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Convince me to go back to the note.

So I sold ny international note and Used my upgrade to try out the one x+ do you think I shouldtrade back for a note 2? I want a future proof phone I'm afraid the value of this one might drop like the first one x did. Please convince me to come back to the note. I reallywant to but I love sense.
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HTC's profit margin and market share are dwindling everyday. Plus the One X + doesn't have external storage. Those alone aren't very future friendly compared to our Note 2.

Storage is not an issue for me. As 64gb is plenty. I never used up my 16gb card I put in my phones when I change phones. But Im really stuck on what I want
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1gb of ram. With 60% used on boot by bloatware called sense. From that, you practucally have no multitasking, unless of course you use nothing else but stock apps that optimized to somewhat work well in such low memory enviroment, the rest of 3nd party apps will be unexpectedly killed when left running on backround for a few minutes.
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If your even asking this question you are obviously not happy with your phone I would not even think of getting another phone than the note sounds like you miss something about it

There's a lot more I miss than I like. The reason I guess is I've gotten bored with samsungs software I guess
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I'd sooner go back to the S II than a One X. Can't imagine the X+ being any better. I actually like TouchWiz especially the nature UX version. And the inability to multi task drove me nuts, even on custom ROMs.
The way Samsung is bringing features from the Note 2 down to the S 3, OG Note, and S 2 shows Samsung devices will be more future proof than HTC phones. The "new" Motorola is doing pretty good too, better skinning and they just got JB on the Atrix HD. If you are just looking for something new that might be a good choice.
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The one X+ is a pretty nice and powerful phone. If it meets your needs, be happy. The internal 64GB makes the lack of a MicroSD card a minor issue. The X+ has a VERY nice screen too. I like Sense also, I think it's a nice looking skin with some useful features, but it does take up some resources.
I don't know what the battery life is like on the X+, but I understand it pretty decent. My Note II with a custom ROM give me phenomenal battery life. Plus I have a spare stock battery if every I need it, and so far I haven't. For now I just swap them every so often.
For me the 5.5" screen, removable battery, 2GB of RAM and S pen make it my phone of choice. The multi-window is also a nice feature, though I can't say I really use it much (but it's there if every I need it). Only use can decide what features are important to you.

Yea people have called me a phone whore haha , But im stuck between these phones. right now kinda angry the note 2 will cost a total of $370+ Taxes! $35 upgrade fee 100 on top of my One X+`s 199. and a $35 restocking fee I even said I was having issues with the phone and they still want to charge a restocking fee.

I bet your not as much as a phone whore as me haha. Anyway, I am sticking with the Note 2 simply because its the best and will be for a long time. Quad-Core Exynos + LTE and 2GB did it for me. No other phone can hold a candle to the Note 2's form factor. HTC phones are becoming less popular. They are no where as popular as there were two years ago. Samsung definitely has the crown when it comes to Android phones. Your Note 2 will probably see way more development support than your One X+.
Besides, HTC kind of hanged themselves by releasing the One X+ shorty after the One X. I got the impression that they admitted the original One X sucked so they attempted to "fix" it. I know Samsung wil not be releasing a Note 2+ in a few months; the GSIV, maybe.
Good Luck!!!!

I guess I'll to go to the store after I lunch out at olive garden. . And deside I guess lol
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If I could afford it I'd take both to play with side by side for a few days. Ijust don't know Lol I need to find out soon though the closest store us 45min away but right right now I'm near it
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If you like your sense, then just keep it. No one can convince your to buy something that you don't really want. If you take the advise and buy something you don't want. Then you will regret at the end. So just follow your mind. No one knows what is the best suitable for yourself

I just think I like it cause it fits in the hands perfect. But I'm gonna go with the note 2. And off topic but dang is LTE fast lol
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So Stock or CLEAN rom. Between the two haha. The only thing I have against clean rom is it is running 4.1.2 which 4.1.2 leak on my N7100 I hated the EDGE scrolling feature in the browser

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So Stock or CLEAN rom. Between the two haha. The only thing I have against clean rom is it is running 4.1.2 which 4.1.2 leak on my N7100 I hated the EDGE scrolling feature in the browser
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Clean ROM is good. Jedi is pretty good too.
What is edge scrolling?
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HTC One or Samsung Galaxy S4? Anyone upgrading?

I got really disappointed when Samsung released the gs4 and it looked basically the same as the galaxy s3 just with a bigger screen and a few new bells and whistles. So I'm opting for the HTC one cause that thing is sexy all around. What about you guys?
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If you like having a device completely locked down go for HTC. Biggest reason I switched away from them
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Spastic909 said:
If you like having a device completely locked down go for HTC. Biggest reason I switched away from them
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What do you mean exactly? Cause my dad has a htc one s and it was pretty easy to root the phone and install a rom on it.
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Are you choosing a phone based on looks alone? Cause the HTC isn't even up to par with the current Euro SIII, let alone the S4 in terms of specs. I guess its about preference but personally I'm pretty intrigued by the S4 eight core processor in a frame slimmer then the SIII, not to mention the 13mp camera features, 5.0 SAmoled (yay no more pen tile) I just don't see a comparison IMO.
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boystuff said:
Are you choosing a phone based on looks alone? Cause the HTC isn't even up to par with the current Euro SIII, let alone the S4 in terms of specs. I guess its about preference but personally I'm pretty intrigued by the S4 eight core processor in a frame slimmer then the SIII, not to mention the 13mp camera features, 5.0 SAmoled (yay no more pen tile) I just don't see a comparison IMO.
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First of all, the HTC one has a qualcomm 600 processor which is that the same as the Samsung Galaxy S 4 has in USA, except that the s4 is .2ghz faster in terms of clock speed. Second of all, I'm currently on a contract with t mobile and I was talking about upgrading to the Galaxy s4 or the HTC one, so there's no way I can get the eight core s4. The galaxy s4 has a pentile display. Plus I don't really care about the megapixels or ultrapixels of the camera as long as my pics turn out good and not look like they were taken from a potato.
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adil17 said:
What do you mean exactly? Cause my dad has a htc one s and it was pretty easy to root the phone and install a rom on it.
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The source codes take sooo long to be released.
Look at the Amaze 4g and youll see what im talking about.
An awesome phone treated like crap lol.

When it comes to phones and tablets i will not use anything other than Samsung or a nexus. I just can't do it. HTC is a lot harder to root and it takes longer for development and i don't see anything else competing with Samsung.
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I'd hold out for the note 3 personally, that's what I'm doing. But then again it's a very long and very impatient wait because I don't think it'll be released until September. It's all on you though bud, there's a bunch of ill phones coming out this year.
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I had an HTC VIVID before this phone (cracked the screen), and it was a pain. Unlocking the bootloader, then flashing boot image and blah blah blah just to root and rom it. And then the development thread was WEAK (at the time ) so it was like for no point. I agree with the 2 above mentioned posts regarding source code & development. Its seriously ridiculous & sad!
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If I had to pick one of those 2 I would probably go with the HTC One, build quality is way ahead of the S4, I'm tired of plastic phones. My S2 has survived its fair share of drops without no significant damage though so I'm happy with that. Processors are nearly the same unless you're comparing the international S4 and HTC One. The One also has a nicer screen (more ppi). It seems like the biggest knock on the One is the fact that it doesn't have upgradable storage and battery but 64GB is more than enough for me and I never carry an extra battery for my S2 so that is pointless. When it comes to camera quality, the S3 with its 13MP will take better pictures when zoomed in since it has more pixels but the HTC One will blow the S4 out of the water when it comes to night pictures or anything with low light (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I was honestly disappointed with the S4, it seemed like all Samsung talked about at the news conference was all the bloatware they added onto the phone that I'm never going to use.

This is a laughable question. S4 stands head and toe over the crap HTC is throwing out nowadays.

S4 doesn't look like it will get any love from too many dev's
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adil17 said:
I got really disappointed when Samsung released the gs4 and it looked basically the same as the galaxy s3 just with a bigger screen and a few new bells and whistles. So I'm opting for the HTC one cause that thing is sexy all around. What about you guys?
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if you can get your hads in the developer edition, then go for the HTC One, but i you like big,big,big etc, go for the SG4

MacerHD said:
S4 doesn't look like it will get any love from too many dev's
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I believe that will be the international s4 with the Exnyos processor that probably wont have much development from what i have read. the North American version
still uses Qualacom, so i am thinking the development will be just as good as the S3.
As for which one i will choose, I will need to see them side by side first before I make any decisions.

MacerHD said:
S4 doesn't look like it will get any love from too many dev's
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If you are one of those people who root and flash away from Professionally built phone software in favor of barely working featureless lackluster crap produced by CM and it's near relatives there is no point worrying about having the newest phone anyway cuz you clearly are not going to use it for anything other than looking at your reflection. honestly you kids would be just as well off with a flip phone and a be-dazzeler.
I could understand the CM worship if this was a walmart prepaid phone with some lame flavor of aosp on it then CM might be a slight improvement but leaving Touchwiz for CM is a huge downgrade every time, all Tochwiz needs is some speedtweaks and a tweaked kernel.
Anyway +1 going to the S4 when It's here, might add a note 3 or even the note2 if I can get a good deal on it!

Wow makes me regret getting the Nexus 4 after what I saw in the GS4. Should have waited. But one this is having Google's latest and greatest code feels awesome. GS2 also has outstanding support and CM10.1
I really miss HTC's look and quality. But they have always been terrible battery life phones. Each one I've had except for the G2. My GS2 is still a champ and love that samsung releases the CODE that makes CM even possible.
And at the presentation I really have to reconsider no SD support and no removable battery. Just this week my old myTouch 4G I gave to my cousin, the battery can't hold charge. He got it replaced and its good as new. To me, having a removable battery just makes it easier to replace it when it does go bad.
I can kinda live with 16 gig and no SD Card, unless you are a heavy media user. But having a removable battery makes it possible to replace it. I don't mind the Samsung plastic. It is cheap and got a mini dent that I can't figure out how it happened on my GS2. I should have put a screen protector to prevent that. Still a mystery how it happened.
My LG G2X, I've never ever ever used at screen protector and its still flawless. Samsung **** is sensitive. They could at least use better plastics if they are sticking with that material.

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If I had to pick one of those 2 I would probably go with the HTC One, build quality is way ahead of the S4, I'm tired of plastic phones. My S2 has survived its fair share of drops without no significant damage though so I'm happy with that. Processors are nearly the same unless you're comparing the international S4 and HTC One. The One also has a nicer screen (more ppi). It seems like the biggest knock on the One is the fact that it doesn't have upgradable storage and battery but 64GB is more than enough for me and I never carry an extra battery for my S2 so that is pointless. When it comes to camera quality, the S3 with its 13MP will take better pictures when zoomed in since it has more pixels but the HTC One will blow the S4 out of the water when it comes to night pictures or anything with low light (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I was honestly disappointed with the S4, it seemed like all Samsung talked about at the news conference was all the bloatware they added onto the phone that I'm never going to use.
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Its mainly software on Samsung side but the HTC sense and their new features don't compare to the new temp and face tracking on the snapdragon S4 ImO get a lg optimus pro ..lg seems to be opening up to GPL
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If you even read the news... htc is yesterday's news...an exact quote "it's not in the kids club anymore" and that is why they pushed the date back for the htc one release...it's not even that it's hard to root, it's that it leaves traces for the carriers and htc to know you've rooted...
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I was waiting for the One but the battery life is poor. Going to hold off for the next Nexus. Have no interest in the S4
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This time i will go with HTC.

Note 2 or HTC One ??

Hey people ..I m planning to buy a new phone in a month or so help me chose b/w note 2 and HTC One
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Note 2 is the only logical choice. Forza samsung.
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If you want more battery life, bigger screen, take notes with S-Pen, use SD Card etc. you should buy Note 2 but if you want better camera and sound quality you should buy HTC One.

Up to now, I have always preferred HTC and bought TD2, HD2 and Sensation, but this time I bought a Galaxy Note 2. For me, the main reasons are;
1) HTC One doesn't have a removable battery.
2) HTC One doesn't have a micro-SD slot.
3) HTC One's bootloader is difficult to unlock.
I don't regret my choice.In addition, I noticed that Galaxy Note 2 has an amazing battery life.

You can't go wrong with either phone, but to be honest, I like the Note 2 a lot more. But if you want a smaller phone, then the HTC One. Its footprint is much lighter (size-wise). For me the Spen is fantastic, the SD card and battery life (and the fact that it's replaceable) are unbeatable. The HTC has the display going for it, and the build quality. But while some think the metal design is fantastic, I'd rather have plastic even though it doesn't feel as premium. That's just my opinion. Now, FACT is that HTC releases less updates than Samsung, that for me is another deal breaker. I want my device to be supported for a while. The Galaxy S2 and Note are still getting their updates. The S4 was just released, so it's 2 generations old and STILL getting MAJOR updates. So I don't know what to tell you... Buy whatever feels right for you, but you're in a Samsung forum, and I love my Samsung device

If you ask this in the HTCone section, they'll tell you to get the one. No real answers here, or there. Go test it out your self, that's the best choice.
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HTC One is a nice phone. However depends on your usage. If you're a heavy user like me who prefers large screen, excellent battery life etc. Note II. I have never once had to worry about battery life on Note 2 our even enable the power saving option which I could hardly do without in my previous phones. Obviously first check if the screen size is okay for you. If you're predominantly type with two hand like me, then it should be absolutely no problem at all. And obviously there's SPen, I do use it a lot, but some don't.
Every single phone before has "wow"d me initially, but this is the only phone that grew on me more.

I was thinking the HTC ONE is an awful nice device but the no removable battery and no sd card are INSTANT turn offs. makes it not even an option on the table.

No removable battery at 2300mAh, 4.9" screen, No sd-card, No S-pen? Where is the comparison? These threads have no place here. Another attemp to troll.

I will never go back to htc. Htc one looks awesome! I will buy it if only the brand was samsung. I dont trust htc anymore. I have 4 friends who owns htc devices 3 of then gets favtory defected and after repairing it soon after a month or so it will break again. Even though htc one itself has a better build quality and design i would choose note 2.
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Think the last few posters have pretty much summed it up. HTC One itself and the Sense UI look sexier than what the GN2 can offer. That's about the only thing its favour. Every other point gets scored by the Note 2. Much larger battery, removable battery, larger screen, s-pen, expandable storage, easier to root and possible to revert completely to out of box state (no going back to locked state on an htc device).
There are already multiple threads about the same topic, the same answers have been presented multiple times. If you value form over function go buy an HTC One. If you want a phone that will be the most useful companion then the Note 2 is currently the best phone out there. Not even the S4 can best it.

its a valid query. I DO like the 1080p panel that I wish the note II had. I DO like the higher res camera I DO like the good quality front facing speakers.
but 4.9" would be a hard downgrade once your used to 5.5" and I DO use the pen.
alas the lack of battery and sd make it a non starter. I used darned near 100% of my 16gb internal and 64gb external memory on my note II.
but this might not be the case for everyone.

I would hate going back to that horrible days where you have to manually tweak/micromanage stuff to make it through the day with your battery. And still you'll be bloody anxious if the bugger will drain on you
Shouldn't be a problem for moderate/light users, but is for me.

I KNOW !! that is one of the most amazing things about the Note II. the battery life. its simply amazing.
pretty much no matter what I do to it I still have 30-50% battery left when I get home. simply amazing.

Noone mentioned that HTC One's camera is a complete disaster.
Most important feature for me aside from battery life, sdcard and screen size.

Note2
Note 2 !. say no more....

dannydogg said:
Note 2 !. say no more....
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Every person says the same thing just with a different construction.
Face it, the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 beats the HTC One with more angles.
Close the fvcking thread. :cyclops:

Simone said:
Every person says the same thing just with a different construction.
Face it, the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 beats the HTC One with more angles.
Close the fvcking thread. :cyclops:
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yes, this thread is answered^^ (my 8th post) can't wait to get access to android development forum :good:

I have the note 2 and the missus has the one. They're both great devices. The one has a better screen and the sound clarity is unbelievable for a phone. It also feels amazing in the hand. The note is almost as good as a tablet for Internet browsing.
I've found the camera on the note to be marginally better, but there isn't much in it.
If you can stand the size and want the s pen then the note is a no brainer. If you don't need expandable storage and want something a bit more phone like then the one is best.
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Copied this from the thread above which asking similar question.
I say choose Samsung. This is coming from an apple hater, but Android does influenced by apple a bit. Please HTC if you're gonna copy Apple, copy the good stuff. Not supporting sd card is a big no no for me. I like htc's design and sense but I can't bring myself to like them while Samsung is around. Yes I know Android nexus also doesn't support sd card but Samsung it's Samsung. ..

Exchanged HTC one for s4 OMG AMAZING

Ok so I have had the s3 and the note 2 prior to switching to t-mobile, when I switched I figured id get the HTC one since I didnt or wouldnt have had that option with verizon, I must say I hated the phone. The hardware is nice dont get me wrong but the software SUCKS. The camera SUCKS. even the camera software is no were near as nice and useful as it is on the S4. I am so friggin happy with the s4 I dont know why I thought I would like the One. It may be the best device in the world for some but Id have to say to go from a samsung to an HTC Is like going backwards, and I even thought the gestures and smart scroll and all that would be to gimmicky and never get used but honestly, I love it!
Anyway, I just had to vent this. There were so many things wrong with sense in my opinion and if I can make anyones choice easier and allow them to be satisfied then hope I helped.

Lol.
Welcome to amazing world of samsung.
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Lol.
Welcome to amazing world of samsung.
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Well, like I said I had the S3 and then the note 2. The note 2 being the phone I had about a month ago before we switched to t-mobile. lets just say I was going through some serious withdrawals having the note 2

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Well, like I said I had the S3 and then the note 2. The note 2 being the phone I had about a month ago before we switched to t-mobile. lets just say I was going through some serious withdrawals having the note 2
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Lol. Welcome back then lol
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A friend of mine at work just got the HTC One and I must say, yes hardware wise it's a nice looking phone and the speaker quality is the best around no question. Other than that, the software was Meh, no 4.2.2. Thank God I went with the GS4, made the right decision.

A lot of people probably hate TouchWiz too until they got used to it. Count me as one of them (well actually, I didn't hate it). For me, I'm a Samsung guy and have had in succession the Note 2, S3, and now S4. A family member of mine has the Nexus 4 and while the phone was so debloated, so stock, I felt it was missing so many features. Yes, some people will love it that way, no bloat and pure Android. I'm so used to TW and all its (fancy) features, I feel any other phone is not as powerful if they don't have the same features.
Obviously, Sense is a different launcher/style than a lot of us are used too (by us, I mean the Samsung folks). That doesn't mean it's horrible. I for one would love to try out the Sense theme, if I can get my hands on an HTC One. I'm all in for new/different features - like Windows 8. A lot of people hated it from the start because it was so different, so not intuitive they say. In response, I have to say, get used to it before making the judgment. It's taken me a couple months just to get used to Windows 8. Certainly, the Metro I don't care with, and would prefer Win7. Until I can do the same thing with Sense, I can't say whether the difference with TW makes it better, worse, or it's just different than TW.

I feel you made the wrong choice. Those additional features will only be used for showing off and you only have about 8 GB of storage compared to about 28 on the one. Speakers are the best and I'm sure HTC will do a good job pushing out updates. Lastly, the one's screen is better and not as big so it is easier to use. I was going to get the s4 at first but then I asked myself what I really wanted. That's why I routed for the one
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I feel you made the wrong choice. Those additional features will only be used for showing off and you only have about 8 GB of storage compared to about 28 on the one. Speakers are the best and I'm sure HTC will do a good job pushing out updates. Lastly, the one's screen is better and not as big so it is easier to use. I was going to get the s4 at first but then I asked myself what I really wanted. That's why I routed for the one
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Good for you, I'm happy I had an sd slot so i can switch from my 64gb to my 32gb where I store my movies to my 16gb where I have my tv shows. Am also glad I am able to have an extra battery in case I will be able from my charger for an extended period of time. But if you dont like having those options then good for you!
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Dont turn this into a One vs S4 thread, both phones are amazing. I'm a Samsung guy and i fell in love with the One, as long as you're happy with your phone then its all gravy. This thread is kinda pointless too btw.

To each their own.
Me personally, neither phone could sway me away from the N2.
Fancy pants Note ||

Neither phone impressed me. Samsung pulled an apple trick it's the same freaking phone! HTC did the same thing, no removable battery and no expandable memory! I'm waiting for the S5 or the next Gnex. Just my 2cents. Meanwhile I'm wearing out my S2.
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bigox said:
Neither phone impressed me. Samsung pulled an apple trick it's the same freaking phone! HTC did the same thing, no removable battery and no expandable memory! I'm waiting for the S5 or the next Gnex. Just my 2cents. Meanwhile I'm wearing out my S2.
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Honestly, if the htc had expandable memory and removable battery I might, MIGHT, have gone with the one. It really is a beautiful phone and I would love to have those front facing speakers. But for me no exp memory and nonremovable batt = fail
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Plastic and about 8 Gb of storage = fail
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Plastic and about 8 Gb of storage = fail
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Metal phone with a plastic case and no expandable memory/battery = epic fail
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Why all the hate?? We're all here for the same reasons, regardless of what phones we choose to buy. Different things are better for different people.

dandiele said:
Ok so I have had the s3 and the note 2 prior to switching to t-mobile, when I switched I figured id get the HTC one since I didnt or wouldnt have had that option with verizon, I must say I hated the phone. The hardware is nice dont get me wrong but the software SUCKS. The camera SUCKS. even the camera software is no were near as nice and useful as it is on the S4. I am so friggin happy with the s4 I dont know why I thought I would like the One. It may be the best device in the world for some but Id have to say to go from a samsung to an HTC Is like going backwards, and I even thought the gestures and smart scroll and all that would be to gimmicky and never get used but honestly, I love it!
Anyway, I just had to vent this. There were so many things wrong with sense in my opinion and if I can make anyones choice easier and allow them to be satisfied then hope I helped.
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It's interesting, I recently purchased a TMO Galaxy S4 coming from a 2.5 year old HTC Sensation and I have *almost the exact opposite experience. The hardware (screen, form factor - obviously - it's just plain insane) and the camera software/interface is top notch! But the remainder of the experience felt like I was put back onto some odd looking, super sized font version of froyo - and not just by looks, I immediately noticed a drop in usability in some key aspects of the OS (e.g. email, sms, dialer, launcher) vs what I had gotten used to with HTC Sense.
Either way, not trying to be a troll. It's funny what we get used to and come to expect based on past experiences. The S4 will have to go back (thanks TMO return policy!) and it's gonna be me and the "old" HTC Sensation for a while longer. (I'd get the HTC One, but have to agree - no SD cards slot? wtf lol)
s13

But it has 32gbs
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Towle said:
Why all the hate?? We're all here for the same reasons, regardless of what phones we choose to buy. Different things are better for different people.
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Have both the One and the S4, use the s4 more than the one. Thinking if I should just still the One.
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It's interesting, I recently purchased a TMO Galaxy S4 coming from a 2.5 year old HTC Sensation and I have *almost the exact opposite experience. The hardware (screen, form factor - obviously - it's just plain insane) and the camera software/interface is top notch! But the remainder of the experience felt like I was put back onto some odd looking, super sized font version of froyo - and not just by looks, I immediately noticed a drop in usability in some key aspects of the OS (e.g. email, sms, dialer, launcher) vs what I had gotten used to with HTC Sense.
Either way, not trying to be a troll. It's funny what we get used to and come to expect based on past experiences. The S4 will have to go back (thanks TMO return policy!) and it's gonna be me and the "old" HTC Sensation for a while longer. (I'd get the HTC One, but have to agree - no SD cards slot? wtf lol)
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I've had a similar and also slightly different experience. I also came from an HTC Sensation which I've had for about 2 years, previously owned the og Galaxy S (Vibrant), and instead of the S4 I chose the HTC one, and got the GS4 for my wife instead.
Here are my observations since I actually have both phones and can compare them with NO bias...
-A lot of the online mainstream reviews you'll read between the two hit the nail on the head. The One imo is a better "phone". It does indeed have less features then the S4 (although many of them are gimmicks like the eye scrolling/tracking, airview, and a few others) but the speakers are far superior, which obviously aids for anyone who ever uses speakerphone or plays music and videos, the call quality is also a little better, the phone is more fluid and faster than the GS4 with basic functions like scrolling screens etc, and the phone of course has a MUCH more "premium" feel. Sense 5 is MUUUUUCH better than past versions of Sense and like a lot of review say, it *DOES* improve over stock android in actual useful features. The look is subjective of course but it's flat, useful and fast, and to me that's all that matters. The camera is better than any past smartphone I've ever used (Tmobile Dash>G1>Vibrant>Sensation>One) so I like it personally, but compared to its rivals like the GS4 I guess it's not the best, but does everything I've ever asked of it VERY well so no complaints from me.
The GS4 on the other hand has a superior camera. The camera on the One isn't bad at all, and kills the Gs4 in low light conditions and the aspect ratio and wide lense captures waaay more in each frame, but the GS4 has more camera features, packs a crapload more detail in each shot, has some pretty useful camera modes the One doesn't have, and is just generally better. The Galaxy might not be made of aluminum like the one, but it's lighter and imo actually feels better in my hand (without a case). Once you add a case in the mix, hand feel is null and void obviously but if you like to go commando the Gs4 feels better and will probably hold up to abuse better than the One due to the polycarbonate body and gorilla glass 3. The screen on the Galaxy is bigger than the One while the actual phone altogether is lighter and smaller so that's pretty nice, but it's not really THAT noticeable to be honest. One huge, huge advantage the Galaxy has over the One is removable storage and battery, which *USED* to be a deal breaker for me back in the day, but I've learned to live without them since I got my One, so either way it's a definite advantage but I guess how much so is up to the user. The Galaxy also has native quick settings built in which the one doesn't have (yet), so minor issue but another positive for the galaxy.
As far as negative for each, I'm actually on my second One already. Somehow my camera lense glass cracked even though I keep the phone in case and have never dropped it or bumped it. It just appeared one day in addition to the top speaker grill starting to separate from the body. Weird, but I got it replaced and the replacement is doing fine and actually stands up to overclocking and undervolting better than my old unit, so that made me pretty happy lol. That's really the only issue I've had with mine, but on the whole, the phone is definitely more fragile than the Galaxy WITHOUT a case. It scratches easier, dents, chips, etc...while the Galaxy doesn't.
The Galaxy feels better in hand (caseless) than the One, but it's slippery as hell and slides around easily and can be more prone to being dropped. Again, only an issue without a case, but this is my observation.
Touchwiz...personally I think it's a mess. I don't care for the look, as many have said it feels like your still running Gingerbread 2.3. The look hasn't changed much since I had a Vibrant running Touchwiz from 3 years ago, and while Touchwiz DOES have some unique features and generally does more than Sense and stock android...it's just ugly as hell while doing so lol. The Galaxy also does feel a tad slower and microstutters every so often while the One is almost always fluid and seems much smoother even tho it's running a newer version of android and has slightly better specs on hardware...it just doesn't "feel" like it. Other than that it's a fantastic phone and we haven't had any problems with it whatsoever unlike the One.
Between the two...if I just had to pick one, it's a toss up. I prefer my One honestly but I can see the advantages of the Galaxy S4 with it having more features so I'll just break it down like this...
Usefuleness as an actual phone
One>S4
Camera
GS4>One
In hand feel, portability
One=GS4
Usefulness as a multimedia device
GS4=One
Expandability
GS4>One
I will say that between the two if this even matters to anyone...I get WAAAAAY more props and questions and even jealous stares directed towards the One lol...

I've been a die-hard HTC fan since the original G1. Today, I JUMP'd ship.

Since the very beginning of Android, I've been a die-hard HTC user. To this day, my favorite phone of all time was my HTC Nexus One. I will always be a fan of HTC and their devices, even the sparsely-developed ones that I've worked with (and fought with) over the years. I will surely miss my old HTC Amaze.
But today, I chose logic over loyalty. I literally "JUMP'd" ship from my familiar S.S. HTC fan-boat into the Sea of Samsung. The specs on the Samsung Galaxy S 4 are truly some of the most impressive I've ever seen. IMHO, they easily outstrip the HTC One, which I had originally planned on purchasing. A quad-core 1900mhz Snapdragon processor? External SD memory that's expandable to 64gb? A 13mp camera? 2600 mAh battery? That's insanely ridiculous. This smartphone is more powerful than my HP laptop, which was top-of-the-line when I purchased it 2 years ago. And considering it was the same price as the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z, I had no choice. I bought it.
I have never been a fan of Samsung devices, or Korean-made devices in general. I've been burned one too many times by LG to EVER buy another device from them, I don't care how awesome the new G2 looks. My poor G-Slate has been sitting on my bookshelf for 6 months now, the only device I ever permanently bricked. But the specs on the Galaxy S 4 were just too good for me to overlook. It's been many years since I've worked on or tested a Samsung device, but I look forward to contributing what I can.
Here's to hoping this behemoth of a phone is all it's cracked up to be. *crosses fingers*

Bling_Diggity said:
Since the very beginning of Android, I've been a die-hard HTC user. To this day, my favorite phone of all time was my HTC Nexus One. I will always be a fan of HTC and their devices, even the sparsely-developed ones that I've worked with (and fought with) over the years. I will surely miss my old HTC Amaze.
But today, I chose logic over loyalty. I literally "JUMP'd" ship from my familiar S.S. HTC fan-boat into the Sea of Samsung. The specs on the Samsung Galaxy S 4 are truly some of the most impressive I've ever seen. IMHO, they easily outstrip the HTC One, which I had originally planned on purchasing. A quad-core 1900mhz Snapdragon processor? External SD memory that's expandable to 64gb? A 13mp camera? 2600 mAh battery? That's insanely ridiculous. This smartphone is more powerful than my HP laptop, which was top-of-the-line when I purchased it 2 years ago. And considering it was the same price as the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z, I had no choice. I bought it.
I have never been a fan of Samsung devices, or Korean-made devices in general. I've been burned one too many times by LG to EVER buy another device from them, I don't care how awesome the new G2 looks. My poor G-Slate has been sitting on my bookshelf for 6 months now, the only device I ever permanently bricked. But the specs on the Galaxy S 4 were just too good for me to overlook. It's been many years since I've worked on or tested a Samsung device, but I look forward to contributing what I can.
Here's to hoping this behemoth of a phone is all it's cracked up to be. *crosses fingers*
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Nice! I'm very sure you won't regret your decision.
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Bling_Diggity said:
Since the very beginning of Android, I've been a die-hard HTC user. To this day, my favorite phone of all time was my HTC Nexus One. I will always be a fan of HTC and their devices, even the sparsely-developed ones that I've worked with (and fought with) over the years. I will surely miss my old HTC Amaze.
But today, I chose logic over loyalty. I literally "JUMP'd" ship from my familiar S.S. HTC fan-boat into the Sea of Samsung. The specs on the Samsung Galaxy S 4 are truly some of the most impressive I've ever seen. IMHO, they easily outstrip the HTC One, which I had originally planned on purchasing. A quad-core 1900mhz Snapdragon processor? External SD memory that's expandable to 64gb? A 13mp camera? 2600 mAh battery? That's insanely ridiculous. This smartphone is more powerful than my HP laptop, which was top-of-the-line when I purchased it 2 years ago. And considering it was the same price as the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z, I had no choice. I bought it.
I have never been a fan of Samsung devices, or Korean-made devices in general. I've been burned one too many times by LG to EVER buy another device from them, I don't care how awesome the new G2 looks. My poor G-Slate has been sitting on my bookshelf for 6 months now, the only device I ever permanently bricked. But the specs on the Galaxy S 4 were just too good for me to overlook. It's been many years since I've worked on or tested a Samsung device, but I look forward to contributing what I can.
Here's to hoping this behemoth of a phone is all it's cracked up to be. *crosses fingers*
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As someone who's owned both devices, I'd have to say you picked the worst time to jump off the HTC ship. On paper the S4 has an edge in battery through a larger removable battery and is clocked .2 higher than the One. The advantages stop there. As far as the memory goes, the One comes with either 32gb or 64gb and that was sufficient (for me) , therefore neutralizing the advantage of being able to use an sd card. Now let's discuss the software. Despite the higher clock speed in the S4, Touchwiz is a lagfest and essentially neutralizes that already negligible advantage of higher clock speed. Sense 5 is beautiful, polished, and provides a NON-LAG experience. The camera on the One is also nice, but it doesn't compare to the S4 outside of low light shots IMO. This being said, the S4 is still an excellent device and I'm sure you will enjoy owning one, welcome aboard. I wouldn't say it is better than the One though. Just my 2 cents
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Bling_Diggity said:
Since the very beginning of Android, I've been a die-hard HTC user. To this day, my favorite phone of all time was my HTC Nexus One. I will always be a fan of HTC and their devices, even the sparsely-developed ones that I've worked with (and fought with) over the years. I will surely miss my old HTC Amaze.
But today, I chose logic over loyalty. I literally "JUMP'd" ship from my familiar S.S. HTC fan-boat into the Sea of Samsung. The specs on the Samsung Galaxy S 4 are truly some of the most impressive I've ever seen. IMHO, they easily outstrip the HTC One, which I had originally planned on purchasing. A quad-core 1900mhz Snapdragon processor? External SD memory that's expandable to 64gb? A 13mp camera? 2600 mAh battery? That's insanely ridiculous. This smartphone is more powerful than my HP laptop, which was top-of-the-line when I purchased it 2 years ago. And considering it was the same price as the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z, I had no choice. I bought it.
I have never been a fan of Samsung devices, or Korean-made devices in general. I've been burned one too many times by LG to EVER buy another device from them, I don't care how awesome the new G2 looks. My poor G-Slate has been sitting on my bookshelf for 6 months now, the only device I ever permanently bricked. But the specs on the Galaxy S 4 were just too good for me to overlook. It's been many years since I've worked on or tested a Samsung device, but I look forward to contributing what I can.
Here's to hoping this behemoth of a phone is all it's cracked up to be. *crosses fingers*
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Like you, i had the same experience. I had numerous htc devices: imagio, g2, sentation, amaze, one s, one x, one x+. Loved them. Htc started leaving sd cards out (turned me off). I hated touchwiz now i am in love with it. Laggy? Yes it is. Hopefully ill get better. Loved and still do pre -sense 5 iterations. Most i hate about sense now is when they started incorporating the dotted menu in the botton of the screen. What in the world were they thinking to waist screen space with 3 dots?. Anyways sometimes hate becomes love. I hated touchwiz now i am in love with it.

I'm a die hard Samsung fan. But I never let passion take over reason. I HATED having such a powerful device with such a laggy launcher. The end of my woes? Custom rom/kernel with Holo launcher. Complete with cLock widget and sunbeam live wallpaper. Gives me a Google S4 phone-like experience and speed whilst retaining the touch wiz features and camera. Now I'm glad I kept this phone... Daylight pictures are just simply ridiculously good looking...
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Just switching launchers without rooting and flashing another rom took care of the lag. This is a great phone!
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Mr. bird said:
Just switching launchers without rooting and flashing another rom took care of the lag. This is a great phone!
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Indeed it does, but I like having full control of my phone

No doubt HTC make good products. I came from a Nexus One myself and also an HTC One S. I don't regret getting the GS4 over the HTC One which is a good phone also IMO. It just come down to what you're looking for. My daughter wants a GS4 also, I might talk her into an HTC One just in case I want to trade.