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Decks 1.3d RELOADED

Ok so I went to MikG3.11 to give sense another try and I loved it for the most part.... But It felt like it was getting stale so I browsed around for some new roms to check out and came across an old favorite... BUT UPDATED!
And so came Decks RELOADED. Honestly, I love the changes they made and how it's all looking. However I'm having a HUGE problem getting this ROM set up. In Aroma Setup I choose my theme, then install options and I make my choices.... But upon install Nothing gets installed. Just the default apps. No Gapps, just the basics. So I tried to install Titanium and it said I could restore my old device name (Avast uses this i believe) so I let it restore.... Instant reboot and then there's no market or TB.
So then I decided to do a basic install and peruse through the ZIP and pull out the APK's I wanted and flashed. Worked perfectly. Was getting everything set up and was running out of space. So I flashed DTA2SD as basic install didn't do that for me and it rebooted as expected. Only when it finally did it's last bootup ALL my restored apps were gone and same with GO Launcher. Wtf am I doing wrong?
I have the latest Amonra and did superwipe twice as well as Factory Reset before hand. I cannot get this to install properly. I never had this many problems with original Decks 1.3d

Could you list the choices you make in Aroma? From beginning to end.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

Yeah sure. In fact I kinda have to. I just set it up AGAIN, but this time flashed the dta2sd that came with the rom and made sure it was there. Got all my apps installed and applied my 3g turbocharger setting 5 and redid my v6 charger to see what kind of changes I would notice (Didn't apply v6 last time) and rebooted...
AGAIN all my apps are gone and it's like I just wasted 4 hours banging my head into a wall. EVERYTHING I just did is gone.
So I honestly have no idea what is going on here but I have NEVER had this much trouble with flashing a ROM before.
UPDATE: Rebooted my phone for the 3rd time now during typing this out and noticed most if not all apps restored, are showing up. However Go Launcher is not there and neither is Play Store. Will post more info once fully booted.

Please do.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

Ok same thing. It loads some of the apps and 1/3rd (roughly) are still missing. Still no Play Store.
Decks ReLoaded 44 Mag RLS ->
Aroma Options steps and options are:
MIUI Theme (Don't know if theme is actually relevant, but I do like how MIUI looks)
Welcome screen describing origin of ROM. (Version .44 'Clyde') (Updated: may 25, 2012)
'I Agree page'
'Change Log'
Come to 'Install/Info Menu' -> 'Installation Menu'
Installation Type -> Custom
Mason-G-d15rc3-sbc FSO (Not sure if this is cause, but listing this anyway(What exactly is FSO?))
Available Apps Chosen:
AdFree
Adobe Flash Player (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Battery Calibration (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Battery Monitor (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Busybox Installer
Cache Cleaner
Catlog
CCName
Fancy Widgets
Go Launcher EX
Black Google Mobile
ICS theme
MIUIMusicV3
MX player (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Pandora
Quick Pick (To help with restoring JUST the data from TB)
Quick Settings
SD Rescan
SD Tools
ShootMe
Speedtest
NO TB (Read that it's incomplete)
WiFi Tether
Facebook
Flipboard
Skype (Had to use this swype when I originally used Decks)
Google Maps
Gmail
Google search
Youtube
Google Voice
SuperSU (Did not use during original installation)
All themes
DTa2SD
Trying it one more time, but this time not wiping. Will post back with results. Any and all help would be very nice. Thank you
Edit: Everything appeared to install fine during install screen. Infact, says it completed. Installer Status is 0. Don't know if that's good or bad. Will post logcat if needed.

After flashing again without wiping... I notice no change at all. Same wallpaper I previously applied is still there and no changes in app drawer. I am entirely stumped. After numerous tries with many different settings, I cannot get this ROM to install correctly. Is there something I'm doing wrong or a bad download link? I think I should just go with a different ROM? :C

You're going to have to read through the thread. All of those problems that you are having have been discussed, and fixes to them have been offered.
I've been running Reloaded since it was released, and haven't felt the need to flash another ROM since.

Let's start with this. Kernel FSO means File Sharing Off (I think, can't remember completely)
I want you to redownload the Rom, back up your SD card to your computer, Partition your SD to ext3 1024 swap size 0, move everything back, Wipe everything EXCEPT SD card, flash the newly downloaded Rom, Select only the apps you need, (no need to flash tb apps already backed up) then if all goes well and you get install status 0, DO NOT reboot, and go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, THEN you can reboot.
See if that works. Good luck man.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

death-by-soap said:
Let's start with this. Kernel FSO means File Sharing Off (I think, can't remember completely)
I want you to redownload the Rom, back up your SD card to your computer, Partition your SD to ext3 1024 swap size 0, move everything back, Wipe everything EXCEPT SD card, flash the newly downloaded Rom, Select only the apps you need, (no need to flash tb apps already backed up) then if all goes well and you get install status 0, DO NOT reboot, and go back into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, THEN you can reboot.
See if that works. Good luck man.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
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Thank you. And thank you too poster above. I fell so hard in love with Decks 1.3d when I jumped on the AOSP train. To see this and play with it for even a minute and I'm right back in the saddle. I will try all this, I would really rather not reformat and repartition my SD card.... but If I must, I must.
I downloaded a cleaner script and following the OP WORD TO WORD. I normally never use a cleaner script as I never had a problem flashing, but I'm gonna try it out.
PS: What is the advantace/Disadvantage to FSO?

Naturesretard said:
Thank you. And thank you too poster above. I fell so hard in love with Decks 1.3d when I jumped on the AOSP train. To see this and play with it for even a minute and I'm right back in the saddle. I will try all this, I would really rather not reformat and repartition my SD card.... but If I must, I must.
I downloaded a cleaner script and following the OP WORD TO WORD. I normally never use a cleaner script as I never had a problem flashing, but I'm gonna try it out.
PS: What is the advantace/Disadvantage to FSO?
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If you aren't using smelkusMOD recovery, you should. And supposedly FSO makes it faster or something. I don't remember the exact definition or differences.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

death-by-soap said:
If you aren't using smelkusMOD recovery, you should. And supposedly FSO makes it faster or something. I don't remember the exact definition or differences.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
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That's what I meant. I'm using that recovery and I love it actually. But, the problem being is I just did a fresh download, fresh install as described.... However I didn't format my SD card.... COME ON MAN THERE MUST BE OTHER TRICKS!
32gb is ****ing LONG to back up dude.... LOL

Well with must distaste for it, I'm going to reformat my SD card. Normally go with EXT2, But I guess everybody is going with EXT3 now. Was wary because of constant access to the card, deteriorating it and whatnot, but I will give it a go.
I still have a feeling this isn't going to work. I honestly think this ROM just does not like my phone for whatever reason. I've downloaded from GOO and DEV, and no matter what install options I select in Aroma, none of them ever install. I will post back if I get it to work

Well, it seemed to do the trick! Oddly enough wiping my entire SD seemed to let Aroma do it's thing. Any idea though guys why this had hindered Aroma from functioning properly?
Proceeding to place all my apps back onto my SD card. Only the important ones though,

Well, it seemed to do the trick! Oddly enough wiping my entire SD seemed to let Aroma do it's thing. Any idea though guys why this had hindered Aroma from functioning properly?
Proceeding to place all my apps back onto my SD card. Only the important ones though,

FSO- File Synchronization Off
Speeds up SD read/write speeds
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Glad it worked. Most likely was your sd card not being set up properly
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles

When deleting info off a SD card you never really erase 100% of what you delete till you format, after weeks, months years that **** adds up and causes issues. I format or partion my SD once every 1 or 2 months.
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BigSmoke53 said:
When deleting info off a SD card you never really erase 100% of what you delete till you format, after weeks, months years that **** adds up and causes issues. I format or partion my SD once every 1 or 2 months.
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sorry for being late OP, but i had the EXACT same problem with my latest install. fortunately it did not remove the play store so i just re downloaded and installed the apps. it is never a bad idea to keep a backup of the play store on Titanium Backup. I have had no problems since and my a2sd is working flawlessly. also, feel free to join the Deck's reloaded general discussion thread. there is a lot of good tips in the OP and there is a lot to learn there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734184

alaman68 said:
sorry for being late OP, but i had the EXACT same problem with my latest install. fortunately it did not remove the play store so i just re downloaded and installed the apps. it is never a bad idea to keep a backup of the play store on Titanium Backup. I have had no problems since and my a2sd is working flawlessly. also, feel free to join the Deck's reloaded general discussion thread. there is a lot of good tips in the OP and there is a lot to learn there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734184
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Sorry to be off topic, but dude alaman, the mods deleted your post#4 in the general reloaded thread!!!

MBQsniper said:
Sorry to be off topic, but dude alaman, the mods deleted your post#4 in the general reloaded thread!!!
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Was thinking death by soap is actually scared and alerted a mod
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Custom alarms/ringtones suddenly vanished/inaccessible

EDIT: Fixed! Posted solution for others' reference is here: My Solution
A few days ago, in the middle of the day (I don't believe I did anything, in between the phone acting normal and this issue coming up, more significant than installing the official Twitter app and setting up notifications for tweets from one specific account within it. I've since uninstalled that app, but it didn't fix this issue; no idea if it's even to blame), my Nexus randomly decided to 'forget' all of my custom alarms and notifications. In the alarms section, the "Ringtone" for each of my alarms changed to the name "298" and sounds like a generic alarm clock beep, unlike any of the default alarms you can choose from on the phone:
(At this point, I'd love to share the screenshot I took to show what I mean, but the forum won't allow me to post any outside links until I've made 10 posts, so I hope my text description is clear enough)
When I tap "Ringtone" to try and re-instate one of the .mp3 files I had put in my "Alarms" folder, only the defaults are available to choose from (and, again, none of them sound like whatever this 298 is either, which is weird).
Astro has no trouble 'seeing' my .mp3's in the "Alarms" folder, so it isn't like the phone suddenly lost awareness of the files themselves.
What in the word could cause something like this, and is there any way to fix it?
The only customizations I'm using are a (I'm sorry, I can't remember which) custom ROM of Jelly Bean that was 'normal' except for being pre-rooted (and a few other 'back-end' things like deoxy-whatever, heh), and a mod to change how the battery looks.
Help?

Not sure what the rules on bumping are, but I have a feeling that from the level of activity, if I don't bump it now, it will never be seen by anyone who could possibly help me fix this problem again.

Radomly? Ummm, try flashing stock rom to see if the problem persists.

buzzcomp said:
Radomly? Ummm, try flashing stock rom to see if the problem persists.
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I have a feeling resetting everything will fix things, but I consider that a last resort, because of how much work it'd take to restore everything to the way I have it...

ClefAria said:
I have a feeling resetting everything will fix things, but I consider that a last resort, because of how much work it'd take to restore everything to the way I have it...
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Try re-flasing the current rom without wiping your data/factory reset
1. Boot into recovery
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik cache
3. Install the rom
4. Install gapps
5. Reboot

buzzcomp said:
Try re-flasing the current rom without wiping your data/factory reset
1. Boot into recovery
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik cache
3. Install the rom
4. Install gapps
5. Reboot
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I have to track down what ROM I used again (it was from this site), then...also, what's "gapps"? I don't remember ever installing that--maybe that's one of the things that the ROM I used already included?

ClefAria said:
I have to track down what ROM I used again (it was from this site), then...also, what's "gapps"? I don't remember ever installing that--maybe that's one of the things that the ROM I used already included?
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I think its bigixie. Then you don't have to install gapps (google applications package - play store, talk, gmail, etc)
Don't forget to do a nandroid back first.

I have the same exact problem.
My two custom ringtones are not seen by any Music Player and I can't set them as ringtones but I see them in Solid Explorer.

Fixed!
So my friend suggested something that randomly worked. I plugged the phone into my PC, going into its storage as a media device, blah blah blah, and copied my Alarms, Ringtones (my ringtone had also 'vanished'), and Notifications folders to my PC, then deleted them off the phone, then moved them back from PC to the phone.
Voila, all was well again.
I still think that Twitter app had something to do with it...it's the only thing of significance I had done with my phone that day, and the only thing I did that day that I had never done with my Nexus before.
Wanted to post this so that others know of a (hopefully effective) solution if they have an issue like this.

Do you or did you have ROM Manager installed? If you do, that's the likely culprit.
It has a bug that does exactly what you describe. So if so, be sure to send them an email and tell them.

Cyanogenmod help

I've looked through the forums for hours now and according to the noob video made by xda. I'm asking for help. I have an at&t Samsung galaxy s3 with the CyanogenMod installed (as the title implies) and to be honest its not worth the hastle. I'm having problems left and right. First off, the camera app that comes with the phone is missing. Or if theres a custom one. Its not included. I'm aware that I can find and install an external apk but I'll get to the problem with that in a bit. I followed very detailed instructions on installing the cyanogenmod and gapps and everything was fine (stable version) but the notifications suggested I update the mod so I did. Now I have the camera but my play store will not work. It opens for a split second then closes. Also, the file manager is gone. So I downloaded multiple file managers and it seems after first use that they can no longer open anything. I can't even access the files. I checked the superuser allowed and disallowed apps and everything seems fine. Now with the apk problem. Almost any apk I download will not install on my phone. Sorry for the erratic problems just jumbled everywhere in this post but I'm using my phone to write this so its a bit difficult to organize. Any feedback would greatly be appreciated. A link to a post already like this (which I couldn't find) or a link to a tutorial maybe or troubleshooting these problems. I will delete this post as soon as I find a solution so I don't use up space on the forums with a somewhat personal problem. Thanks in advance!
Using AT&T SAMSUNG Galaxy S3-SGH-I747

GoLordNibbler said:
I've looked through the forums for hours now and according to the noob video made by xda. I'm asking for help. I have an at&t Samsung galaxy s3 with the CyanogenMod installed (as the title implies) and to be honest its not worth the hastle. I'm having problems left and right. First off, the camera app that comes with the phone is missing. Or if theres a custom one. Its not included. I'm aware that I can find and install an external apk but I'll get to the problem with that in a bit. I followed very detailed instructions on installing the cyanogenmod and gapps and everything was fine (stable version) but the notifications suggested I update the mod so I did. Now I have the camera but my play store will not work. It opens for a split second then closes. Also, the file manager is gone. So I downloaded multiple file managers and it seems after first use that they can no longer open anything. I can't even access the files. I checked the superuser allowed and disallowed apps and everything seems fine. Now with the apk problem. Almost any apk I download will not install on my phone. Sorry for the erratic problems just jumbled everywhere in this post but I'm using my phone to write this so its a bit difficult to organize. Any feedback would greatly be appreciated. A link to a post already like this (which I couldn't find) or a link to a tutorial maybe or troubleshooting these problems. I will delete this post as soon as I find a solution so I don't use up space on the forums with a somewhat personal problem. Thanks in advance!
Using AT&T SAMSUNG Galaxy S3-SGH-I747
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Go in application settings and delete your play store's data/cache. That should fix it.
Without it, it's kinda hard to install apps unless you sideload. If you do sideload, you need to allow it in your settings (security I believe).

if you're using the stable version of CM
you might have to go to Date & Time setting
and fix the date on there in order to make play store works
and everything you say about camera, it is weird indeed because not only CM, every rom out there should include a camera app
if that problem still exists for you, you might want to clean/wipe everything, from cache to system and then flash the rom again

Thank you guys. I tried wiping the cache and it still didn't work. I don't mind side loading which is what I've been doing but its not ideal. I can only search for the exact app(s) I want rather than exploring via play store. Also, you guys didn't mention the problem with the file managers not working after first try. If you have any feedback it'd be great. I would like to keep the cyanogenmod but its just not worth the time and effort (opinion). If I can't fix the problem or find a solution I'll just go back to my phones stock UI because even though I think flashing ROMs is awesome. It really isn't worth frustrating myself with something that's an option and not a necessity. Thanks in advance for feedback.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747

Have you tried a factory reset?

GoLordNibbler said:
Thank you guys. I tried wiping the cache and it still didn't work. I don't mind side loading which is what I've been doing but its not ideal. I can only search for the exact app(s) I want rather than exploring via play store. Also, you guys didn't mention the problem with the file managers not working after first try. If you have any feedback it'd be great. I would like to keep the cyanogenmod but its just not worth the time and effort (opinion). If I can't fix the problem or find a solution I'll just go back to my phones stock UI because even though I think flashing ROMs is awesome. It really isn't worth frustrating myself with something that's an option and not a necessity. Thanks in advance for feedback.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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the file manager part is really weird.
if you clean install, especially the stable version, everything should works just fine
however, it sounds like bad install though
how about this this
Download Titanium Backup and wipe data + cache for file manager only and see if it works
if not, try the longer way
download stock att rom(4.1.1)
go to recovery, wipe everything
go to download mode
flash stock rom with odin
restart to recovery, wipe dalvik and cache
root the phone
Re-Download CM10 stable
go to recovery, wipe everything, including System
flash cm10
reboot and see if everything works

Yeah I've tried a factory reset. It only deleted my user data not really resetting the phone. Thank you pcchano (sorry if I got name wrong) I'll try and erase everything and reinstall from scratch but its not my first time using custom ROMs so I'm sure I did it right but I'll give it a go. Also, someone told me that I need to completely wipe any data associated with Google wallet before I root or else play store will not work. Has anyone tried out this theory or know anything about it? It doesn't make sense to me seeing as wallet is saved server side beside the basic user data stored on the phone. But please let me know. You guys are all very helpful thanks for the feedback.
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Also, I've never had to wipe dalvik before? Could that be my problem? I also noticed that when I updated cm the info panel said 'experimental' even though I chose the stable version to start with? Could some of these problems be associated with cm rather than blaming it on my phone? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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GoLordNibbler said:
Also, I've never had to wipe dalvik before? Could that be my problem? I also noticed that when I updated cm the info panel said 'experimental' even though I chose the stable version to start with? Could some of these problems be associated with cm rather than blaming it on my phone? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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i have like 2 s3 using CM10 stable version and no problem with it (other than the play store wouldn't connect due to the date in setting wasn't correct) while I myself am using CM10.1 and other than the bugs that come with CM10.1 or google source code, it is a functional rom
so i would rather say, it is your phone
and you should always wipe dalvik cache along with cache partition before flashing new rom.

OK pcshano thanks very much. I'll just erase everything and start from scratch. Thanks everyone who helped me. This forum and you people are awesome. I'll delete this post as soon as I reinstall the ROM to make sure it worked. Thanks again!
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The stable cm is of the 10 variety. The experimental builds are 10.1 if I'm not mistaken. In which case you should only need to flash the appropriate gapps package to get the play store functioning and camera as well. The file manager issue I don't know beyond the external sd card being a bit sketchy on 4.2 builds. Are you using an external sd card? Start with a fresh flash of 10.1 if you want to go with that, flash a 4.2 gapps zip and see what happens from there.
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[Q] Insufficient Storage Available problem

OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.

OK well let me ask something differently then and maybe I can get some help. Being that I'm new I need 9 new posts before I can go to the devs page and ask there anyway...
Does anyone know what folders/files are critical to keep on the device? I can nuke the rest and try again.
Would starting with a blank SD card make difference?
Thanks again.

Well not really the external sd card is only for apps moved to sd card. You should just fully flash and start over. That is what I have had to do. I hope this helps you out.
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bluesmantj said:
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
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but the idea of what is happening here is not making sence I do not get why a full wipe and full reflash would not fix your issue here if you are doing it all right.
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From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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tiny4579 said:
From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!

bluesmantj said:
Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
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Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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tiny4579 said:
Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore

bluesmantj said:
No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
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Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.

Sounds similar to me. I can only fit about 30 apps. Most are small but I do have chrome. I swear I had more before jumping to 4.x. That is why I was considering a datamedia build but I haven't had time lately to play with it.
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tiny4579 said:
Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.

bluesmantj said:
Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.

bluesmantj said:
Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?

bluesmantj said:
Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
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If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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tiny4579 said:
If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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Oh cool, never thought of that, I've only ever upgraded as a result of running out of space or things slowing down so I've never really wanted to back up and restore those before.
Right... So factory wipe
install cm11/gapps
only terminal emulator installed...
/data size 748M Used 109.8M Free 638.2M
/data/data size 149M Used 29.3M Free 119.7M
Although this is a huge decrease...
connecting as USB shows that basically all of the files on the phone itself remain, so the factory reset essentially doesn't wipe any of the data from the phone?????
Thanks again!

When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd

bluesmantj said:
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?

bluesmantj said:
Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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putting a magnet to a piece of flash storage does not destroy it, also from that used info it looks like it is just the data from the gapps... Try going into recovery and doing an advanced wipe, then checking everything but external sd and swiping to wipe

So it seems like we never really came to a solution here.
Has anyone tried increasing the sizes of these partitions. The /data/data only being 150mb is really limiting. Facebook likes to take 50mbs on it's own. I wondered if it would be possible to increase the storage of the internal partition and that /data/data folder. For most of us the purchasing of a large SD card for storing music and pictures and stuff is no big deal, if I could devote more of the internal storage to applications that would be awesome.

[Q] Need advice for flashing GApps onto stock Desire 816t

I got the phone as a gift from my uncle in China, it's working fine except I need google apps. From what I've read here and elsewhere I can download the correct version of GApps for my version of android and simply flash it by saving it going into the SD card and entering recovery mode.
I have some questions:
Is there a specific GApps file for the Desire 816 or can I just use any one such as from team android for 4.4 KitKat?
Will this procedure void warranty and how risky is it?
Should I do a back up of the stock OS? Nandroid requires root access and I don't want to root the phone unnecessarily. Also the methods for system back up without root such as holo backup seem unreliable for some devices. Has anyone done a back up for the Desire 816 with holo/Ultimate Backup Tool?
Device Specifications
Android Version: 4.4.2
HTC Sense 5.5
ROM 1.31.1403.1
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-g77ac3fc
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SMP PREEMPT

Chiarro said:
I got the phone as a gift from my uncle in China, it's working fine except I need google apps. From what I've read here and elsewhere I can download the correct version of GApps for my version of android and simply flash it by saving it going into the SD card and entering recovery mode.
I have some questions:
Is there a specific GApps file for the Desire 816 or can I just use any one such as from team android for 4.4 KitKat?
Will this procedure void warranty and how risky is it?
Should I do a back up of the stock OS? Nandroid requires root access and I don't want to root the phone unnecessarily. Also the methods for system back up without root such as holo backup seem unreliable for some devices. Has anyone done a back up for the Desire 816 with holo/Ultimate Backup Tool?
Device Specifications
Android Version: 4.4.2
HTC Sense 5.5
ROM 1.31.1403.1
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-g77ac3fc
[email protected] # 1
SMP PREEMPT
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If you want to install the Gaaps, you should have clockworkmod recovery for sure, which requires unlocking your bootloader and rooting. Once you do that you will loose warranty. But do you really think that you ever claim for warranty ? I have used 11 smart phones so far and never went back to the vendor for any issues. I completely relied on XDA forum and never got disheartened. Anyways, thats your choice, whether to live without google apps in your smartphone until your warranty period expires and live like a king by rooting and installing the gapps? If you choose the later option, then start with unlocking the bootloader, followed by rooting, followed by custom recovery installation and then gaaps zip installation.
Btw, use the gapps from the following link http://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=10238 rather than the one you found that are for cyanogenmod roms.

vbrsekhar said:
If you want to install the Gaaps, you should have clockworkmod recovery for sure, which requires unlocking your bootloader and rooting. Once you do that you will loose warranty. But do you really think that you ever claim for warranty ? I have used 11 smart phones so far and never went back to the vendor for any issues. I completely relied on XDA forum and never got disheartened. Anyways, thats your choice, whether to live without google apps in your smartphone until your warranty period expires and live like a king by rooting and installing the gapps? If you choose the later option, then start with unlocking the bootloader, followed by rooting, followed by custom recovery installation and then gaaps zip installation.
Btw, use the gapps from the following link http://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=10238 rather than the one you found that are for cyanogenmod roms.
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Thanks for the advice. I wound up rooting the phone with Clockwork Recovery Mod. I've tried flashing the gapps-kk-20140606-signed.zip file that you linked, the flashing completes successfully and the phone boots. However as soon as I try to go past the lock screen the error message "Setup wizard has stopped working" is repeated on loop. I did a system restore, tried a package from here to the same effect. I saw a post where someone had a similar issue and did something along the lines of wiping user data and dalvik however for the life of me I can't find it again.
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Nevermind, I did a full system restore, wiped Dalvik, Cache, User Data then flashed the modular gapps package I got from the second link I mentioned. I then wiped everything again and started the phone. Went through initial set up and now everything seems fine. Will update if google apps starts playing up.
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Play store doesn't work properly Will try again in the morning using the package you suggested.

Chiarro said:
Thanks for the advice. I wound up rooting the phone with Clockwork Recovery Mod. I've tried flashing the gapps-kk-20140606-signed.zip file that you linked, the flashing completes successfully and the phone boots. However as soon as I try to go past the lock screen the error message "Setup wizard has stopped working" is repeated on loop. I did a system restore, tried a package from here to the same effect. I saw a post where someone had a similar issue and did something along the lines of wiping user data and dalvik however for the life of me I can't find it again.
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Nevermind, I did a full system restore, wiped Dalvik, Cache, User Data then flashed the modular gapps package I got from the second link I mentioned. I then wiped everything again and started the phone. Went through initial set up and now everything seems fine. Will update if google apps starts playing up.
EDIT # 2
Play store doesn't work properly Will try again in the morning using the package you suggested.
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Sorry to note the hiccups you are facing dude. I should have told you about setupwizard thingy, which I learnt about it ages ago. My sincere apologies. Flashing gapps on chinese roms will corrupt the existing setup wizard. So the work around for this is to, backup that system apk, using titanium backup or any other popular ones and then reinstall it once the gapps are installed. But now that you confirmed it working, I am now bit relaxed. But yeah so sorry for that.
Re your play store apk, Google has updated his play store apk recently. Try the new version apk from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...issions-bigger-buttons-and-more-apk-download/ and then go to Apps, playstore and delete data and cache. Wipe dalvik cache (optional) from the recovery and then try if it works. I am sure it should work without having to delete all this caches and data, but yours being chinese version mobile and had troubles before with it, try those tricks.
All the best.

vbrsekhar said:
Sorry to note the hiccups you are facing dude. I should have told you about setupwizard thingy, which I learnt about it ages ago. My sincere apologies. Flashing gapps on chinese roms will corrupt the existing setup wizard. So the work around for this is to, backup that system apk, using titanium backup or any other popular ones and then reinstall it once the gapps are installed. But now that you confirmed it working, I am now bit relaxed. But yeah so sorry for that.
Re your play store apk, Google has updated his play store apk recently. Try the new version apk from http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...issions-bigger-buttons-and-more-apk-download/ and then go to Apps, playstore and delete data and cache. Wipe dalvik cache (optional) from the recovery and then try if it works. I am sure it should work without having to delete all this caches and data, but yours being chinese version mobile and had troubles before with it, try those tricks.
All the best.
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Thanks again, I followed your advice and my apps now seem to be working ok. I think play store is a little unstable still, I occasionally get errors attempting to download apps (Error 904 I think) but those go away if I just restart the download. I had Facebook messenger force close once but that was when it was going through its tutorial mode. It's now also working fine.
Unfortunately this process seems to break the FM Radio app which is a minor blow, attempting to back up and restore with Titanium Backup gives the message "App was not installed". Same applies when restoring setup. I'm not sure if having a corrupt set up wizard will create problems for me in the future.
The only thing I can think of which would cause the problems restoring system apps is that I didn't apply the wp_mod.ko which is recommended as part of this root procedure. That's meant to allow me to write to the system. The instructions for doing so weren't particularly clear and everything else seemed to be working at the time so I skipped it (I know, probably not the best idea).
Any advice would be appreciated, however right now I'm pretty happy with the rest of my phone working with google apps! I'm also investigating whether spiritFM will work as an alternative to the stock radio app.

Chiarro said:
Thanks again, I followed your advice and my apps now seem to be working ok. I think play store is a little unstable still, I occasionally get errors attempting to download apps (Error 904 I think) but those go away if I just restart the download. I had Facebook messenger force close once but that was when it was going through its tutorial mode. It's now also working fine.
Unfortunately this process seems to break the FM Radio app which is a minor blow, attempting to back up and restore with Titanium Backup gives the message "App was not installed". Same applies when restoring setup. I'm not sure if having a corrupt set up wizard will create problems for me in the future.
The only thing I can think of which would cause the problems restoring system apps is that I didn't apply the wp_mod.ko which is recommended as part of this root procedure. That's meant to allow me to write to the system. The instructions for doing so weren't particularly clear and everything else seemed to be working at the time so I skipped it (I know, probably not the best idea).
Any advice would be appreciated, however right now I'm pretty happy with the rest of my phone working with google apps! I'm also investigating whether spiritFM will work as an alternative to the stock radio app.
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Thanks for updating us with your issues. I think by your description, i can see that it could be cache's problem. What I usually do is, when you install any rom via backup, I try to do factory reset twice from the systems setting and security. This will eliminate all the cache issues that you are facing with google play and fmradio. If you cannot restore the factory settings for any reason, I would then try going to settings --> Apps --> find google play app - -> delete the data and clear cache. This will make you to re enter your google account again. Hopefully, your google play should work fine. Apply the same trick to your fmradio too and see if it makes any difference ?
Hit thanks if it works, so that others would learn from your experience and know that this trick worked.

vbrsekhar said:
Thanks for updating us with your issues. I think by your description, i can see that it could be cache's problem. What I usually do is, when you install any rom via backup, I try to do factory reset twice from the systems setting and security. This will eliminate all the cache issues that you are facing with google play and fmradio. If you cannot restore the factory settings for any reason, I would then try going to settings --> Apps --> find google play app - -> delete the data and clear cache. This will make you to re enter your google account again. Hopefully, your google play should work fine. Apply the same trick to your fmradio too and see if it makes any difference ?
Hit thanks if it works, so that others would learn from your experience and know that this trick worked.
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Unfortunately it didn't fix the radio. Play store was working though.