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I'm hoping someone who has the Ambilight or Lightpack setup on their TV will root a Fire TV and test running Prismatik. Prismatik communicates with lightpack leds to let them know what color to change to match on-screen content. The android beta requires root access to screen grab. The big questions for me are:
1) Will rooting the FireTV disable any of its features (i.e. Amazon Instant Video)?
2) How does the lightpack connect to the FireTV (or OUYA for that matter)? It hooks to the PC via USB.
I imagine that it will work similarly to the way it works with the OUYA but I'd like to see someone else make it work before I buy one. I am an Amazon Prime customer and I love the idea of the Fire TV but I would like to be able to retire the laptop that is running Prismatik before introducing another box.
Fellow Lightpack owner here, seconding the OP. This looks like it has so much potential.
Not really..
If you already have a HTPC( which i guess you do - because lightpack) there's a work around for this..
If this ends up working without any negatives I'm buying this ASAP. Looks great!
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If you already have a HTPC( which i guess you do - because lightpack) there's a work around for this..
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I don't have a HTPC but I've got an old laptop hooked up for that purpose. I am currently running everything through it via the workaround but I'd like to get the laptop out of the equation and just simplify with the Fire TV running XBMC, if it'll work.
I received my FireTV and can't seem to get the Lightpack to be detected. I tried on my Ouya and I am noticing that the popup screen that occurs when Pristmatik detects the Lightpack isn't happening on my FireTV; searching for a work around.
Has anyone found a good solution to accessing their Fire TV remotely? Basically I'm looking for a VNC or Remote Desktop solution for the Fire TV so I that I can setup / configure from my PC without having to be tied to the Fire TV.
martian21 said:
Has anyone found a good solution to accessing their Fire TV remotely? Basically I'm looking for a VNC or Remote Desktop solution for the Fire TV so I that I can setup / configure from my PC without having to be tied to the Fire TV.
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This would be nice to have. I remember reading someone trying teamviewer to control it remotely. Haven't tried it been so busy.
Wireless adb? Its not a GUI but I use it to install apps and what not. I even do it from work by using chrome remote desktop to connect to my home computer and adb from there
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I tried remote droid, but couldn't get it to work over the network. Teamviewer worked for me. Has a bit of delay in it but does the job. Used it to setup XBMC, no issues. You need root access and have the client installed on the FTV.
Would you mind providing a few more details of how you got TeamViewer working? I looks like you need the TeamViewer Quick Support app correct? Did you just sideload it?
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Yes you need to side load TeamViewer Quick Support onto FTV and start it. It will give you the session ID which you enter into the PC Teamviewer.
FTV will ask for SU access which you grant.
Once you choose remote access on the PC it will ask again for SU access. Once granted you should see your FTV on the PC session.
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I tried TeamViewer and it does work but unfortunately doesn't meet my needs. I need something that runs all the time in the background and doesn't require user intervention on the FireTV to connect.
I also tried "VNC Server" and "droid VNC server". VNC Server displayed the screen perfectly but couldn't be controlled. droid VNC server just displayed a black screen and also didn't seem to allow control. There is also VMLite VNC Server but it is $10 and looks like it's based off droid VNC Server (which didn't work). VMLite is a non-starter anyway because you need to connect wia USB adb to start the app the first time.
It's really too bad that there doesn't appear to be any true remote access solution to the Fire TV. Maybe someday.
I'd be interested too...my typical need would be to launch a radio app (Pandora, Songza, etc) WITHOUT having to turn on the TV, only to turn it off afterwards. If I could do it from my phone (which is always around and connected) it would be perfect.
Still using my trusty old Roku M500 for Internet radio, just because of the simplicity.
Use an app called "WebKey". It works over a brower (both http and https) and you can change the ports to non-standard ones in the app. I use Chrome, so not sure of the behavior on IE or Firefox.
You will create an account (userid & password) on each FTV that you install the app and want to control. Thats your authentication. You will also create a name that uniquely identifies your FTV.
It works in 2 ways when you are coming from a public IP.
-- If you are able to punch a hole in your router and open the 2 ports up (any port and you can redirect to the FTV ports) and redirect traffic to your FTV, you can access your FTV straight through by using your public IP (use a dynamic DNS service).
-- If you don't want to do that, the app allows access to your FTV without configuring your router. To access, you go to "http://www.webkey.cc/XXXX" where XXXX is the unique name of your FTV (it is case sensitive).
The second method goes through the app's portal. This is not desirable as your login goes through the app's portal and if the portal is down, you are SOL. Also, the second method only works over http.
Note, if you configure your router to let FTV traffic through, but still go through the app's portal, the app is smart enough to detect that there exists an open path for the FTV to the public internet and it will automatically switch to that method (nice feature, I think)
If everything is set up correctly, you see a complete copy of your FTV on the browser with keys to mimic your remote control, push/pull files, install/uninstall apps... It functions almost the same as any RDP client and you can control your FTV remotely as if you were sitting in front of it.
I have attached the apk that I have running on my 2 FTVs. Its free and runs perfectly fine.
Wow - Thanks dbdoshi! WebKey worked great!
Would have been nice to be able to use VNC but seeing that WebKey only requires a browser it is actually more versatile. I haven't had a chance to really test it out but my initial connection was sucessful.
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Wow - Thanks dbdoshi! WebKey worked great!
Would have been nice to be able to use VNC but seeing that WebKey only requires a browser it is actually more versatile. I haven't had a chance to really test it out but my initial connection was sucessful.
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Glad it worked out for you. I manage couple of FTVs for a friend and a cousin using this remotely. It can be slow (especially if you go through the webkey portal), but works. If you don't see immediate feedback after you click something, be patient and don't double click stuff. Internally, it rocks and experience is pretty good.
If you plan to use the app's portal, there is an option to "ping" their server through the app and you should enable that option. The main controls are at the bottom (in your browser), especially the arrow keys. The middle button inside the arrow keys in your "SELECT" button. Once you are in any app, simply touching the controls within the app seems to work. If you figure out how to enter text using your keyboard (say in any input box in any app) let me know, the only way I know is to bring up the keyboard on FTV and select each character individually.
Also, if you want to run any app, you don't have to go through the Settings,.... menu on FTV. On the right side, you will see an option for "Run Application" or something and you can start any app from there very easily.
This looks very interesting, I'll be trying it as soon as I get a chance, could be good for people selling preprogrammed devices with XBMC to end users.
How do you
I got it to work but how to you get the mouse to work with the Fire stick? the mouse don't work due to the fire stick using bluetooth?
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Yes you need to side load TeamViewer Quick Support onto FTV and start it. It will give you the session ID which you enter into the PC Teamviewer.
FTV will ask for SU access which you grant.
Once you choose remote access on the PC it will ask again for SU access. Once granted you should see your FTV on the PC session.
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Controlling amazon fire stick using Vysor
martian21 said:
Has anyone found a good solution to accessing their Fire TV remotely? Basically I'm looking for a VNC or Remote Desktop solution for the Fire TV so I that I can setup / configure from my PC without having to be tied to the Fire TV.
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Use Vysor for Remote control of fire stick since fire stick use aosp android.
Is there anyway that I can control my Fire TV from my pc?
I find it really hard to type with the remote itself, so just wondered if I could control the TV with my laptops mouse and keyboard.
If you have the Fire TV Box, you can add a keyboard via USB. Some work better than others.
There is also a remote control app for Android phones and typing works fine.
I have successfully installed Remote VNC Server
I have been able to install Remote VNC Server onto my FTV v2 box...
There are several guides on installing a VNC server onto FTV; however most use a paid VNC server. I chose to install the free Remote VNC server from the Play store and it worked. My FTV is rooted and I am using VNC Viewer on Win 10 to control it. Typing is a little slow, but works. Haven't played with settings which could remedy the delay...
Oh, and make sure to use port 6000 when connecting. It doesn't mention anything about that in the app, but I wasn't able to connect until I specified that port.
Good Luck!!
you can just use teamviewer...
Not sure if you have an IPhone or android device. The official app on IPhone supports inputting text from the keyboard. I would assume the android equivalent does the same.
I'm currently using Vysor which seems to be quite hassle free.
The android official Fire TV app Can control you fire device & type & manoeuvre using the touch screen keyboard & controls
The FireTV app internally works with the WhisperNet protocol.
The connection is secured and pairing unfortunately seems incredibly complicated.
My guess is, however, that this could possibly be used to get playstate, track names and other information enabling full integration into home automation systems.
Maybe someone with a clue about cryptography could have a look at it?
Be warned: pairing a phone remote works only once and can not be deleted
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. I chose to install the free Remote VNC server from the Play store and it worked. My FTV is rooted and I am using VNC Viewer on Win 10 to control it.
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requires root?
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you can just use teamviewer...
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teamviewer full or quicksupport?
buttons wouldnt work for me to get to settings buttin in teamviewer
quicksupport works but I can only view remote computer, not control it
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teamviewer full or quicksupport?
buttons wouldnt work for me to get to settings buttin in teamviewer
quicksupport works but I can only view remote computer, not control it
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Interaction from a remote VNC client requires root.
Quicksupport works on a stick with root. AFTV2 with the rbox 5.0.5 image crashes complaining of missing files
Haven't tried VNC Server yet
Blue Stacks
To control your Fire Stick using the PC, install an Android emulator (I use "BlueStacks 4"). Inside the emulator install the FireTV Remote app from the Google Play Store. I tried posting links, but as a new user, that is not permitted.
Vysor is your best bet or get micro usb otg adapter to USB adapter to plug in a wireless mouse and keyboard. Also you could get a usb mouse remote with backlit keyboard. The fire tv remote app for iPhone and android works really good for typing.
https://ufile.io/dy10b5qa
Not by me, cant find who made it.
Console (DOS prompt) based, works just make sure you check your tv to grant permissions. I jsut tested Kodi controls and they work... give it a shot.
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https://ufile.io/dy10b5qa
if i cant post uploadfiles, please erase and ban my account from this site.
This is an ADB remote, that I just tested and works for entering text. DOS based. I guess it was deleted but its its adb sending commands.
Dont work that great though, you have to wait for each command you send to complete, tho it does go faster if you arent using any apps like Kodi (but also makes a good remote).
Again, XDA, please remove my account and everything you can if I cant post this. Thank you. Thank you for all the Winmo stuff in the mid 2000s. I have earned this right to have my info deleted.
Stumped.
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To control your Fire Stick using the PC, install an Android emulator (I use "BlueStacks 4"). Inside the emulator install the FireTV Remote app from the Google Play Store. I tried posting links, but as a new user, that is not permitted.
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OK, I'm stumped. In the Fire TV Rempte App, where are the up/down/left/right/select navigation buttons in the circle near the top of the actual remote?
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OK, I'm stumped. In the Fire TV Rempte App, where are the up/down/left/right/select navigation buttons in the circle near the top of the actual remote?
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If installed on your phone, swipe in the large empty space in the middle of the screen. Tap to select. I haven't tried it from a pc, but assume you would drag and click.
You can try out scrcpy. The preview on the PC is bit laggy when connecting over Wi-Fi but the input is instant on the FireTV. You need to activate ADB tho.
I am able to upload the apps to the fire stick but cannot seem to open them completely. I downloaded the wukong remote app, have a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to my Samsung un65h7150 which seems to have a pretty fast processor and also have the directv tablet app on the stick as well. I can sign in with directv but have great difficulty navigating with fire stick remote and the keyboard as well. I can get as far as highlighting a channel but to open it up never happens- no enter buttons work neither on the wukong 'try now'
Any help would be appreciated.
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I am able to upload the apps to the fire stick but cannot seem to open them completely. I downloaded the wukong remote app, have a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to my Samsung un65h7150 which seems to have a pretty fast processor and also have the directv tablet app on the stick as well. I can sign in with directv but have great difficulty navigating with fire stick remote and the keyboard as well. I can get as far as highlighting a channel but to open it up never happens- no enter buttons work neither on the wukong 'try now'
Any help would be appreciated.
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You need to side-load the app to your phone or tablet, open app and connect to your Firestick IP, once connected It will automatically install the wukong app on your firestick . Once you see the app under your main\apps you are good to go.
Hi thanks I thought it just wasn't completely compatible. I did download the 'appstofire', app from GP, opened it up after I had the wukong and direct tablet already downloaded (from gp) and then opened the appstofire app, selected those apps to upload then got an error to select setup. I then put in my IP and then was able to upload or transfer the wukong and directv apps to the stick. So you're saying they need to be sideloaded instead of how I'm doing it- I did see an app called fire tv stick side load app somewhere on here- I'll try that when I get in- hopefully this works since the 'appstofire' app didn't - thanks for your help :good:
Uninstall sideloaded apps. Go to playstore and download wukong app on your phone\tablet, lunch it and search for your box IP,select it and will attempt to connect, once connected it will automatically install wukong app on your fire TV. When this is all done you should be able to see the pointer on your screen and navigate through using your preferred type of build in modes ( touchpad, dpad, mouse or keyboard)
Hi not sure what I am doing wrong but once uninstalling the apps from the firestick and downloading the wukong app for 'kodi' instead of any other then launching it and selecting ip, it asks last 2 numbers which I put in and hit search and I get no device found which dosen't make sense. I have unkown sources on and usb degug on set, it tries to initialize but fails and says 1 minute to resolve but goes to a tutorial troubleshoot page without connecting?
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Uninstall sideloaded apps. Go to playstore and download wukong app on your phone\tablet, lunch it and search for your box IP,select it and will attempt to connect, once connected it will automatically install wukong app on your fire TV. When this is all done you should be able to see the pointer on your screen and navigate through using your preferred type of build in modes ( touchpad, dpad, mouse or keyboard)
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Hi I know what you were explainging was a pretty simple, quick access to the application but I seem to be experiencing a problem connecting to it on my firestick. Once installing the app on my phone for example and then trying to access it on the stick, it shows ‘smart tv’ which is checked and ‘my devices’ which has a rectangular green box that is labeled ‘connect’ but not ‘firetv’. When tapping ‘connect', I get ‘initializing’ then failed to initialize showing the troubleshooting page suggesting developer options and usb debugging which are all on. The only other problem that I thought may be the issue was having all connections the same which they are now on the same wifi extender that has the best signal. This didn’t change anything. I then checked the IP address on the firestick which is 192.168.1.12 and it when hitting ‘Input IP to search’, it asks for the last 2 digits but when entering the 12, I quickly get ‘no devices found please try again. I then checked the IP on my tv and found its IP’s last 2 digits are 22 not 12 which I don’t see how I would change these or even if this would be the problem since it is the firestick that I am trying to get recognized. Besides, even though ‘smart tv’ shows up in the ‘New Devices’, Wukong is not functional with the actual tv either. The other suggestion they give was to install the server onto the tv but once copying that fires on to a flash drive then plugging it into my Samsung smart tv, I cant even access the file on the tv.
If you or anyone can shed any light on my situtuation - it would be appreciated
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I'm also stuck
When I use Wukong Remote, it doesn't detect my Fire TV. I have ADB debugging and Unknown Source both on. Might there be another setting I am missing so my Firestick can be detected?
I sideloaded Teamviewer Host 14 onto a Fire TV 3. The Fire TV is not rooted. I can see the screen but it's extremely pixelated and low resolution. I cannot control the Fire TV.
I got the image to look perfect. I had to edit the advanced settings in the Teamviewer client for the Amazon FireTV connection:
I still can't control anything through Teamviewer, but I can see what's going on.
Did you enable an air mouse or mouse toggle app on the Fire Tv to see if you could use it remotely?
I spoke too soon. The picture starts out good but becomes pixelated in a few seconds.
JUSTINMARMER said:
Did you enable an air mouse or mouse toggle app on the Fire Tv to see if you could use it remotely?
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No. If I can't fix the image, there's no point to try to get remote control working.
This is a common 'issue'
I work in the technical support field, and, unless you are both running Gigabit, sharing the same router, stars are aligned, it will suck royally.
Unfortunately, the only way to 'cure' this is not ideal.
Example: For use on an actual PC, there is an option to disable background images/pictures, as that would really eat up data bandwidth and transfer speed and cause distortion.
So, that being said, we love these devices for just those features...the 'pretty stuff'
Team Viewer is an awesome tool, but, IMHO, not ideal for these devices, unless for basic troubleshooting.