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RUU update question

Help, I had a quick look about and couldn't find a similar thread, apologies if the is one tho as there is a lot to look through here and may have missed it.
Story is, I brought my desire z about a month ago not sure what software version it had but I preceded to flash it with a downgraded version ( 1.34.405.5 ) with a .executive RUU utility on my Windows 7 pc. Just to get used to things, I have flashed many phones before no problem.
Now tho I found what I believe to be the latest official ROM from here:
But everytime I run the thing I get error 132 signature update problem or something.
I have tried it while the phone is temp rooted, permanently rooted all the Ian drivers are fine I tried different versions of Windows. I just want to get back to the latest version and be able to update over the air from now on, thanks for reading.

What RUU are you trying to flash ? If it is the new Egypt version, please don't do it, and see the thread in the dev section for reasons why.
My DZ came with 1.34.405.5 and I have successfully flashed the RUU of this version from this forum, no problems.
It would be useful to find out what the current version is on your phone. It will tell you in Menu->Settings->About Phone.
Also it would be useful to check which HBOOT version to have, and whether you are S-OFF. Put the phone into hboot by having it powered off, then hold Volume Down and hold Power till it comes up with a white screen with skateboarding Androids.
It is possible to downgrade a ROM if you go through the procedure in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503

Helo thanks for reply.
Im pretty sure the version i had on the phone phone was newer than the one i flashed on as i just wanted to have a trial run with a rom that definatly worked fine before trying custom ones ect.
Currently it is S-On HBOOT version is 0:85:0009 and software version is 1.34.405.5 (the one i flashed over the stock)
I cant link to the RUU i am trying to use but it says it is a WWE world/europe one and i also tryed 3 others just incase, all give the same error.
Version is 2.29.405.2 that im trying to get on my phone as i think thats the latest official one??

Your phone sounds like it is stock so far, so it'll probably only let you flash a ROM designed for your very specific model of phone. So if the phone was from a particular country, it will probably only let you flash a ROM from that country, not just any old WWE ROM.
So is 1.34.405.5 on there properly now, up and running ? If so then you could always root it and run gfree to get SuperCID etc, which will then let you flash whichever official ROMs you want (but be careful if it's a very new ROM that might not yet be rootable etc).
I'm not familiar with any ROMs starting with version number 2 though ?

A quick google for 2.29.405.2 brings up Desire & Desire HD links.
BE CAREFUL DUDE!!!!

Yeah phone is running fine, slightly less reliable than it was before i flashed tho but im putting that down to it being a slightly older version than the one that was on here before maby.
Im up for just sticking an official desire z ROM back on here and leaving it alone for now. If you could point me in the direction of a suitable ROM download that would be great, or is there someplace i can go and put my specific phones model in and get the factory shipped ROM back cus that would be even better.
That 2.29.405.2 update is for the standard desire and desire HD? Damn that could have turned out bad had it flashed to my phone.
These smart phones seem a bit more tricky to flash than the older phones im used to doing, is there a decent step by step guide you can link me to for help with flashing as i have come accross 3 different ways already.

If your phone doesn't have S-OFF etc, then you're only going to be able to flash very specific ROMs to your phone. Since we don't really know what original ROM your phone came with, I recommend that you root your phone (using the "rage" method) and get full S-OFF via "gfree". Guides to these two are below, along with a link to a guide to get adb working on your PC :
adb - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
rage - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228
gfree - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
Also check out this handy guide, which has a lot of useful info - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
You will come across a method of rooting called "Visionary". This is in theory an almost one-click method of rooting. However, I personally wouldn't recommend it, because whilst it works faultlessly for some, it goes wrong for others, and when it goes wrong it quite often goes very badly wrong indeed.
If you don't understand some of the stuff in those guides, then please post up in that thread on it, and I'm sure someone will be able to help you out. Best to ask questions first rather than try some stuff out and realise you don't know what you're doing.

[Q] A few questions before rooting

Hey guys, first time poster here and a bit of a newb to rooting, Android and smart-phones in general.
I've been hanging on these forums the past 3 months researching the rooting process for a Desire and all the relevant stuff that goes along with it. So please go easy on me. I've also read all the 'similar threads' suggested to me at post-time.
I'm almost ready to begin the process but there's a few bits of information that's got me pretty scared before I go ahead. I wasn't able to find much of a concrete answer/s to these questions, from Googling around.
Well without further ado.
What is the difference between GSM & CDMA and do I need to know which my phone is before proceeding?
If I DO need to know, how do I find this out?
My phone is branded (Orange splash-screen at boot) and locked to Orange network (Newly recieved contract phone).
I've heard that I may need a goldcard to proceed with the Unrevoked process due to the branding. Is this correct?
Another guide on the net (can provide link if necessary), mentions upgrading the radio on Orange phones can permanently break the wifi OR permanently simlock your phone.
Will I need to worry about this during the Unrevoked rooting process? And will this be avoidable after installing a custom rom. (If I get that far )
I read somewhere on these forums (I forgot where exactly), something about the newest Orange OTA update causing problems with the rooting process. Is this still the case or has Unrevoked been updated to avoid that now? Also, how can I check if I have that update?
I can provide all the information about my Hboot, radio and kernel versions etc, if you need it (I guess you will), but for some reason, I keep getting a spam warning as this is my first post. I can only assume the version numbers are being interpreted as IPs...
Well sorry for the wall of text, but I greatly appreciate any help I can get regarding these issues. I'm so scared of bricking my Desire and not being able to return it, if bricking does occur.
Yours a worried root newb!

1. We use GSM phones in the UK as we use SIM cards. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards and are locked/released to one network
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
3. This was the case a while back but I'd wait for confirmation before changing it
4. No as the radio isn't flashed during a ROM (unless stated in the ROM thread that it does)
5. Shouldn't be an issue, just get the latest version of unrEVOked from their website before starting

Great, that's most of my questions/concerns answered. Although the below answer has brought a new question to the front
EddyOS said:
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
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Unfortunately my knowledge of RUU is almost non-existant, other than that it stands for Rom Upgrade Utility and is used to upgrade the software on my phone? Right?
And forgive me if I'm being dumb here but, if
EddyOS said:
there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty
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and yet I
EddyOS said:
will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU
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then how can I do this? Or am I totally misunderstanding you?
Do I somehow use an application without root permission to perform a procedure similar to hdd ghosting?

Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM. To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
It's the same for me, if (for some strange reason) I'd want to flash a branded ROM on my Desire I'd need a gold card. Thankfully, I have an unbranded handset so I can get the stock RUU and use it without a gold card

EddyOS said:
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...

I have been flashing ROM's since I got my phone rooted last year and I have never bothered to S-OFF. It's not a requirement.
I have tried a number of ROM's (it becomes a bit addictive!) there is not normally a need to flash a new radio, just leave it be. If you are worried about it and the ROM requires a new radio don't flash it. There are plenty to choose from.
As for recommendations, everyone has their own tastes and likes. That's the beauty of modding. Just flash a few ROM's and see which you like. I have tried most of them, stuck with MIUI for ages, but am now on Cyanogenmod 7 Nightly's.

There is nothing to really worry about. There is a remote chance of bricking your phone for a start, like 0.0000000001% chance. Only way of doing it is disconnecting during say an S-Off.
As for the Orange issue. I had a locked, Orange Desire with 2.2 on it (the first update) and when I rooted and S-Off'd I had no problems. I also have updated my radio to 5.14.05.17 and have no issues at all. To be honest, I found issues to do with signals and Wi-Fi are to do with the ROM you install and the kernel as well which can be frustrating but fun as well.
As for choosing a ROM, choose one, flash it then see what it's like. It's purely down to what you like most about each ROM. I've been through so many ROMs in the past few months but now I am sort of staying with 1 ROM. I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.

thetasigma3 said:
So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
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Don't bother about S-OFF at the moment, you don't need it. Just get rooted and then look into custom ROMs for now

Ok I've taken a tiny step further forward. I'm at the point of making a goldcard but one thing concerns me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3 According to that it won't work with the 2.2 OTA update from HTC.
I know, I have 2.2 installed but this was already on the phone when I received it, so I've no idea if this was an OTA or not... So I guess I need a different method to make a goldcard now?

Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though

Hmmm tried using that tool and no joy... Get my img file downloaded, but then the tool refuses to recognise my phone, despite doing the appropriate change over to 'disk drive'. I tried re-plugging the un-mounting and re-plugging the usb cable. Still no joy.
I'm beginning to lose hope here... That tool won't work and the tutorial here says it's incompatible with 2.2...
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Been Googling around a fair bit and I can't find any information at all on downgrading a branded 2.2. Only information on people with branded handsets wanting to update to 2.2.
After a bit more searching, I found someone else with the exact same issue as me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370443&postcount=977
Only one difference though. He doesn't mention if he managed to flash a custom rom after his root. I'm guessing he probably wouldn't have been able to going by your post:
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
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A gold card is only needed to flash a STOCK ROM different from your original - it's not needed to flash a custom ROM. The gold card isn't even needed to root. It's just handy to have in your case as you'd need it to go back to stock due to the lack of an Orange RUU
I'm out of ideas I'm afraid, never had to deal with a gold card as I'm unbranded

Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
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Does that work a lot better then?
I used the method posted by thetasigma3 and I can't get OTA 2.29.405.5 but I can get 2.29.405.2. To get round the problem I installed the 2.29.405.5 RUU and rooted

Anyone who's debranded will need to use the RUU as the OTA won't go through

GoogleJelly said:
I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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Call me crazy, but why the heck would flashing a custom rom require you to unlock and send off? Presumably the sending off thing would've been for Orange to perform the unlock procedure?
Anyway, back to my main issue, I know I've probably tread the same ground a few times now, but I really don't wanna end up bricking, cos I overlooked a tiny element, or something.
Could someone confirm I have these points all correct please?
Goldcard NOT needed for rooting.
Goldcard NOT needed if/when I flash a custom rom.
Goldcard needed if I wanted to go back to a STOCK rom.
Only reason to flash a STOCK rom is if I need to send back to Orange for repairs etc.
Oh and thanks for the clarification on your earlier post EddyOS. About goldcards not being needed for custom roms as opposed to stock etc.
Think I'm ready to go ahead with the process now, but if I go ahead and something goes wrong, what's my safety net, so to speak? Presumably my battery would die on me long before I get a response here

What you have there is correct (point 2-5)
The unlocking issue was down to some radios causing Orange handsets to become SIM locked. If you're using an Orange SIM this isn't an issue but others who got an Orange handset but use a different SIM card found they wouldn't work.
This was earlier in the Desire's life and I don't think it's applicable now

Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.

Ok finally got the guts together to go ahead and run unRevoked. (Already had done the driver steps etc).
I've checked with an app from the Android Market, called 'Root Check' to verify root access. That's saying I do have it and it also asked for Root permissions on start-up, which it never did before root. So I assume that's a good sign. I also checked for the 'Superuser Permissions' app in my apps menu. Found it was present and clicked it. Started without any problems. So I guess that's another good sign.
So I guess my next set of questions are reasonable simple.
Does this seem like my phone is now 100% rooted? I think it is, but I could be wrong.
Do I need to install Busybox? Root Checker seems to like seeing it there.
Does it matter if I use Titanium Backup Pro or free? I'm guessing it won't but I'd like to be certain.
If I backup my current Orange rom with Titanium Backup will I be able to go back to that without a goldcard? My guess is no. I didn't make or use one for the root process.

1. Yes
2. For Titanium Backup, yes
3. No
4. You don't backup the ROM with TB, you boot into Recovery and do it there

kvphani said:
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
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Hey man, I downloaded that app and found a fairly easy looking guide on the Unlockr http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ . Just wanted to check, if I use that app plus this guide. I skip steps 1-6 right?
Ok gone ahead and done that now. Just having some trouble finding instructions on backing up my Orange rom.
Oh and now that the forum won't grumble at my phone info, here it is. Hopefully that'll shed some more light on my situation, if I need further help.
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-g29e526b
[email protected] #1
Build Number
2.17.61.3 CL274424 release-keys
Softare Number
2.17.61.3
Browser Version
WebKit 3.1
Model Number
A8181

[Q] Removing a rom, fixing a mistake, and getting to normal

I really have this huge problem that's been really bugging me all week and i cant seem to concentrate with it over my head. I am new to rooting devices and i was a little ahead of myself recently... I finally rooted my phone and over my excitement i just had to add custom roms to my Evo 4g, i didnt really understand what i was doing, i mainly followed instructions to most sites, mainly cyanogen, and got the latest version of cyanogen, i had troubles starting it up at first, it was stuck on the bootup screen for cyanogen (droid on skateboard with spark flying around) and it kept going black and reloading, i didint know what to do, so i took the battery out after a hour of waiting then i wiped my drive in fear of bricking my phone (i know i wasnt thinking) i did not make a back up of my previous point of time where i actually practically running stock, and i am still upset at that mistake, after doing a factory reset from the clockwork recovery, cyanogen finally booted up, but was missing alot of things, i.e. android market and so on... im now wanting to go back to stock and i have already got Son somehow, can anyone help walk me through this, id very much appreciate it!!

acidcobra2002 said:
I really have this huge problem that's been really bugging me all week and i cant seem to concentrate with it over my head. I am new to rooting devices and i was a little ahead of myself recently... I finally rooted my phone and over my excitement i just had to add custom roms to my Evo 4g, i didnt really understand what i was doing, i mainly followed instructions to most sites, mainly cyanogen, and got the latest version of cyanogen, i had troubles starting it up at first, it was stuck on the bootup screen for cyanogen (droid on skateboard with spark flying around) and it kept going black and reloading, i didint know what to do, so i took the battery out after a hour of waiting then i wiped my drive in fear of bricking my phone (i know i wasnt thinking) i did not make a back up of my previous point of time where i actually practically running stock, and i am still upset at that mistake, after doing a factory reset from the clockwork recovery, cyanogen finally booted up, but was missing alot of things, i.e. android market and so on... im now wanting to go back to stock and i have already got Son somehow, can anyone help walk me through this, id very much appreciate it!!
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The reason that you were missing things in Cyanogen, is because you didn't flash GAPPS (google apps), which are things like Market, Gmail etc. If you already have S-on, and you're sure you want to go back to stock, unrooted, then it shouldn't be too bad for you. One way would be to download a PC36IMG.zip, place it on the root of your sd card, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will flash the factory ROM for you. You could also run RUU, from your PC. Plug phone into PC with USB cable, and run the RUU from your computer. Either of those methods should work for you, and get you back to stock. Here are a couple links that might help you.
Complete list of factory PC36IMG.zip and RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu
Guide on how to Unroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Good luck.

k2buckley said:
The reason that you were missing things in Cyanogen, is because you didn't flash GAPPS (google apps), which are things like Market, Gmail etc. If you already have S-on, and you're sure you want to go back to stock, unrooted, then it shouldn't be too bad for you. One way would be to download a PC36IMG.zip, place it on the root of your sd card, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will flash the factory ROM for you. You could also run RUU, from your PC. Plug phone into PC with USB cable, and run the RUU from your computer. Either of those methods should work for you, and get you back to stock. Here are a couple links that might help you.
Complete list of factory PC36IMG.zip and RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060&highlight=hboot-0.97+ruu
Guide on how to Unroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Good luck.
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Thank you so much for a quick reply, it really helps, but one more question, i tried to run pc36img, but it keeps saying it failed because a older version was present, also, sorry for asking another, but i have also wondered this other method with all these other download links, there is alot and how would i know what one to use?
also! i tried running the first download and it keeps saying that my phone isnt connected even if it is? does it need to be in debugging mode or what?

you have to flash most recent gapps for market.

acidcobra2002 said:
Thank you so much for a quick reply, it really helps, but one more question, i tried to run pc36img, but it keeps saying it failed because a older version was present, also, sorry for asking another, but i have also wondered this other method with all these other download links, there is alot and how would i know what one to use?
also! i tried running the first download and it keeps saying that my phone isnt connected even if it is? does it need to be in debugging mode or what?
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Do you know what hboot version you have? If not, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will say hboot version at the top I believe. If you have an older hboot version, I'm pretty sure you want an older PC36IMG or RUU. If you notice, they all list different software versions (3.70, 3.30, 3.29, 3.26 etc). The 3.70 is the newest, and I believe you'd use that for the newest hboot versions (2.10 or 2.02) The older hboot's (.76, .93, .97) I believe you'd use either 3.29 or 3.30. Someone please step in and correct me if I'm wrong or misinformed. I'm also not sure if you need to be in debugging mode, I would try putting it in debugging mode for sure (I've never had to unroot, but have read up on how to do it) If you are getting the main version is older when running the PC36IMG, I would try a different PC36IMG, one with older software, 3.29 or 3.30. I've read many times of people needing to try different ones before they got it to flash. That's why there are so many on there, because different phones may require different versions, I believe.

k2buckley said:
Do you know what hboot version you have? If not, boot into the bootloader (power+voldown), and it will say hboot version at the top I believe. If you have an older hboot version, I'm pretty sure you want an older PC36IMG or RUU. If you notice, they all list different software versions (3.70, 3.30, 3.29, 3.26 etc). The 3.70 is the newest, and I believe you'd use that for the newest hboot versions (2.10 or 2.02) The older hboot's (.76, .93, .97) I believe you'd use either 3.29 or 3.30. Someone please step in and correct me if I'm wrong or misinformed.
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It is Hboot-2.10.0001

You sir [user above me] are correct. I have linked ya to a site with a lot of RUUs, and they list the version number.
http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
Download the RUU, boot into the bootloader [turn off then hold vol down while phone turns on] then select fastboot, then run the exe, and follow zeh instructions.

acidcobra2002 said:
It is Hboot-2.10.0001
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Which PC36IMG or RUU did you try? (which software) You may need to try a couple different ones on there.

Phone REFUSES to return to stock

Hello everyone, I'm running into a bit of a problem here with my sister's HTC EVO 4G.
You see her phone is a remanufactured replacement model from Sprint, and naturally it has a few minor problems with it. She wasn't thrilled with the battery life, so I rooted and flashed CM7.1 on her phone. She liked the rom and liked the extra battery life after I did some tweaking. Two Months later, for some odd reason, her phone will not connect to the data network at all. I flashed CM 7.2, same problem. Contacted sprint, where they refreshed the signal to the phone, no luck. So I concluded that it was a hardware error. Problem is, Sprint won't work on the phone without the Stock Sense Rom installed. I thought: "No big deal, I'll just flash it back to the stock sense rom" right? WRONG.
Never have I ever been so enraged by a cellphone. No matter what I do, no matter what I try, this phone absolutely REFUSES to go back to the stock rom. I've tried flashing several PC36IMG.zip files from the sdcard in HBOOT, and I have also tried several RUU updates from my PC while having the phone in Fastboot USB mode.
Quick Info:
Phone: HTC EVO 4G
Baseband: 2.15.00.12.19
HBOOT: 2.18.0001
Bootloader = Unlocked
Security = ON (S-ON)
Trying to flash PC36IMG.zip from HBOOT results in the phone loading the zip (with the little vertical progress bar on the side) and after loading completely, it just goes on it's merry way, checking for any other zip files and then HBOOT loads normally.
Running the RUU .exe files on my computer goes smoothly right up until somewhere in the update progress I get Error 155 (Unknown Error).
Now, it's my understanding that I don't need S-OFF to go back to the stock Sense rom, but I figured I should try to get S-OFF anyways. So I downloaded unrevoked and try to apply it from CWM, and it fails stating that it's not compatible with my radio version. Funny thing is, in all the radio lists for the HTC EVO 4G, I don't see 2.15.00.12.19 anywhere. In fact, 2.15.00.08.08 seems to be the newest one, unless I'm reading the lists wrong.
Either way I'm completely stuck here, and now I have a whining teenage sister screaming at me because she doesn't have a phone on a friday night. Go Figure.. Please guys, I know I'm a noobie here, but do me a solid. Please help me out, I'm stuck, frustrated, and I'm getting to the point where it's time to crack open a beer or 3 and say "f**k it".
Thanks in advance,
Alcolawl

you dont need s-off to return to stock..try the guide below in my signature to unroot and return to stock

XenonV said:
you dont need s-off to return to stock..try the guide below in my signature to unroot and return to stock
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Does it matter which RUU version I download? (I've been extracting the rom.zips from the RUU's temporary files). I have the most current one on my computer named: "RUU_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.67.651.3_Radio_2.15.00.12.19_NV_2.33_release_234563_signed". I usually take the Rom from that, rename it PC36IMG.zip, place it on a freshly formatted sdcard, and reboot into bootloader and hope for the best.

well, if you want the bootloader to be returned to factory stock settings then you can follow the guide below, BUT if you just want to UN ROOT, just copy a stock rom like the one you named, and flash it thru RECOVERY menu (install zip from sd card), dont install it from the bootloader (white screen)

XenonV said:
well, if you want the bootloader to be returned to factory stock settings then you can follow the guide below, BUT if you just want to UN ROOT, just copy a stock rom like the one you named, and flash it thru RECOVERY menu (install zip from sd card), dont install it from the bootloader (white screen)
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Sounds easy enough. While messing around and waiting for Dominos to arrive, I decided to flash MikG (first time doing so, so I wasn't sure what to expect). Lo and Behold, I updated the PRL and Data Profile, and her Data works again. She also likes how Sense looks more so than CM7. Aesthetics > Functionality in her book I guess. If it comes down to having to bring the phone to the Sprint store, I'll try flashing the image through Recovery instead of Hboot.
Thanks for the help man, really appreciate it.

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Sounds easy enough. While messing around and waiting for Dominos to arrive, I decided to flash MikG (first time doing so, so I wasn't sure what to expect). Lo and Behold, I updated the PRL and Data Profile, and her Data works again. She also likes how Sense looks more so than CM7. Aesthetics > Functionality in her book I guess. If it comes down to having to bring the phone to the Sprint store, I'll try flashing the image through Recovery instead of Hboot.
Thanks for the help man, really appreciate it.
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no problem :good::fingers-crossed:

S-Off affect performance?

I went ahead and did the whole S-Off process recently. Before I did it, Viper Rom ran smooth as butter. not a complaint in the world, then I saw the update and thought I read that I may need to upgrade my firmware, which is a PITA if you aren't S-Off. I didn't read the fine print that it was international (I have the Sprint Variant) and went S-Off. Now everything feels a bit laggy. I've done 3 fresh flashes, reverted to my stock backup image, and went back to the old version of Viper I was on prior to the s-off.
My question is, now that the device knows it is s-off, does it impact the performance? Is it creating logs now for HTC? I feel like if I undo the s-off, I will have wasted the money I just dropped into it. Is there a way to toggle between the 2? Or am I a crazy person? I was going to go ahead and do an RUU as a final attempt to get back the snappiness, but wanted to see if anyone else had some input on the matter.

southernstyle said:
I went ahead and did the whole S-Off process recently. Before I did it, Viper Rom ran smooth as butter. not a complaint in the world, then I saw the update and thought I read that I may need to upgrade my firmware, which is a PITA if you aren't S-Off. I didn't read the fine print that it was international (I have the Sprint Variant) and went S-Off. Now everything feels a bit laggy. I've done 3 fresh flashes, reverted to my stock backup image, and went back to the old version of Viper I was on prior to the s-off.
My question is, now that the device knows it is s-off, does it impact the performance? Is it creating logs now for HTC? I feel like if I undo the s-off, I will have wasted the money I just dropped into it. Is there a way to toggle between the 2? Or am I a crazy person? I was going to go ahead and do an RUU as a final attempt to get back the snappiness, but wanted to see if anyone else had some input on the matter.
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No S-Offing has absolutely nothing to do with performance. S-Offing just allows you full access to the phone. If anything it sounds like the firmware you flashed might be causing the lag if it wasn't specifically for your model. What I would do is find the correct latest firmware or RUU & start from scratch. I would go the RUU route since it would wipe the phone clean period and install the latest firmware. Not 100% sure if RUUing will undo the S-Off, I don't think so but again not 100% sure.

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No S-Offing has absolutely nothing to do with performance. S-Offing just allows you full access to the phone. If anything it sounds like the firmware you flashed might be causing the lag if it wasn't specifically for your model. What I would do is find the correct latest firmware or RUU & start from scratch. I would go the RUU route since it would wipe the phone clean period and install the latest firmware. Not 100% sure if RUUing will undo the S-Off, I don't think so but again not 100% sure.
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Running a RUU will not affect S-off status.

Robert's PDA said:
No S-Offing has absolutely nothing to do with performance. S-Offing just allows you full access to the phone. If anything it sounds like the firmware you flashed might be causing the lag if it wasn't specifically for your model. What I would do is find the correct latest firmware or RUU & start from scratch. I would go the RUU route since it would wipe the phone clean period and install the latest firmware. Not 100% sure if RUUing will undo the S-Off, I don't think so but again not 100% sure.
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Running a RUU will not affect S-off status.
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Thanks for the quick replies. I never flashed the firmware, but it might be worth trying to flash it. I'm trying another rom to see if maybe it was just that. I'll try it out for a day and if that doesn't work then I'll go with the ruu. Appreciate the response guys.
Coming back to HTC, I somehow got talked into a Samsung last year. Worst decision ever. So I'm remember how to customize my phone again lol

I would most definitely update the firmware for the device. It's always a good idea to keep your firmware up to date. Being S-off this is pretty easy to do, but you can also run the latest RUU, as well, and start from scratch with a clean install.

With a stock phone, with S-Off you will get a message in "Usage & Error Reporting" that your device is a test device & that regardless of what is selected, reports will still be sent to HTC.

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With a stock phone, with S-Off you will get a message in "Usage & Error Reporting" that your device is a test device & that regardless of what is selected, reports will still be sent to HTC.
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that is udove.apk. delete it from system and factory reset and that will be gone.
delete it from the rom zip your using before installing is better but if your completely stock (not flashing a rom .zip), the first option is what to do

Thanks for the replies. I did flash firmware and a new rom, and everything feels a lot better. Also swapped kernel. Thanks for all the info

My experience is that 1.80.xxx.1 and .3 is laggier then 1.30
this has to do with kernel changes from HTC in the official firmware.
I noticed this in the setup - in the first screen where you change language the background moves. On 1.30 it flows fluidly for as long as you bother to look but on 1.80 it laggs and stutter alot more and this is without doing anything.
HTC must have adjusted the official kernel to save power and thuss, it's more laggy (everywhere).