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I have just got my XDAIIs and the Wifi works, however the signal quality is poor i.e 30-40% and the TX rate is only 2M. This is with power save mode setting set to best performance and I am within 1 metre from the wireless router.
ANy ideas
mine is the same
What wireless router are you guys using? I've noticed it varies with different brands. At home I've got an Apple Airport Extreme and I get about the same as you guys, whereas at work we use 3COM wireless routers and at a distance of a few meters I get about 75-80% reception.
Dimitri
I'm using a 3com and reception is around 60% anywhere. Whether I'm stood next to it or upstairs and in the opposit corner of the house (i.e. lots of bricks in the way). It's not until I go outside and start walking away from the house that I get a sudden drop off.
In other words, I think the connection software is more at fault in how it reports the signal strength than the reception.
Real Wifi transmission rate
I read back a while ago here that the maximum transmission rate on the O2 xda II, not IIs, was limited to a throughput of 256K, eventhough reception was at 2mb etc, is this true for the IIs? This was was to internal systems of the xda etc, nothing to do with wifi card etc?
I've got a netgear and a buffalo and both are the same sort of reception
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I am using a Belkin WIreless router
Hi
Mines a Draytek 2600G complete with 2 high gain (5dBi antennae), same issues, poor wifi signal when not standing next to AP. Laptop with pcicma 54G card shows full signal at same location where XDA barely registers a signal.
This causes loads of problems with skype, which drops the call and takes the wifi connection with it (soft restart required to restore).
Nigel
Are you all using Bluetooth while trying to communicate with an 802.11 network?
Bluetooth and 802.11 both operate in the 2.4 GHz band, and because of Bluetooth's frequency hopping, it can seriously impair 802.11 performance.
Some devices with integrated Bluetooth and 802.11 have proprietary mechanisms to deal with this problem, but not all as it's not mandatory.
Hi
Nope, thought of that. Killed Bluetooth on handset, other bluetooth gadgets in house, other wifi stuff bar the AP and DECT phone, and I am not running the microwave!!
Same result, poor wifi range. Also tried with 3 separate AP's now same result each time.
Went to PC world this morning connected a couple of their demo IPAQ jobbies to their btopenzone AP, got the meters up and held mine next to ipaqs. Without fail, the IPAQ's were reading 3/4 signal and my XDA was barely registering a signal. Staff must have thought I was a nutter, but I wanted to prove the sh1te wifi issue to myself!
Nigel
Anyone got an SDIO wifi card that they can test with - i'd be interested to know now much better that performed.
Nigel
i'm sure it would perform mucho better. I get the 40% signal with my buffalo router... no matter where i stand. you'd think little things like this would have been discovered during the qa cycle.
I get a much better reception around the house with my XDA 2 with an SDIO sandisk Wi-Fi card than I do with my XDA IIs with built in Wi-Fi
I don't have a Blue Angel yet, as I'm waiting to see if many of the reported issues (like this one) get resolved. However, I have a few comments/questions/suggestions:
Does anyone here know where the 802.11 antenna is inside the Blue Angel's case?
Being a software engineer who develops device drivers for 802.11 hardware, I've worked with a fair amount of WiFi devices. Chances are, the problem everyone is experiencing with WiFi is almost sure to be due to a REALLY BAD internal WiFi antenna design. The antenna is either being shielded by something inside the enclosure or picking up interference from another component.
If it's possible to shut off the internal WiFi card, one way to test the above theory is to try an SDIO WiFi card in the Blue Angel. If anyone can try this, please post your results.
If we can get information about where the antenna is in the case, it might be possible to reroute the internal antenna, or (less desirable) attach an external antenna to improve reception.
In addition, improving WiFi reception will almost surely improve battery life as well as a side effect.
It amazes me that customers of a $900 device have to jury-rig solutions to so many problems...
I use an USB Wifi dongle by Asus, reception is good arround the house, even through a lot of walls
I agree with poster above wifi on blue Angel sucks
I have both Blue Angel and XDA2 +Socket SDIO, and there is no doubt that the Socket sdio XDA2 combo has noticeably better reception, having done tests (ie trying them both from a distant spot, XDA2 can maintain connection, XDA2s can't). I'm shipping the XDA2s back and waiting for the Mini/Magician. Reception is the key to this when trying to hop on random hotpsots in the streets...so sayonara Blue Angel, too bad though...
Also, FYI on XDA, speed limit is 256K, not 2mb, due to buffers etc. routers do not prefer either system and WEP works fine on both.
Has anyone managed to get the XDA2 and socket or sandisk SD wifi card working with a dling 54g access point namely the dwl2000ap+?
I've heard of a few issues with DLINK 54g access points and these cards?
Cheers
I have the SX66 / same as PDA2k but built like XDA IIs, I use the built in wifi alot but I also Have the SDIO Socket Card also and run it when a need longer distance. No conflicts of any kind that I have seen, works well with my D-Link Router but reception is not so good with built in.
Have a Linksys WAG54G 54mb, and have tried on Dlink 108Mb running both on mixed mode. One thing I will suggest that others have mentioned but cant be explained enough, as most people place their DECT phone next to their wireless router. There needs to be at least 2M distance between the two antenna's otherwise interference will kill signal dramatically, even on different channels.
With this said, have tried XDA Mini with combo wifi card, XDA2 with wifi card, and XDAIIs with builtin, and the power management turned off to give maximum power. Yes the IIs consumes the most amount of juice, followed by the XDA2, then the Mini.
On a quick scan, drive home using wififofum, with the 3 of them mounted on the dash, came up with the following results on drive to and from work.
Access points discovered
XDA2 - 78
XDAIIs - 89
XDA Mini - 82
I might also mention, that half of these have no encryption at all, or have left noobie default settings on routers - thanks guys ;-)
Overall like the IIs, except heats up too quick and loses battery life, especially using the wireless. XDA Mini rocks, just because the size and I can place the wifi card in when i need it, and the XDA 2 is just the stable toy I have had for the last 12 months.
where did you get the XDA mini?
I didn't know that it was out in the UK yet?
Anyone ever use one? If so, what do you think of this?
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_antenna_combo_em_removal.html
Not interest in saving my brain, but in extending my 3G and 4G range.
I'm a little interested as well. For $50, it had better give great reception.
I heard my friend talk about this today. I hope it works.
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I have used them from Wilson Electronics with great results...Don't know about these
Hold the (cell)phone - that one doesn't cover the LTE frequencies. Here's a nice indoor one that covers 700 MHz.
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_thunderbolt_all_bands_8db_panel_indoor.html
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I would like to see how they are attached to the Thunderbolt. (It says direct connect). There is no illustration of the antenna connection to the phone.
rtompkins3 said:
I would like to see how they are attached to the Thunderbolt. (It says direct connect). There is no illustration of the antenna connection to the phone.
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I would think that it plus into that jack on the bottom back of the TBolt.
Looks to have a rubber plug in it now.
I thought that was covering a screw
Has anyone tried either of these or any other similar device? I recently moved and now my signal has gone to hell (I'm lucky if I get one bar), so I'm seriously considering one of these.
Any reviews/feedback?
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I thought that was covering a screw
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thats what ive heard.
i also would like to see how this thing connects..
Are we still unaware as to how this connects to the phone? All we've got is our USB port and our headphone jack... unless there's a secret antennae jack that I'm unaware of?
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Are we still unaware as to how this connects to the phone? All we've got is our USB port and our headphone jack... unless there's a secret antennae jack that I'm unaware of?
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I know on the droid and several other phones, there are little Antenna diversity jacks so that you can plug in extended or high-gain antennas (usually underneath the battery covers). I have seen the metal connectors (but not in a standardized form) on the inside of the case that connect to the antenna leads inside the back cover. You could potentially solder some leads from those to a proper antenna connecter that you mount on the back of the phone or inside one of those rubber fitted screw-holes. Then you could plug in and unplug your external antenna. As far as standardized connectors for external antennas, I don't think the T-Bolt has one.
emailed that site. heres what they said:
The is a small plastic cover, about 1/4" in diameter, on the back
of the phone. You may remove, very carefully, with a needle, and
the antenna port will be exposed.
Notice, however, that we recommend using the ExtAntPro™ adapter
with the Thunderbolt, because of the very small antenna port. The
regular adapter, which comes with the antennas, falls off very
easily, although it does still work.
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they seem to think that cover isnt hiding just a screw, even tho htc says its just a screw. i feel that htc rep might be wrong tho. i might just have to tear my cover off to figure it out once and for all.
edit: ok that htc person is stupid. ITS AN ANTENNA PORT FOR SURE. watch this vid:
http://youtu.be/zdPiT82gWKw?hd=1&t=2m48s pause at about 2:52. youll see its clearly an antenna port with contacts in the circuit board running from it.
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emailed that site. heres what they said:
they seem to think that cover isnt hiding just a screw, even tho htc says its just a screw. i feel that htc rep might be wrong tho. i might just have to tear my cover off to figure it out once and for all.
edit: ok that htc person is stupid. ITS AN ANTENNA PORT FOR SURE. watch this vid:
http://youtu.be/zdPiT82gWKw?hd=1&t=2m48s pause at about 2:52. youll see its clearly an antenna port with contacts in the circuit board running from it.
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Hello, I second that. I had these antennas for a couple years. I never found the antenna connection on the last couple phones I had, so I never even cared to pull the rubber plug, but it is indeed the antenna plug, these antennas work great, special during long drives, or for when I visit relatives who live in the woods, with a very weak signal. Thanks!
nope not covering a screw i double checked
I would never hook up an external antenna to a phone again. I did it once with my old Samsung Epix, and while it improved the signal when I disconnected the antenna I lost all service, so my phone was basically useless after connecting it.
What about a signal repeater, my office uses them and they work great! our corp office is outside of town so weak signal. Get to work and go inside you get full bars - kinda weird when you notice it. They are place on windows on every floor look just like the external antenna but only have a power cord coming off it.
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What about a signal repeater, my office uses them and they work great! our corp office is outside of town so weak signal. Get to work and go inside you get full bars - kinda weird when you notice it. They are place on windows on every floor look just like the external antenna but only have a power cord coming off it.
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We have one of these at my work as well. Great signal outside, but not so much in the basement of the building. As soon as we moved into that building, getting one of these installed was a top priority of mine. It made a HUGE difference, although mostly for non-VZW!
external antenna
Search U.FL on wikipedia
That appears to be the connector under the rubber plug on a thunderbolt.
I cant find any that just go straight except ipx connectors at rfconnector.com
Does connecting an external antenna affect the internal one at all?
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Search U.FL on wikipedia
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The TB jack is not a Hirose U.FL. It looks more like a MS-156.
Girlfriend's car has a factory CD player with no aux input, so I bought a belkin FM transmitter to plug into her galaxy s.
We've found that in rural areas it is acceptable sound quality until you get into or close to a town. Sometimes it even seems to get interference from nearby traffic. Quite a fickle device, at some points it's better to hold the transmitter in your hand or lay it on your lap. Guess it uses your body as an antenna to some extent.
Has anyone had better experiences with similar devices? Are there any DIY hardware hacks to increase the reception/amplify the signal?
I'm thinking maybe cracking the thing open and improving the antenna somehow.
I'd give the model number if I had it in front of me right now.
Joe-
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Not quite what you are asking for but I would look into an FM modulator. They can be picked up for around 15-$25 at Walmart,pepboys,autozone ect
That's what it is, Belkin TuneCast FM transmitter/modulator.
Joe-
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Sorry I meant wired. I've never liked wireless for the reason you described. And a few years ago the FCC has made it so FM transmitters like these and in sirrius radios cant send as strong a signal as they once could. Which is why I like the wired. Just give it power and ground and plug it into the cars antenna.
Here is an example. You can find them locally without the switch/auxiliary power loacally I'm sure. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B001QBG614/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=15684181&s=automotive
I see. It plugs directly into the antenna input on the back of the head unit and then the car antenna piggy backs to it. Yeah that should be much better!
Doubt this small town would have it. Maybe radio shack but doubtful.
Doesn't look like too much trouble once you pull the head unit. Where is it getting power from?
Thanks
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most 12v switched sources should be fine, though most I see just run it to the fuse panel inside. Most kits Ive seen have an Inline fuse on the 12V wire so you could tap any switched 12V that you feel wont give you to much noise.
should be able to find them at any auto store that has an audio/electronics section or walmart
Maybe this will be inspiration for me to get one for my work truck. Depending where I drive I get great signal or none for my Sirius satellite
Does wally world carry the modulators perhaps?
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Yup, I mentioned it twice.
DERP
Thanks for the suggestions.
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I've had a few Belkins and found them to be too quit sounding (when you flip to another FM its a lot louder) and too low of range. I'm using a Satechi Soundfly right now, it can read from USB or SD card or be fed by AUX input. It has pretty decent volume output and good range. Also it allows you to use 87.7 and 87.9 which are mostly empty, where as most Belkins won't go below 88.1.
i bought one from DealExtreme a while ago cheap, and did the job but broke down after a while, so just make sure you buy a good device and you'll enjoy it.
spunker88 said:
I've had a few Belkins and found them to be too quit sounding (when you flip to another FM its a lot louder) and too low of range. I'm using a Satechi Soundfly right now, it can read from USB or SD card or be fed by AUX input. It has pretty decent volume output and good range. Also it allows you to use 87.7 and 87.9 which are mostly empty, where as most Belkins won't go below 88.1.
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Satechi Soundfly looks pretty cool, if I deside not to use my phone and use the USB cable (I have a 16gb card that is too slow for WP7 but, would work for music), it will show the name via RDS, that's pretty cool, I'll get the song names showing up on my cars navi screen.
I have a older Belkin one I use. I am always looking fir something better.
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Since I couldn't find a modulator locally, I did more research for my car and found pie.net.
Ended up getting this.
http://www.amazon.com/VWR-AUX-1998-...3XMK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335455435&sr=8-1
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I want a way to boost my cell service when I travel. I drive around a lot, and use my phone soo much, but I often have little to no signal. is there a micro USB antenna? or a way to use the giant 2 ton antenna you're driving around to give you more signal? looking for some way to boost this. ill 'Thank' anyone who can offer any suggestions!
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soraxd said:
I want a way to boost my cell service when I travel. I drive around a lot, and use my phone soo much, but I often have little to no signal. is there a micro USB antenna? or a way to use the giant 2 ton antenna you're driving around to give you more signal? looking for some way to boost this. ill 'Thank' anyone who can offer any suggestions!
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Try Wilson Sleek
If our phones still had external antennae, i'm sure there could possibly be something to use to boost the signal in some way, shape, or form. Unless there is some way for the device being used to be in direct contact with the antenna, it'd basically be about as useless as those stickers you used to be able to get that you stuck to the back of your phone or to the battery in your phone, and somehow they suckered people into thinking that would actually help.
elementaldragon said:
If our phones still had external antennae, i'm sure there could possibly be something to use to boost the signal in some way, shape, or form. Unless there is some way for the device being used to be in direct contact with the antenna, it'd basically be about as useless as those stickers you used to be able to get that you stuck to the back of your phone or to the battery in your phone, and somehow they suckered people into thinking that would actually help.
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you know plugging headphones into the phone work as an antenna for the FM Radio app? i wonder if a similar solution could be applied via AUX or Micro USB to hardwire into your car. it would depend on how the inside is setup. wonder if i took the phone apart i could solder a wire to it.. lol probably not a DIY project i wanna risk
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I have a very strong network signal outside my house or near my window. But inside my house the signal strength is very poor. Is there any external antenna to recieve strong signals.?? ( other than cell phone repeaters)
I live in india. Network- TATA DOCOMO
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Week Signal
ommon4u said:
I have a very strong network signal outside my house or near my window. But inside my house the signal strength is very poor. Is there any external antenna to recieve strong signals.?? ( other than cell phone repeaters)
I live in india. Network- TATA DOCOMO
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Don't know much about it but I think you need external devices to detect the slow range
some Siemens phones had on the back an antenna jack, with those yes you could enhance the signal with only an external antenna
Increase Signal?
5 Quick Ways to Boost Your Cell Phone:
1. A simple piece of wire
Very simple and cheap method using insulated wire.
2. Major boost using empty cans
This one got me from zero bars to three bars, in an area I never get a signal in. I keep this one in the trunk when the weather sucks. The additional wires I got on eBay for a few bucks each. Takes less than five minutes, looks stupid but works well.
3. The paper clip booster
This one didn't work as well as I had hoped, but it did give me an extra bar (which is great when you have zero bars). Good if you're in the office and need to use your cell, maybe for making one of those "personal" calls.
4. The Tesla coil effect
Hands down the easiest one I found. All you need is tape and those little twisty-ties you get with cheap garbage/sandwich bags. Worked better than the paper clip for me.
5. An old radio antenna
this year the mobile signal is weeker than ever. When I wanna upload an picture or share sth with friends. it is not available. uhhh
Did you try to root your phone and check any cutom ROM? In my case custom ROM gave me much better signal on my SGS3
Good luck!
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How to increase mobile signal Samsung Galaxy S plus i9001 CyanogenMod 9.
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is it possible that the surrounding houses are aluminum sided."
if so the signal is getting bounced rather than absorbed. this creates whats called "signal bounce confusion"
I have try this trick with the cable.the phone choose the best signal between internal and external antenna.and of course it will get better signal from external antenna. it works but you must use a soft wire...the second time I did it I try to use a wire from ethernet cable...I broke the clips inside and the internal antenna is broken..now I use the external antenna with a soft wire from usb cable. So becarefully when try thinks like that.
It's great for your method, thank you.