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What are people using for tethering since root isn't available yet?
Ive used the method described in the following thread. The best part about how it works is that it offers infrastructure mode, so I can tether my Galaxy Tab without any problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079340
Note: See post #6
I heard that doing the ##778 edit causes a loss of phone data while tethered to the PC. Meaning data on the phone is dead but the pc has data. Is this true? After the edit do you just use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app?
Yes it's true, I've tried it.
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Meltdown03 said:
Yes it's true, I've tried it.
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But do you lose data on the phone while tethering? Also do you use the stock vzw app?
The answer to both questions is yes. I actually hadn't noticed it before but on my Dinc2 the signal meter only shows 1X instead of 3G when I activate the hotspot option. I guess I don't find that all too terrible as the only time I'm tethered I'm either using my tablet or my laptop.
Once the change is made, the hotspot app functions like it would if you were subscribed to the service.
What why would you do the hack if you only get 1x when tethering, that would be crazy slow.
Oops, My mistake. It appears my earlier reply was a load of crap!
3G is still clearly visible with hotspot enabled. Just ran a speed test on my Galaxy Tab. Downloads ranged from 473-329kbps with uploads between 303-193kbps.
So just to clarify. You did the following edits.
-in edit mode you will open 'security' and 'm.ip default profile' in turn. each time you look for the only entry containing "dun", as in:
<your actual phone number>@dun.vzw3g.com
edit out the "dun." so it looks like
<your actual phone number>@vzw3g.com
And you then use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app. After you enable the hotspot can you browse using the phone also? Or does internet on the phone stop working.
I think you're right, clarification is certainly in order.
Yes I simply removed dun from both of those locations and now use the standard, VZW included, hotspot app.
The phone cannot access the internet while tethering is enabled. Certainly a sacrifice, but from what I've seen so are the apps available with a rooted device which from my understanding cannot create an infrastructure hotspot, only ad-hoc.
Yeah the phone data loss kinda is a downfall. But I have an infrastructure connection with wireless tether on incredible 1 just for your info. Some apps are lucky and give good connections. well loss of data is probably a sacrifice I will make. thanks
Seems to me that the only time this would really matter is if you're sharing your connection with friends while still using your phone for data. Is there something I'm missing? I can see it being a minor annoyance but something I'd personally never run into.
Just so you know...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/30/psa-using-an-unapproved-tether-app-on-your-verizon-device-expect-to-have-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
brocksdad said:
Just so you know...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/30/psa-using-an-unapproved-tether-app-on-your-verizon-device-expect-to-have-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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I'm just amazed it's taken the carriers as long as it has on this.
sk0t said:
I'm just amazed it's taken the carriers as long as it has on this.
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If the detection is at the app level (unauthorized), like the article suggests, the hack may still be under the radar for the time being since folks are probably using the authorized app pre-installed on their phone.
Is this app safe to use, thanks
tongphan said:
Is this app safe to use, thanks
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So :good:far so good my friend
tyshemi said:
So :good:far so good my friend
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my phone is not rooted, do i need to root my phone to use this app
tongphan said:
my phone is not rooted, do i need to root my phone to use this app
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The app is literally called, FoxFi (WiFi Tether w/o Root).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mb3hmaSJd
TheFiveDots said:
The app is literally called, FoxFi (WiFi Tether w/o Root).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mb3hmaSJd
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Lol this is very true
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I've been using Wifi Tether very occasionally, a few times a month maybe. A few days ago received message from ATT telling me that my unlimited plan is about to be changed if I don't call them.
So while I'm on phone with ATT pretending like I have no clue what they are talking about, the person I talked to gave me a list of about 10 apps that they can detect, one of them was FoxFi. Basically anything available at google play is no good...
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the person I talked to gave me a list of about 10 apps that they can detect, one of them was FoxFi. Basically anything available at google play is no good...
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That's certainly interesting information. I guess the question is, do they care only because you're on an unlimited plan, or will they give anyone trouble for even limited tethering?
Is it legal for them to do that? I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Pretty sure there is nothing in my contract about restricted apps....
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The app is not illegal to use. If you get caught they will force you onto a tethering g plan, but not before warning you first
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I'm curious, how would they detect which apps I have installed?
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Is there no privacy laws that protect me from warentless monitoring on my cell phone?
Samsung s3
jcejohnson said:
I'm curious, how would they detect which apps I have installed?
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I think it's more that they can detect patterns in tethering traffic that are not seen in standard mobile traffic, rather than knowing exactly which apps you have installed and are tethering with.
Keeping in mind I have no idea how this works (or if this approach would be legal), but it would be pretty simple to figure out based what content is frequently being accessed via your "mobile device". e.g. if your phone regularly contacts the Windows Update server, they may suspect you're tethering. Combined with some analysis of how you usually use data much more quickly and differently on a computer vs. a mobile, the patterns would become clear pretty quickly. I'm sure if you mapped out browsing traffic of 1 hour on a desktop vs. 1 hour on a mobile phone, they would look quite different for most people.
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I think it's more that they can detect patterns in tethering traffic that are not seen in standard mobile traffic, rather than knowing exactly which apps you have installed and are tethering with.
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OK, that makes more sense. I left my tin-foil hat at the cleaners and was worried that AT&T were sending their brain-rays into my head to determine what I've installed (e.g. -- that they have a deal with Google to get access to get a report of installed apps). While that could be true, I expect it is highly unlikely.
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Keeping in mind I have no idea how this works (or if this approach would be legal), but it would be pretty simple to figure out based what content is frequently being accessed via your "mobile device". e.g. if your phone regularly contacts the Windows Update server, they may suspect you're tethering. Combined with some analysis of how you usually use data much more quickly and differently on a computer vs. a mobile, the patterns would become clear pretty quickly. I'm sure if you mapped out browsing traffic of 1 hour on a desktop vs. 1 hour on a mobile phone, they would look quite different for most people.
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Indeed. But tethering my Android tablet for some bigger-screen browsing & such would't trip the sensors (or should I say "censors") with FoxFi's proxy mechanism. Like your Windows example, though, letting a friend tether their iDevice for a big app install might do so.
I beleive there are some proxies you can use to hide tethering but i have no idea as to how to find or implement them
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WIFI in my area is very slow. Is there any way I could connect my GNex to my PC internet? Its much faster and I think there should be an option for accessing internet on my cell phone through the computer.
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it's called reverse tether, google it. i believe there are a few apps on the play store that may enable it.
I found the app but it says that it requires my device to have reverse tethering enabled. How to do that?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...9tLmxpdHRsZWxhbi5SZXZlcnNlVGV0aGVyLlRyaWFsIl0.
doesnt say anything about needing additional support from the phone try this, just need to be rooted
I attached a screenshot since the forum has restrictions for new users posting links to screenshots.
"This app requires that your device supports and allows USB tethering which seems to be removed. Please go to your device Settings and try to manually enable USB Tethering before running the app again"
I got rid of that error but its hanging up on the configuration screen. Do we need to install any drivers for this to work? How do we enable network sharing? Can anyone give me complete tutorial?
You can use virtual wifi router to make a virtual wifi network and connect the phone to it
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Ryu234 said:
WIFI in my area is very slow. Is there any way I could connect my GNex to my PC internet? Its much faster and I think there should be an option for accessing internet on my cell phone through the computer.
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If your WiFi is slow then either you have a old slow router or your too far away from the router
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ac3theone said:
If your WiFi is slow then either you have a old slow router or your too far away from the router
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Edit, I'm dumb in the mornings.
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Does this happen to anyone else? Quite often if I've been using the N2 in my home, when I go out and about my phone will not be connected to mobile data (3G) and I have to toggle airplane mode for it to kick in?
tameracingdriver said:
Does this happen to anyone else? Quite often if I've been using the N2 in my home, when I go out and about my phone will not be connected to mobile data (3G) and I have to toggle airplane mode for it to kick in?
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Not had this myself, sounds like the cellular connection is going to sleep and not waking when your note 2 polls for a connection. Are you on a stock rom or a custom, can you post your android version number as well, will help anyone else who posts who may have more information for you.
If your rooted you could try pulling a log at the time you switch connections see if that yields any useful data.
Same here on a german device. I use manually select the Provider. Then it connect. Thank you for the tip with the airplane mode. But I search a way to kick this big. In a german forum a member says that a Fullwipe helps.
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Its a stock rooted ROM version JRO03C.N7100XXALJ1
Can anyone tell me what to look for in order to create a log? (I don't expect a tutorial just someone point me in the right direction).
The problem is intermittent.
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Its a stock rooted ROM version JRO03C.N7100XXALJ1
Can anyone tell me what to look for in order to create a log? (I don't expect a tutorial just someone point me in the right direction).
The problem is intermittent.
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Give this a go, should allow you to create a log during the time you have the problem then you can see what android is or is not doing at the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
Not something I have had myself but my gf has this same problem with her gs3. After having a look around our seems to be fairly common on the gs3 so any help with a fix would be great. I can only assume that it's something that will be fixed with a fw update from Samsung.
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I have the same issue and so does my girlfriend on her SIII.. Can be really annoying as I might leave somewhere with wifi connectivity expecting the phone to automatically connect to 3g and I miss things like whatsapp messages with no warning :/
When I realise I do use the flight mode trick to fix it but it's annoying that it happens.
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androidizen said:
Give this a go, should allow you to create a log during the time you have the problem then you can see what android is or is not doing at the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
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I've got Catlog now, next time it happens I'll open it up. Its behaved today mind.
I'd love to help but those l logging apps require root access on jellybean and I'm not rooted
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Hi,
Mine has thuis issue too. Hope new firmware csn solve it.
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Ok, here is my final conclusion and we can hopefully put this to rest, at least for some but hopefully many. Kal-El7 and myself spent quite awhile trying to figure out why tethering has suddenly stopped working for so many people. This may or may not be a solution for you in particular but it's good knowledge for those of you being affected or would be affected by this.
It appears T-Mobile has greatly expanded its detection of browser user agent clients. I can't seem to type just anything in a browser user agent spoofer. I used to be able to. Now it seems you must have a legitimate browser or you get the upsell. This has been my problem as of late and we couldn't figure out what was going on until we started ruling everything out. Oh, and make sure you don't use any Google web pages when testing user agents because apparently Google pages don't trigger the upsell page to appear (I think this has since changed and you may get the upsell). You can visit the following page for a comprehensive list of user agents:
http://useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php
This is the string I use as my agent in Firefox using the Add-on User Agent Switcher 0.7.3:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1)
In Chrome, install the extension 'User Agent Switcher' and then select 'Internet Explorer 7' as your user-agent.
Update: 07/20/2013
All this time and only now do I realize I didn't even mention what ROM I'm using. DOH! I'm using Tweaked 2.3 (as of 08/15: Tweaked 2.4.1) with default kernel and no additional mods or tweaks. You can use the built in tethering but I prefer to use a tethering app for additional features not available stock.
Update: 08/15/2013
I've had requests about the tethering app I use so I'll outline exactly what app I'm using and what settings I use:
ROM: Tweaked 2.4.1
App: Android-wifi-tether 3.3-beta2
URL: http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com
If you're using Tweaked 2.3+ ROM (and probably other ROMs). DO NOT change APN options within Android settings as it is not necessary.
Make sure these settings are checked or unchecked in the tethering app settings:
Change Device-Profile = Samsung Galaxy S3
Change Setup-Method = Netd-Ndc (master)
Send Netd Max Client Cmd = Checked
WiFi-driver reload = UNCHECKED
WiFi-driver reload 2 = Checked
Routing fix = Checked
You can change other settings to fit your needs. If you discover anything useful while experimenting with the settings please feel free to post your results.
Thanks to Kal-El7 for all his help in ruling everything else out in order to come to this conclusion. I'm forever grateful that he took as much time as he did in helping me.
If you have been helped in any way by this post, please hit the thank you button. Thanks!
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LOL, this is funny! I used Dolphins Custom User Agent feature and put Windows IE user agent string in there and immediately got the tethering upsell page on my phone. So I guess this means the sky's the limit as long as we use a whitelisted user agent. Good stuff!
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you sure about this?
i found that tether stopped because of roll out of LTE in my area. so i had to use fast.tmobile apn instead of the epc.tmobile.com and change my apn type from IPv4 to IPv4/IPv6 and that was all.
here's my post on tweaked thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43635205&postcount=1839
Funny things is that I can trigger up sell text message without tethering and with wifi OFF. When I download videos from YouTube using tubemate and choosing high resolution videos to be downloaded, I receive up sell sms and data being blocked for use with tubemate, but still works with "regular" YouTube app.
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My apn protocol is greyed out. Can't change it. Anybody know why?
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gshadow325 said:
you sure about this?
i found that tether stopped because of roll out of LTE in my area. so i had to use fast.tmobile apn instead of the epc.tmobile.com and change my apn type from IPv4 to IPv4/IPv6 and that was all.
here's my post on tweaked thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43635205&postcount=1839
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Yes, I'm sure. I can use LTE while wifi tethering just fine as well. I'm using Tweaked 2.3 ROM and I do not need to turn on the tethering apn options in settings. I am using the latest android-wifi-tether for root app found here:
https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wifi_tether_v3_3-beta2.apk
As long as I properly spoof my user agent I'm good to go. Been watching Hulu in HD on my desktop and used up 30gig over LTE. Life is good.
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I don't tether at all, but hit about 6GB per month on my phone , and I get the up sell text message 2/3 times per cycle. The last one always states that tethering has been blocked.
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I don't tether at all, but hit about 6GB per month on my phone , and I get the up sell text message 2/3 times per cycle. The last one always states that tethering has been blocked.
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You get that message without even turning on the Wi-Fi hotspot or USB tethering at all?
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You get that message without even turning on the Wi-Fi hotspot or USB tethering at all?
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yep get it every month, I was curious as to what it was actually till I read this thread. I don't tether or turn on hotspot. Maybe they look at the volume of data, and assume I am using a PC
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yep get it every month, I was curious as to what it was actually till I read this thread. I don't tether or turn on hotspot. Maybe they look at the volume of data, and assume I am using a PC
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Not really sure on that one. I've only received that when actually triggering it doing the obvious. This is the first I've heard about that as a random occurrence.
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Tethering stopped working for me since LTE became active in my area. However, I can still tether using the User Agent spoof, but I never like using it because it restricts me from streaming netflix on my browser. The only way I can get around this is by rolling back to 4G APN settings and changing Network mode from LTE/4G/3G/2G to 4G/3G/2G. Now my tethering is working just fine.
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Tethering stopped working for me since LTE became active in my area. However, I can still tether using the User Agent spoof, but I never like using it because it restricts me from streaming netflix on my browser. The only way I can get around this is by rolling back to 4G APN settings and changing Network mode from LTE/4G/3G/2G to 4G/3G/2G. Now my tethering is working just fine.
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Copy/Paste this user agent string exactly as it appears below into your agent spoofer and report back if you can use Netflix. Working for me.
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1)
i_guana said:
Copy/Paste this user agent string exactly as it appears below into your agent spoofer and report back if you can use Netflix. Working for me.
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1)
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It actually works! Thank you so much!
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It actually works! Thank you so much!
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My pleasure!
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I am not quite sure why this is so constantly debated.
The fact of the matter is that changing your user agent does ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide your tethering. When you transfer data (more specifically data packets) over ANY network, those packets have very distinct packet headers. ALLLLLL they need to do is look at those packet headers and see the peculiar and distinct format for an uplink, and you are caught.
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I don't tether at all, but hit about 6GB per month on my phone , and I get the up sell text message 2/3 times per cycle. The last one always states that tethering has been blocked.
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I definitely use a minimum of double that, around a dozen gigs per month. I have never seen this message.
Work related data exchange.
Admiral Sir Manley Power said:
I am not quite sure why this is so constantly debated.
The fact of the matter is that changing your user agent does ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide your tethering. When you transfer data (more specifically data packets) over ANY network, those packets have very distinct packet headers. ALLLLLL they need to do is look at those packet headers and see the peculiar and distinct format for an uplink, and you are caught.
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Well, it seems they don't employ that method.
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Admiral Sir Manley Power said:
I am not quite sure why this is so constantly debated.
The fact of the matter is that changing your user agent does ABSOLUTELY nothing to hide your tethering. When you transfer data (more specifically data packets) over ANY network, those packets have very distinct packet headers. ALLLLLL they need to do is look at those packet headers and see the peculiar and distinct format for an uplink, and you are caught.
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T-Mobile cant see a single thing I do on either my phone or when tethered. All, and I do mean ALL of my data ( headers and data ) , runs into my home server over an rsa encrypted tunnel Granted, I dont need to tether often, but I do like my data privacy. Apparently T-Mobile is allowed to look deep into your data packets per the contract you signed with them. Doesnt that make you feel good? I mean ... if any of you are like me, I use my phone for online banking, RDP / VNC into government servers, FTP / RDP / SSH into my home servers, managing my personal website , etc.. Security is a big issue.
I also highly recommend against using public proxies as they will have full access to anything you do. It takes about 10 minutes to set up a home tunnel provided you are even the least bit tech savy ( which if you are on XDA and using roms, means you have some skills ). Granted you will want a halfway decent home ISP. The dedicated server can be as old as a p2 with 256Mb ram. Doesnt take much.
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T-Mobile cant see a single thing I do on either my phone or when tethered. All, and I do mean ALL of my data ( headers and data ) , runs into my home server over an rsa encrypted tunnel Granted, I dont need to tether often, but I do like my data privacy. Apparently T-Mobile is allowed to look deep into your data packets per the contract you signed with them. Doesnt that make you feel good? I mean ... if any of you are like me, I use my phone for online banking, RDP / VNC into government servers, FTP / RDP / SSH into my home servers, managing my personal website , etc.. Security is a big issue.
I also highly recommend against using public proxies as they will have full access to anything you do. It takes about 10 minutes to set up a home tunnel provided you are even the least bit tech savy ( which if you are on XDA and using roms, means you have some skills ). Granted you will want a halfway decent home ISP. The dedicated server can be as old as a p2 with 256Mb ram. Doesnt take much.
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Lol nice
pyraxiate said:
T-Mobile cant see a single thing I do on either my phone or when tethered. All, and I do mean ALL of my data ( headers and data ) , runs into my home server over an rsa encrypted tunnel Granted, I dont need to tether often, but I do like my data privacy. Apparently T-Mobile is allowed to look deep into your data packets per the contract you signed with them. Doesnt that make you feel good? I mean ... if any of you are like me, I use my phone for online banking, RDP / VNC into government servers, FTP / RDP / SSH into my home servers, managing my personal website , etc.. Security is a big issue.
I also highly recommend against using public proxies as they will have full access to anything you do. It takes about 10 minutes to set up a home tunnel provided you are even the least bit tech savy ( which if you are on XDA and using roms, means you have some skills ). Granted you will want a halfway decent home ISP. The dedicated server can be as old as a p2 with 256Mb ram. Doesnt take much.
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Very nice. Security is always a good thing. Odd though that if they can see all that, why aren't they contacting me or sending me a threatening letter when I tether with no tunneling or VPN use? You would think after 200 gig over the last several months they would have said something to me by now. I mostly watch Hulu and Netflix in HD and that adds up in GB's quick. I very occasionally use BitTorrent but use BTGuard to encrypt its use. Still, no issues except for the occasional upsell page when I have a user agent spoofing issue. I think they use very basic detection schemes but elude to something more advanced. Proof is in the pudding as they say.
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