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Hi, I have been searching on the forum in search of some information on MicroSD cards and came to no avail.
With my HD, it came with a 8GB Class 6 MicroSDHC. I think it needed it to play videos. I can't imagine using it with a slower card.
Now, my TP2 will arrive Monday and I would like to know the following:
1. Brand
2. Size
3. Speed (class)
4. Price
Is it performing well with the video playbacks or have you installed the SD Tuner software available for the HD?
What do you recommend?
Many, many thanks for any replies, comments and help!
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
Not the one i was looking for, i wanted the 8GB or 16GB but both where not in stock and the 4GB was less then 10 euros. I will buy a larger one in a few months.
With class 6 my phone isn't slowed down. A few years ago i bought a 2GB mini-SD, but my HTC Vox was slowed down very much. Didn't look to the class/or speed back then.
MicroSD cards based on SLC might be beter them MLC. IMHO i would always take a class 6 or higher card. However class 8 cards are hard to find.
I'm using the 8GB Class 4 card that came with my daughter's Nokia 5800 and it seems fine. Just watched an xdiv episode of Only Fools and Horses on it with no stutter or dropped frames.
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
i'm using sandisk 8g class 2. whatched movies and played music, everything is fine. It only cost me just under tenner.
The performance diference between a class 2 or a class 6 is not that noticeable. However, at the price the cards are, I think it worths always to buy a class 6 card.
I bought a Transcend 8GB class 6 card. It cost me aprox. 20€.
The biggest differences I noticed between a class 2 and 6 card are:
-Taking photos is faster with class 6
-Browsing photos in sdcard is a bit faster also
-Viewing movies sometimes is a bit more smooth.
HastaSSSS
I have a 16GB class 2 Sandisk. I watch movies just fine. I figure with a class 6 i might be able to watch HD videos more smoothly.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your replies. So from what you guys are telling me, it is always better to pay that little extra for the class 6 MicroSDs. But then again, is it worth investing in a 16GB Class 4 (no Class 6 available except the brand A-Data) or an 8GB Class 6.
16GB is nearly 4 times more expensive than the 8GB and yet it is slower. Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
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Yeah, please let us know if it makes that much of a difference.
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
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I have read about this brand, and what others said was that their Class 6 under performs Sandisk's Class 4 Cards. Do yo notice any differences? How is the performance?
Also, I wouldn't recommend buying these cards off eBay. There are so many, fake cards on there. I know so, because I know mates that sell these cards. I would just buy from a genuine local store and pay a little bit more unless you don't care about performance.
Anyway, my last question.
What brand do you think has the best performance. Yeah, we can find out all the data about these cards on the web but it's nothing like the hands on tests from real users. So, will it be Sandisk, Transend, Toshiba, Kingston or the later A-Data?
Found a pretty review on the Sandisk 16GB C4 MicroSDHC cards. They compared it to the Kingston 8GB C4 MicroSDHC card.
Sandisk seems to be the company that is producing the fastest cards. It out performs Kingston.
But $133, is a bit steep. I think if I am correct a Sandisk 8GB C6 MicroSDHC is only $49.
What do you think?
You won't notice much difference between class 2 and class 6 as the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
There are some cheap class 2 16gb cards out there, I have them and you only really notice if you install something like sdtuneup, but then again, you wouldn't notice much difference between class4 and class6
SanDisk microSDHC 16 GB Mobile Ultra works fine!
With the enclosed reader it is really fast via USB.
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the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
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Cheers for the heads up about the TP2's read speed.
I was going to go for a 16GB class 2 but now might hold out for a class 4.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
cocoaju said:
Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
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Please don't get two 8GB's, you will ruin the back cover of the device swapping the cards over all the time
My understanding is that the Class affects write speed, not read speed, so you won't see a difference playing movies on one or the other. You will see a difference in the amount of time it takes to get the movie onto the card (providing you aren't using ActiveSync, which will slow things down way beyond Class2 speeds).
I have a SanDisk Class 2 16 GB card on my Vogue and watch movies just fine with CorePlayer. Maybe a brief stutter once every 5 minutes or so, which I attribute to WinMo doing some other task in the background, not the read speed of the card.
In short, if it doesn't matter to you how long it takes to transfer large files onto the card, go with the least expensive.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
I really don't want to buy a cheaper Class 2 card and only finding it is not working to my standards. I am pretty fussy about these things.
Any of you needed to install the SDTuneUp registry edit for the TP2? Do we need it? Anyone did any tests?
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
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Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
ajbopp said:
Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
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Hello ajbopp,
Thanks for your additional information. I think not a lot of people actually realise this. I always thought the Class Rating was how you determine transfer speed and not just write speed.
But there must be some ratings for Reading. Some cards are faster than others and that will certainly affect the rate of requiring information from the card, right? Because files are written in blocks and are distributed everywhere (fragmentation), so if the card is faster, then finding the blocks will be quicker, hence a better performance for reading movie files.
Just thinking logically how computer hard disk works. Not sure if that applies to SDHC cards. I also think the speed is also determined by the drive (the hardware reading/writing on the card).
There aren't many information on this. I have been searching around and most information I found was given by the companies that made these cards. Real tests are few and far between. Most websites I visited, tells me only of the write speed as I think that is what is most important to people who uses these cards, such as Photo Fanatics who needs speed for taking high end photos very quickly and for taking HD videos at 30fps. There is less need to know about read speed.
It's so confusing...
Got it yesterday. Thanks for all your help guys!
I finally went for the Transcend 8GB Class 6 Micro SDHC. Cost of only $187 HKD, roughly $23 USD. Didn't end up getting the 16GB as they didn't have any in stock and it costs 3 times the amount.
Without any tests, I just loaded my movies and it played very well. No dropped frames. No tweaks whatsoever.
Hello!
I had a TP with a Micro SD 8GB Class 2 card.
I'm considering buying a new one (lack of space available) and I wonder if I should consider a class 4 or 6...
I use the MicroSD to store software, pictures (camera), music (to listen), and some videos (to watch).
I don't intend to remove the microsd from the TP2 slot (have to remove the cover) so what I usually do is to connect via USB cable (data instead of AS).
So, transfering data like this will I notice difference with Class 2, 4 or 6?
I'd get a good price with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-SDC2-16GB-microSDHC/dp/B001RPD06I
is it good enough or should I buy a Sandisk or perhaps a Class 4 or 6?
Thanks
SanDisk and Kingston are both good manufactures.
Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
But on the other hand: class 4 cards need more power consumption than class 2 cards and class 6 cards need power consumption than class 4.
For this reason I bought 1 x 16gb class 4. That is the compromise of speed and power.
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Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
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Again, this is only for write speed. I think it's an important distinction to make, especially if you are hoping for better video playback because of a faster card. The class of the card is not likely to have any impact on the device's performance, either video or anything else (other than file saving/writing operations).
so... for my kinda use there is no need for a class 6 right?
do you think a class 2 kingston MicroSD 16GB can be used for what I want?
playback music and some video... storage ... navigation?
Going on a long long trip and only have room for my Dinc.... Will a class 4 card get the job done or do I need to get a class 6?
Thanx!
That really just matters when copying/writing the initial file and on read times.
For video saving or video playback, it might save you and extra few seconds during the save or load times, but it shouldn't matter at all.
I have a 16GB class 2 card, ran the SD card speed test app, and it came out as a class 4 card.
I notice perfectly fine speeds on my card. I never seem to think to myself, "this thing is damn slow." If you do something like sync 500+ songs to the card at one time, sure it may take a little while to initially find them, but after that there's no wait.
Hope that helps.
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Going on a long long trip and only have room for my Dinc.... Will a class 4 card get the job done or do I need to get a class 6?
Thanx!
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I just made a post about class and brand in the accessories section. Take a quick look at that. But class shouldn't really save much time unless you are recording really long videos, the most it will save you is maybe 2 seconds TOPS after finishing video recording. My sandisk 16GB class 2 saved videos in 2.5 seconds or less.
ok, thanks for that info. i was under the impression that the write speed of the card was a limiting factor in bitrate/framerate. Therefore I would get better video quality using a faster SD card. I have seen posts where peeps complain about jerky video @ 720p and the class 2 card is most always the culprit.
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ok, thanks for that info. i was under the impression that the write speed of the card was a limiting factor in bitrate/framerate. Therefore I would get better video quality using a faster SD card. I have seen posts where peeps complain about jerky video @ 720p and the class 2 card is most always the culprit.
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Well considering it isn't attempting to write the video as it is recording, class does not apply to this. Framerate/bitrate is controlled by the recording software and the camera itself. SD card just stores the finished product.
More for less, or same for more?
Rather than pony up the extra benjamins for a higher class card, why not get the/a bigger 32 Gb class 2 card, like the one from Verizon?
I have it, it too tests @ class 4, I've had no issues whatsoever.
My $0.02
cool, thank u for that 2 cents.
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Rather than pony up the extra benjamins for a higher class card, why not get the/a bigger 32 Gb class 2 card, like the one from Verizon?
I have it, it too tests @ class 4, I've had no issues whatsoever.
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Well it depends if someone needs faster transfer rates or higher capacity, as well as cost difference. 32gb cards are going for 75 to 90 bucks still being that they are still relatively new, while a 16gb class 10 from kingston is about the same price, maybe even cheaper with transfer rates at least 3 times faster than any class 2. All in preference.
So as far as media playback goes, will I notice much of a difference on class 4 vs class 6 on a 32 GB card? The speed difference is really in file location, not playback right?
Basically, yes.
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Hey -
I want to upgrade to a 32gb card, what is the best brand? I know that some are faster or slower than others - how do you choose an SD card?
Thanks.
By class speed then the storage
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I don't think I would ever see a difference in the speeds available in "classes" on my phone unless it was a defective card. I picked up this card on amazon and have been very happy.
Sure, I'd love a class 10 card but I don't think the DInc2 can even do anything with that. Nor can my bank account take it
I'm a little surprised the prices haven't come down further.
The only way you will benefit from a class 10 card is if you do photography in raw format with a requirement for rapid snapshots or 1080p video recording in a higher quality. You'd be better off saving the money by getting a good quality class 6, or even a class 4.
I'm using a Kingston Class 4 32gb card without many issues. I did have a weird issue with the 720p recording at one time, but I haven't tested with CM yet to see if it was possibly a software glitch.
Your phone will perform poorly with a class 10. Higher classes have faster sequential access times at the expense of random access lag, and the vast majority of what your phone will be doing is random access.
The only things that benefit from class 10 is things like cameras, that write huge files (sequentially) all day.
The short answer is get a class 4 or 6, Sandisk tends to have good random access stats.
Just for reference, the DINC2 comes with a a SanDisk class 4.
I am having an 8GB class 10 Toshiba MicroSDHC with technical reading speed indicated at up to 25mb/s and writing speed up to 20mb/s but I usually can only get slightly more than half of its full speed capability when running a benchmark Is it because I did not perform an initial format for the card or the Play does not support such hi-speed transaction?
It has been proven that the Xperia PLAY and probably other phones as well have problems with Class 10 cards. The problem with Class 10 cards is that, while they have super high speed writing capabilities, there goes a trouble with reading speeds. It has been proven in games in which during gameplay, the games that were tested lagged to the point of unplayability while they are trying to read game data (or SD files, more commonly) from the card.
Users here mostly recommend Class 2 and 4 regardless of the capacity.
PS: I can live with Class 2 microSDHC, so why can't you?
Well, I was attracted by producer's advertisement of their so-called fastest microsdhc in the market and did not know the fact that my PLAY does not handle such speed.
Since I already bought it, do you know if there is any solution now to overcome this problem and utilize the full capability of the card' speed?
honestly, i don't know. first things first when buying new hardware, read and read and read and read and read and read a lot of reviews until you are satisfied. never read company claims because they are just marketing strategies, ALL LIES, rather, read user opinions.
since you bought it already, all i can think of for it to not be wasted is to just buy a card reader for it and use it as a flash memory stick for your laptop or desktop instead. i mean use it like a regular USB flash drive. that's just my opinion though. you really can't stick a Class 10 card on the XPlay. all hell will break loose.
start looking for class 2 or 4 instead.
So sad...I thought I could somehow improve my PLAY performance. Anyway, I think I will use it for my Digital Camera instead and start looking for the class 4 one as your advise.
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So sad...I thought I could somehow improve my PLAY performance. Anyway, I think I will use it for my Digital Camera instead and start looking for the class 4 one as your advise.
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Class 10 cards are KILLER in a digital Camera. I use one in my Canon Rebel T1i and continuous shooting works so much better and faster with a Class 10 card. Also much smoother video recording if you record in HD.
BTW the best card for this device is the Sandisk 32GB Class 4 card. Buy from a reputable seller as fakes are out there...
I am currently using a Sandisc 32gb Class 4 card and there are slight lags on Modern COmbat 2, my old card was a class 6 16gb card. I saw better performance on the class 6. I am aware of the class 10 issues. My question is I am currently using SD card speed increase software to cahgne the Android cache size from 128kb to 4mb, is this software make a difference? Just curious to get peoples input.
https://market.android.com/search?q=sd+card+speed+booster&so=1&c=apps
i'd stick to class 2 if i were you, it's slow when writing (but that's already fast for me), but it's fast when reading.. at least no lags when something operates within the card..
and oh, is it true that SanDisk get their cards from random unbranded producers then label them with "SanDisk"? If so, then I won't trust this brand anymore..
what is the best brand then? they say it's only between SanDisk, Kingston, and Transcend. But my sister had problems with Kingston USB Flash drives where they periodically corrupt files and have slow writing/reading speeds and that gives me a negative feedback on the whole company. as for Transcend, i think it's too cheap that the quality might be substandard.
I'm still using the stock card that came with my Play (i don't know but it doesn't have a brand) and it's doing its job pretty well. i'm considering an upgrade soon.
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Class 10 cards are KILLER in a digital Camera. I use one in my Canon Rebel T1i and continuous shooting works so much better and faster with a Class 10 card. Also much smoother video recording if you record in HD.
BTW the best card for this device is the Sandisk 32GB Class 4 card. Buy from a reputable seller as fakes are out there...
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It is a great information indeed. I am more confident for my next choice of card now.
Problem with high class SDHC cards is that they're good at big files, but suck at small files like game data files on phones.
Class 4&6 are the most versatile for all the various things you might do with the phone.
Also, I've always found SanDisk to be the most reliable.
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From what I understand I would need the class 10 card if I want to record HD video. If I am not going to record video can I get away with class 4?
Thanks for any help!
You do not need a class 10 to record HD Video, a class 4 does the job perfectly well. I had a 32GB class 4 sandisk and it was fine.
I've heard that for smartphones, Class 10 is even worse than lower classes.
That's because class 10 has fast block reading speeding. The problem is that it comes at a price of slow random access reading. If you want to play high bitrate movies from the SD card, higher class will be better for sure. However for day-to-day usage, lower class might make the phone feel faster.
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From what I understand I would need the class 10 card if I want to record HD video. If I am not going to record video can I get away with class 4?
Thanks for any help!
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class 4 is good enough for video recording.
iirc, 1080p video on the note is recorded at a bitrate of around 17mbps or so. convert that from bits to bytes and its something like 2.125mb/s minimum required to record videos at 1080p. so anything higher than a class 2 should be fine for playback and recording (unless you encode at a silly bitrate).
the only time i could see anyone really needing the faster class speed would be if you wanted to take 8mp shots in rapid succession. depending on the colour tone of the image you intend to take, the file size can go up to 3mb. at that point, your photos per second will be limited by the speed of your memory card. ie. class 4 = 1 photo per second, class 6 = 2 photos per second, class 10 = 3 photos per second maximum.
Be careful in stores. Went to best buy last night for SD card. Class 4 cards only in phone section but at class 10 price from camera section. Also shelf had classes mixed up only sorted by gb. So pay attention to what your getting
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Whelp, I know that my bullcrap cheapo Lexar "class 10" wont allow me to record to it directly.
Man.. I'm pissed. time to look for a new one.
Hope a Samsung 32GB c10 I am thinking of buying will be ok on a SAMSUNG device...
microSD Class 10
What about if you will move (apps2SD) games like Sentinel (TD game) in the microSD, is it necessary to go for c10?
I'm confused on what to buy, c4 or c10.
Need your help!
For me it is. copying movies from PC to my SD card is just painful on class4.
I see that some good class10 cards can write at 20mb/s (sequential), which is 5 times as fast as my current class4 sandisk (4.1mb/s).
The only thing that is holding me back is the price. Once the price comes down a bit ill definitely grab a c10 kingston 32gb.
What about for games you move to your external sd card? Will performance decrease with a c4? Much better with c10?
What can you say about the Ridata 32gb class 10? Is it any good compared to transcend or kingston or sandisk?
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What about for games you move to your external sd card? Will performance decrease with a c4? Much better with c10?
What can you say about the Ridata 32gb class 10? Is it any good compared to transcend or kingston or sandisk?
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Dont know about games, I doubt c10 will make a difference at all....but dont mark my words
As for brand you should look at the particular model rather than judging by just the brand. For instance the sandisk mobile ultra (class 4) beats many of the other class10 cards
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011.html
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I managed to get a class 10 32 gig for about £25. Currently they are very cheap so it might be worth getting it either way.
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I managed to get a class 10 32 gig for about £25. Currently they are very cheap so it might be worth getting it either way.
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When I switched from a class4 32GB sandisk to a class10 32GB Lexar, I noticed the smartphone working faster and snappier, probably APP2SD in gingerbread and pictures and videos in the gallery has something to do with that change in response.
In my experience with memory cards and professional equipment, not only we shall choose for class ratings, but also for trusted brands, like sandisk, lexar and transcend.
To sum up, class10 is better than class4, and if the diference in price is not very high, totally worth it, but, there is a lot more difference in daily use between a galaxy note and a HTC Desire.
Class 10 is for marketing, it's totally not needed for smartphone with internal memcard.
You might want to read this thread on why class 4 is better suited for smartphone use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14456360&postcount=42
Currently using a Class 4 Sandisk 32gb card. Am very satisfied with the performance.
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Currently using a Class 4 Sandisk 32gb card. Am very satisfied with the performance.
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Same here
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Can someone answer the following question which 32gb SD card is best for Samsung Galaxy Note in terms of performance?
Assuming there is one simple answer
Would appreciated a direct link to say Amazon product page.
Appreciated any help as it saves me annoying people by opening a new thread
Sandisk 16/32GB Mobile Ultra
Guys!
What can you say about Sandisk's Mobile Ultra microSD cards? I'm planning to buy this sdcard instead of class10 microsd cards.
Thanks!
allansy said:
Guys!
What can you say about Sandisk's Mobile Ultra microSD cards? I'm planning to buy this sdcard instead of class10 microsd cards.
Thanks!
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probably the best , but superexpensive