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Hi all,
Have anyone experienced memory corruption before? (I think that is what is it, or maybe it is mount point failure?)
The symptoms:
1) Every processes in the background force-close: Google Framework services, Titanium Backup etc.
2) Launching a program that saves anything will force-close.
3) Launching a program will ask you to reconfigure its settings again.
The fix is to reboot the phone, and everything will be working again.
I am running the latest custom ROM from cowithgun (w/o OC).
What kind of system log file I can view to see what actually happens?
Any help/clue is appreciated. Thanks.
before thinking your phone is broke I would suggest, take the latest stock Rom ,do a full wipe (also Dalvick cache) flash it and see if your problem is gone.
good luck
AdliHebat, do you have any info for us? Did you solve it? What was the culprit?
No. But i have not yet have a chance to revert stock rom yet. I am living with it right now. Need a reboot every day.
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AdliHebat, do you have any info for us? Did you solve it? What was the culprit?
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It has now become very irritating to me. I suspected corrupted memory card or something like that. The custom ROM is using swapped sdcard, and I guess my sdcard is not very good.
So I have:
1) Create Titanium backup
2) Copy back files i needed to my PC from my sdcard
3) flash back stock 2.3.6 ROM
4) Format Sdcard, format internal usb
5) Root using update.zip method
6) flash CWM
7) Clear cache, clear data, clear dalvik through CWM
8) Remove unnecessary apps and restore my apps/data from Titanium backup.
Seem stable so far.
If you suspect SD card corruption, you can use Mini-Tool to do surface test, it's free and can be used for loads of useful stuff.......
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
Just some update.
I have tried
1) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard swap -- problem still there. USB Storage unexpectedly removed.
2) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard not swapped -- no longer USB Storage unexpectedly removed, but apps will start force close, and in some apps it is telling you database read-only.
3) Go back to stock ROM -- rooted of course. Stable for 2 days.
4) Flash only oc-kernel from latest COW ROM to my stock ROM. Starts to have apps force close after 2 hours.
5) Restore back my nandroid backup of step 4, so supped to be the same like step 4. Hopefully this will last..
So no luck for me on running custom ROM so far. (I did make my own custom ROM without tweaks--remove and add apps and seems stable, but what the point)
Waiting for my class 10 micro-SDcard...
AdliHebat said:
Just some update.
I have tried
1) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard swap -- problem still there. USB Storage unexpectedly removed.
2) latest oc-COW ROM with sdcard not swapped -- no longer USB Storage unexpectedly removed, but apps will start force close, and in some apps it is telling you database read-only.
3) Go back to stock ROM -- rooted of course. Stable for 2 days.
4) Flash only oc-kernel from latest COW ROM to my stock ROM. Starts to have apps force close after 2 hours.
5) Restore back my nandroid backup of step 4, so supped to be the same like step 4. Hopefully this will last..
So no luck for me on running custom ROM so far. (I did make my own custom ROM without tweaks--remove and add apps and seems stable, but what the point)
Waiting for my class 10 micro-SDcard...
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Hi Dude..
I'm not going to make you afraid but i want you aware this issue
Did your phone doing force close to for only STOCK ROM ?
My friend phone have same characteristic as you..
Suddenly the phone had brick
It's not cause by flashing but by hardware also
I post in this thread
Regards
Rio Saputro said:
Hi Dude..
I'm not going to make you afraid but i want you aware this issue
Did your phone doing force close to for only STOCK ROM ?
My friend phone have same characteristic as you..
Suddenly the phone had brick
It's not cause by flashing but by hardware also
I post in this thread
Regards
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No, mine only happens on custom ROM. Stock ROM is stable.
And it never restart.
I restart myself after those apps force close.
AdliHebat said:
No, mine only happens on custom ROM. Stock ROM is stable.
And it never restart.
I restart myself after those apps force close.
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Ok that fine..
You use Titanium back up after flashing custom ROM right..
Probably it cause by not complete back up before
If you wanna try,
Just do factory reset after you flashing Custom ROM and install all apps without titanium backup..*homework
Regards
Rio Saputro said:
Ok that fine..
You use Titanium back up after flashing custom ROM right..
Probably it cause by not complete back up before
If you wanna try,
Just do factory reset after you flashing Custom ROM and install all apps without titanium backup..*homework
Regards
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No, I full wipe from recovery (I use CWM recovery) and install everything fresh on every flash session nowadays. I don't trust Titanium backup anymore.
Yeah n in recovery wipe every single folder...system...data....under mount n storage (CWM)
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Yeah n in recovery wipe every single folder...system...data....under mount n storage (CWM)
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Now that you mentioned it, i never use the format/wipe menu under the mount and storage option.
Maybe next week...i want to convince myself the phone is stable.
BEFORE YOU START. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE OR DATA LOSS ANY OF THESE STEPS MAY CAUSE. ALWAYS FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Note: Suggestions, comments & questions are welcome. Will improve as much as needed.
1. BACKUP. There are many apps you can find to backup any data. Backup all data you'll want to keep until you're 100% satisfied then move it to a folder on your PC. Personally, I use Titanium Backup Pro and backup everything to Google Drive.
2. DOWNLOAD. A GB kernel, rooted AT&T ROM/Rogers ROM, stock ICS leak, CWM, and then go to the CM10 thread and grab the latest build of the ROM & Gapps. So you should have 6 files total. To make your life easier, put them all in 1 folder.
3. ROOT. Turn off your phone. Hold the top part of the volume rocker and turn on the phone. It should boot into download mode if done correctly. Connect phone to PC via USB. On your PC, install & open Odin. Click on PDA and locate your GB kernel. Then click start & wait. If successful, you should see green and you'll be rooted. I believe whenever you use ODIN, it is called a 'flash.' I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, go back into download mode and now place the rooted ROM in the PDA section followed by clicking start again. When the phone is done booting, go to the Play store and get Superuser app. This allows you to give permission to operations that require root. Make sure it is updated!
4. CLEAN. Now you'll want to wipe your phone to minimize the chances of anything going wrong. Instead of holding the top part of the volume rocker, you'll hold the bottom. Then hold it as you start the phone. This is the stock recovery menu. I don't remember precisely what the options are called but you will want to wipe cache, dalvik, data and system.
5. UPDATE OS. Time to open up that stock ICS leak. When open, it should appear similar to Odin. Make sure your phone is in download mode again, connected via USB and click start again. You'll notice that your phone might take a while to boot up. It'll be updating files and apps so be patient.
6. CWMR. After it's all booted up, time to go back to download mode again. In ODIN, you'll want to click on PDA again and this time flash the CWMR file. Click start and you're done in no time. CWMR replaces stock recovery with the same options plus extra goodies.
7. CLEAN AGAIN. Now you'll want to turn off your phone and boot the phone holding the bottom of the rocker. You'll boot into CWMR. Time to wipe and format again. You'll find the first 2 wipe options on the first page. The wiping of dalvik cache will be in the ADVANCED menu. Then you'll want to go into the MOUNTS AND STORAGE menu. Format system, cache & data.
8. CM10. Now while still in CWMR, you'll need to go into the MOUNTS AND STORAGE menu and select MOUNT USB STORAGE. You'll want to connect your phone to your PC with the USB. Place the CM10 and Gapps files in the main directory of your PHONE'S INTERNAL STORAGE. Select UNMOUNT on your phone, disconnect from USB and now you'll want to go to the option INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD.. then go to the CHOOSE.. option and select the final fruit of your labor, CM10. When it's done doing it's thing, REBOOT SYSTEM. Be patient and let everything load.
9. GAPPS. After everything has loaded, you want to turn off the phone and boot into CWMR one last time. Go to INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD, CHOOSE ZIP and flash that Gapps file. Then REBOOT SYSTEM.
10. RESTORE. Reinstall the app you used to backup your stuff, move your backup files you put on the PC back to it's rightful place and restore. You should be good to go.
Credits in no special order:
dman3285 (CM10)
CarpeNoctem (Root Guide)
ardatdat (Kernel)
designgears (Stock ICS Leak)
utkanos (CWMR 5.0.2.7)
Someone said doing this is a good idea so..
rogernizzLe said:
Someone said doing this is a good idea so..
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You've made the same mistake as in your previous post. Step 6 for cleaning up the phone should be after you copy the cm10 and gapps to internal storage or otherwise from cwmr you'll have to mount storage and then copy the files from your comp. If you format system then you won't be able to boot at all.
And after the copy you can do all the format and cleaning and install cm10 and then gapps together and reboot finally.
This guide would be a good help to the new users. Hopefully you can incorporate the changes to correct it.
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ninthsense said:
You've made the same mistake as in your previous post. Step 6 for cleaning up the phone should be after you copy the cm10 and gapps to internal storage or otherwise from cwmr you'll have to mount storage and then copy the files from your comp. If you format system then you won't be able to boot at all.
And after the copy you can do all the format and cleaning and install cm10 and then gapps together and reboot finally.
This guide would be a good help to the new users. Hopefully you can incorporate the changes to correct it.
Sent from my SGH-I927
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Sorry, really wanted to play AC3. Fix'd the cleaning stage. I realized I actually did mount the storage. Looks okay, I hope?
Hey, I followed these steps and it worked.
Didn't run into any major problems, except for having to download the CM10 file using my phone itself, I couldn't download it from my computer (found this out in the CM10 post, pg 29).
It really helps to follow OPs instructions, but also read up on all of the individual threads he links to before actually doing anything.
Thanks rogernizzLe!
Glad it helped. Enjoy!
So all the features of the phone works? Physical keyboard, 3G, GPS, WiFi?
Do you have to use the 1 click?
I have ICS installed via CLock work Mod and Have the Lite Kernel.
Should I not just be able to install JB from Clock work mod? I have never used the 1 click installer but I am on ICS with an ICS Kernel.
Waiting for everything to work before I flash JB. Heard there were still issues with the camera.
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So all the features of the phone works? Physical keyboard, 3G, GPS, WiFi?
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For a list of what works in the CM10 ROM, check it's thread's OP. dman updates it as bugs are being fixed/found.
dudejb said:
Do you have to use the 1 click?
I have ICS installed via CLock work Mod and Have the Lite Kernel.
Should I not just be able to install JB from Clock work mod? I have never used the 1 click installer but I am on ICS with an ICS Kernel.
Waiting for everything to work before I flash JB. Heard there were still issues with the camera.
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The method is how I got to JB. There's probably other ways but this worked for me. And yes, currently camera doesn't work.
If I may suggest ... some post updates would be useful ...
Post #1:
rogernizzLe said:
... and then go to the CM10 thread ...
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- could you update with a link to the thread? (There are so many!)
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rogernizzLe said:
Someone said doing this is a good idea so..
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- didn't and don't understand this at the time.
- perhaps a "(reserving a message slot)" in the middle would clarify.
- my guess was, this post was saying doing the things in post 1 was a good idea.
- only later did I realize you were probably referring to the reservation of the message slot.
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rogernizzLe said:
... For a list of what works in the CM10 ROM, check it's thread's OP. dman updates it as bugs are being fixed/found. ...
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- a link to the thread you mean, for later readers, would also be useful here.
thx so much
it's really helpful for a fisher like me
What's the best way to update since I can't update with the version that sprint pushed out since I'm rooted. Is it like a hacked version of the update that I can just update with? Yeah I'm a noob at this.
Thanks!
Not sure if your talking about 4.2 which is to my knowledge only with cm 10 or liquidsmooth or aokp most likely or 4.1.2 md4 either case download the appropriate file of your choice and flash from recovery do make sure backup amyways hope that answers your question
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six3onei said:
What's the best way to update since I can't update with the version that sprint pushed out since I'm rooted. Is it like a hacked version of the update that I can just update with? Yeah I'm a noob at this.
Thanks!
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I think you mean update to 4.1.2. Check your version in settings about device. If it's 4.1.1 go here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=586
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Cm10.1
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Deviant Xone (linked in my sig). Awesome 4.2.2 ROM.
If you're going to any AOSP rom, be sure to update your recovery to the latest!
Also - Create a 0 folder in the root of your internal storage and move all of your files into /sdcard/0 (and I mean everything, files, folders, etc.) When you boot into latest recovery, it'll treat the sdcard/0 as your sdcard root folder. Once you flash an AOSP based rom, it will always use sdcard/0 as the root so if you create the 0 folder prior to flashing, you'll have all of your internal memory accessible.
Overstew said:
If you're going to any AOSP rom, be sure to update your recovery to the latest!
Also - Create a 0 folder in the root of your internal storage and move all of your files into /sdcard/0 (and I mean everything, files, folders, etc.) When you boot into latest recovery, it'll treat the sdcard/0 as your sdcard root folder. Once you flash an AOSP based rom, it will always use sdcard/0 as the root so if you create the 0 folder prior to flashing, you'll have all of your internal memory accessible.
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Apparently you can avoid this by updating your recovery....the emulated 0 folder, I mean
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I'm running stock rom that I rooted... The phone version as of now is 4.1.2... as of 1 week I recieved an over the air update from sprint. I was thinking its 4.2 something maybe? maybe I wrong. I was wondering how could I get that update to install? Would i have to un-root then re-root?
Thanks!
six3onei said:
I'm running stock rom that I rooted... The phone version as of now is 4.1.2... as of 1 week I recieved an over the air update from sprint. I was thinking its 4.2 something maybe? maybe I wrong. I was wondering how could I get that update to install? Would i have to un-root then re-root?
Thanks!
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Hey six3onei,
I'm assuming you just got the notification for the OTA (Over-The-Air) update. The newest version of the Stock Rom is MD4 which is still 4.1.2. Android version 4.2.x probably won't come out for your phone for a couple of months (that's my guess with no data to back it up other than my own intuition).
As far as upadating, you actually don't have to apply the OTA to get the latest and greatest for our phone. All you have to do is flash Freeza's Stock Rooted Rom (You'll want the DeOdex MD4 Rom). It'll give you the most up-to-date Stock Rom with Root. I've linked and quoted a previous post I made which will give you directions to flash it. Also, CNexus has done a great guide about OTAs over in the general sub-forum. I suggest giving that a look-through.
Also, just a note on the flashing sequence below: In step 4 below, if you're coming from a stock Rom and you're going to a stock Rom, all you have to do is wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache. If you're going to a different Rom, it's best to do a full wipe (in my opinion).
Ok, let's start at the very beginning (it's a very good place to start).
Before we get started, I'm going to make the following assumptions:
You successfully rooted your phone through Odin.
You currently have a custom recovery (either TWRP or CWM).
You have a Rom you'd like to flash on either your internal storage or your SDcard (I'd recommend the SDcard, but that's your prerogative).
If either of the first two is not true, I'd recommend going back to qbking77's thread and check out the videos on how to use Odin to gain root and a custom recovery.
If number 3 above is not true, download a ROM (nor someone new to flashing/custom Roms, I'd recommend Freeza's stock rooted Rom, as it's identical to stock TW, but just with Root). Once you download a Rom, check it's md5sum to verify that it's a good download. Copy the file to your SD card and get ready to flash (make sure you have decent battery life left, I try to keep at least 50% or more when flashing Roms, although it shouldn't take too long.
I'll give directions on how to flash a Rom below. The instructions will be for TWRP, but CWM has similar options/settings
Turn your phone completely off (hold down power for 3-5 seconds)
Boot your phone into recovery. Hold Up, Menu, and Power for a few seconds (until SAMSUNG appears on your screen and the phone vibrates)
Make a Nandroid backup. I can't emphasize this enough. In flashing, it's almost a certainty that one time, something will mess up. When that happens, you want to be able to restore a backup. In TWRP, just go into Backup Menu and choose where you want it (internal vs. External storage). It takes my phone a few (5-10) minutes to completely backup my data.
In TWRP, click the wipe button, then system. This will completely wipe the Rom from your phone. Doing this will allow you to get a "clean" install, without any settings or leftover files from your old Rom getting in the way. Instead, you could only wipe data (factory reset), which is good enough for most Roms. I'd still recommend a system wipe, though.
Also while in the Wipe menu, wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache.
Go back to the TWRP main menu.
Click Install, then find your Rom zip file (may have to switch from internal to external storage).
Let TWRP do it's thing.
If you're installing a TW-based Rom, chances are it had gapps already installed. If not, you should now flash the correct gapps package from goo.im. Make sure you're flashing the correct one, as if you don't, your google apps will force close upon use.
Reboot into system and give it time to boot (first boot sometimes takes a couple of minutes).
Set up your phone the way you like.
These should be the directions to follow whenever you flash a new Rom. Some Roms have the Aroma installer, so you'll have more options once you choose to flash the Rom zip, but those are typically easy to follow (and vary from Rom to Rom, so I won't be able to give you a good guide on that).
Hope this helps!
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The rom you want to download off of Freeza's page is:
DeOdex:
Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 L710VPBMD4 | Mirror
MD5: 77262D9D6CF1A6AF30A8981A95A75D57
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Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom
thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?
Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
lafactorial said:
No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?
u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock
I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?
Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid
I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.
you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224
If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
Thaenor said:
ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.
ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it
Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.
Ok I wrote this for the OP of my ROM because the issues some people were PMing me about were just plain out dumb, This phone has been out quite a long time and still almost every thread I goto, you got people flashing in way's I didn't even know were possible and posting weird issues that were not being reproduced by the community. so I'm just gonna post this guide for all the developers sake and in hopes the people that actually need this information, receive it before posting and clogging up development threads
If you're having issues on rom's that no one else is reporting, or the DEV has not reproduced on his phone, read the following.
1) Full wipe
2) Do not restore System data or data from CWM
3) Do not dirty flash from other ROM's
4) When was the last time you did a odin to stock? this is important in my opinion and I'm not saying you need to do one but I just want to explain that custom zip's that I make and other dev's make in the shape of "roms" only affect
a few partitions on your device, other's do not get touched and can get messy/corrupt over the months (This explains why the GPS icon disappears in some peoples cases during rom switch) and this is why I get posts in this thread about people wondering why their baseband hasn't been updated after flashing my rom when my post states "MF1"
With this being said my personal rule of thumb is to odin to stock latest and then boot into stock recovery and factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik (BACKUP YOUR SD CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER), this gives your phone fresh partitions everywhere, a fresh system to root and the latest bootloader (which you need for any AOSP 4.2 rom). This is also a good time to unlock your phone if you have not already, then reroot and install custom recovery, update the recovery if need be and flash again on a brand new system. here are my steps
1) backup all user apps and data with titanium backup, DO NOT BACKUP SYSTEM APP'S
2) backup internal storage onto PC
3) Odin to stock latest
4) wait for phone to boot then reboot into stock recovery and full wipe and clear all cache
5) reboot and root the phone and custom recovery
6) flash away and put what you need on your internal storage back onto your phone via usb, see my 2nd set of instructions below
this fixes more issues then you will realize. some of the way people flash rom's on XDA and complain to me with problems is rather funny considering I have the install instructions in the OP, not to mention many of you rooted your phone when you first got it in the ICS 4.0.4 day's and haven't done an odin to stock jellybean to update all your partitions including your bootloader, now I will go over my every day flashing step's.
1)backup all USER APPS/DATA with titanium backup, DO NOT BACKUP SYSTEM APP'S (skip this if you did a odin flash to stock)
2)reboot recovery
3)nandroid (skip this if you did a odin flash to stock)
4)factory reset, wipe system, wipe both cache/dalvik
5)install rom
6)boot system
7)*(OPTIONAL) reboot to install a kernel now if needed, always wipe cache/dalvik and fix permissions after installing a kernel
8)setup phone and download titanium backup from the market
9)restore all user apps and data (you will have to put the titanium backup folder that is backed up on your computer back onto your internal storage via usb first)
Every 6 months, backup internal storage to PC and I odin to stock, much like formatting a computer
6 months is actually a long time considering how much I flash, but this device can take a beating let me tell you =P
I DO THIS WITH EVERY ROM I INSTALL, AOSP or TW
Great info, that is actually my same process when I have an issue with anything
Good read. A lot of common sense for seasoned flashers, will be great for people who are unsure.
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Good read. A lot of common sense for seasoned flashers, will be great for people who are unsure.
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thanks man, hoping this gets a sticky.
Danvdh said:
thanks man, hoping this gets a sticky.
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I'll add it to my sticky
Galaxy S3 / AoCP / V4A / Turbocharged
s3 unrooting issues
I have been having some big problems with unrooting my telus SGH I747 Galaxy s3. I have flashed the stock rom using odin, did a factory reset and wiped cache and everytime i reboot it loads up the same roms i had on there at first. I have had a lot of issues with roms as well such as slow messaging times, echoing voice calls using AOKP and when i use an AOSP rom i cant connect to my phone carriers data connection at all. I read this form and decided its probably a good idea to re root as you said due to updates or whatever else but now im runing into this issue. I have ask on other forms and no one seemed to have heard of this issue. If anyone has any ideas or knows a fix i would really appreciate the help.
Custom ROM data issue
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I have been having some big problems with unrooting my telus SGH I747 Galaxy s3. I have flashed the stock rom using odin, did a factory reset and wiped cache and everytime i reboot it loads up the same roms i had on there at first. I have had a lot of issues with roms as well such as slow messaging times, echoing voice calls using AOKP and when i use an AOSP rom i cant connect to my phone carriers data connection at all. I read this form and decided its probably a good idea to re root as you said due to updates or whatever else but now im runing into this issue. I have ask on other forms and no one seemed to have heard of this issue. If anyone has any ideas or knows a fix i would really appreciate the help.
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So scrap the unrooting issue i have that figured out now, i just reinstalled the rom and again it doesnt have data, it is the deadly venom rom, anyone else that i know who is using this rom has absolutely no problem. I have tried a few fixes i have found via youtube, google, etc.... but none were successful. If anyone knows a fix or has any ideas please let me know.
I have an I747M S3 from a friend and trying to get it back to stable stock. It had lost it's IMEI and some NVdata corruption but I was able to resolve that searching the forums, But it has issues with apps crashing and rebooting quiet frequently. It can sometimes go feeling pretty stable ofr awhile then just kind of blows up. I have cleared away the flash counter and restored factory stock images from Odin and Keis, still having the issues. Is there a partion or something that could be getting missed? Or possible further problems related to the NVdata issues?
if you have any ideas I would appreciate it.
I used twrp to back up system, data, and boot, should I still use titanium back up to back up anything else, or is that enough to be relatively safe?