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Evo fails in freezing temps!? Or is it something else?

Alright guys got a really weird issue and I would like to know if anyone has had this problem before. So I was at the gym for about 2 and a half hours tonight,and I left my phone out in my car. I live in the midwest so temps are starting to get pretty low. About 30 here tonight. Anyways I came back out when I was done and my phone would not turn on. When I plugged it in it showed no led. So after about 45 min I pulled out my battery and popped it back in and magically my phone came back on. I flashed the new ziggy kernel last night and I use os monitor to keep it set to smartass but I don't know why this happened? I guess im just puzzled is there an issue with the battery in really cold weather or did the kernel cause it? If you guys could give me some input I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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I'm thinking its the battery since it is well known that batteries underperform under low temperatures.

Same Here...
I live in NYC, making a long story short...i left my phone exposed to the cold for a few hours and when i came back my phone wouldnt turn on either... no light, no charge, and after a bit in m pocket poof just started to work... I mean i know Everything has a Cold/hot temp, limit i think iPods are around 20 something degrees,,, i wasnt aware of the evo until now...

DarKEvo25 said:
I live in NYC, making a long story short...i left my phone exposed to the cold for a few hours and when i came back my phone wouldnt turn on either... no light, no charge, and after a bit in m pocket poof just started to work... I mean i know Everything has a Cold/hot temp, limit i think iPods are around 20 something degrees,,, i wasnt aware of the evo until now...
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Thanks for sharing sir. It makes me feel a bit better that was my thought but I didn't know for sure ill have to research the battery itself and see what temp it can handle
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Just overvolt it I wonder if we can do that via an app, AFAIK it requires a kernel level change

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Just overvolt it I wonder if we can do that via an app, AFAIK it requires a kernel level change
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Well I am undervolting with ziggys new kernel and didn't seem to help. I think the battery is just a battery period. The cells go crazy at 32 degrees.
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It's fairly well known that batteries don't do well in cold (thus why you see in car battery commercials "specially made to handle cold weather", etc. etc.) so that could be an explanation.
On a side note, LCD's don't do well either (think about it, Liquid Crystal Display). If you want an example, go in to Best Buy or something just after they open, while the building is still cold, and check out the LCD TV's; they'll all be lagging and fuzzy pictures.

Yellowcard8992 said:
Well I am undervolting with ziggys new kernel and didn't seem to help. I think the battery is just a battery period. The cells go crazy at 32 degrees.
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I said overvolt not under. It would make it run hotter, so the temps wouldn't affect it so much. Put it in an inside jacket pocket, that tends to get my phone pretty hot on its own.

I live in Virginia and occasionally leave my phone on my car. Temperatures have been in the teens and single digits lately. No problems so far, but I'll probably be more cautious now. Hope it doesn't affect my battery in the long run.
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I said overvolt not under. It would make it run hotter, so the temps wouldn't affect it so much. Put it in an inside jacket pocket, that tends to get my phone pretty hot on its own.
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Thats my fault, read your post quickly last night and didn't pay too much attention I guess I just saw "volt". Overvolt would not be a choice of mine though I would rather not risk frying my phone.

[Q] Is your Galaxy Nexus overheating too?

The back of my phone is really heating up with only moderate use. Only a few minutes of youtube or angry birds will get the phone hot. The hot spot is only on the right side of the rear camera, or the backside of the front camera, however you wanna see it
Has anyone had the same problem?

My phone gets warm playing wind up knight. I haven't experienced hot yet.
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when i've been using mine for a while and then make a call it is rather warm around the earpiece, dunno if thats normal or not.

Your thread title implies the phone is having a problem (ie. crashing, stuttering, FC) getting warm isn't really 'overheating' many mobile devices get pretty darn warm during intensive activities.
Are you experiencing a problem?

I just used my nexus as a wifi tether for my laptop for 3 hours, while charging off a usb cable and usually I get high temperatures usually when doing this with other phones, however nexus was cool to the touch after all this... haven't noticed much heat ever with this phone.... however I'm not a big gamer either.

Facing the front of the screen, the top right corner in an L shape seems to heat up quite a bit - from something medium intensive like web browsing.

sluflyer06 said:
Your thread title implies the phone is having a problem (ie. crashing, stuttering, FC) getting warm isn't really 'overheating' many mobile devices get pretty darn warm during intensive activities.
Are you experiencing a problem?
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No the title does not imply crashing of stuttering. If I did it would have the word 'crashing' or 'stuttering' in it.The title implies exactly what I'm getting. The phone overheat strongly in one spot , from very normal use. Not intensive tasks.
I haven't had FCs or anything like that so far. But it does get pretty hot. It is alarming if I may say.
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Facing the front of the screen, the top right corner in an L shape seems to heat up quite a bit - from something medium intensive like web browsing.
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Yes this is exactly what I'm getting. So its not only me.
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ok, so it is heating up... not overheating. Mine gets pretty warm too but no adverse effects so far.
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YDardeer said:
Yes this is exactly what I'm getting. So its not only me.
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I have a feeling there is something in that corner that is dissipating the heat. I have a battery temp monitor and when it was really hot in that corner, my battery temp was 40C (30C seems to be normal idle temp) - but the center of the phone where the actual battery is doesn't feel hot.
So I'm assuming the heat is drawn to that corner.
Another thing I noticed (comparing to my previous phone) is that even though it got hot, it cools fast as well.

I get the same issue as well. But it wasnt particularly alarming since my Captivate, Infuse, and Skyrocket did the exact same thing. I have used the captivate and infuse for a long time now. The captivate was purchasd on launch day last year and has been passed down to my girlfriend, infuse is still being used daily by me since launch day as well, and the skyrocket (least used phone) was JUST sold for the funds to get my new gnexus. All of these phones have the same issue. I just figured Samsung phones get warm but thats it.

My phone is fine. I don't even get warm unless playing a 3d game. Charging is unusually cool. And I haven't even felt warmth from heavy hspa use.
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to be honest...mine does seem to be getting rather excessively warm at the top right on both the front and back side...it's around where the RAM chip is on the PCB or could be around the CPU (which is more central but *shrug*). I cant think it's normal since i've never had a warm ear when i've been making a call with any phone i've had before!

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My phone is fine. I don't even get warm unless playing a 3d game. Charging is unusually cool. And I haven't even felt warmth from heavy hspa use.
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You lied to us.
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My GN can be "very" warm at the back where the rear camera is. By playing 720p/1080p video files. Heavy HW decoding I believe.

So there is something. Can't believe no tech news site reported this before. Giving how quickly everyone rushed out to point a flaw the GN.
Has anyone contacted any Samsung rep on twitter or something? Who do we raise our concerns to?

I'm wondering if i should get my phone returned as DOA (since i need to do that by monday) with the getting quite hot and sleep of death and random reboots :|
i havent owned a high end phone like this though, and it's personally my first android phone (other people in the household have had one that i've mucked about with) so i dont actually know what to expect from it really...

I watched a netflix movie over mhl. The nexus got fairly warm. Still no overheating issues or reboots for me.
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There is nothing wrong with it....... LOL "overheating" denotes your phone is crashing,stuttering,melting,burning or warning you that its hot....ect. So far nobody in this thread has this issue sooooo..... If the device is functioning properly then its not "overheating" as your thread title suggests. You should have put....does your phone get warm? Yes, just like computer processors they must get rid of the heat somehow this one dissipates it in the back just like most other phones.

Danny80y said:
You should have put....does your phone get warm? Yes, just like computer processors they must get rid of the heat somehow this one dissipates it in the back just like most other phones.
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except...the front is getting rather warm too. Doing simple things. Is that normal? Probably not. And excess heat + displays = bad. Also rather uncomfortable when you're making a call...if people use phones for calls anymore

[Tip] GNEX heat problem solved

Hi out there,
i bought my GNEX a few weaks ago, and its awsome. But there are a few minor things, i realy hate. One of these was the heat problem. My GNEX gets realy hot near the cam where the SOC is. I was just browsing a few min or ideling through Android and i could feel it.
Im using liqiudsmooth and franco kernel and Nova Launcher.
First thing i did to solve the problem was undervolting.
Im now an this stats:
1344 MHz 1200mV
1288MHz 1125mV
1036MHz 1025mV
729MHz 925mV
384MHz 825mV
That helped a little bit, but not that much. Than i donwloaded the app Usage timelines (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbHMudXNhZ2V0aW1lbGluZXMiXQ..)
i found that the Nova Laucher was using 50% of the cpu in idle and 60-70% when heavily used.
I restartet and reinstall, but no change. Since i switched back to the stock Launcher i have no more heat problems.
So may that can help
cya beamer

Useful info, however, one has to question your complaint of excessive heat when you're overclocking, kinda comes with the territory don't you think

Thats true
but i wasnt overclocking, i set the maxx speed to 1228, which is only 28MHz more than stock, so ther should be now difference. Another point is, the stock voltages of 1228 and 1384 MHz are equal at 1350mV.

HeHe!
I saw 1344 so was natural to assume o/c, I am completely stock on mine and mine barely warms up much, not that i've noticed anyway. However, I have come straight from a 0ne X back to a Gnex, and that used to really heat up. It was like having a bipolar phone. Sipped at the juice when on standby and raped the battery when on lol. BTW, Gnex is a way better device despite the specs difference.

Do you use the stock laucher?
yeah Onex looks realy nice, but it cost 550€, akku drains fast etc. Also i dont want to have a mobile toaster in my pants.

I was tempted to it by the specs of course, and it is a good device on the whole, but is riddled with unacceptable bugs. I got the opportunity to get my hands on a mint Nexus S and set about getting it up to date and onto 4.0.4 with the intention of using it as a backup phone. However, the more i used it, the more I liked it, and despite it being less than a quarter as powerful as the One x, it was smoother to use in the UI. It really got me tempted to get a Gnex again as my daily driver, so I did, and I'm not shifting back now, not till the next Nexus phone comes out.
Oh, and my Gnex is 100% Stock, non rooted, pure untouched google goodness
If it ain't broke don't try to fix it I say. And it works just fine for me the way it is...

My phone gets VERY hot during charging + streaming music via bluetooth and + gps with navigation running w/ screen on
i am on AOKP + Franco kernel. and using Apex launcher
will try undervolting i guess

Yes ure right, noot a quad or hexa or dekacore or a 59713546inch Display make a good Phone.
I has to be a good partner in daily use, u can rely on, and thats the nexus.
Back to the heat problems:
May there some other people out there, who have problems, that would be nice to hear ur experiences

kolyan said:
My phone gets VERY hot during charging + streaming music via bluetooth and + gps with navigation running w/ screen on
i am on AOKP + Franco kernel. and using Apex launcher
will try undervolting i guess
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Go ahead. That usage will make the device run hot regardless.

Absolutely, it's cost me a fortune in android phones to realise that. Anyway, for what it's worth, and to stray back on topic (apologies for that) mine, on stock, only gets mildly warm.

adrynalyne said:
Go ahead. That usage will make the device run hot regardless.
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Thats right, does it get hot in normal use too?
i think undervolt is an option but not the solution.
Another option may is to use only USB charge if u want to use the Phone while charging

beama said:
Thats right, does it get hot in normal use too?
i think undervolt is an option but not the solution.
Another option may is to use only USB charge if u want to use the Phone while charging
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Not if you're using the GPS - reportedly usb charging isn't fast enough to keep up (not tried it myself since my car charger works as ac)

Clancy_s said:
Not if you're using the GPS - reportedly usb charging isn't fast enough to keep up (not tried it myself since my car charger works as ac)
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Dude I can't even keep up with a wall charger if streaming live TV from the web and it gets hot as h*ll but it doesn't turn off or skip a beat so I let it roll I have warranty and insurance so I don't really care just saying streaming live TV and plugged into wall charger won't keep up I'm on aokp 35 and stock aokp kernel
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I think in this case undervolting is the only possibility. I dont know how fluidly the GNEX handle Maps or streaming etc when the max core speed is reduces to 1000 or 700MHz. May it will do ok and dont get too hot.

As long as the phone isn't ridiculously hot to touch you should be fine with it getting hot for 5-10min. Any longer and you actually might have an issue. If it burns a hole....well then...ya...ha.
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Hi Smokeey, you may right that when the nexus get hot for a few min, its in the short run no big issue. But hot means high akku drain which u want to avoid normaly.
Im working in a company who handle these special display adhesives and over a longer time the heat can cause yellow areas, which i dont want to have.
Beside that i dont like it to hold a device in my Hand which is so hot

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Hi Smokeey, you may right that when the nexus get hot for a few min, its in the short run no big issue. But hot means high akku drain which u want to avoid normaly.
Im working in a company who handle these special display adhesives and over a longer time the heat can cause yellow areas, which i dont want to have.
Beside that i dont like it to hold a device in my Hand which is so hot
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In case anyone was curious like me, akku = battery.

adrynalyne said:
In case anyone was curious like me, akku = battery.
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I thought akku was the bad guy in samurai jack?
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It seems to me that my gnex is getting very hot when using data connection (browsing) in places with bad reception like inside buildings. It get hot very fast near the camera in these situations but in other places i can browse internet for much more time but the phone stays cool.

stevar said:
It seems to me that my gnex is getting very hot when using data connection (browsing) in places with bad reception like inside buildings. It get hot very fast near the camera in these situations but in other places i can browse internet for much more time but the phone stays cool.
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I get the same thing. NEED....L....T...E
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104 degrees Fahrenheit, thanks Samsung

so my phone is charging I get a phone call yep hot as he'll burning up... I look 104f yeah that's real hot couldn't even talk on the phone, phone lags as hell, the screen issues with the blur I mean come on Samsung I love you guys but you really messed up the phone, I loveeee. the camera on the phone its amazing but still not worth all this... and don't tell me a update would fix this, a Damn 670 phone this should not happen never happen on my note 2 which is faster, another feature Samsung forgot Sheat
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Calm down. I doubt Samsung is reading this.
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Yeah bro calm down

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so my phone is charging I get a phone call yep hot as he'll burning up... I look 104f yeah that's real hot couldn't even talk on the phone, phone lags as hell, the screen issues with the blur I mean come on Samsung I love you guys but you really messed up the phone, I loveeee. the camera on the phone its amazing but still not worth all this... and don't tell me a update would fix this, a Damn 670 phone this should not happen never happen on my note 2 which is faster, another feature Samsung forgot Sheat
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You realize 104 F is not hot... at all.....
1) Laptops and have had electronic components built to withstand up to 100 CELSIUS for years. I'm sure your phone can handle 40.
2) If you can't talk on the phone because a little warmth is too much for your sensitive skin move the **** to Alaska because 104 is not hot by any stretch of the imagination.
3) My phone has no lag.... at all, so I don't know what you're speaking of. I can play NFS:MW for an hour, switch to Eufloria HD for another, then hit up GTA:VC for an hour with absolutely no problems. I can also scroll through the drawer faster than my S3 could respond, so it is much more responsive. Maybe you got a defective unit or you messed it up somewhere rooting or flashing roms or poking around where you shouldn't have... I mean based just by your grammar you're not that smart of a person, so I'd say user error is MUCH more likely.
4) If by the blur you mean the purple when you're in the settings, well yes. You've got me there. That is a minor bug that needs to be addressed, and will. The phone has been out for like 11 days bro, give them a ****ing minute.
5) No, sir, your Note 2 is not faster. Yes, it has a larger screen and slightly better battery life, but faster? No. Run a CPU and GPU benchmark and try to tell me its faster.
Give them some time to work out the kinks in the programming. This is how electronics work, nothing is ever going to be perfect when its being produced by the millions on a short time frame with 6 different versions for different countries with different hardware and 10000 different carriers trying to poke around and make their own adjustments to the software.
TL;DR: Stop crying, you're embarrassing yourself.

Just use the speaker phone.....

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Just use the speaker phone.....
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Good one.
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I hate when people say use benchmark look which is faster... man everyday use is what matter, when I'm playing games and my note 2 runs them smooth and my S4 runs them choppy there is an issue I'm sorry there just is. Now for 104 degrees being not too hot, wow really its beyond hot for a phone to hit, don't give me the whole laptop crap this is a phone that people use to make phone calls and the screen and the back just feels way way too hot. Just use the speakerphone what are we Apple "You're holding it wrong" come on guys give me a break a 670$ phone should not have all of this stuff going on. Then you're telling me oh download an app to fix the screen issues -.- , you guys may think this is over the top i don't think so when you buy something so expensive and it works so iffy, don't get me started on Shealth love it but keep restarting your steps all the time ... might as well call it Srestart ..... oh samsung i love you but you're killing me with this phone. I'm getting a replacement on monday I'll let you guys know how that one is hope its 100X better....

No, 104F is not too hot for a phone to hit while charging and being used. You have heat from the battery while charging and heat from the processor while using, add any case you might have put on there trapping the heat and it is still well withing acceptable parameters. In Florida ambient temperature reaches that through most of the summer.
And if this thread continues to be a flame/troll fest it will be closed.

Like everyone else had said, I dont think thats very hot. Thats around where mine is
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And if this thread continues to be a flame/troll fest it will be closed.
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Awesome lolz...
104° F is actually cool for a phone th that's charging and in a call. If the device is lagging out on you just return it if a reset doesn't fix the issue.
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I actually had this same issue on a white 16gb s4. Phone was powered off while charging over night. Upon powering it on the internal thermometer also read 104F. I suspect it was much hotter, given I have hot spots on my laptop case that reach that temp as verified by a thermal camera. This felt much hotter, though I didn't have the tools on hand to verify.
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I've heard a few people complain about their devices getting too hot, but most of them have had the white version. Is that what you guys have had? I have the black one and haven't experienced this issue at all. It does get a little warm when charging, but other than that, no issues here

Im shocked that no one has asked this. But...
Were you still virgin stock on firmware? Or were you on something you flashed?
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My phone gets to hot
Black version no root
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104f is not hot??? Hold that next to your ear and tell me it feels comfortable
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Actionx1 said:
104f is not hot??? Hold that next to your ear and tell me it feels comfortable
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Why yes, it does. Actually kinda like a nice warming pad on a winter day.

TeknoGodz said:
Why yes, it does. Actually kinda like a nice warming pad on a winter day.
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It's a good thing winter is year round.
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It's a good thing winter is year round.
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Well I'm in Florida so whenever I'm inside it's like a warming pad against the AC. When I'm outside I don't care because it's not getting any hotter than the air already is. Sound logic.
You do realize I was being sarcastic right? Regardless, that's neither here nor there. You can't make a thread and be like "Damn samsung my phone hits 104 F when I'm charging and talking on the phone!!!!111oneone"
That's not hot. Especially for a phone that's charging while doing anything, or using mobile data in any way, or playing games. When it hit's 60-70 celsius start complaining about overheating problems/return it. When your phone hits 100 degrees Celsius start worrying about the internals frying. Anything less than that stop complaining. It's a ****ing quad core computer that fits in your hand and is slimmer than a BIC lighter. Of course it's going to get warm. If you didn't realize that when you bought it you shouldn't be paying 650 bucks for anything because you're too stupid to have 650 bucks to spend.
For the last time, that's not hot at all. This thread is pointless. I'm done with it.

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How bad is the overheating and wifi performance?

I've a few posts about the heating issues with this device, and just wanted to get more opinions. I've also heard about poor performance via wifi )(and even issues with wired?) and would like to hear about that as well.
I'm surprised with similar hardware that is normally passively cooled (nexus 7) has heating issues. I know they run it a higher clock rate because there isn't a reliance on a battery. But I read the dev version ran even hotter and they addressed this in an update. The only way I could see addressing this via an update is by clocking it at a lower speed. I saw a video of someone playing dead trigger and at parts it seemed much choppier than my nexus 7, which made me think it's running too hot.
I've heard about people running it on its side and it runs cooler that way? I'm basically wondering if stock cooling is sufficient and any info on wifi/nic issues.

For me... Taking the board out of the case was the best cooling solution. That and my cigarette pack mod lol
The case is a crap design IMO and I also wondered why tegra 3 phones run better with passive cooling and no way for the heat to escape other than absorbtion.
The extra strain on the GPU when running 1080 also doesn't help. My monitor and TV only allow 1080, so 720 upscale isn't an option for me!
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I don't think it has any real heat issues, people just enjoy doing those kind of mods, (probably in the hopes that overclocking will be a possibility). the wifi and bluetooth though do seem to have issues, probably due to the metal case.
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Wi-Fi is shameful. My "gaming TV" is around 10 metres from my wireless router and OUYA (differently from Wii and PS3) cannot detect it, so I have to unplug the phone and move the router each time I want to go online.

The WiFi is unforgiveable, hopefully it's just a software issue. Wired internet is rock solid...never had any overheating. It does get hot, but Tegra 3 should be able to handle it.

I've only had 1 heating problem and it was my own fault (in a way). I currently have the kill processes upon exit unchecked, something that's required for certain sideloaded apps, and an app got stuck on over night. For whatever reason even though I put the OUYA in sleep mode, which should kill most of the apps (and does), it didn't that time. THe next day, the OUYA was hot to the touch. A quick reset fixed the problem and it cooled down in minutes. But to put that into perspective, my OUYA has never even heated up very much after 3-4 hours of gameplay and streaming 1080p video, only that one time.
As for wifi, after the last few updates, I haven't had any problem with connecting to Wifi and even the speed seems to be...tolerable, even with my router upstairs . I know this isn't the case for everyone, however, and I still tend to rely on ethernet as it just works better.

Thanks all for the info.
But I still get the vibe some say it's a poor case design (and causes overheating) and some say it's not an issue.
ut to put that into perspective, my OUYA has never even heated up very much after 3-4 hours of gameplay and streaming 1080p video, only that one time.
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Hmm if a runaway app was taxing the cpu/gpu and it got hot to the touch, I would think a game would do the same, I guess it depends on the game.
Taking the board out of the case was the best cooling solution.
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This is what I've read in other places and not too thrilled about having to leave it out of it's case.
Someone mentioned bluetooth issues as well. I hadn't heard that before but I guess it makes sense if wifi has issues.
I wonder, has anyone used wifi/bluetooth when it's out of case? Just wondering if the case is shielding too much.
I really want to buy a couple of these, (one mainly for xbmc) but I'll definitely need wifi where I plan to put it so I'll think I'll hold off to see if there is an update resolving this.

mine does get very hot, but not "overheated". processors get hot, its a fact of, umm, tech.
wifi works WAY better out of the case. i mean, 100x better. i've never had a bluetooth connectivity problem.

i wonder what the source on thes heat issues might be.
thechnically the t33 shouldnt be too much different from the t37 in my htc one x+ which i enabled to run all cores @ 1,7ghz, too
i have to say, the phone tends to get very hot while playing demanding games like ravensword etc. but never throtteled too much.
i wonder what voltages for the consoles are and about the max gpu-frequency. can anybody tell?
else i have to wait for mine to arrive.
was lucky to shoot one brown limited edition one with 2 extra controllers on ebay for just 85 bucks

Sufficed to say I've not really noticed the overheating issue as I haven't really been monitoring it. The fan kicks in fairly noisy now and then but I only notice it when it's on my desk when I'm doing wired ADB tasks. When it's across the room I don't hear it.
As far as the WIFI is concerned it's my opinion that it's more firmware issue than the casing. When I took original delivery I set it up in my kitchen using WIFI. My kitchen is about as far away from my modem as is possible to get in my house and it connected just fine. I used it for a while with no problem. When I scanned for wireless networks it picked up 7 if I remember correctly, this is roughly the same as I get if I scan using my Galaxy Note 2 or Nexus 7. This obviously included all my neighbors networks BTW. After a subsequent firmware update it wouldn't connect and wouldn't see my modem. I scanned dozens of times trying to find a signal but no joy. The maximum number of networks it has detected since is just 2. Luckily every room in my house has a RJ45 network socket so it's not a problem. It's fairly obvious to me that this firmware update had a very negative impact.