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[Q] codefireX problems

I have installed the rom of cfx_ace-4.2-BR11 & cfx_ace-4.2-SR1 and install all my apps, change my wallpaper and stuff, butt when I reboot my phone it resets to first installation (lose my wallpaper, my apps, and settings). Can someone help me with this? I really like this ROM.
I use a HTC Desire HD.

Did you a Fullwipe before flashing the ROM?

L3moon said:
Did you a Fullwipe before flashing the ROM?
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Yes I did full wipe, dalvek & cache

Download again. Flash rom. Reboot. Wait a few minutes. Do your settings, reboot, flash gapps, reboot.
Technically, it doesn't really matter in what order you do it (I believe it so), some people swear by x or y method. In short, you should be able to flash the rom and gapps without needing to reboot in between and without loosing anything. It's odd that you are. After flashing both of those then download your apps, that is, if you use gapps.
Sent from a dream.

Tworan said:
Yes I did full wipe, dalvek & cache
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Dalvik and cache is not a full wipe. A full wipe is system, data, and cache.

Yes i know, tried it still doesnt work. Installed another rom that One Works fine, going to try and reinstal the rom this weekend.
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i wonder why when certain features are working on one release, some of those features can get problem in the next release?
what happened during the firmware/rom writing process?

yauchildchew said:
i wonder why when certain features are working on one release, some of those features can get problem in the next release?
what happened during the firmware/rom writing process?
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Things just break sometimes. It's not as easy as it seems to make a ROM with so many features by oneself. If you're talking about GPS not working since SR1, that specific issue was because synergye's source code hosting site BitBucket merged some of his code together and messed things up, and he had to sort that out to get it fixed. That's what I remember reading. GPS and Bluetooth will be working in the next release.
@OP -
Something is messed up in your wiping/flashing process. No one else has the issues you described, save for the wallpaper resetting on restart sometimes. Like Teichopsia said, wipe properly and reflash ROM and gapps. You might think you're wiping correctly, but you might be doing it all wrong. There are many guides on what constitutes a full wipe. Report back here if it still occurs after full wiping and re-flashing properly.
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First time trying anything like this on a smart phone. So tonight I did a "back to factory" restart to get the phone like it was when I opened it out of the box. Then I read about this ROM, and thought why not. So I rooted my phone, then installed the ROM. Everything went fairly smooth, and got the ROM working. My problem is I dont have a google play store app now, and I didnt sync anything, so I dont have any of my apps, nor do I have the ability to download them again. Any help with this?

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First time trying anything like this on a smart phone. So tonight I did a "back to factory" restart to get the phone like it was when I opened it out of the box. Then I read about this ROM, and thought why not. So I rooted my phone, then installed the ROM. Everything went fairly smooth, and got the ROM working. My problem is I dont have a google play store app now, and I didnt sync anything, so I dont have any of my apps, nor do I have the ability to download them again. Any help with this?
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Flash gapps. Linked in cfX OP.

I do have the gapps file downloaded. I just dont know how to get it on my phone and working. I used a ROM manager app for the ROM file.

From recovery, same way you flashed the ROM (except for the full wipe part; don't wipe.)

bananagranola said:
From recovery, same way you flashed the ROM (except for the full wipe part; don't wipe.)
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Like I said, I didnt flash the ROM, I used a ROM manager app.I dont know how to get to the recovery screen. Could someone please help me out with a step by step. Keep in mind vol down + power doesnt put my phone into recovery

You need to use "adb reboot recovery" from your computer. There are several good adb guides; check the Ace Think Tank link in my signature. Then, depending on your recovery, find the option that says something like "install zip from sdcard." Use it, navigate to your gapps, and select it.

bananagranola said:
You need to use "adb reboot recovery" from your computer. There are several good adb guides; check the Ace Think Tank link in my signature. Then, depending on your recovery, find the option that says something like "install zip from sdcard." Use it, navigate to your gapps, and select it.
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Figured it out, thanks!
Next question is I downloaded Gmail App, and it wont sync with my account. I login, and everything but it just sits at the screen saying "Waiting for sync, your email will appear shortly" I've waited well over 10mins and no sync. Ideas?

Have you set up your account in Settings? If you reboot between flashing the ROM and gapps you need to do that manually; it doesn't show a first boot thing.

bananagranola said:
Have you set up your account in Settings? If you reboot between flashing the ROM and gapps you need to do that manually; it doesn't show a first boot thing.
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It appears I didnt. You solved the problem! Thanks a bunch. Sorry for all the questions.

Ok last question, will adobe flash player work with this ROM? If so how can I get it. I search the market and the app isnt there. And its not on my phone either

4.2 in general doesn't support flash. You could try searching for the apk and sideloading it. Make sure you enable installation from unknown sources in Settings - Security.

sashank said:
Things just break sometimes. It's not as easy as it seems to make a ROM with so many features by oneself. If you're talking about GPS not working since SR1, that specific issue was because synergye's source code hosting site BitBucket merged some of his code together and messed things up, and he had to sort that out to get it fixed. That's what I remember reading. GPS and Bluetooth will be working in the next release.
@OP -
Something is messed up in your wiping/flashing process. No one else has the issues you described, save for the wallpaper resetting on restart sometimes. Like Teichopsia said, wipe properly and reflash ROM and gapps. You might think you're wiping correctly, but you might be doing it all wrong. There are many guides on what constitutes a full wipe. Report back here if it still occurs after full wiping and re-flashing properly.
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So, when fixing one thing, the process could probably break some working features.

[Q] Help! Black screen of nothingness after flashing AOKP ROM

Hi all,
I have a problem I'm hoping somebody can help me fix. I have a virgin mobile One V (CDMA) that I recently was trying to flash AOKP's Dec 5th ROM to, but long story short after following all the instructions to a T when I reboot after sending the boot.img via command promp from the ADB-contained folder, the screen is just black with the back light on and does nothing after showing the HTC boot screen with developer info below in red.
Here is what I have:
HTC One V from Virgin, unlocked bootloader
TWRP 2.3.3.0 for CDMA
aokp_primoc_unofficial_Dec-05-12
gapps-jb-20121011-signed
boot.img from aokp folder
stock kernel
Here are the strange things I notice, not sure if they mean anything but
- When going into Hboot upon entering the bootloader area, it searches for different images, all of which come back saying Not Found!, something like PK76DIAG
- When doing factory reset, it says Failed because
Using rm -rf on .android_secure
Unable to mount '/sd-ext'
Trying to perform a restore which was backed up in TWRP as well results in the same thing. The only difference is that the virgin mobile splash screen comes on briefly, but after that goes back to black and never boots up.
I hope this isn't a serious problem since everything was working fine right up until I decided to try and flash the new ROM! I've tried everything I can find on the issue but nothing I could find matches my exact problems, sorry if I missed it and this problem was mentioned before.
Also, my radio is still at version 1.00.00.0521_2, so it's not the newer radio issue.
Thanks to all for your help in advance

Relax, nothings happened to your phone, this is caused only because you did not do proper research before trying out something new.
Anyways, refer to this nice noob friendly guide by vibin..follow it step-by-step and you'll soon have a new phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34236649
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biiishplz said:
Hi all,
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OK hi here we go....
1st. DEC 5th build of aokp does not work, it has "black screen of death issue" use the Nov. 18th (I believe) build or even better go to my port....provisions and install
2nd..... twrp 2.3 and higher has that problem of not factory wipe use the one in our thread
3rd.... sdcard will not mount for wipe as if it did it would wipe your sdcard and u would really be in trouble.
4th... u have to re flash a ICS kernel boot IMG, aokp is a jelly bean ROM. if reverting back to stock use jmz stock based image in less u have stock one backed up. jelly bean and ice cram sandwich stuff do not mix.
So to fix use right ROM and right kernel or use back up with the right kernel. And as always read the thread for these warnings so this will not happen

[Q] CM10 A7 ongoing boot issue

I have an ongoing issue with Galaxy W phone and CM.
The problem is that the phone spontaneously decides to not boot.
I had run CM10 from first Alpha, and on a couple of occasions it would, after several days or weeks use, stay on the CM spinning logo, and refuse to go to interface.
I got around this by keeping a couple of Nandroids handy and just restored them when the boot issue occurred.
On subsequent fresh install, I ran for a couple of weeks with virtually no app installations, to see if something I was running was causing the issue. Turns out no relationship.
I have just flashed Alpha 7 of CM 10 and now its doing it again. This is a fresh install.
I re-downloaded the ROM from the second mirror, and tried flashing with that, but get the same result.
Is it possible the flash memory in my phone is faulty? On a PC if you install an OS - fresh install - and it wont boot, generally its either RAM or HDD. Given this is a recurring issue, I wonder if its the phone, rather than the OS thats causing the problem - as I have tried with several of the Alphas and both download locations of the most recent Alpha and its still happening.
Can anyone suggest?
Is there a chkdsk option for phone flash memory?
thanks
Jim
[edit] just installed CM9 (last beta) and its doing the same thing - stuck at boot animation and will not get to desktop.
Anyone? Any ideas how to fix this?

Sv: [Q] CM10 A7 ongoing boot issue
Flash stock rom and see if the problem still exists. If not, flash cm again. If it does, get a new phone.
Sent through time and space from my s3mini.

16kzx81 said:
I have an ongoing issue with Galaxy W phone and CM.
The problem is that the phone spontaneously decides to not boot.
I had run CM10 from first Alpha, and on a couple of occasions it would, after several days or weeks use, stay on the CM spinning logo, and refuse to go to interface.
I got around this by keeping a couple of Nandroids handy and just restored them when the boot issue occurred.
On subsequent fresh install, I ran for a couple of weeks with virtually no app installations, to see if something I was running was causing the issue. Turns out no relationship.
I have just flashed Alpha 7 of CM 10 and now its doing it again. This is a fresh install.
I re-downloaded the ROM from the second mirror, and tried flashing with that, but get the same result.
Is it possible the flash memory in my phone is faulty? On a PC if you install an OS - fresh install - and it wont boot, generally its either RAM or HDD. Given this is a recurring issue, I wonder if its the phone, rather than the OS thats causing the problem - as I have tried with several of the Alphas and both download locations of the most recent Alpha and its still happening.
Can anyone suggest?
Is there a chkdsk option for phone flash memory?
thanks
Jim
[edit] just installed CM9 (last beta) and its doing the same thing - stuck at boot animation and will not get to desktop.
Anyone? Any ideas how to fix this?
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What do you mean by clean install?
wipe data and cache?
Try to format /system /data /cache and /sdcard (backup your internal storage first)

MiguelPT said:
What do you mean by clean install?
wipe data and cache?
Try to format /system /data /cache and /sdcard (backup your internal storage first)
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Thanks guys, very much for your replies
By "clean install" I have gone to wipe menu of CWM and wiped everything, then CM with wipes, then Gapps.
Ok so I need to try to flash with stock ROM. I had considered that but could not find an Australian ROM in the I8150 section of the Forum. Can anyone tell me where I can get one from?
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-- maybe its ok to flash with any English ROM - will achieve the same thing? - sorry if this is a dumb question - I just dont want to make the situation any worse

Try Removing all SD Card,SIM and battery. Then reinsert battery after 15 minutes and reflash the CM10/Stock ROM. It will boot up

miki2o said:
Try Removing all SD Card,SIM and battery. Then reinsert battery after 15 minutes and reflash the CM10/Stock ROM. It will boot up
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Ok. Thanks for the suggestion. I did that and its stuck on the Logo still. No change.

You can get stock ROM for Australian (Vodafone) from here http://www.hotfile.com/dl/187592956/3abb3c5/I8150TDULM1_I8150TVAULG1_VAU.zip.html

arya_ruby said:
You can get stock ROM for Australian (Vodafone) from here http://www.hotfile.com/dl/187592956/3abb3c5/I8150TDULM1_I8150TVAULG1_VAU.zip.html
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Thanks very much for the link I have downloaded it
So I noticed something else thats kinda weird.
When I go to /sdcard, its not showing the content of the sd card
So if I swap out the card, it still loads the same folder, not the stuff from the sd card I have inserted.
I have a few of these. All read fine in the PC, but the phone does not seem to recognise the files, as they dont change if I reboot with a different card/different content in.
/sdcard
Code:
../
.android_secure/
Android/
LOST.DIR/
RZR/
Video/
cm-10-2013~ancora-alpha7.zip
gapps-jb-~signed.zip
SD card contents when read from PC
Code:
I8150TDULM1_I8150TVAULG1_VAU.zip
Its as though it has a partition called /sdcard, and can't mount the content of the physical card itself. Anyone seen this before? Is there a way to re-partition internal memory?

16kzx81 said:
Thanks guys, very much for your replies
By "clean install" I have gone to wipe menu of CWM and wiped everything, then CM with wipes, then Gapps.
Ok so I need to try to flash with stock ROM. I had considered that but could not find an Australian ROM in the I8150 section of the Forum. Can anyone tell me where I can get one from?
- or -
-- maybe its ok to flash with any English ROM - will achieve the same thing? - sorry if this is a dumb question - I just dont want to make the situation any worse
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Just do full wipe you'll not wipe cwm!

My suggestion: Go the Pristine™ Way.
(thread in the General forum)
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arya_ruby said:
You can get stock ROM for Australian (Vodafone) from here http://www.hotfile.com/dl/187592956/3abb3c5/I8150TDULM1_I8150TVAULG1_VAU.zip.html
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I tried that zip, but it started to install and the phone shut down/restarted at beginning of install (just after wipes)
Can anyone else confirms this file actually works?
Is there a Tread source I can refer to?

pepoluan said:
My suggestion: Go the Pristine™ Way.
(thread in the General forum)
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Thanks for the suggestion. I tried but the problem persists.

wildfire s not booting

ok guys i have htc one x and my nephew just got a wildfire s and tried to root and rom it.
so heres where im at. ive flashed this rom but im stuck at the htc logo.
he installed the latest CWM for this phone 5.0.2.8. then full wipe and installed a few roms but none worked and then i got here.
with my one x i have to flash boot.img but as far as i can see thats not the issue here??
can anyone help?
It's a gsm wfs with a sim slot. I'm assuming the next step is to install the correct RUU for the phone right?
the phone is stuck at the htc logo
Can someone possibly point me to the correct RUU? Its a UK phone that was on Tesco/o2 mobile and I cant find the right RUU.
Any help is greatly appreciated

Nothing??
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Seriously no help at all????
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Oh well
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So I get told of four posting in a rom thread and get told to post here and I get zero help. Ffs
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Usually when you're stuck on the HTC logo it's because the ROM you are trying to flash also needs the kernel flashed, which you have to be S-off to do and the developer you got the ROM(s) from should have provided it. You were very general, but I presume a full wipe was cache, dalvik-cache, data/factory reset, and (optional), battery stats? Are you just plain stuck, can't do a factory reset and/or didn't make a backup before trying the ROMs? I was going to flash this ROM at one time and he gives some pretty good instructions to follow...sounds like it might work for you. Better than staring at the HTC logo, eh?!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ht=what+files+can+i+remove+from+my+wildfire+s

Thanks for the reply. I can get to recovery but I can't install anything as recovery can't seem to find the internal storage.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 4

Most recoveries are going to look on the external storage, the actual sd card. Can you move your ROM to that and give it a try? Just to save time, I'll say I'm figurin' the sd card is formatted (FAT 32) and if there's a problem seeing that you might have to go into, "Mounts and Storage" and mount the sd card. I'm in the middle of a movie and will get back after, if you have another question I can help with. Hope it works.

ok so i finally got CWM to see the sdcard and i installed a rom and flashed the boot.img.
now the phone just reboots into recovery. what the hell is wrong with this dam phone????!?!?!

So far we've been successful with the, "One step back and two steps forward" approach so:
You extracted the boot.img file from the ROM zip to your PC for use after and then installed the ROM, rebooted the phone into recovery>>fastboot, hooked up to the PC in a command prompt and changed directory to where you have the boot.img and the adb/fastboot command files and at the command prompt typed: fastboot flash boot boot.img
Typically you would then type: fastboot erase cache, or back in recovery wipe the cache and reboot to find the ROM (slowly) booting for the 1st time.
I'm a one step at a time person (so I know what worked). So if all that's true, and it's still stuck in a recovery loop then I'd try wiping cache again and dalvik-cache and rebooting.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest one of two things:
1. Start over and I don't mean at htcdev, but wiping cache, dalvik, and data...install ROM, flash boot.img, wipe cache reboot...or
2. We can go over all the steps (as briefly as possible for both our sakes) and I'll say why: one time I was writing a macro and it just wouldn't work, after 3 days of spending too much time on it each day I asked someone else to look at it and he found I had missed a slash or used a comma instead of a semi-colon or some one simple thing. So it wouldn't hurt to see if there was one little thing skipped.
Lastly for now - if you post again, whatever you post, just for my curiosity tell me which (compatible with the Wildfire S) ROM your wanting to use.

First of all I just want to thank you for trying to help.
I did those steps perfectly and they've always worked with my HTC one x but no dice with this wildfire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206780
That's the ROM I'm trying to get to boot.
I really want to fix this phone for my nephew but its not looking good.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I know how it is...we all get fixed on wanting one thing and then intent on making it work.
I did a quick look at the page for your intended ROM and first thought, aha...in the instructions to install, the wipe file he provides seems to indicate for a marvelc in the name, so does it wipe all it should on a gsm WFS; but, then he's got that link to the ROM for a marvel c(dma); anyway I did a quick search of the thread (there are 119 pages!) for, "Reboots into recovery" and found this (among others):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2206780&highlight=reboots+into+recovery&page=102
I do see where there was a rebooting into recovery problem with this ROM and a fix was applied in July 2013. I think the link above is to the, "fixed" ROM (hopefully for GSM WFS) but I'm not going to claim that as fact; again, I just took a quick look between my morning news readings and did not read around the problem or, about Lizards patch.
We could go deeper like formatting partitions, but since he has provided a wipe script and there's so much info there...well, I'm not dumping you, but I am thinking researching there might get you more specific results since we've pretty much been going through the generic version of flashing ROMS. What do you think?

ok i read the entire thread and flashed all the fixes etc but no dice. however i did flash a different rom altogether and now everything seems to be working fine!!!!!
dont know why that never occurred to me before!
i must say thank you for all your help. it is very much appreciated

now for some strange reason the original rom now works !!!!!!!!!

For as long as I"ve been fooling around with electronic devices, it often still just seems like, "PFM" sometimes; and, I don't know how many times I've done the right thing over and over and over and then just given up and set it aside only to pick it up again a day or two later and then everything goes like it should...and not doing anything different!
I'm glad you got everything going again, and I'm sure you just want to get back to enjoying it, but I'm curious to know (along with anyone else that might be following) what ROM finally worked, and then you ended up going back to which, "Original" ROM, stock?

I hear you on that. So many times I've had to work on systems for hours then magically I'll do something and it works.
What I did was flash another custom ROM which was unofficial cm10.2 it's on the main page made by owl. That booted up fine but I wasn't happy with that ROM so I flashed the one that I've been trying to flash, marvellous cm10, the one you helped me with.
The only thing I did differently was flash the boot. IMG after I flashed the ROM , I usually flash the boot image first on my one x.
And that's about it.
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I clicked a thanks (and thank you for yours). I enjoyed the exchange and glad you've got it going. The Wildfire S is a great phone, especially for me (although I have my SIM in another phone now) and hopefully your nephew, because it needs to be managed, tuned, tweaked, etc. which is what I love to do and hopefully your nephew will too and keep at it now that you got him off to a good start.

good start yes, but i have to fix the mistakes!! lol

Do you know where u can get int2ext?
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You caught me right at the end of a movie I was watching!
I've always been happy with Link2SD, but you can't beat moving all of data to SD.
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124
also, this is an easy way to get init.d if you don't have that...I think it's needed for int2ext:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710980
Have fun!

[Q] Sense 4.5 Keyboard on ViperDHD 2.2.0

I was wondering if it is possible to use the Sense 4.5/4+ keyboard on my Inspire 4G running ICS? I've been using a One X with JB, but since it died and I'm stuck with this phone for now, I'd really like to have the other keyboard back since this one is driving me nuts!
Thanks in advance

Oops, never mind.

Xperia Keyboard
Hey, I know it's not quite what you were looking for, but the Xperia keyboard is worth a try.
I'm in the same boat as you, where I'm temporarily stuck on the DHD since my BB Z10 took a swim.
The BB has a fantastic keyboard, so I was suffering quite a bit until I remembered my days with my Xperia S, and its own great keyboard, which is almost as fast. Working great on AoCP 6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818442
The link to the ICS (Xperia S) version is dead, so here's another if you're interested...
http://d-h.st/Tri
Definitely worth a try imo.
As always, don't forget a nandroid backup, just in case!
As for the newer Sense keyboards, I just did some pretty decent research and it doesn't seem like anyone has been able to get them working on older Sense/non-Sense roms.

gnashville said:
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Thanks for the reply! I'll try that keyboard, sounds interesting to say the least. I looked around before I posted too, and it seems like the new version of ViperDHD may include the Sense 4.5 keyboard. But since I'd really like to avoid having to flash another rom, I was hoping it was just an .apk or something along those lines. Ah well, I'll survive for now...miss the screen on my One X so badly though!

Went into recovery, flashed the zip...and now my phone will not boot. It just sits on the "desire HD" screen, pulsing endlessly. Any ideas?

Did you... do a nandroid backup like I suggested?
This shouldn't have affected the system, as it only flashes the keyboard apks (Chinese and English), the engine into /lib and their language files into /usr.
You can try flushing the cache and dalvik cache.
Did you do any other changes in or out of recovery?

gnashville said:
Did you... do a nandroid backup like I suggested?
This shouldn't have affected the system, as it only flashes the keyboard apks (Chinese and English), the engine into /lib and their language files into /usr.
You can try flushing the cache and dalvik cache.
Did you do any other changes in or out of recovery?
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Unfortunately, I went full retard and neglected the nandroid...after all, it's only a keyboard...yeah, that worked well. That was what I thought as well, the only odd thing I saw is that /system is 100% full (found this when I was looking for the files it flashed, and not finding them. Got a cp error when using adb shell, the partition was full. Deleted a few things, copied the files...but still no dice). I have tried flushing cache+dalvik, repeatedly, TWRP says it succeeds but nothing changes when trying to boot.
Thanks for replying so quickly!

That's really unfortunate. The only thing I could think of short of wiping and flashing is maybe booting a CWM based recovery and trying cache and dalvik wipe through that. I've had problems with TWRP recoveries doing weird things with partitions.
An easy obvious one would be the recovery1.img file found in the rooting and s-off kit (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221039)
I'd assume with the fact that you're on a custom rom and know how to flash that this would be fairly easy, but just in case...
If you have any trouble with booting to bootloader, I actually found out that our device is already accessable as an adb device when off and plugged in, which is pretty cool, so a simple
adb reboot bootloader
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in cmd with your phone turned off and plugged in will get you there. Super useful for my device since my volume - button is shot.
In case you didn't know, if you shift+right click in explorer while in a folder, you have the option to open a cmd window already set to that directory.
having the recovery1.img in the same folder as adb and fastboot,
fastboot boot recover1.img
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Hopefully that works?
If not, I guess now would be as good a time as any to try that new version of Viper.
Good Luck!