )Nor Can I really surf the web.(Took me 25 minutes to get here)Pandora nor slacker work anymore either.
Has anyone else had this happen to them ? Also is there anything I can do to get them to uncap my service..I have been a T mobile Customer for 11 years and think they should do something.Just wondering if anyone else had this problem......
Thanks

I've never had that problem, but then again my max DL per month has been at 1-2GB tops..
Try calling them, but check your bill first to see what they have you clocked at so far for the current billing period... I think they don't impose that on you till you hit +5GB... Good Luck.

I get that all the time, well not this past month because I finally got internet at the house lol. I used it for tethering and alot of internet & email & I would always seem to get it with 2 or less weeks left. I guess it's once you go over 5gb t-mobile slows you down.

I haven't actually had it happen YET, but when I went on the website, I noticed it said I was approaching the data cap... Never saw that before. D;

Thanks..I looked and I am at 5.09gb ..Looks like I am slowed till the 23rd..I dont tether so it must have been from slacker / pandora ..I will have to watch it more next month..

You can download t-mobile's 'my account' app from the market so you can keep a closer eye on your data usage, although, if you have unlimited data plan you can't set an alert for it, even though 5gb is the cap...

I get close to 3-4gb every month and never notice a slow down...I can understand a cap of 5gb to keep the network from being overloaded...I thether and use it to watch HULU and nightly roms so cant see going over,unless something crazy.

... Doesn't make sense.. I'm paying $30/month for "unlimited"... just to get capped?

it does make sense.. u "read" it and signed it. its all in the contract so yes the data is unlimited but once 5gigs is reached in one billing cycle its cap'd to run 2g/edge until the cycle refreshes. it use to be 10gig max but with the recent explosion of smart/data phones the demand for bandwidth and speed are at an all time high. i also learned this the hardway.. now i use wifi anywhere i can to limit my data usage. but even then its still hits 4gigs a month. its mainly a problem for us that use our phones as primary internet.

Use wifi as much as possible. I am fortunate enough to have wifi at work and home and my data usage on tmo's network is ridiculously low for the amount of data I use.
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Wagedroid said:
it does make sense.. u "read" it and signed it. its all in the contract so yes the data is unlimited but once 5gigs is reached in one billing cycle its cap'd to run 2g/edge until the cycle refreshes. it use to be 10gig max but with the recent explosion of smart/data phones the demand for bandwidth and speed are at an all time high. i also learned this the hardway.. now i use wifi anywhere i can to limit my data usage. but even then its still hits 4gigs a month. its mainly a problem for us that use our phones as primary internet.
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No,
it does not make sense to people that signed an unlimited data plan in 2009, the changes for data cap were made on the new contract July 18, 2010. I know that Tmobile reserves the right to make changes, but they also state that they are suppose to give a 30 day notice. Did anyone receive such notice in data changes? I don't think so. You all can say well is insane to spend more than 5gb of data, but you have to understand that many people use their phone a lot and id their right to be upset when they signed an "UNLIMITED" plan and then is changed without prior notice.

also be aware that T Mobile slows you down to 54kbs. Welcime back Dial Up!!!

laramir21 said:
No,
it does not make sense to people that signed an unlimited data plan in 2009, the changes for data cap were made on the new contract July 18, 2010. I know that Tmobile reserves the right to make changes, but they also state that they are suppose to give a 30 day notice. Did anyone receive such notice in data changes? I don't think so. You all can say well is insane to spend more than 5gb of data, but you have to understand that many people use their phone a lot and id their right to be upset when they signed an "UNLIMITED" plan and then is changed without prior notice.
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like i said, technicaly they dont make it not unlimited.. they just cap the speed, so yes it does make sense.. u signed up for unlimited data not unlimited data at its peak speed, that just sounds retarded. if you signed up before the change then you shouldve requested to be grandfatherd and they wouldve been happy to keep the customer happy. and fyi a news letter and disclaimer was put out for all pre existing customers before the change was made. and even then they didnt change the unlimited part. ill leave this the way i leave any other service provider discussion...., ive been with tmob since sidekick original no color.. not once did they treat me wrong or charge me for something i wasnt responsible for and aware of. i dont recommend but there is an alternative.. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and even Metro all got u covered.
good day.

I think it ok to note that this is not only a T-Mobile thing, every carrier does this. I know that there is a hack on XDA that is built into the MIUI roms that actually cuts off the signal that your phone sends to Verizon that you have reached the cap so you never see your data slowed down. I do not know how they wrote the hack or if it is possible to do something similar with a t-mobile phone, but it might be worth looking into.

amart6116 said:
... Doesn't make sense.. I'm paying $30/month for "unlimited"... just to get capped?
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you are paying for unlimited data because you get unlimited data - they just don't guarantee at what speed you'll be able to download at...

I completely understand your predicament! I was in your same shoes.
T-Mobile does not charge extra for anything more than 5gb, but they do make you eat your buffet food through a straw! Now, I remedied my problem with the wonderful program 3g Watchdog, which is free. Set it to your monthly cycle, and you can even place a widget with usage on your screen. Very handy little program.
So yes, I tried calling and talking with the reps, nothing will work. I spoke with managers, and people from India. They can't do anything about it. I couldn't even pay them more money! How ridiculous! But alas, I had to see the bright side. Looking at AT&T or Verizon, you have limits of 2gb or so and then they charge you for anything over that. Screw that! So I figured if I'm downloading 5gb of data in a month, then I need to get my ass together and make my life work for me. So please figure out your **** lol, you'll feel so much better when you do.
Tyler

laramir21 said:
No,
it does not make sense to people that signed an unlimited data plan in 2009, the changes for data cap were made on the new contract July 18, 2010. I know that Tmobile reserves the right to make changes, but they also state that they are suppose to give a 30 day notice. Did anyone receive such notice in data changes? I don't think so. You all can say well is insane to spend more than 5gb of data, but you have to understand that many people use their phone a lot and id their right to be upset when they signed an "UNLIMITED" plan and then is changed without prior notice.
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That ssssssssssucks!
I went to T-mobile store last week to pay my bill, the man told me about the upgrade discount after a year, when we reached the 4G topic I asked about this slow down of speed after 5Gb and he was like he had no idea, he repeated "Noou, it's unlimited" "that what you heard is for those with plans of certain data limit"
I told him that's what it should be, I said it wouldn't make sense to have such high-speed and still be limited :S
Serously! I'm paying $-freaking-30 monthly for internet access that is like 1mb of speed on this lil' phone, same as it would be using a DSL, why would they put a limit?
Tmo-guy- Because it's a wireless service-
Me: My ass! that ain't no reason!
Again makes no sense....
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Its people like you who make the system slow for everyone. Why do you think att is so ****ty? Its because too many people are using their iphone for everything. Simple supply and demand. Tethering should be used as needed when no other internet service is avalible. I for one like the cap and I welcome it to a charging alternative. Its like any other provider. If you get greedy you should get punnished.
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Digitaldreamer7 said:
Its people like you who make the system slow for everyone. Why do you think att is so ****ty? Its because too many people are using their iphone for everything. Simple supply and demand. Tethering should be used as needed when no other internet service is avalible. I for one like the cap and I welcome it to a charging alternative. Its like any other provider. If you get greedy you should get punnished.
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Why should there be such capabilities offered if that's going to bring out risky complications to the system?
That's not reason to call one greety and 'punish'
Is not like one would like to reach a cap just because it can be done and bother other's connections.
Tethering is not as different as using your phone, since our smartphones' web browser is as fully capable as a computer web browser.
Also think of the 4G + What's next??
If one service imprubes why not the others that can prevent issues from the same.
A page loads trice as fast, makes the user able to go on where others would stop, so you see it's not a malicious intention but what the user is led up to.
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I hit the cap every month around the 15th...bill cycle on the 25th.. But I use a ton of data due to I show photos and deal with contracts that I am unable to dl at work.

Tethering on Boost Mobile?

Any idea how much data I can use while tethering my Evo 4g on Boost Mobile? I don't want to get kicked out of my cheap plan, but on Sprint I used at least 10GB per month. So I was thinking maybe 5GB/month, you think that's ok?

Not sure, that all depends on how much your plan is set up for.

The unlimited everything plan for $50 that goes down $5 every 6 months is the one I have.

Tread carefully with a well thought out explanation for excessive data use.
I guess it would really come down to the which phone is attached to your plan.

I never had a problem and I been doing it for 4 months now. If anything I notice drop in speeds.
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zte warp 4g tethering
hey guys!
anyone knows how to tether from a zte warp 4G
please help since theres not a lot about that phone

Can I tether ATT without rooting?

Is there any way to enable tethering (without tethering plan) on an ATT S3 without rooting?
Thanks,
Jack

Nope
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jackryan57 said:
Is there any way to enable tethering (without tethering plan) on an ATT S3 without rooting?
Thanks,
Jack
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27718633
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Yes download the app FoxFi
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If you are on AT&T's new mobile data share plans (or if you switch to it) then yes, you can tether for free and it will count against whatever data plan you chose (or choose) with mobile share. I switched my phones over on Thursday. I have a S3, and an iPhone 4s. We went with the 6 gig plan. All plans come with unlimited talk and text to any number, as well as wireless hotspot and tethering (wifi and USB), with no additional setup fees.
Both my phones share the 6 gigs and those gigs can be used however I choose.

txskeets said:
If you are on AT&T's new mobile data share plans (or if you switch to it) then yes, you can tether for free and it will count against whatever data plan you chose (or choose) with mobile share. I switched my phones over on Thursday. I have a S3, and an iPhone 4s. We went with the 6 gig plan. All plans come with unlimited talk and text to any number, as well as wireless hotspot and tethering (wifi and USB), with no additional setup fees.
Both my phones share the 6 gigs and those gigs can be used however I choose.
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I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan so I'm not ready to switch to a shared plan and risk losing unlimited. Thanks for the replies everyone

Foxfi does work on ATT - go here: Foxfi.com/bin download the app and run it. I needed a reboot to get it to work but after that - flawless. Thanks everyone

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I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan so I'm not ready to switch to a shared plan and risk losing unlimited. Thanks for the replies everyone
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... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?

AT&T seems to be REALLY good at knowing when your tethering. I never had the "unlimited" plan on AT&T to begin with (but realistically, it really isnt unlimited anymore anyways), so I was very happy to see the new mobile share plans that allow me to use my tethering as part of the data I'm already paying them for every month.
elementaldragon said:
... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
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... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
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I did not know this. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan through ATT. If I use FoxFi they can see that and force me into a new plan?
Samsung s3

Tlo218 said:
I did not know this. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan through ATT. If I use FoxFi they can see that and force me into a new plan?
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I used to tether on my old phone (iPhone) with ATT and one day I got a text saying basically to stop tethering or they would put me into a capped data plan. I continued tethering until I got another text saying they were moving me into a data plan. I called ATT and was polite and played dumb, the girl said she would remove that "flag" from my account since I called. I stopped tethering at that point. Now I just want to see if it can be done on my S3, I will prolly just go with a data plan at some point and tether properly with ATT

How do they monitor that?
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Tlo218 said:
How do they monitor that?
Samsung s3
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Easy. Tethering forces additional hop. Also data usage when on another tethered device has different characteristics vs. data usage on the device.
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Since your talking about FoxFi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830484

Is tethering allowed on limited data plan?

I have a 3 gigabytes plan. If I do tethering, would at&t give me a hard time? So far my impression is that at&t only cares if it's from an unlimited data plan. Could somebody give me some clue?

Your best bet would be to call and ask only takes a few minutes
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Tethering is included with data bucket plans. They'd of course want you to pay for tethering on your plan which imo is ridiculous, but that's the way it is. With unlimited data plans, tethering from At&t isn't even an option. They won't even let you pay monthly for it without giving up your unlimited plan.

You have to have the 5gb plan or mobile share plan if you wanna tether. You cant call and ask them to let you tether on a 3gb plan. If that was the case att would not have a dedicated tethering plan.
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x2h said:
I have a 3 gigabytes plan. If I do tethering, would at&t give me a hard time? So far my impression is that at&t only cares if it's from an unlimited data plan. Could somebody give me some clue?
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Tethering isn't allowed. Unless ya paying for it!!
But if your on a custom Rom. And it unlocked the tethering portion. Which most Rom's give you tethering capabilities anyhow.
With that being said: If you use it every now & then, and don't use big amounts of data then I'm quite sure they won't even notice you.
I'm on a grandfathered plan and use it, every now & then. When traveling mostly or when I have no internet access..
Just can't b greedy and go playing Xbox Live like I did. Then instantly the next 2 days got a msg from them. Lol
Just my 2¢
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We have a ten gig plan through at&t and I can use the mobile hotspot app to tether. AT&T does not care if I tether and they would like for me to go over my ten gigs so they can charge me extra. They do not allow the folks who are grandfathered into unlimited data because they do not make enough money off of them to allow it. I do not know about the 3 gig plan.

Is there a way to hide your data? I've used ssh tunnel while tethering and I don't think there was a problem.
Xbox doesn't run natively on android phones, however web browsing does

hspa+.. data usage.. tethering.. t.o.s.

So I've been fet'up with getting throttled from Straight talk using my tmobile note2.. good service anda good deal.. but you get what you pay for $45 for unlimited everything with the "asterisk". So I was at a tmobile store in Bellvue, wa. yesterday and after testing the network at least in the store(20mb up and and down!!) I decided since no contract to pay the 25 more this month and give it a shot. And it's good.. I'm in tacoma and average 5mb up and 2mb down. Now.. my question is red flags.. do I need to watch my tethering? For example.. If my comast was out for 5 days and I watched some vudu hdx and netflix hd movies and used multiple gigs or whatever via wifi tether would I need to worry about getting a call from TMO or anything or what? Also I'm using a t889UVALJ1 based rom.. would I be getting better speeds with the UVBMB4 based rom? I can't seem to find any current LTE coverage maps..

tri0xinn said:
So I've been fet'up with getting throttled from Straight talk using my tmobile note2.. good service anda good deal.. but you get what you pay for $45 for unlimited everything with the "asterisk". So I was at a tmobile store in Bellvue, wa. yesterday and after testing the network at least in the store(20mb up and and down!!) I decided since no contract to pay the 25 more this month and give it a shot. And it's good.. I'm in tacoma and average 5mb up and 2mb down. Now.. my question is red flags.. do I need to watch my tethering? For example.. If my comast was out for 5 days and I watched some vudu hdx and netflix hd movies and used multiple gigs or whatever via wifi tether would I need to worry about getting a call from TMO or anything or what? Also I'm using a t889UVALJ1 based rom.. would I be getting better speeds with the UVBMB4 based rom? I can't seem to find any current LTE coverage maps..
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I don't think Tmobile throttles you just for tethering so long as you're within your data cap. when I joined they told me to tether as much as I want.

T-Mobile is going to start additional service w/additional price to 4G Unlimited plan. The additional service is tethering. Tethering data usage will be limited to the tether plan you choose. But the 4G Unlimited plan will stay 4G/LTE unlimited. I don't know when this tethering addition will be available.
I believe that 500meg tether plan will be part of the default pricing plan. If you want more tethering data usage then you have to pay more. Correct me if I am wrong.
At this point no one is providing true high speed unlimited tethering. Basically no cellular provider wants to be a data provider to desktops and laptops.

ok I see.. I knew that the unlimited no throttle 4g plan was 70.. and now that I look at my bill it shows 500mb of tethering included.. I was thinking when you were rooted and using a 3rd party app to tether with they couldn't tell that you were tethering.... is this wrong? they can tell no matter how you tether?

I'm not a tmobile customer...yet, but Sprint can't tell the difference between tethered or untethered data when rooted and using 3rd party.
Sorry to ask off topic question but how much data were you using on Straight Talk? I'm considering giving them a shot.
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ibleedbloo said:
I'm not a tmobile customer...yet, but Sprint can't tell the difference between tethered or untethered data when rooted and using 3rd party.
Sorry to ask off topic question but how much data were you using on Straight Talk? I'm considering giving them a shot.
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My data usage was sporadic.. a few times at first I had streamed a few gigs over a weekend when commuting between Eugene Oregon and Seattle and wasn't getting throttled.. and sometimes I would stream talk radio at school a few hours a day and get throttled. I have some friends that also use straight talk and don't have problems.. one jogs and hour a day listening to pandora or xmradio online and doesn't ever get throttled.. I think if you kept it under a couple hundreds mb's a day you would be fine.. but that one time you stream netflix for a couple hours one day.. or couple days of heavier use and you'll probably get the squeeze. The internet still works but it's 56k slow. And if you get throttled it isn't till your next billing period before it gets reset.. so if it's the 12th of the month and you get hit you won't have full speed till the 1st of the next month.. then your a little paranoid to use it too much.. I had no coverage issues with straight talk and the price is unmatched but unless I'm on a tight budget the $70 uncapped tmobile service will likely be worth the extra 25 bucks a month.

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tri0xinn said:
ok I see.. I knew that the unlimited no throttle 4g plan was 70.. and now that I look at my bill it shows 500mb of tethering included.. I was thinking when you were rooted and using a 3rd party app to tether with they couldn't tell that you were tethering.... is this wrong? they can tell no matter how you tether?
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T-Mobile will be able to tell you are tethering since they read what kind of packets are being sent. Laptops and desktops send a different type of data packet than mobile devices. If you are tethering to another android or ios device you can tether all you want no problem,but a laptop or desktop you will need to use a browser like chrome or firefox and change the user agent to either android or ios. That to me that defeats the purpose because if I wanted to look at mobile version of the web I can just use my phone.
You can use an app called pdanet which will let you USB tether and hide your tether usuage, but some websites might not work.
Another option is to set up a vpn and connet to the internet via vpn. A vpn connection encrypts all data transmission so t-mobile cannot read it so no need to change user agents.
Really I think tethering should be free. Why should I have to pay for the same data twice. That's the biggest rip off that all carriers are doing, but untill enough people complain it will stay as it is.
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Both Sprint and TMO can tell.if you are tethering if they wish. They look the other way. If they sniff packets they have IP and MAC address.
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blakkheartt12 said:
T-Mobile will be able to tell you are tethering since they read what kind of packets are being sent. Laptops and desktops send a different type of data packet than mobile devices. If you are tethering to another android or ios device you can tether all you want no problem,but a laptop or desktop you will need to use a browser like chrome or firefox and change the user agent to either android or ios. That to me that defeats the purpose because if I wanted to look at mobile version of the web I can just use my phone.
You can use an app called pdanet which will let you USB tether and hide your tether usuage, but some websites might not work.
Another option is to set up a vpn and connet to the internet via vpn. A vpn connection encrypts all data transmission so t-mobile cannot read it so no need to change user agents.
Really I think tethering should be free. Why should I have to pay for the same data twice. That's the biggest rip off that all carriers are doing, but untill enough people complain it will stay as it is.
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You are not paying for the same data twice. If tethering was unlimited in theory your neighbors could tether if you let them. You can run multiple devices and different data. It is all about bandwidth
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RonnieRuff said:
Both Sprint and TMO can tell.if you are tethering if they wish. They look the other way. If they sniff packets they have IP and MAC address.
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You are not paying for the same data twice. If tethering was unlimited in theory your neighbors could tether if you let them. You can run multiple devices and different data. It is all about bandwidth
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Technically you are. There is no difference from the data the cellular companies send to your phone vs tethering. It's not like they use a different source of data for tethering. It's the same but they want to charge you as if it's different or costing them more if you tether. If I use 20 Gb a month on my phine or tethering to my laptop or pc whats the difference. It's still 20 Gb. Whether mobile or not the data is srill the same and from the same source, so why charge as if it was different?
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blakkheartt12 said:
Technically you are. There is no difference from the data the cellular companies send to your phone vs tethering. It's not like they use a different source of data for tethering. It's the same but they want to charge you as if it's different or costing them more if you tether. If I use 20 Gb a month on my phine or tethering to my laptop or pc whats the difference. It's still 20 Gb. Whether mobile or not the data is srill the same and from the same source, so why charge as if it was different?
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As far as I am concerned, it is costing them more in bandwidth usage. If everyone was allowed to tether all they want, the network would become so congested that data shows might becone slower for every user.
I may be wrong. Someone with a broader knowledge correct me if I am.
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MikeYuse0406 said:
As far as I am concerned, it is costing them more in bandwidth usage. If everyone was allowed to tether all they want, the network would become so congested that data shows might becone slower for every user.
I may be wrong. Someone with a broader knowledge correct me if I am.
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Not talking unlimited tethering.. But if I am paying for 5gb data, it should be up to me if I want to burn it watching Netflix on my phone... Or if I want to stream it on my laptop...
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lalab0y said:
Not talking unlimited tethering.. But if I am paying for 5gb data, it should be up to me if I want to burn it watching Netflix on my phone... Or if I want to stream it on my laptop...
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I agree with that.
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I totally agree with you that if you have an X amount of allotted high speed data it shouldn't matter how you use it.
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Good move I just left straight talk for tmobile because of the data throttling. The extra cash spent was well worth it.
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ibleedbloo said:
I'm not a tmobile customer...yet, but Sprint can't tell the difference between tethered or untethered data when rooted and using 3rd party.
Sorry to ask off topic question but how much data were you using on Straight Talk? I'm considering giving them a shot.
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Of course they can they just choose to look the other way. Carriers can at any time they want put a packet sniffer on your account.
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