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Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.
SmartB0y said:
Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.
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So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.
Op= original poster. The other questions I will leave for the true devs
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OP: person who started thread.
Linux distro: not necessary, but many like Ubuntu (I have used Red Hat for a long time)
Tools: Download a kitchen if you just want to build roms, otherwise ask specific questions on what it is you are looking to do and usually someone here can either get you what you want.....or at least point you in the right direction.
And yes, this should have been posted in Q&A
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So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.[/QUOTE
Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
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Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
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Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.
Building my first Rom
lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.
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no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to dig.
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no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to stand on.
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Your welcome. Good luck. If you need assistance on compiling or understanding that process checkout my thread and/or PM me.
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Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.
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Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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If you have a bad taste in your mouth then your should probably brush your teeth. Then move on. Even the OP understood. Have a great weekend.
Brushed my teeth this morning but thanks for the advice. Seems you always need that last little word in there somewhere which is fine because not offense taken by your comments. Just defending a fellow geekdroider like myself from the devs that think their crap don't stink. Jump off your high horse and work on you rom creations because I don't use em anyway. Thanks buddy have a great weekend and happy droiding.
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Lol to up above but I understand where both of you are coming from. OP I wouldn't mind assisting.you if you need some help also. I just made my first rom two days ago took a month but the people on here a very helpful even if they are blunt lol I think they give the best help because they make you.think.about if you seriously want to become a dev the nice ones are also great help I don't think.the community would be as strong.if we didn't have blunt people that the nice people get into it with. They kinda go hand and hand lol they give helpful info when arguing and not even realize.
Swyped From My Rom But I Will Always Be A Mynion!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
good luck.
I consider myself a noob, I'm definitely far from even being considered a dev, and I can answer half of the questions I see on this forum from RESEARCH I've done scouting around the forums and actually reading the threads. Did anybody read the sticky about before you post??? Just sayin' come on ppl, I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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isnt that a part of research?
While some days I would be inclined to agree with you...
Two things come to mind:
Isn't this post a contribution to garbage posts? Really? Yet another post that I, and everyone has to "skim through" before finding the answer we are looking for?
Lighten the f*ck up. Talk about a first world problem.
Like you've never had a hard time figuring out a new forum/technology/device/community, needed basic help, been a noob. Like we ALL have. Give the noobs some help, a kind suggestion where to get an answer, an Example of how they might have used search to find the answer, perhaps a quick Constructive response on proper forum etiquette and good form.
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kingdazy said:
While some days I would be inclined to agree with you...
Two things come to mind:
Isn't this post a contribution to garbage posts? Really? Yet another post that I, and everyone has to "skim through" before finding the answer we are looking for?
Lighten the f*ck up. Talk about a first world problem.
Like you've never had a hard time figuring out a new forum/technology/device/community, needed basic help, been a noob. Like we ALL have. Give the noobs some help, a kind suggestion where to get an answer, an Example of how they might have used search to find the answer, perhaps a quick Constructive response on proper forum etiquette and good form.
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Cannot agree with you more people should stop wasting their time saying "look it up" and use that time to actually help the noobs
kingdazy;23476469
Isn't this post a contribution to garbage posts? [/QUOTE said:
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ahoyt05 said:
I consider myself a noob, I'm definitely far from even being considered a dev, and I can answer half of the questions I see on this forum from RESEARCH I've done scouting around the forums and actually reading the threads. Did anybody read the sticky about before you post??? Just sayin' come on ppl, I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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If you had used search, you'd have seen that this thread already exists. A lot.
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If you had used search, you'd have seen that this thread already exists. A lot.
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If you've ever used search, you understand why no one uses search....
ahoyt05 said:
I consider myself a noob, I'm definitely far from even being considered a dev, and I can answer half of the questions I see on this forum from RESEARCH I've done scouting around the forums and actually reading the threads. Did anybody read the sticky about before you post??? Just sayin' come on ppl, I read these things to LEARN and I'm getting tired of having to skim through all the repetitive garbage to find something new and/or useful.
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WE have a thanks button on here but wheres the DISLIKE button for me people like this...
Like everyone else has said already if you would actually do all the searching you say you do then you would have answered your own question since what you posted has been posted/said/stated many times already. This board is meant for people to help each other out in one way or another not for A$$es like you to try to bash or say dumb things to people that are barely learning.
Points taken and true
Guess I just had to blow off some steam, I was looking for a particular thread that had some answers in it that I needed and was getting frustrated, and yes I was using the search.
I do try to help where/when I can. I was going to quote everybody but if ppl read the thread they'll see that I'm replying to everyone who posted besides myself. I'm going to go get a cup of coffee to enjoy with my humble pie now....
I tried to thank all who posted but I think I reached my limit so...Thanks
I realize this may not appease yours (or others) frustration, but sometimes people ask again because other threads pertaining to the same subject have become so huge it would take hours to search for the answer. I work full time, actually right now I work full time and a half and while I do my best to seek out existing answers I will, at times, just ask and take a chance that someone will be helpful enough to answer rather than saying "just search".
If you've ever worked in tech support then you'd understand that part of the 'job' is repetition, answering the same question, giving the same advice, over and over and over again.
Yes I agree it's good for people to look around, read up on what's out there but when threads become full of back and forth chit chat (which I tend to enjoy reading lol) it makes it harder to find the answer you are looking for, especially if you are on limited time.
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I realize this may not appease yours (or others) frustration, but sometimes people ask again because other threads pertaining to the same subject have become so huge it would take hours to search for the answer. I work full time, actually right now I work full time and a half and while I do my best to seek out existing answers I will, at times, just ask and take a chance that someone will be helpful enough to answer rather than saying "just search".
If you've ever worked in tech support then you'd understand that part of the 'job' is repetition, answering the same question, giving the same advice, over and over and over again.
Yes I agree it's good for people to look around, read up on what's out there but when threads become full of back and forth chit chat (which I tend to enjoy reading lol) it makes it harder to find the answer you are looking for, especially if you are on limited time.
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Actually I generally like the back and forth also, I was using the search and couldn't tell you how many results I got, then trying o filter through them all...UGH!!! I went back to it after my little rant and eventually found what I was looking for, but again...UGH!!!
Never worked in tech. support and don't want to, though one warehouse I worked at I did become the "IT" guy everybody came to before they actually put in a help ticket.
I'm self taught through the help menus and forums in all things tech that I do so I've spent countless hours on my laptop or phone at some truck stop in BFE with a crappy wifi signal that I have to pay by the hour for or very slow data connections trying to figure things out or get some fix/rom/mod/program downloaded. Or just waiting for pages to load so I can read to find out if there's an answer there for me.
and again the humble pie was deserved and probably needed, everyone should have some on occasion, I'm not above admitting that I was wrong.
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If you've ever used search, you understand why no one uses search....
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Exactly!!! LOL! Especially when using the Tapatalk or Xda app.
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This is my kind of subject.... Guys you do know that you can use Google to find stuff on xda. Put your search words in with xda at the end. Just because your a noob here does that mean you have to be a noob in regards to searching the web. How did you find xda how did you find epic touch thread...? No problem helping others who want to help themselves. I know a lot of you say just keep answering the same question but really trying and help yourself....
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If you had used search, you'd have seen that this thread already exists. A lot.
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Google is your friend. I have learned how to theme decompile fix XML files and a host of other things by using Google. So much info on the web its not funny...
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playya said:
Google is your friend. I have learned how to theme decompile fix XML files and a host of other things by using Google. So much info on the web its not funny...
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Couldn't agree more, that's how I learned most of what I know.
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Couldn't agree more, that's how I learned most of what I know.
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Me too. I agree with your and playaas posts. It get old seeing the same questions asked all the time.
If anyone needs any help with the epic touch hit me up on Gtalk @musclehead84
Hello , im going to buy the One x and are there going to bee a Unlock or S-off without the htcdev.com . i will not lose my warrinty .
No, pretty sure there will be no development done on the OneX at all. There are currently no threads in the Dev section talking about this topic, so I would encourage you not to bother using the search button to find any, you'll only be wasting your own time.
In fact, probably best not to bother buying this phone, if you were hoping for any cool ROMs or custom recovery etc.
Sorry.
777ace said:
No, pretty sure there will be no development done on the OneX at all. There are currently no threads in the Dev section talking about this topic, so I would encourage you not to bother using the search button to find any, you'll only be wasting your own time.
In fact, probably best not to bother buying this phone, if you were hoping for any cool ROMs or custom recovery etc.
Sorry.
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Thankyou for reminding me why I love Australians so much
M.
777ace said:
No, pretty sure there will be no development done on the OneX at all. There are currently no threads in the Dev section talking about this topic, so I would encourage you not to bother using the search button to find any, you'll only be wasting your own time.
In fact, probably best not to bother buying this phone, if you were hoping for any cool ROMs or custom recovery etc.
Sorry.
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now that a very sad news , so are you sure there will be no unlocked without losing warranty or are you just saying ? because if no unlock no buy
Well, I think what our Australian friend is suggesting is that you visit the development board SOUTH of this one.
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.
Or... until I'm banned.
I was kidding.
Everything I said in that post, do the opposite. Especially the bit about looking in the Dev section...
Ooops beaten. What John said
Hello and Merry Christmas,
Is there currently any downside to rooting and unlocking the LGOG?
I assume it will void warranty and is not undoable. I heard it messed up some peoples network connection?
I have best buy warranty... If i needed to take my phone in for repair would they care if rooted or not?
Thanks
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Please learn and love the search section of.this wonderful site. All your questions u listed in a Thread are already answered elsewhere. Yes there are ALWAYS inherit risks when you do anything to your phone . There also awesome good things that can happen learn, read, and then if you don't understand ask a question in the place where it is already been asked if you can. I did the same.thing and someone told me.this very thing. Good luck and Merry Christmas and happy new.year. message me if u have trouble.searching. hint.....development section. :thumbup:
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Not only did you not answer my question, but you did not even help guide me toward an answer. I'm looking around thee "dev section" (which one? there are two?) and I don't see answers to my questions. The search function on this site is horrible.
The purpose of the Q&A section is to ask questions and receive answers.
What is your problem?
BTW: I ended up rooting/unlocking and it was very simple. I do not think there is any downside at this time.
Is there a vid how to root from note 4 6.0.1 ??
Blastoff29 said:
Is there a vid how to root from note 4 6.0.1 ??
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Do you need someone to hold your hand? You've played this game before.
If there is a "vid" it hasn't been posted here. Do you need help in using Google?
Yes, I do. Don't want to brick my phone. Not playing games either.Just asking , don't have a cow, breathe
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Yes, I do. Don't want to brick my phone. Just asking , don't have a cow, breathe
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Try helping yourself. I know, it's a tough concept.
There are three or four threads right on the very front page of this subforum that will answer all of your questions.
Have a cow? I'm not having a cow. I'm sick of people that can figure out how to post a completely redundant question without following rule number one of the forum.
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news
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douger1957 said:
Try helping yourself. I know, it's a tough concept.
There are three or four threads right on the very front page of this subforum that will answer all of your questions.
Have a cow? I'm not having a cow. I'm sick of people that can figure out how to post a completely redundant question without following rule number one of the forum.
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No need to be an ass about it..
Just asking about vid, rooted my previous phones before, upgraded to note 4 . Been waiting root and os upgrades. Been reading alot about how to root this phone. Look like this is alot if steps to do so. And alot of miss communication how to do so.... that's why I ask about a vid.. Geez
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No need to be an ass about it..
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Did you join just to post this or are you a sock puppet?
Nobody was being an "ass." The forum rules say to search first. There are at least three threads on the front page that say "noob" and cover what the OP had asked for. Typing a response to the same question over and over because "noobs" are too lazy to help themselves is tiring.
If the OP is incapable of following directions, of reading where others had screwed up and how to fix it, a video isn't going to help.
Never called u names, so let's not start.... I will just move on, thanks for your warm suggestions. Have a good one
Blastoff29 said:
Never called u names, so let's not start.... I will just move on, thanks for your warm suggestions. Have a good one
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Come back in a couple of weeks when you can start yet another thread!
Someday u will get out of your mom's basement. Get a life
There are a few videos on YouTube but the rooting is scary. My N4 is my only phone so I read up and took the plunge. It all worked out but not without a few hangups. People on XDA will help you out of a jam if needed.
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Blastoff29 said:
Someday u will get out of your mom's basement. Get a life
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My mom is dead and I'm 600 miles from her house, but thanks for playing. See you in a couple of weeks. Will you be bringing a new sock puppet?
douger1957 said:
Did you join just to post this or are you a sock puppet?
Nobody was being an "ass." The forum rules say to search first. There are at least three threads on the front page that say "noob" and cover what the OP had asked for. Typing a response to the same question over and over because "noobs" are too lazy to help themselves is tiring.
If the OP is incapable of following directions, of reading where others had screwed up and how to fix it, a video isn't going to help.
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Joined just to post this. I've been lurking the forums for a long time as I have a rooted Note 4 but never had a reason to post. You showing very little respect for your peers on the forums caused me finally create an account so my voice could be heard. If you still believe I'm a sock puppet you can google my username and find I am active across a wide range of forums and platforms. I'm in no way associated with blastoff but I have been in his situation before so I understand where he is coming from and have sympathy for him. He tried to be civil about it and you are throwing accusations at him about making puppets without any possible proof other than it being a new account. This is a place meant for people to converse, ask questions, and be friendly and yet somehow you have managed to do the exact opposite. I get that he posted a new thread instead of searching but instead of posting a snappy response about how he broke the rules and should help himself you could maybe show a sliver of kindness and welcome him to the forums and inform him that all his answers are in previously posted threads. This will the last time I respond on this thread as I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone on the other side of a screen.
With that said, Blastoff, if you need any assistance please feel free to message me and if I'm able to I will assist you. Good luck on your journey to rooting your phone!
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Joined just to post this. I've been lurking the forums for a long time as I have a rooted Note 4 but never had a reason to post. You showing very little respect for your peers on the forums caused me finally create an account so my voice could be heard. If you still believe I'm a sock puppet you can google my username and find I am active across a wide range of forums and platforms. I'm in no way associated with blastoff but I have been in his situation before so I understand where he is coming from and have sympathy for him. He tried to be civil about it and you are throwing accusations at him about making puppets without any possible proof other than it being a new account. This is a place meant for people to converse, ask questions, and be friendly and yet somehow you have managed to do the exact opposite. I get that he posted a new thread instead of searching but instead of posting a snappy response about how he broke the rules and should help himself you could maybe show a sliver of kindness and welcome him to the forums and inform him that all his answers are in previously posted threads. This will the last time I respond on this thread as I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone on the other side of a screen.
With that said, Blastoff, if you need any assistance please feel free to message me and if I'm able to I will assist you. Good luck on your journey to rooting your phone!
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This is blastoffs 2nd thread with the same question. Both times posting ridiculous questions about note 4 root. If he had searched, he'd have his answer, and that's the point. Douger1957 has assisted tons of people with root, unlock, firmwares, etc. So before you pass judgement, search a little yourself, and see how douger1957 responds overall, not just with trolls.
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siyman4 said:
Joined just to post this. I've been lurking the forums for a long time as I have a rooted Note 4 but never had a reason to post. You showing very little respect for your peers on the forums caused me finally create an account so my voice could be heard. If you still believe I'm a sock puppet you can google my username and find I am active across a wide range of forums and platforms. I'm in no way associated with blastoff but I have been in his situation before so I understand where he is coming from and have sympathy for him. He tried to be civil about it and you are throwing accusations at him about making puppets without any possible proof other than it being a new account. This is a place meant for people to converse, ask questions, and be friendly and yet somehow you have managed to do the exact opposite. I get that he posted a new thread instead of searching but instead of posting a snappy response about how he broke the rules and should help himself you could maybe show a sliver of kindness and welcome him to the forums and inform him that all his answers are in previously posted threads. This will the last time I respond on this thread as I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone on the other side of a screen.
With that said, Blastoff, if you need any assistance please feel free to message me and if I'm able to I will assist you. Good luck on your journey to rooting your phone!
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siyman4 said:
Joined just to post this. I've been lurking the forums for a long time as I have a rooted Note 4 but never had a reason to post. You showing very little respect for your peers on the forums caused me finally create an account so my voice could be heard. If you still believe I'm a sock puppet you can google my username and find I am active across a wide range of forums and platforms. I'm in no way associated with blastoff but I have been in his situation before so I understand where he is coming from and have sympathy for him. He tried to be civil about it and you are throwing accusations at him about making puppets without any possible proof other than it being a new account. This is a place meant for people to converse, ask questions, and be friendly and yet somehow you have managed to do the exact opposite. I get that he posted a new thread instead of searching but instead of posting a snappy response about how he broke the rules and should help himself you could maybe show a sliver of kindness and welcome him to the forums and inform him that all his answers are in previously posted threads. This will the last time I respond on this thread as I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone on the other side of a screen.
With that said, Blastoff, if you need any assistance please feel free to message me and if I'm able to I will assist you. Good luck on your journey to rooting your phone!
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That's the thing , I read alot how to root. Rooted many other phones myself. Maybe my first post wasn't in the right spot... Tried to be very civil about it. But just got way to many negative vibes . I have read post , how to root in this forum . Never once this guy pointed me in the right direction... I really think this guy has failed this Forum. .. :/
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That's the thing , I read alot how to root. Rooted many other phones myself. Maybe my first post wasn't in the right spot... Tried to be very civil about it. But just got way to many negative vibes . I have read post , how to root in this forum . Never once this guy pointed me in the right direction... I really think this guy has failed this Forum. .. :/
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Oh, look. Two sock puppets talking to each other. How cute.
I didn't fail the forum, Bunky. I failed a troll. I won't lose any sleep over it.
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Is there a vid how to root from note 4 6.0.1 ??
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Yes there's plenty of vids. I've rooted plenty of phones, but can't seem to root this one. The vids say use kingo root, but I tried every one I found and none rooted my note 4 verizon.
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Oh, look. Two sock puppets talking to each other. How cute.
I didn't fail the forum, Bunky. I failed a troll. I won't lose any sleep over it.
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You did fail the forum. It sounds like you're usually pretty good on here, but there's almost a page of garbage here now because of your initial reply. This thread could have been 2 posts. "Is there a vid" and some time in the future "http://hereIsThe.vid".
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You did fail the forum. It sounds like you're usually pretty good on here, but there's almost a page of garbage here now because of your initial reply. This thread could have been 2 posts. "Is there a vid" and some time in the future "http://hereIsThe.vid".
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Ok ......here's the thing...On July 9th Douger1957 gave blastoff a link to the threads that explain in detail the processes to help him get rooted and unlocked. Then exactly 10 days later blastoff starts a new thread asking for a video....sorry, vid...this isn't rocket science. No need for a second thread, no need for drama.....simply search first, help yourself, ask informed questions that show you've at least tried something, anything! .......root?......vid? Of course you're going to get a response with some frustration included. In the last couple of weeks more 1 post members have shown up than ever before, with disrespectful questions, comments, and responses. Wtf. They drop these questions, get helped, don't thank anyone, show no respect for the members that have helped the most. Tons of people come, ask, take, complain, and don't contribute or thank the devs. Hsbadr has complained about this very thing, hundreds of downloads and a minimal amount of thanks or donations. So, go ahead and say what you will, my opinion is, the people who are assisting others all the time, should get the benefit of the doubt when these situations arise. And the single post members should exhaust all avenues of search before asking questions about things that have 4 or 5 detailed threads already.
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