can you update a rooted phone without unrooting it? - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

I have a t-mobile SGS3 that I rooted through directions on this forum. Now I cant get it to update. Do I need to get
my phone unrooted to get updates.. The reason i rooted it was because i was told i could take pictures while i was on the phone(not true)
I found i just needed to down load an app for that. I dont even know what the purpose of rooting your phones does. I was looking for a phone store that could unroot my specific phone but have no luck. So whats the procedure ? THANKS:good:

NASTY-LSX said:
I have a t-mobile SGS3 that I rooted through directions on this forum. Now I cant get it to update. Do I need to get
my phone unrooted to get updates.. The reason i rooted it was because i was told i could take pictures while i was on the phone(not true)
I found i just needed to down load an app for that. I dont even know what the purpose of rooting your phones does. I was looking for a phone store that could unroot my specific phone but have no luck. So whats the procedure ? THANKS:good:
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i say before you do anything to your phone like unroot it or flash the newest update thats rooted , to read around A LOT. AND I MEAN A LOT you dont seem to know what to do at all so i really suggest read a bit before any action. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949687
just read and follow instructions if you're t-mobile usa you download the file with the name t999 if you're in canada you most likely have t999v. remember to read! gl :good:

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[Q] New Sprint update available to 4.53.651.1 - break root???

Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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honestly, why did you do that??i just looked at androidcentral.com and the update doesnt fix anything special..anyway im sure a dev will have a rooted version soon..and just like he said, did it change the hboot?
You should always assume that an OTA update will break root (since it will not have Superuser installed) and that it may NAND Lock your phone (take away your S-OFF). If you want the update just wait around for a short time and a rooted version will appear here.
Well, try using an app that requires root permissions to see if it broke it, like titanium backup.
bpc4209 said:
Did it change your H Boot Version?
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Hboot version is 2.16.0001
It was not clear from your OP if you had already rooted and then took the OTA or you wanted to know if you could still root your phone.
That is the same Hboot as the previous OTA so you may still be able to root with Revolution if you have not already. If you did already root your phone you need to check to see if you still have S-OFF and a recovery that you can use to get CM loaded.
Boot to recovery (hold Vol - and Power button)
What version of HBoot is it?
Cardinal Rule:
Once rooted, never bother accessing the OTA section of your Sense ROM.
Sorry, I have never rooted and am a complete rooting noob.
[my reason is that I've had blown speakers, cracked screens, etc. and have had 5 different replacements from Sprint and don't want to void my warranty unless I can get it back to make it appear as though I've never rooted]
I did find that this Hboot version still seems to be supported with the new root methods. I have one real quick question, and I have a hard time sifting through the posts, threads, forums.
I want to root, flash a new ROM and want to be able to recover my stock Sprint ROM in case I need to send my phone back for the aforementioned issues. If I follow the root procedures and install Amon_RA's backup and backup the current ROM, I should be able to flash that ROM and get back to S-ON? or would I have to go through some procedure to get back S-ON?
Again, my apologies for posting what's been posted probably 1000 times, you can just link me to a thread....I haven't been successful in my searches for a definitive answer. And the "noob guide" sticky on the forum hasn't been updated to the new root methods, so I'm not sure what will brick me and what is usable.
yes, I will never OTA update after rooting, but in case I want to get back to a stock ROM from Sprint for warranty trade in purposes.
follow up noob question to rooting, all the proper radios and account information will be imported into my phone after flashing a new ROM? Or will I have to know specific radios, PRLs or basebands after I root. It's my primary device so I can't afford to be without.
Damn. Just rooted a few days ago under the assumption Sprint has moved on as far as supporting the EVO.... Dig root but I hope this doesn't create a problem when the update is forced on me.
You can always turn off auto update, and you can also hit cancel if the auto updater pops up. You do not Have to ever update your phone if you dont want to
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
m20120 said:
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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*noob alert* Those normally appear in the Development forum, correct? Is there a particular title I should be looking for?
No offense, and I really mean that, but you should not root your phone if you are that worried about the consequences. If you aren't willing to accept that Sprint may be able to tell you rooted you phone then deny you warranty repairs just stick with what you have. Once you get past that point then its time to have some rooting fun.
Seriously though, everyone is going to tell you how great root is, but I bet 60% or better never actually do anything with their phone that would have required root to being with!
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
mmark27 said:
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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Using older root methods (pre-Gingerbread), yes. But the new root method for GB/Hboot 2.16 installs a new, non-official hboot - 6.16. No one has been able to get the s-on tool to work or downgrade to a different hboot. You can flash an RUU that will take you back to stock, but you cannot gain s-on. Whether or not Sprint cares about the s-off 6.16 hboot, I don't know. Sprint is supposed to service rooted phones as long as the firmware is stock. If it's not, they'll RUU for you. You may have problems or you may not, kind of depends on who you deal with.
The revolutionary root method is still in a beta phase, what I believe they call a "developer preview" or something. Perhaps once it's released officially there will be an easy way to gain s-on.
I think that if you are worried about rooting or don't know why you would be rooting ("it seems cool" is not a legitimate reason) then you shouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
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my reason is that I'm sick of Sprint/HTC's flaky software that breaks things like wireless-n, my ability to stream music/contacts with my car stereo over bluetooth, icons constantly disappearing after reboot, Sense rebooting itself, etc. I don't care about its "cool" factor, I want control - its android, right? otherwise I'd just go get an ibone.
Thank you for that update on the 6.16 Hboot change and S-off/on status, its very helpful. Any thoughts on my question of new ROMs will know how to contact the Sprint network with all my information properly, or do I have to do something fancy to that.
I don't know...last month I couldn't root 2 or 3 weeks ago root pops up for GB 2.3.3 I rooted my phone and to tell you the truth I ain't gonna lie I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting...but I think once you try it yo ass ain't never goin back lol cuz I've been on CM7 this whole time and I'm blown away I'm gonna try out vaelpak RC2 tonight when I get home there's just so much you can do...but that's jus my opinion
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch, evO²·³·³
does anyone know what sense version this update is or is it still the crappy sense 1.0

how to root and 4.0.4 OTA update

Hi,
I just got the phone and have looked thru the forums and I have yet to find a definitive thread on how to root a ATT Samsung S3. Can someone point me in the right direction as the root hits I find all say my phone needs to be a I9300 and mine is a I747.
Also does anyone know what was fixed in the OTA updated that came out 4.0.4? Will this affect me being able to root the phone?
Thanks in advance...Todd
sneakyws6 said:
Hi,
I just got the phone and have looked thru the forums and I have yet to find a definitive thread on how to root a ATT Samsung S3. Can someone point me in the right direction as the root hits I find all say my phone needs to be a I9300 and mine is a I747.
Also does anyone know what was fixed in the OTA updated that came out 4.0.4? Will this affect me being able to root the phone?
Thanks in advance...Todd
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HEY!
Ok so im not completely sure which update 4.0.4 is but I think there has only been one so far right? the one that nerfs google search. Anyway, Here is a link to the guide that i used (after I did the update) and i followed the steps and the comment posted by danK in the comments. He said "If you’ve updated to newer software update, the stock OS will over-write ClockworkMod Recovery on reboot. To fix this, make sure “auto-reboot” is checked off in ODIN, then take the battery out when it’s done flashing in ODIN. Then enter ClockworkMod Recovery right away. " Doing this let me root my phone with zero issues.
androidauthority[.com]/galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-att-clockworkmod-recovery-99791
(sorry it said i could not post links yet but this is the URL but without brackets)
Thanks for the link, that is only how to flash clockworks mods, how do you root the phone? Can anyone share that info?
Welcome to XDA.
First of all, if you had looked in the Dev section you would have found what you were looking for.
2nd of all what you want is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426

Pre-Root Steps (Galaxy S3)

My question is because i have a HTC EVO 4G and I rooted it. I had ensure for it and i had to send it back to Sprint, and I looked every where and couldn't unroot it. The S-OFF is always there and found other people with the same problem. (I did tried the S-on zip and all that, new custom, Stock Roms but none worked) I ended up paying the $100 for a replacement EVO... Now I have a S3. (my EVO still on the closet)
I want to root my:
Samsung Galaxy S3
Model SPH-L710
Android 4.1.1
..............................But before I do that I want to make sure I can unroot it and run the stock rom, is there any file that I have to backup or anything before rooting it? My HTC EVO I rooted and loss 4G with the stock rom because I want suppose to backup something first accourding to some articule that i read..
Again, What steps I have to take before rooting my S3 in order to unroot it without any problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963812
Quickest root possible. Nothing to backup. Granted this is shiit you should know already
Pre root steps.. Open laptop/Start desktop. Watch video. Drink beer (if of age) download files needed. Plug in phone..
This is probaly one of the easiest/Quickest roots i've done yet.. Just follow the instructions and you shouldn't go wrong. Just ensure you don't flash anything for the wrong carrier or for the I9300 International version of our phone. And you'll be fine! (The things i mentioned could cause a hard brick rendering the phone nothing more then a paperweight.) :laugh:
milky1112 said:
Pre root steps.. Open laptop/Start desktop. Watch video. Drink beer (if of age) download files needed. Plug in phone..
This is probaly one of the easiest/Quickest roots i've done yet.. Just follow the instructions and you shouldn't go wrong. Just ensure you don't flash anything for the wrong carrier or for the I9300 International version of our phone. And you'll be fine! (The things i mentioned could cause a hard brick rendering the phone nothing more then a paperweight.) :laugh:
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An expensive paperweight! How many of your friends could say that?
teh roxxorz said:
An expensive paperweight! How many of your friends could say that?
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None here. I don't have any friends. lol..
Also, if you ever need to return to pure stock after you root all you have to do is flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099 in recovery.

will my phone be locked again if i update to 4.3?

To make this short, the guy that unlocked my phone said he cant unlock it because it has android 4.3 so he asked me if its ok to downgrade it, i said yes. My question is, will my phone be locked again if i upgrade it to 4.3? I forgot to ask him.
I dont want to risk updating it because i paid $20.
Also, he rooted my phone (i didnt know he was gonna do it but i dont mind), if it matters.
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To make this short, the guy that unlocked my phone said he cant unlock it because it has android 4.3 so he asked me if its ok to downgrade it, i said yes. My question is, will my phone be locked again if i upgrade it to 4.3? I forgot to ask him.
I dont want to risk updating it because i paid $20.
Also, he rooted my phone (i didnt know he was gonna do it but i dont mind), if it matters.
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I dont understand why you paying anyone when you can root your phone from many guides over here and all over the internet its pretty easy.
If you want to install stock without thinking search xda for stock 4.3 install that rom it wont unroot your phone so nothing to worry about if you want the stock rom.
Else i will suggest to explore more great roms out there.
I am trying out SlimBeans these days
Nuke_- said:
I dont understand why you paying anyone when you can root your phone from many guides over here and all over the internet its pretty easy.
If you want to install stock without thinking search xda for stock 4.3 install that rom it wont unroot your phone so nothing to worry about if you want the stock rom.
Else i will suggest to explore more great roms out there.
I am trying out SlimBeans these days
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I didnt pay anyone to root my phone. I paid a guy to UNLOCK it ( so i can use other sim cards other than the one my phone was locked in)
zynx said:
I didnt pay anyone to root my phone. I paid a guy to UNLOCK it ( so i can use other sim cards other than the one my phone was locked in)
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of you mean country lock yeah you are fine update to anything it shouldn't affect that

So, in 2016, is there still no root for my Samsung Verizon Note 4?

I just managed to get this device from someone the other day. Having been an iphone 5c user for a while, going to a 5c after my last frustrating and horrible android experience with an HTC inspire device, I am back on android for the storage expansion so that I can play emulator games- only to find myself pulling my hair out ONCE AGAIN after all the numerous conflicting advice/ threads/tutorials out here which I have countless wasted hours on already. I don't have time to read through tutorials promising a downgrade from lollipop to kit kat, in hopes of a root so I can pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my device... constantly stuck on odin failing and what have you, so just give it to me dry and clean. Please help as this is extremely frustrating and annoying.
Can I or can I not root this device? if so How? ( please provide detailed instructions as i don't know what the lingo is around here) If not i'm putting this thing right back on craigslist where I got it from. I am running 5.0.1
All I want to do is pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my note 4, thought I would be able to do that until sixaxis said it needed 'root access' :silly:
if theres a way to circumvent this, please let me know. I do NOT WANT to use a corded controller with this. Battery life is already kinda sucky on this phone so i'll ened to charge the device as i'm playing
Sunaj1 said:
I just managed to get this device from someone the other day. Having been an iphone 5c user for a while, going to a 5c after my last frustrating and horrible android experience with an HTC inspire device, I am back on android for the storage expansion so that I can play emulator games- only to find myself pulling my hair out ONCE AGAIN after all the numerous conflicting advice/ threads/tutorials out here which I have countless wasted hours on already. I don't have time to read through tutorials promising a downgrade from lollipop to kit kat, in hopes of a root so I can pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my device... constantly stuck on odin failing and what have you, so just give it to me dry and clean. Please help as this is extremely frustrating and annoying.
Can I or can I not root this device? if so How? ( please provide detailed instructions as i don't know what the lingo is around here) If not i'm putting this thing right back on craigslist where I got it from. I am running 5.0.1
All I want to do is pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my note 4, thought I would be able to do that until sixaxis said it needed 'root access' :silly:
if theres a way to circumvent this, please let me know. I do NOT WANT to use a corded controller with this. Battery life is already kinda sucky on this phone so i'll ened to charge the device as i'm playing
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Have not read enough, if you have a Verizon locked bootloader... Recommend to put it right away to Craigslist because no root has been found good luck
If you can deal with root on a temp basis, meaning it is lost every reboot, then go that route. Otherwise as EdrickMg stated, it is not available.
How do I know whether the bootloader is locked or not? I might want to buy an N910V, as its much cheaper than international/Indian version, but I need to make sure whether or not the bootloader is unlocked. Cause I can't even think about not rooting a phone in first one hour of purchase. What could I ask the seller to confirm about the bootloader?
If it's a Verizon Note 4, then the bootloader is locked. There is no permanent rooting method for this phone. People are still hopeful that there might be one coming, but I'm willing to bet that there'll never be a method to root it. This phone has been out since October of 2014, with no root method found. There is a temporary root method that will allow you to root your phone, but the next time you reboot, it's gone and your phone is re-locked. To me, that's a lot of effort for something that you lose whenever you reboot your phone, but that's just my opinion. Also, this temporary root is just root - it doesn't unlock your bootloader.
If you absolutely must have a rootable phone with unlocked bootloader, then look elsewhere.
The only thing that we do have is debloater, which is a method that allows us to turn off and block almost anything we want. For me, that's enough, because the only reason I'd want root is to uninstall all of the crap that comes with this phone. It doesn't get rid of the junk, it just turns it off and keeps it from running.
If you want root to be able to install an ad blocker or to install custom kernels and/or ROMs, you cannot do it on this phone and likely (in my opinion), never will be able to.
Okay, I don't understand all these contract things as we don't have them in our country, but Verizon Note 4 and N910V, they are different? If not, how come there is a custom ROM and kernel for the SM-N910V model? The phone does show a red screen where Verizon is written on it. I am not understanding this!
ithehappy said:
Okay, I don't understand all these contract things as we don't have them in our country, but Verizon Note 4 and N910V, they are different? If not, how come there is a custom ROM and kernel for the SM-N910V model? The phone does show a red screen where Verizon is written on it. I am not understanding this!
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There is a Verizon Note 4 Developers Edition that comes with an unlocked bootloader and it is rootable. I had to buy it straight from Samsung at full retail price. Totally worth it in my opinion. It is no longer available for sale on the Samsung site though
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If it's a Verizon Note 4, then the bootloader is locked. There is no permanent rooting method for this phone. People are still hopeful that there might be one coming, but I'm willing to bet that there'll never be a method to root it. This phone has been out since October of 2014, with no root method found. There is a temporary root method that will allow you to root your phone, but the next time you reboot, it's gone and your phone is re-locked. To me, that's a lot of effort for something that you lose whenever you reboot your phone, but that's just my opinion. Also, this temporary root is just root - it doesn't unlock your bootloader.
If you absolutely must have a rootable phone with unlocked bootloader, then look elsewhere.
The only thing that we do have is debloater, which is a method that allows us to turn off and block almost anything we want. For me, that's enough, because the only reason I'd want root is to uninstall all of the crap that comes with this phone. It doesn't get rid of the junk, it just turns it off and keeps it from running.
If you want root to be able to install an ad blocker or to install custom kernels and/or ROMs, you cannot do it on this phone and likely (in my opinion), never will be able to.
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I'm happy with a temp root, itll fit my purposes. Can you point me in that direction? and the debloaters direction?
yes sad, so sad that Permanent root was never fount! I am disappointed with Verizon over this......
DikStarrbuck said:
I'm happy with a temp root, itll fit my purposes. Can you point me in that direction? and the debloaters direction?
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It's all in topics in the forum. Easy to find if you look.
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
RedsonRising said:
It's all in topics in the forum. Easy to find if you look.
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
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Yea, theres SO much stuff in the forum, I honestly dunno what to look for. I'll keep at it, thanks
So what if u have a bootloader that starts with 15? I got 90% on kingoroot running a crap ton of random apps in the backgroundI thought I had it but bam root failed keep in mind I'm on marshmallow to anyone else get 90% are we really close or is it just a trick lol
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So what if u have a bootloader that starts with 15? I got 90% on kingoroot running a crap ton of random apps in the backgroundI thought I had it but bam root failed keep in mind I'm on marshmallow to anyone else get 90% are we really close or is it just a trick lol
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So your bootloader is unlocked already, correct? You need to have an unlocked bootloader and be running Lollipop, here's the thread that shows you how/what to do...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593
I used the instructions in that thread and didn't have any issues.
driguy said:
So your bootloader is unlocked already, correct? You need to have an unlocked bootloader and be running Lollipop, here's the thread that shows you how/what to do...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593
I used the instructions in that thread and didn't have any issues.
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Thanks bud I'll try it tonight! I gone like 6 pages into Google trying to find something that works I got a little confused on the baseband version part. This is a silly question but if I have mine on
N910VVRU2CPF3 and use Odin and flash version: N910VVRU1ANJ5 it won't brick my device? And no my bootloader is not unlocked yet
custom_roms_epeptic said:
Thanks bud I'll try it tonight! I gone like 6 pages into Google trying to find something that works I got a little confused on the baseband version part. This is a silly question but if I have mine on
N910VVRU2CPF3 and use Odin and flash version: N910VVRU1ANJ5 it won't brick my device?
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You'll want to flash the N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar .md5 file in ODIN as that is the firmware that Lollipop expects/works on. I don't know what android version N910VVRU1ANJ5 firmware is for. Flashing N910VVRU1ANJ5 shouldn't brick your phone but you will need to have it on N910VVRU2BPA1 to install Lollipop and root.
Trust me, just follow the instructions in the post I previously linked. It's all laid out for you in what is pretty much the easiest way you can do it. As long as you do it in the order listed, with the files provided, it will work.
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You'll want to flash the N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar .md5 file in ODIN as that is the firmware that Lollipop expects/works on. I don't know what android version N910VVRU1ANJ5 firmware is for. Flashing N910VVRU1ANJ5 shouldn't brick your phone but you will need to have it on N910VVRU2BPA1 to install Lollipop and root.
Trust me, just follow the instructions in the post I previously linked. It's all laid out for you in what is pretty much the easiest way you can do it. As long as you do it in the order listed, with the files provided, it will work.
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Nj5 was kitkat but I will flash the version you said I greatly appreciate it
Wait hold on my bootloader is locked will it still work? Sorry for the annoying questions I'm a little rusty cause I only get a new phone every 2 years so I barely ever root lol
Rooting this phone is pretty tricky and you may have to repeat the process a few times for it to work. Follow the guide custom_roms_epeptic posted, that's the one I used and even though it took me a couple hours to go from stock to Nseven, it did indeed work. I would recommend using the version of kingoroot found in the zip contained in that guide, I tried kingroot and the newest version of kingoroot and both got hung up at 90% or just didn't work at all.
custom_roms_epeptic said:
Wait hold on my bootloader is locked will it still work? Sorry for the annoying questions I'm a little rusty cause I only get a new phone every 2 years so I barely ever root lol
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Part of the steps you will be doing will be to unlock the bootloader, this is mandatory. If your CID starts with 15, you can change the CID of your device to that of a dev edition device, which can then have its bootloader unlocked. Like I said before, it's all laid out for you in the other thread.
driguy said:
Part of the steps you will be doing will be to unlock the bootloader, this is mandatory. If your CID starts with 15, you can change the CID of your device to that of a dev edition device, which can then have its bootloader unlocked. Like I said before, it's all laid out for you in the other thread.
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Okay so I FLash the downgrade and then unlock the bootloader
,? Yes?

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