I was given Widgetlocker by a friend (He gave me a 10$ Google Play Gift Card) yesterday. I noticed that Widgetlocker doesnt have a Pattern or Pin Lock option on it, and I get my stock lockscreen on my Galaxy S3 immediately afterwards, which seems incredibly redundant.
Don't get me wrong, the application is great, and I haven't had any issues aside from this so far.
Is there any way to force Widgetlocker to use a pattern or pin lock? Or alternatively is there a way to add a camera shortcut on the stock touchwiz lockscreen?
You probably have to disable the stock lock screen for it to not show up after, or maybe a setting on widget locker, and I think the only way to get a camera shortcut is to use ripple on stock lockscreen
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serio22 said:
You probably have to disable the stock lock screen for it to not show up after, or maybe a setting on widget locker, and I think the only way to get a camera shortcut is to use ripple on stock lockscreen
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Well that bites. I suppose I will live without it, Its not like it takes me more than 1-5 seconds to draw my pattern/pin anyway.
Its really like that for a reason.
If you can access the camera w/o using your pin/pw/pattern, it makes using the security features pointless.
From camera you can open gallery/messaging and from there you can get to your contacts and dialer. So if someone stole or found your phone they'd have unsecured, easy access to most of your stuff.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Its really like that for a reason.
If you can access the camera w/o using your pin/pw/pattern, it makes using the security features pointless.
From camera you can open gallery/messaging and from there you can get to your contacts and dialer. So if someone stole or found your phone they'd have unsecured, easy access to most of your stuff.
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I use lightning launcher ultimate (which has lock screen) and after clicking an app, it displays the stock pattern screen, then takes you to your shortcut, thereby security is still useful, choppy!
sonatamartica said:
I use lightning launcher ultimate (which has lock screen) and after clicking an app, it displays the stock pattern screen, then takes you to your shortcut, thereby security is still useful, choppy!
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Actually WidgetLocker works this way too.
Enable pin/pattern on phone and ensure the option in Widget Locker to disable the stock screen is not checked.
Completely remove the swipe to unlock button and don't replace it. You'll have a blank WidgerLocker lock screen with a clock.
Long press and add apps and widgets. Change security to lock screen immediately. Power power button. Click a widget on homescreen. You'll be prompted to enter the pin/pattern! You have access to all your apps on the locker screen, with pin/pattern security simply by disabling the slide to unlock button. You're welcome (albeit months and months late.)
DocHoliday77 said:
Its really like that for a reason.
If you can access the camera w/o using your pin/pw/pattern, it makes using the security features pointless.
From camera you can open gallery/messaging and from there you can get to your contacts and dialer. So if someone stole or found your phone they'd have unsecured, easy access to most of your stuff.
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I realize this thread is old but I feel compelled to contribute my .02 for the benefit of those like me who's search for help on this topic leads them here.
It seems to me the OP is simply pointing out the fact that Widgetlocker doesn't offer a PIN or pattern unlock feature like those found in most other lock screen replacement apps. IMHO this a CATASTROPHIC omission by the devs of what I believe is an otherwise-outstanding app! I mean it -- I LOVE this app! The fact that something so simple and avoidable is keeping me from being able to use it pains me gravely. To be clear, yes, it appears WL can be set to give deference to system PIN/pattern security as mentioned in another post but someone please explain to me how doing this doesn't defeat the point of installing the app in the first place!
I agree that there are potential security concerns in having lock screen shortcuts bypassing the pin/pattern lock; I however disagree that such a thing necessarily "makes using security features pointless." Let's be frank. Some of us have much bigger security concerns than worrying about who might be snooping through our pictures or contact lists, but even in the event that such things are the aggregate of one's sensitive "stuff" there are ways to achieve essential functionality without turning over the keys to one's deepest, darkest secrets. One could, for example, simply download a basic camera app without a gallery link, or a standalone dialer app with a null (or decoy) contact list. With a bit of hackery one needn't even give up the comfort or utility of full-feature apps in this regard. Failing this, there are still plenty of other apps one might want quick and unfettered access to which do NOT pose an inherent security risk (i.e. music player, flashlight, weather, stopwatch/timer, calculator, universal remote, fruit ninja, etc.). What's the point of having shortcuts/widgets on the lock screen if you have to unlock your device to access them? Why not just use the shortcuts/widgets on the home screen if you're going to go to the trouble to make an effort commensurate to that end anyhow?
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Maybe an odd question.
Is it possible to have the slide to unlock screen available if you use a patter to unlock the screen?
I know if you use a pin the slide to unlock still shows.
SilentSummer said:
Maybe an odd question.
Is it possible to have the slide to unlock screen available if you use a patter to unlock the screen?
I know if you use a pin the slide to unlock still shows.
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Not on an aosp rom, no. On a sense rom you can. Just remove the htclockscreen.apk, and you'll be left with the vanilla unlock screen. If you have a pattern enabled, it still comes up after unlocking the slider. (Again, only on a sense rom)
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Not on an aosp rom, no. On a sense rom you can. Just remove the htclockscreen.apk, and you'll be left with the vanilla unlock screen. If you have a pattern enabled, it still comes up after unlocking the slider. (Again, only on a sense rom)
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Well that bites lol.
Thanks for the info.
SilentSummer said:
Well that bites lol.
Thanks for the info.
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I agree. I like having the lockscreen and pattern unlock. That way I can use music controls on the lockscreen, and still keep my phone locked with the pattern.
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k2buckley said:
I agree. I like having the lockscreen and pattern unlock. That way I can use music controls on the lockscreen, and still keep my phone locked with the pattern.
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I'll see if I can't get it added as a feature request for CM.
Try widget locker. Any widget you can add to the regular home screen can be added to the lock screen, including music controls, etc.
I have mine set up such that all the apps I normally use are available from the lockscreen. This way, don't have to multiple tap to get to them.
Don't mind the duplicate calculators..
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4986/20110421152112.png
gpz1100 said:
Try widget locker. Any widget you can add to the regular home screen can be added to the lock screen, including music controls, etc.
I have mine set up such that all the apps I normally use are available from the lockscreen. This way, don't have to multiple tap to get to them.
Don't mind the duplicate calculators..
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4986/20110421152112.png
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Does that cause any lag? When I tried widget locker a long time ago, it lagged. My phone on wake up.
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The only lag I notice is when booting, and possibly the first wakeup after sleep after a reboot. There after, it seems to wake up relatively fast (1/2 second?) Is it an instant wake, no, but I can live with waiting a split moment to have the functionality of not having swipe then tap, or swipe then tap twice to get to something.
Like you, I tried it some months back and thought it was a piece of garbage. I was reluctant to try it again, but got spoiled with CM7's multiple sliders on the lock screen. Having returned back to sense for other reasons, I missed that functionality.
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I'll see if I can't get it added as a feature request for CM.
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There is already a feature request for this in CM. look here:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=3050
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The only lag I notice is when booting, and possibly the first wakeup after sleep after a reboot. There after, it seems to wake up relatively fast (1/2 second?) Is it an instant wake, no, but I can live with waiting a split moment to have the functionality of not having swipe then tap, or swipe then tap twice to get to something.
Like you, I tried it some months back and thought it was a piece of garbage. I was reluctant to try it again, but got spoiled with CM7's multiple sliders on the lock screen. Having returned back to sense for other reasons, I missed that functionality.
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Thanks for the response. I may consider giving it another try.
If you plan on using this with cm7, keep in mind, actual widgets on the lock screen only work with the standard system theme. With other themes, the widgets disappear after a reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13094660&postcount=1168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955219
It's stupid little bugs like this that annoy the crap out of me. So much for final I can't stand the green, so I just have shortcuts on the lock screen. In fact, I could almost tolerate the green, but it changes the theme of the status bar pull down widget to a light grey instead of a more black.
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There is already a feature request for this in CM. look here:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=3050
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Yea, I saw that yesterday.
I'd like to jump straight from the lock screen to certain apps (ie camera, email). Some downloads (and MIUI) allow this.
But all those I've tried also compromise security by allowing immediate access without pin code or pattern.
S, my question - do any quick-app-access lock screens also allow for pattern or other security, to prevent thieves getting in to my phone?
try widget locker!
it is AWESOME!
you can have password\pattern after the slider, another useful thing that u can place widgets on your lock screen
Question about widget locker does it cause battery drainage I recall someone before saying it did?
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No problems with battery drainage here. Been using WL for months
Widget Locker requires two steps.
I would like to see app shortcuts and security unified by drawing app icons in my security pattern.
Come on.
The only thing I miss about iOS is the ability to preview my txts/emails without unlocking the phone even when I had a password. ICS doesn't allow this unless when you disable security with is obviously a bad idea. Any one knows how to work around this?
Not trolling, but isn't security on your lock screen supposed to protect your information? If you opt to have your info (emails, texts, etc.) displayed on your lock screen, then it renders any security measures on your device useless.
I recently came across an app that did this, but can't for the life of me remember which it was. If it comes back, I'll let you know - but you could always search...
Agree. iOS is unsecured and it is nonsense to display pop-up alerts about my personal notifications while my phone is security locked. If you really want them you may try 3rd party apps like Friendcaster for Facebook and Handcent SMS.
I use widgetlocker. I can pull my notification bar down while the screen is locked and go straight into an app with it. Also you can change the crap out of the lock screen if you want.
https://market.android.com/details?...DEsImNvbS50ZXNsYWNvaWxzdy53aWRnZXRsb2NrZXIiXQ..
I'm using the latest CM9 KANG build and it has support for this.
It doesn't need to display personal information. It only needs to show what types of notifications you have. Personally, I don't care that much if someone reads my new emails. For messages and IM, it only needs to say you have a message from X. The rest of my notifications are not at all personal.
I tried Widget locker but didn't like it.
I'll definitely try CM9.
Thanks!
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I use widgetlocker. I can pull my notification bar down while the screen is locked and go straight into an app with it.
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You can do this with stock locker also..
Indeed, you don't need a custom Rom, third party app, mod, or whatever.
You can just pull your notification screen down when your GN is locked. That is a standard function in ICS.
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You can do this with stock locker also..
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This only works with slide to unlock, if password code protected you can't drag down the notification bar(which the OP seems to want).
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Since I couldn't find a solution I disabled security all together. This feature, especially with slide to costume apps added with AOKP is just too good to not use. I installed avast anti-theft and will lock my phone if it falls into the wrong hands.
BTW I recommend avast mobile security. It's free and has MUCH more options that seekdroid and where's my droid.
I was thinking it would be nice to have full apps as options for the lock screen rather than just widgets. Just like I can pull up the camera from the lock screen by swiping to the left, I would like to choose an application for swiping to the right. For example I use the Google Play Music app a lot and would like to access it without having to (pattern/pin/etc) unlock my phone every time. I feel like it would be a useful feature.
What does everyone think?
PS. I can put up screenshots/images of the idea if my description is not clear.
Then you risk giving access to that app to anybody who picks up the phone, which may not be a big deal to some people. Even though people SHOULD realize that, some wont, and they would complain. It would then be called a "security issue".
I understand that but it would be up to the user's discretion what app they put there. I wouldn't care if people had access to my music app, just like I don't care about the camera app. Furthermore it would be nice if it was natively supported by Android so that app developers could implement settings for how apps behave when on the lock screen. This way we can curb some of the security issues by having the ability to disable certain features/sections of said app.
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I was thinking it would be nice to have full apps as options for the lock screen rather than just widgets. Just like I can pull up the camera from the lock screen by swiping to the left, I would like to choose an application for swiping to the right. For example I use the Google Play Music app a lot and would like to access it without having to (pattern/pin/etc) unlock my phone every time. I feel like it would be a useful feature.
What does everyone think?
PS. I can put up screenshots/images of the idea if my description is not clear.
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To hell with apps on lockscreen, lets put apps to buttons !
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At what point does it cease to be a lockscreen anymore? I'd love a lockscreen with all of my apps, widgets and even access to the app drawer... Oh wait...
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I thought that 4.4.2 was properly implementing the Lockscreen widgets where the access to things like Camera is provided so that you can quickly record a photo/video without having to enter your PIN or pattern but when you need to actually see those images, you will be asked to enter PIN or pattern. That's how it works in all phones (at least my wife's HTC One).
How come we can not get this feature in S4? I thought this is what they fixed in 4.4.2 but I am still not able to select Lockscreen widgets if I use PIN or pattern.
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I thought that 4.4.2 was properly implementing the Lockscreen widgets where the access to things like Camera is provided so that you can quickly record a photo/video without having to enter your PIN or pattern but when you need to actually see those images, you will be asked to enter PIN or pattern. That's how it works in all phones (at least my wife's HTC One).
How come we can not get this feature in S4? I thought this is what they fixed in 4.4.2 but I am still not able to select Lockscreen widgets if I use PIN or pattern.
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not sure about pin or pattern, but i have a camera icon in bottom right of my screen and it opens straight to camera...
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not sure about pin or pattern, but i have a camera icon in bottom right of my screen and it opens straight to camera...
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You see that icon only because you are not using the secure access lock like a PIN, password or pattern lock.
One of the advertised features of the 4.4.2 on Samsung S4 was to bring the Camera icon to the Lockscreen. Wasn't it?
devsk said:
You see that icon only because you are not using the secure access lock like a PIN, password or pattern lock.
One of the advertised features of the 4.4.2 on Samsung S4 was to bring the Camera icon to the Lockscreen. Wasn't it?
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Technically they DID bring it to the lockscreen. You just have to have your lock screen set on a specific unlock method. It's actually kind of obvious why the camera icon is only on the swipe method. All the other methods require extra security and a bigger layout for the number pad/keyboard/and pattern circles. Plus if you're going to have that kind of extra security in locking your phone, it's dumb to be able to bypass that with a camera widget. Somebody can get ahold of your phone and load the camera up without even unlocking the device and easily go through your gallery. And who knows you might be able to get to your homescreen by hitting home from within the camera app after loading it. Then the person has full access to your phone.
Personally I don't see the big deal of 4.4 having a camera icon on the lockscreen. You were always able to add shortcuts to your lockscreen so why not just add your camera app to one of those shortcuts? Meh.
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Technically they DID bring it to the lockscreen. You just have to have your lock screen set on a specific unlock method. It's actually kind of obvious why the camera icon is only on the swipe method. All the other methods require extra security and a bigger layout for the number pad/keyboard/and pattern circles. Plus if you're going to have that kind of extra security in locking your phone, it's stupid to be able to bypass that with a camera widget. Somebody can get ahold of your phone and load the camera up without even unlocking the device and easily go through your gallery.
Personally I don't see the big deal of 4.4 having a camera icon on the lockscreen. You were always able to add shortcuts to your lockscreen so why not just add your camera app to one of those shortcuts? Meh.
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Wait...I think you are confused. The ability to add widgets to the lockscreen was always there since 4.2. You just had to move to this insecure method of "swipe to unlock". This is not new in 4.4.2.
What was supposed to be new in 4.4.2 update for Samsung TW was what has been a feature in almost all phones since 4.2, and that is to do it securely i.e. allow opening the camera app and allow to take photos and record video but don't provide access to the gallery or the phone. When the user wants to access anything inside the phone, he/she has to enter the PIN/password/pattern. That's how it worked in any sane phone circa 2012/13.
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Wait...I think you are confused. The ability to add widgets to the lockscreen was always there since 4.2. You just had to move to this insecure method of "swipe to unlock". This is not new in 4.4.2.
What was supposed to be new in 4.4.2 update for Samsung TW was what has been a feature in almost all phones since 4.2, and that is to do it securely i.e. allow opening the camera app and allow to take photos and record video but don't provide access to the gallery or the phone. When the user wants to access anything inside the phone, he/she has to enter the PIN/password/pattern. That's how it worked in any sane phone circa 2012/13.
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Yeah I am aware it's been available since 4.2. I get what you're saying now, my bad.
If you are rooted, you can try an Xposed module called Samsung Multiple Widgets. This allows you to access the camera if you are on a PIN unlock screen. I've had success on 4.3. The module, for me, isn't working correctly on 4.4.2. You can try it yourself.
Vigz said:
If you are rooted, you can try an Xposed module called Samsung Multiple Widgets. This allows you to access the camera if you are on a PIN unlock screen. I've had success on 4.3. The module, for me, isn't working correctly on 4.4.2. You can try it yourself.
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That module is broken and its dev has been saying "anytime" now for sometime. He is a busy guy! So, I don't expect that to change.
That was the reason why I was excited about KK update for TW, hoping that Samsung will finally do it. But alas, no luck!