Buying a Note II. Need some info. - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys. I hope u all are doing well with ur Notes!
I decided to buy the Note II N7100 and i was reading. I found out that the Note2 does have the Sudden Death Issue. My enemy since it took my SIII with it too :/
Mine got it by rooting etc (faulty EMMC was the ultimate cause).
I searched alot and found out that I need to be on the latest Firmware just to be ON THE SAFE SIDE.
But I wanna Root, MOD, flash ROMs and all that stuff. So since rooting is a risky thing. Also the EFS Partition can be disturbed so i wudnt want to brick this fellow :/
Can you please tell me a SAFE Method to root, flash CWM, reset flash counter, EFS partition etc.
Cuz i'm afraid i might end up bricking it like my SIII i9300
Thanks

WasifSal said:
Hi guys. I hope u all are doing well with ur Notes!
I decided to buy the Note II N7100 and i was reading. I found out that the Note2 does have the Sudden Death Issue. My enemy since it took my SIII with it too :/
Mine got it by rooting etc (faulty EMMC was the ultimate cause).
I searched alot and found out that I need to be on the latest Firmware just to be ON THE SAFE SIDE.
But I wanna Root, MOD, flash ROMs and all that stuff. So since rooting is a risky thing. Also the EFS Partition can be disturbed so i wudnt want to brick this fellow :/
Can you please tell me a SAFE Method to root, flash CWM, reset flash counter, EFS partition etc.
Cuz i'm afraid i might end up bricking it like my SIII i9300
Thanks
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Here this thread all answers to your questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
make sure after root to do EFS dont be lazy to skip this step.

aukhan said:
Here this thread all answers to your questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696
make sure after root to do EFS dont be lazy to skip this step.
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thanks alot bro! Can u assure me that the Note 2 is a bit more prone to such BRICKS than the S3 :/
cuz i havent shaken off from the affects of the previous loss :/

WasifSal said:
Hi guys. I hope u all are doing well with ur Notes!
I decided to buy the Note II N7100 and i was reading. I found out that the Note2 does have the Sudden Death Issue. My enemy since it took my SIII with it too :/
Mine got it by rooting etc (faulty EMMC was the ultimate cause).
I searched alot and found out that I need to be on the latest Firmware just to be ON THE SAFE SIDE.
But I wanna Root, MOD, flash ROMs and all that stuff. So since rooting is a risky thing. Also the EFS Partition can be disturbed so i wudnt want to brick this fellow :/
Can you please tell me a SAFE Method to root, flash CWM, reset flash counter, EFS partition etc.
Cuz i'm afraid i might end up bricking it like my SIII i9300
Thanks
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Just a tip, find a store which will replace the phone within a few days, if there's something wrong.
Check if the wifi works fine, I've had this phone for 6 months and it's driving me insane, custom roms and kernals haven't fixed anything.
If you're dropping this much dough, make sure it works. :highfive:

WasifSal said:
thanks alot bro! Can u assure me that the Note 2 is a bit more prone to such BRICKS than the S3 :/
cuz i havent shaken off from the affects of the previous loss :/
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Its always better to read and perform,
TIP
a lot of times if there is any Mods or tweaks read it twice or more times read replies or understand the complete functionality what changes are taking place and when your fully super confident then proceed or stop there only .

The chances of getting sds prone hardware are quite low now, unless you're unlucky enough to buy up some old stock
Sent from the mighty Note II

Thanks alot guys for ur responses i really appreciate this
The thing is i have always been "unlucky".
My SIII bricked when it wasnt supposed to :/
Thats why i have a bit of FEAR left in me xD
Being rooted, doing an EFS Backup, custom recovery etc. will be more preventful i think. I'm gonna do the same

WasifSal said:
thanks alot bro! Can u assure me that the Note 2 is a bit more prone to such BRICKS than the S3 :/
cuz i havent shaken off from the affects of the previous loss :/
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I have both SIII and Note II. After sometime of rooting, modding and cracking..... i still prefer Note 2 compared with S 3. You won't regret going for the big screen.

ahkiongkc said:
I have both SIII and Note II. After sometime of rooting, modding and cracking..... i still prefer Note 2 compared with S 3. You won't regret going for the big screen.
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Thanks alot really appreciate ur and all others help.... next phone is definitely the Note 2 then.
My choice was either a Nexus 4 (Rs. 40000 here) or a Galaxy Note 2 (for 48000 here)
A price difference yes but u get that giant screen, with a nice stylus and TW overall...
This BRICKING thing was the only thing that I was afraid of.
but still my question is a bit unanswered:
What do I have to be on, or what to do in order to PREVENT A BRICK?
(Mention in POINTS if u can )

WasifSal said:
but still my question is a bit unanswered:
What do I have to be on, or what to do in order to PREVENT A BRICK?
(Mention in POINTS if u can )
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There is different types of scenarios for this question ,
If its ok with you stay on STOCK for couple of days don't root it ,do all upgrades
for more info on sds please find this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2093599

before s4 and xperia Z was released i did some extensive research comparing phones from HTC samsung and sony. note that this was back in january. For note 2 the only downside is that the screen is not full HD. in fact the LCD density is one of the lowest. i'm guessing this is due to the huge screen. besides that it has the stylus and mult-window and floating windows and ****, combined with this huge stock 3100mAh battery. big screen, big battery, quad core. thats all that matters. however, for me, my tiny asian hands do find it abit bulky sometimes and i get clumsy sometimes when i try to use 1 hand. lol...

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New To Android, but bricked my phone?

Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
When you rooted did you NANDROID backup ? If not go into recovery and clear cache and then go into advanced and wipe delvik cache. reboot
If that fails go back into recovery and do a factory reset and you should be ok.
touchdownadrian said:
Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727401
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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I disagree as long as you are willing to learn from the mistake all is good. I had a Samsung Exhibit II and deleted touch wiz launched (I was using go launcher) later I would do a factory reset and well... learned that system files do not get restored when you do a factory reset...oops
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I agree, we all were NOOBS at some point. That's the one thing I love about XDA is that with patience and the help of the users any noob can learn how to mod their devices. One piece of advice that I can offer is before you do any type of modding is READ and keep on READING. I have bricked the first device I ever rooted because I did not READ the forums as they are meant to be read.
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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not fair
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
:silly:
touchdownadrian said:
Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
TheSeanTeam said:
It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
lordazoroth said:
I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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Same here. It took me months of researching on my vibrant before flashing my first rom (bionix 1.6 by teamwhiskey). As I progressed, I did brick left and right but I always managed to bring it back to life with my prior knowledge. Now I'm eagerly waiting for my computer to be done downloading the root files and get started.
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
:silly:
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
:silly:
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+++++++1 on that.... DAMN talk about headaches....
dmarco said:
Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Yeah one of the only other IMPORTANT thinks i could add would be always do a factory reset before flashing roms.. some people like to flash "dirty" i wouldnt recommend it cause you will ALWAYS have issues maybe not in a hour but guaranteed you will... but knowledge is power dude.. i two read for about 36 hours before rooting my phone.. i rooted my wifes phone days after a rooted mine back in the day it only took like 15 mins.. another thing let phone sit 10 mins before ya play with it... gotta let the cache settle... the ten min wait is well worth it.. ive been doing it that way since the vibrant bro.. happy flashing and welcome..
I read constantly things change hourly like when that new leaked kernels came out for sgs2 and the emmc was trashed never to come back from a brick again. To anyone that cares if you love your phone read more than just the root and flash stuff learn what makes your phone tick from the factory hardware software and added crap from your carrier it all play's a part in the end result. Its as easy as you make it.
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Nabeel10 said:
Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Ive passed down two vibrants (both rooted) to my sons so they can learn to flash roms and everything else that comes from the joys of root.
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[Q] Stock S III froze while listening to Pandora

Hi,
Just got my Galaxy SIII and I was listening to Pandora the other day. I had the screen off when all of a sudden the music stops. I hit the power button to see what was going on when it showed my lock screen and where the icons for my time and signal is suppose to be there was a blinking prohibition symbol, the circle with the forward slash going through it. Anyway I couldn't unlock my phone as it seemed frozen. Than I noticed after a minute the time showed and I got signal again, than the screen blinked and I was able to unlock my phone and get to my home screen. Started up Pandora and it was good for the rest of the day. This is the first hiccup this phone had. Something to be concerned about?
I'm a old member of this site that went iPhone but now I'm back and boy has things changed!
Yes my phone locked up on me a hundred times , im trying to sell it and use my iphone 5 instead too many problems on it and the keyboard is slow and lags alot .theres no music display on the lockscreen u should get rid of it and buy something else you're gonna have more problems in the future so prepare for it.
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rootyourphones said:
Yes my phone locked up on me a hundred times , im trying to sell it and use my iphone 5 instead too many problems on it and the keyboard is slow and lags alot .theres no music display on the lockscreen u should get rid of it and buy something else you're gonna have more problems in the future so prepare for it.
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Sounds like the first reason I left to go iPhone...hahahaha...oh great...I would have thought it was all figured out by now.
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rootyourphones said:
Yes my phone locked up on me a hundred times , im trying to sell it and use my iphone 5 instead too many problems on it and the keyboard is slow and lags alot .theres no music display on the lockscreen u should get rid of it and buy something else you're gonna have more problems in the future so prepare for it.
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Maybe you just have no idea how to use root to fix your issues. Love my S3, it crushes your puny, boring iPone.
Seriously man, why are you even here? I looked at your posts and you're obviously a iPone fanboy. Are you just here to troll? Do you work for Apple?
OP, if your phone is freezing up on you, try a custom rom and see if that fixes it. Or, if you haven't rooted yet (or even if you have and know how to flash back to stock), get a warranty replacement since your device may be defective.
skrambled said:
Maybe you just have no idea how to use root to fix your issues. Love my S3, it crushes your puny, boring iPone.
Seriously man, why are you even here? I looked at your posts and you're obviously a iPone fanboy. Are you just here to troll? Do you work for Apple?
OP, if your phone is freezing up on you, try a custom rom and see if that fixes it. Or, if you haven't rooted yet (or even if you have and know how to flash back to stock), get a warranty replacement since your device may be defective.
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Finally a light at the end of the tunnel. I love the S3 too. I came from a iPhone 3GS but I have lots of usage time with the 4, 4S and 5. The S3 to me is a lot more fun. You can do so much more. I admit I don't miss the hiccups though. Just this morning I had to restart it because it wasn't picking up a network signal and after the restart it was fine. Probably a network issue but those are the things that never happened on a iPhone. I guess you have to give up comfort for cool features on the androids. A friend of mine says root another says don't cause that leads to more problems....I know rooting would give me lots more control though right?
t-tyme01 said:
Finally a light at the end of the tunnel. I love the S3 too. I came from a iPhone 3GS but I have lots of usage time with the 4, 4S and 5. The S3 to me is a lot more fun. You can do so much more. I admit I don't miss the hiccups though. Just this morning I had to restart it because it wasn't picking up a network signal and after the restart it was fine. Probably a network issue but those are the things that never happened on a iPhone. I guess you have to give up comfort for cool features on the androids. A friend of mine says root another says don't cause that leads to more problems....I know rooting would give me lots more control though right?
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Yeah, rooting would give you a lot more control. Just make sure you read carefully and know what you're doing, the stickies at the top of the Development and General sections include everything you need to know to get started.
But you may just want to start with doing a factory data reset. This would delete all your saved files, pictures, music, etc, but you can back anything up on a pc before doing it and you'll still have it. Just go into Settings/Back up and reset/ and select Factory Data Reset. This will format your data and will remove any bad data that could be causing you problems, and you'll be back to the out-of-the-box state.
Or, if you want to try rooting, after reading up of course, this is the place to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
After rooting you can install custom roms with built-in fixes for certain issues, or you can just be rooted and use apps like Titanium Backup to freeze the bloatware that AT&T and Samsung put on the device which could be causing lag and other issues.
That said, read these posts (and any others that may apply) before doing anything root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450
Good luck! :good:
skrambled said:
Yeah, rooting would give you a lot more control. Just make sure you read carefully and know what you're doing, the stickies at the top of the Development and General sections include everything you need to know to get started.
But you may just want to start with doing a factory data reset. This would delete all your saved files, pictures, music, etc, but you can back anything up on a pc before doing it and you'll still have it. Just go into Settings/Back up and reset/ and select Factory Data Reset. This will format your data and will remove any bad data that could be causing you problems, and you'll be back to the out-of-the-box state.
Or, if you want to try rooting, after reading up of course, this is the place to start: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
After rooting you can install custom roms with built-in fixes for certain issues, or you can just be rooted and use apps like Titanium Backup to freeze the bloatware that AT&T and Samsung put on the device which could be causing lag and other issues.
That said, read these posts (and any others that may apply) before doing anything root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699450
Good luck! :good:
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I've only had the phone two weeks now. I'll wait for the factory reset until it really starts tweaking on me. I haven't really done much besides add apps. Thanks for the links I'll look into it.
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Maybe you just have no idea how to use root to fix your issues. Love my S3, it crushes your puny, boring iPone.
Seriously man, why are you even here? I looked at your posts and you're obviously a iPone fanboy. Are you just here to troll? Do you work for Apple?
OP, if your phone is freezing up on you, try a custom rom and see if that fixes it. Or, if you haven't rooted yet (or even if you have and know how to flash back to stock), get a warranty replacement since your device may be defective.
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My phone is rooted and on serenity rom so what else u got.
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If u say its defective cause it freezeing than samsung should do a recall on all if them lmao
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Strange amount of Bricked devices anyone else notice

I seen someone mention that
People have been labeling tw roms and aosp roms incorrectly,There have been an unusual amount of brick topics lately, anyone else wondering if we are dealing with standard "flashing" user error, or actual misleading info on certain roms . Many of the most novice to longtime xda members have even been bricking over the stupidist stuff.
This device t999 specifically
bricking this(any) phone by flashing an incorrect rom isnt that easy to be honest... plus the worst that can happen by flashing is usually a softbrick a.k.a bootloop. (unless your an idiot and you flash stuff from a different device)
i mean i may just be way too experienced after 8 years of hacking away at android, but its not simple to brick a phone. its usually caused by lack of attention. for example, most people dont even read the OP of roms threads the whole way. they just download and flash and come back and say "why doesnt this work?"
im also curious how many people actually tried to use ODIN to restore there phone before they proclaimed "hard brick"
ziggy46 said:
i mean i may just be way too experienced after 8 years of hacking away at android, but its not simple to brick a phone.
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I have literally 4.5 months of experience with Android and I feel the way you do so I think it's largely lack of paying attention or not doing the research and reading first. I've tried multiple ROMs on my phone and I've helped friends learn how to root and understand the process of installing ROMs and no one has had a brick yet.
If you jump out of an airplane without learning how to use your parachute what do you expect ?
The S3 most likely has a high number of bricks because it has a huge user-base - thus even if the proportions are the same as other devices there are more people by number who are trying things without knowing what they're doing and those people are going to end up with bricks.
I've certainly seen times when the ROM was to blame, but it's almost always not a hard brick. That's the chance you take with installing a custom ROM - sometimes there are bugs and stuff happens. If you can't accept that possibility don't flash.
Pennycake said:
I have literally 4.5 months of experience with Android and I feel the way you do so I think it's largely lack of paying attention or not doing the research and reading first. I've tried multiple ROMs on my phone and I've helped friends learn how to root and understand the process of installing ROMs and no one has had a brick yet.
If you jump out of an airplane without learning how to use your parachute what do you expect ?
The S3 most likely has a high number of bricks because it has a huge user-base - thus even if the proportions are the same as other devices there are more people by number who are trying things without knowing what they're doing and those people are going to end up with bricks.
I've certainly seen times when the ROM was to blame, but it's almost always not a hard brick. That's the chance you take with installing a custom ROM - sometimes there are bugs and stuff happens. If you can't accept that possibility don't flash.
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ahh the userbase! thats a good one thanks for pointing it out. i also believe that users from other variants end up here and flash the incorrect rom by google-ing "roms for s3" and going to the first xda link they see. which may lead to flashing improper roms resulting in the $400 paper weight
999 times out of 1000 it's user error.
DaMn NoObS
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Yes user error is to blame nobody likes to search or even read for that matter
Reading fixes 99.999% of all common newb problems
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If anyone hard bricks this device they deserve it. You literally almost have to intentionally try to brick in order to do so.
On another note... I haven't seen many brick threads with ppl that actually broke their devices
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Most brick threads I've seen lately are either softbricks, boot loops or not bricked at all, just errors from dirty flashing.
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ahh the userbase! thats a good one thanks for pointing it out. i also believe that users from other variants end up here and flash the incorrect rom by google-ing "roms for s3" and going to the first xda link they see. which may lead to flashing improper roms resulting in the $400 paper weight
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+1 i definitely agree with what you said. my friend searched on google "how to root galaxy s3" attempting to root her AT&T GS3, and almost ended up with a brick (she found an international s3 root method) had she not came and asked me first...phew that was close.
It's just called common sense, not many have it.
Most I have seen are soft breaks and user panics before either: clearing cachy and factory reset or Odin. They just jump straight to I have a break.
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Name of post should be "Strange amount of idiots bricking their phones"
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ziggy46 said:
bricking this(any) phone by flashing an incorrect rom isnt that easy to be honest... plus the worst that can happen by flashing is usually a softbrick a.k.a bootloop. (unless your an idiot and you flash stuff from a different device)
i mean i may just be way too experienced after 8 years of hacking away at android, but its not simple to brick a phone. its usually caused by lack of attention. for example, most people dont even read the OP of roms threads the whole way. they just download and flash and come back and say "why doesnt this work?"
im also curious how many people actually tried to use ODIN to restore there phone before they proclaimed "hard brick"
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Wow bro 8 years of android hacking? Can I borrow your flux capacitor? First android phone released 10/2008
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Wow bro 8 years of android hacking? Can I borrow your flux capacitor? First android phone released 10/2008
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i over-exaggerated a little its actually only about 5 years... im 16 now and i started when i was 10-11ish
ziggy46 said:
i over-exaggerated a little its actually only about 5 years... im 16 now and i started when i was 10-11ish
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Aww man 16? does that mean I wasted my flux capacitor reference? Just messing around I figured it was a typo or something I just couldn't resist :laugh:
NoOooOoOObs
ziggy46 said:
bricking this(any) phone by flashing an incorrect rom isnt that easy to be honest... plus the worst that can happen by flashing is usually a softbrick a.k.a bootloop. (unless your an idiot and you flash stuff from a different device).........
im also curious how many people actually tried to use ODIN to restore there phone before they proclaimed "hard brick"
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I'm one. (lol)
Aerowinder said:
999 times out of 1000 it's user error.
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bfranklin1986 said:
DaMn NoObS
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Google and XDA Premium have been my friend throughout my past few years with T-Mobile... since the days of my Behold, Memoir, Samsung Galaxy S 4g, and now my SGS3... I've found a great piece of mind in knowing I'm not a complete idiot, nor am I the first to screw something up.
And while I have made a few devices "boot-loop" from time to time, rooting is easy as pie. And if you happen to research before you do any job, you might learn a thing or two. I specifically love the threads (on any forum, not just here) where someone posts "READ CAREFULLY" followed by "DOWNLOAD LINK" and just two or three replies later, there has to be that one r-tard that asks "What do I do? Where's the download link? I'm so confused!". I want to piss in their coffee and break their mug over their face. Literacy is depleting; and there's little we can do about it.
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Wow bro 8 years of android hacking? Can I borrow your flux capacitor? First android phone released 10/2008
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Hilarious!
Things have gotten so much easier. My only brick was a g1 (HTC dream). Things were a lot trickier then. It had an IPL-initial program loader (bootloader) and an SPL-secondary program loader (radio). Some roms required the bootloader from the the HTC magic (mytouch3g). Not all dream radios were compatible with the magic bootloader. So you always flashed a magic compatible radio first then bootloader. One night when it was really late, I was repeating the flash I had already done I my own g1 but on my wife's g1 this time. I accidentally reversed the order and BOOM, hard brick. In that state, the ipl can't hand off to the spl. Only option was hardware jtag that hadn't been discovered yet.
She was pissed.
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Remember when I rooted my first (lg optimus v) I thought with a recovery I could flash any Rom...thankfully I have learned otherwise and didn't have to learn by looking like an idiot.I came very close to flashing some random Rom probably from the evo4G
Fortunately laziness actually served me well lol
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[Q] Should I get the Note 3?

My Jump! just came up yesterday but was too busy to go swap my device. The only real decent phone that catches my eye and criteria, being it must have an sd slot, is the Note3.
Now I have a few questions regarding this. I currently have the s3 and it's rooted; will I need to unroot and triangleaway before taking it in? I've read some reports that tmo wont care if it's rooted and I don't remember where to find the t999L unroot method.
Furthermore, should I be worried about this KNOX thing? I love flashing and trying new things, because over time I get bored with the same setup. I dont plan to ever go through samsung for replacements as that's why I have tmo insurance and warranties.
from what I've seen, this KNOX thing is just a new problem attracting attention to samsung as most US based phones deal with carriers as far as returns and exchanges, not the actual company. Not to mention android itself is open source.
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My Jump! just came up yesterday but was too busy to go swap my device. The only real decent phone that catches my eye and criteria, being it must have an sd slot, is the Note3.
Now I have a few questions regarding this. I currently have the s3 and it's rooted; will I need to unroot and triangleaway before taking it in? I've read some reports that tmo wont care if it's rooted and I don't remember where to find the t999L unroot method.
Furthermore, should I be worried about this KNOX thing? I love flashing and trying new things, because over time I get bored with the same setup. I dont plan to ever go through samsung for replacements as that's why I have tmo insurance and warranties.
from what I've seen, this KNOX thing is just a new problem attracting attention to samsung as most US based phones deal with carriers as far as returns and exchanges, not the actual company. Not to mention android itself is open source.
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there are other methods to root. id suggust look through the forum if you can only b.c i cant rmr the name, i think its la something vega or vegas. i came from the htc one so the roms here are so much different.
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Naturesretard said:
My Jump! just came up yesterday but was too busy to go swap my device. The only real decent phone that catches my eye and criteria, being it must have an sd slot, is the Note3.
Now I have a few questions regarding this. I currently have the s3 and it's rooted; will I need to unroot and triangleaway before taking it in? I've read some reports that tmo wont care if it's rooted and I don't remember where to find the t999L unroot method.
Furthermore, should I be worried about this KNOX thing? I love flashing and trying new things, because over time I get bored with the same setup. I dont plan to ever go through samsung for replacements as that's why I have tmo insurance and warranties.
from what I've seen, this KNOX thing is just a new problem attracting attention to samsung as most US based phones deal with carriers as far as returns and exchanges, not the actual company. Not to mention android itself is open source.
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there are other methods to root. id suggust look through the forum if you can only b.c i cant rmr the name, i think its la something vega or vegas. i came from the htc one so the roms here are so much different.
id recommend you get the note three
Short answer. Yes. Best phone I've ever owned.
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ty for the replies guys. Should I just wait a month or two before rooting? I played with the handset instore for a little and it doesn't feel like it needs rooting right away.
I'm concerned about KNOX. I don't think I'll have to do any warranty exchanges, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
I'm far too lazy to unroot my s3, so I'm just gonna try and swap it while it's still rooted. if they give me problems I'll just unroot it then take it to another store
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ty for the replies guys. Should I just wait a month or two before rooting? I played with the handset instore for a little and it doesn't feel like it needs rooting right away.
I'm concerned about KNOX. I don't think I'll have to do any warranty exchanges, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
I'm far too lazy to unroot my s3, so I'm just gonna try and swap it while it's still rooted. if they give me problems I'll just unroot it then take it to another store
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I'd wait to root. The phone is so much fun, as it is. And the whole Knox thing is a bother worth avoiding, for now. I could see it being worth rooting if there were reliable KitKat roms with TouchWiz. But there aren't. So why bother, for now?
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I'd wait to root. The phone is so much fun, as it is. And the whole Knox thing is a bother worth avoiding, for now. I could see it being worth rooting if there were reliable KitKat roms with TouchWiz. But there aren't. So why bother, for now?
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For me rooting is about debloating the phone. Either by removing bloat or (as i have done with the Note 3) just freeze them for now. This gets a very noticeable increase in battery life. Also some mods can be nice. I like a very clean ROM with optimizations to battery and UI. The Kernel can be optimized too but like a stock kernel usually.
I'm coming from the VZW S4 running CleanROM and Bonestock but right now on the Note 3 I'm Rooted on Stock, with Bloat frozen and getting 7-10% battery drain per hour of screen on time (at 35% brightness) depending on what I'm doing.
i am curious how people like this phone, especially compared to the Note 2 and Galaxy S4. i thought the Note 2 was probably my favorite ever, the stock UI was smooth and battery life was excellent. i used the S4 briefly and found it a bit clunky and laggy with all those fancy features(although battery life seemed excellent).
so, how would you say the Note 3 is in these regards?
Phones awesome. Get it. No downsides whatsoever on this phone, sexy build, power, speed, removeable battery and SD card, great stock battery. Big ass sexy 1080 screen, what more do you really want or need from a phone?
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My S4 was fine with the slightest of lag stock out of the box. I have the VZW variant from launch day (May 23rd) and i never took an OTA. With that said the 2 ROMs i used 100% wiped out any remaining lag. My S4 was pretty much perfect for me. The reason I am now on a Note 3 is i took advantage of Tmo paying off ETF. So why not upgrade to the Note 3 instead of making a lateral move?
That said, the Note 3 is AMAZING. It's much snappier and faster. I am Rooted with TWRP but stock ROM with just bloat frozen. It has better battery life and the spen functionality is really good. If you haven't you should really watch some YouTube vids to really see it in action. A 5 inch screen is most ideal but I have large hands so 5.7 is nicer for me as i do consume a lot of content (Youtube, SlingBox, Netflix). This wile still on the stock ROM too. I think anyone coming from the S4 or Note 2 will be very happy and would think of it as a worthy upgrade not a marginal one.
To the op question ~ I'm still torn between my Note 2 and this. The volume on this is so low that Samsung is practically begging you to root this phone just for that.
Tough call imo both are good. I believe you can still get the N2 pre 4.3 and not have to worry about Knox.
Software side its the small things that bug the hell out of me like having a white dialer and not being able to open internet pages in the background. Things like this that are enough to piss off the Pope!
rosedog said:
To the op question ~ I'm still torn between my Note 2 and this. The volume on this is so low that Samsung is practically begging you to root this phone just for that.
Tough call imo both are good. I believe you can still get the N2 pre 4.3 and not have to worry about Knox.
Software side its the small things that bug the hell out of me like having a white dialer and not being able to open internet pages in the background. Things like this that are enough to piss off the Pope!
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I ended up getting it. I had to go back 3 times because my IMEI didn't reflect my account thru my warranty exchange. Went back today and handed in my s3 still rooted. The first 2 they actually checked if it booted, the 3rd just went ahead and did it. But to be fair he was there the other 2 times and was helping me then too. But they didn't go through any menus or anything to verify if modified or not. Just a 3 point inspection: No water damage, Boots, No cracks in the glass.
playing with it for a while..... Holy **** this thing is fast. I though I had stable quick roms on my s3... this thing just ZOOMS. I managed to lock it up once learning an spen feature, but only a mild hiccup. Aside from that I absolutely LOVE this phone. SO worth the minor 9$ bill increase. I can't wait to see what sammy drops for this. I'm surprised kitkat isn't an ota right now. I see no reason why it can't handle it.
Booted into download mode to see what was up. knox hasn't been tripped. I really want to try rooting just to see if I can debloat a little bit, but I'm a little worried to even mess with it. Do we know for sure if it's an eFuse or just software?
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I ended up getting it. I had to go back 3 times because my IMEI didn't reflect my account thru my warranty exchange. Went back today and handed in my s3 still rooted. The first 2 they actually checked if it booted, the 3rd just went ahead and did it. But to be fair he was there the other 2 times and was helping me then too. But they didn't go through any menus or anything to verify if modified or not. Just a 3 point inspection: No water damage, Boots, No cracks in the glass.
playing with it for a while..... Holy **** this thing is fast. I though I had stable quick roms on my s3... this thing just ZOOMS. I managed to lock it up once learning an spen feature, but only a mild hiccup. Aside from that I absolutely LOVE this phone. SO worth the minor 9$ bill increase. I can't wait to see what sammy drops for this. I'm surprised kitkat isn't an ota right now. I see no reason why it can't handle it.
Booted into download mode to see what was up. knox hasn't been tripped. I really want to try rooting just to see if I can debloat a little bit, but I'm a little worried to even mess with it. Do we know for sure if it's an eFuse or just software?
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If all my reading is correct Root De La Vega will root without tripping Knox counter to 0x1.... it will stay 0x0 but the CF-auto root i think may trip Knox just with rooting. BUT... if you put any custom recovery on it like TWRP or CWM that will trip the Knox counter to 0x1. Knox is an eFuse, its hardware i believe the eFuse is in the Snapdragon 800 chip.
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If all my reading is correct Root De La Vega will root without tripping Knox counter to 0x1.... it will stay 0x0 but the CF-auto root i think may trip Knox just with rooting. BUT... if you put any custom recovery on it like TWRP or CWM that will trip the Knox counter to 0x1. Knox is an eFuse, its hardware i believe the eFuse is in the Snapdragon 800 chip.
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But do we know for sure? I've done a bit of reading too. And from what I've seen it's truly unknown. Even if so, would Sammy actually tear down that far to validate warranty claims?
Is this root method easily undone? Cuz all I really want to root for is my tibu and ad blockers. I'm content with stock atm
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But do we know for sure? I've done a bit of reading too. And from what I've seen it's truly unknown. Even if so, would Sammy actually tear down that far to validate warranty claims?
Is this root method easily undone? Cuz all I really want to root for is my tibu and ad blockers. I'm content with stock atm
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There is talk that it can be reset by Samsung, but nothing specific, I rooted via de la Vega and stayed stock to get some basic access without any issues. Very happy with the phone like it is and have no urge to try other roms.
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But do we know for sure? I've done a bit of reading too. And from what I've seen it's truly unknown. Even if so, would Sammy actually tear down that far to validate warranty claims?
Is this root method easily undone? Cuz all I really want to root for is my tibu and ad blockers. I'm content with stock atm
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I think Root De La Vega you're safe but not if you put a custom recovery on. just going to have to read through the post. and others can chime in if they did it that way. I put custom recovery on my phone right away so i just used CF-Auto root so i can't confirm from my experiences.
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i am curious how people like this phone, especially compared to the Note 2 and Galaxy S4. i thought the Note 2 was probably my favorite ever, the stock UI was smooth and battery life was excellent. i used the S4 briefly and found it a bit clunky and laggy with all those fancy features(although battery life seemed excellent).
so, how would you say the Note 3 is in these regards?
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Everything about the note 3 is superior to the note 2(except audio lol), screen is crisp and brighter, more storage for games and apps, apps2sd is back!!, snapdragon800 soc is friggin insane even tho i do give props to sammys exynos soc, better build quality, better battery life.
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Note 3
YES! I had my Sprint S3 stolen.... so glad I spent my hard earned money to switch to T-Mobile and to get the Note 3. Best choice I made in years!!!

Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (AT&T) : Stuck on Samsung Logo/Battery Screen

Years owned : Since 2012
Model : SGH-L317
Carrier : AT&T
Good Morning, everyone.
I've had my note 2 since 2012 and I didn't have an issue until now. The phone is rooted (I believe it was CleanRom Ace with the Apex Settings thing), and as the title says it, I guess it was time the phone finally got some kind major error and it started with freezing on the logo screen when booted. I thought maybe I leave it like that overnight , so I wake up, completely dead now its stuck on battery screen logo. I think I can still get access to the menu (hold home,volume down and power button) where i can access odin. No recovery mode..no nada =/...
So I need to know if this is just a battery issue or maybe its time that I set this to factory settings? But I still want it rooted.. Please help everyone. I understand most of this so I just need a boost of confidence from everyone and know if this is possible to fix. Thank you very much!
Adam.
Had similar issue with note 10.1 tab, turned out the storage became corrupted, now it's just a nice paper weight.... Best of luck thou-
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johng75 said:
Had similar issue with note 10.1 tab, turned out the storage became corrupted, now it's just a nice paper weight.... Best of luck thou-
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Yeah. I think its really just flashing this and what not. But i really need someone here who's been through this problem and point me to a thread where it directions from A-Z. That's all . I can do the rest.
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Yeah. I think its really just flashing this and what not. But i really need someone here who's been through this problem and point me to a thread where it directions from A-Z. That's all . I can do the rest.
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Well the thing about this note 2 is that it's been pretty much indestructible. I've had to Odin back to stock, flash chainfires files and start over. So is suggest that. Odin back to stock and start over. Ps google is your friend
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Well the thing about this note 2 is that it's been pretty much indestructible. I've had to Odin back to stock, flash chainfires files and start over. So is suggest that. Odin back to stock and start over. Ps google is your friend
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all due respect, they were my friend, they wouldn't guide me to a bunch of sites that really has no significant answer. It's like i said, I used many versions of Odin. it just doesn't wanna work. I got those Pit at mapping messages and... yea. That's pretty much the end of it.
EDIT : i made another thread about it , so someone should close this.

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