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How safe is clockworkmod recovery

Does clockworkmod overwrite the stock recovery? If it does then to me it is not a safe method to root a phone. If something goes wrong while flashing clockwork you will lose the stock recovery and can never reflash anything else. Is my understanding correct? This is why I am hesitant to root my phone. Please advice.
Thanks.

datzstr8 said:
Does clockworkmod overwrite the stock recovery? If it does then to me it is not a safe method to root a phone. If something goes wrong while flashing clockwork you will lose the stock recovery and can never reflash anything else. Is my understanding correct? This is why I am hesitant to root my phone. Please advice.
Thanks.
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Its fairly safe. You could always flash the recovery thru odin found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332103

Has anyone tried to flash clockwork and failed? What happened afterwards? I assume odin won't work anymore because it requires a recovery partition to work.
I guess what I am still confused about is if clockwork writes over the stock recovery or does it keep the stock recovery in-tacked. I would prefer the later since then you can never break your phone.

With my dilemma would it be best for me to not install clockwork and just use an insecure kernel? Thanks.

It does overwrite the stock recovery i believe. But its very safe to flash. Ive never heard of someone borking a phone installing cwm recovery.

I have literally NEVER had a problem with clockworkmod, it's one of the best pieces of mobile software I've ever used.

kabuk1 said:
I have literally NEVER had a problem with clockworkmod, it's one of the best pieces of mobile software I've ever used.
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Whole heartedly agree.
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datzstr8 said:
Has anyone tried to flash clockwork and failed? What happened afterwards? I assume odin won't work anymore because it requires a recovery partition to work.
I guess what I am still confused about is if clockwork writes over the stock recovery or does it keep the stock recovery in-tacked. I would prefer the later since then you can never break your phone.
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Odin has NOTHING to do with the recovery partition. ODIN only works in download mode on your phone. You can have a blank recovery partition and it'll still work, as well as the rom, and flashing other things too. The recovery partition stock has one function, to do a factory reset incase of problems. (Not to be confused with the one from inside android, that only formats /data. This one replaces the system partition as well.) CWM is very safe, I really wouldn't worry about it. Just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
Also, once you get cwm installed on there, I'd suggest doing a backup before you make any changes. Always handy to have your stock image at hand, just incase.
And also, even with stock recovery, you can still break your phone. It's not easy to brick a GS2, but it can be done. Just remember, as long as you can get the phone into download mode, it's not bricked. You can always odin back the stock partitions if you run into issues.

I was a little worried about using it with this phone. No problems to report. Just had to make backup in recovery.
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Thanks mstrk242 for the great explanation. I thought the "download" and "recovery" were two states of a single program. It is clear now that they are separate. You just cleared all my worries.
You said "It's not easy to brick a GS2, but it can be done," can you tell me how this can happen? Just curious. Thanks much.

If you're going to be rooting/flashing at all, you'll have to get comfortable with cwm, Odin, and the other tools that are available for the phone.
This is my second Android phone, both have been rooted with custom roms, and at any point I've run into trouble (which is rare) I've found the tools and the help I need on here by searching a little bit. If you're willing to spend the time doing a bit of reading and know your way around a computer a bit, you won't have a problem. Just make sure you're 100% sure whatever you're flashing is for YOUR phone hardware.
It's not nearly as scary as it sounds once you get going on it and there's a lot to benefit from it.
Cheers and good luck.
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datzstr8 said:
Thanks mstrk242 for the great explanation. I thought the "download" and "recovery" were two states of a single program. It is clear now that they are separate. You just cleared all my worries.
You said "It's not easy to brick a GS2, but it can be done," can you tell me how this can happen? Just curious. Thanks much.
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Easiest way is to flash a rom for the wrong phone and mess up the partition table. (IE flash an international version of the gs2 rom, you'll brick.)
As long as you get cwm installed on there, and flash the correct roms, you should really be ok.

You can go back to the stock recovery easily. You can do it through Odin or flash an unroot rom
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[Backup] Stock Rom

Here is a stock rom backup for the Sprint G S III. I made the backup after doing a data wipe, so the rom is pure, no lingering data, ect.
Instructions:
-unzip the .zip file
-move the backup folder into your existing CWM folder on the S III internal memory
-restore in recovery
Again, this is a stock backup as some people need it.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/fresh_GSIII_backup.zip
From my dropbox, so hit it easy.

Nice, know of some that will appreciate this.

bizdady said:
Nice, know of some that will appreciate this.
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Me too
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<3

Warning: if you flash this make sure you clear Google wallets data as shown in a qbking77 video so you don't brick the secure element
Sent from my SPH-L710

How is this in any way a stock rom?

nabbed said:
How is this in any way a stock rom?
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Give him a break. At least this isn't in development.
And he at least did something that could be useful until we get a real stock rom .zip or .tar
~E.R.A.

nabbed said:
How is this in any way a stock rom?
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You have been in every thread criticizing everyone else s contributions...what the hell have you contributed?

nabbed said:
How is this in any way a stock rom?
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It's not, it's a backup. That's not the point, it's still useful to many users that have possibly screwed their device but still have access to recovery. Especially until something official comes out.

will there be a stock package on odin different than just the stock boot image? my phone is bricked for no apparent reason(see my thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731416) and flashing the stock boot image in odin does nothing. i Also cant get into CWM to flash my backup...

pizzlewizzle said:
will there be a stock package on odin different than just the stock boot image? my phone is bricked for no apparent reason(see my thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731416) and flashing the stock boot image in odin does nothing. i Also cant get into CWM to flash my backup...
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Eventually there will be, but a lot of people [to include major developers] still don't have the phone yet, so we'll have to be patient. I looked over it, though currently are you able to get into recovery still or no? Additionally did you try re-flashing the cwm recovery in odin?

I can get into download mode but not into CWMR. The only thing i have tried flashing since it bricked is boot-stock-sprint-sph-l710.tar (which sort of worked the first time). I'm at work and don't have my phone on me so i guess i could try flashing CWMR again later but this is really weird. Thanks for the reply. This is my first Sprint phone, but on my Droid X we had a program similar to Odin where you could push a .sbf file that included everything stock and basically just reset your phone to stock. Do these exist for Sprint phones? The . SBF files were usually rather large(around 350mb or so) but the boot-stock-sprint-sph-l710.tar is around 10 or 15 mb so i know it doesn't include all the system files...
Thanks again

teh roxxorz said:
Eventually there will be, but a lot of people [to include major developers] still don't have the phone yet, so we'll have to be patient. I looked over it, though currently are you able to get into recovery still or no? Additionally did you try re-flashing the cwm recovery in odin?
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Lol i just replied the same thing over on another thread he posted in. Stop jumping around pizzle! if you can get into Odin chances are good you can flash cwm and then restore the backup

hahaha sorry about that. When I try and boot into recovery it looks like its about to go to Recovery and then freezes on the Galaxy S III screen. I'll try reflashing CWMR when I get home...Thanks for the advice

So is a back up a nandriod?
I have made a few but never resorted one, you just flash it same as a ROM and your done?
I misplaced my stock nandroid when I flashed CM10 build 2 and my extFs SD card had to be formatted to use again, I was sure I had in on PC but can't find it.
Thanks!

How can I get CM10 while on UVALH3?

Still a major noob here. I want to get cyanogenmod 10 onto my s3 but I've had issues ever since putting on UVALH3. If I want to get CM10 can someone walk me through all the steps to get there, or is it just impossible?

ambitionlessness said:
Still a major noob here. I want to get cyanogenmod 10 onto my s3 but I've had issues ever since putting on UVALH3. If I want to get CM10 can someone walk me through all the steps to get there, or is it just impossible?
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Do you have a recovery installed like CWM or TWRP? Lets start with that.

sipple31 said:
Do you have a recovery installed like CWM or TWRP? Lets start with that.
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Could it be I was supposed to do this before flashing CM10? Because I simply rooted installed freegs3, wiped data and caches and all, then I flashed cm10. Was that the wrong way? Should I go back to stock and restart the process? Because right now for one, custom kernels are giving me strange issues. Also, a ktoonz kernel dev told me my log cat pointed towards corrupt partition or Rom, but I'm using cm10

isikh said:
Could it be I was supposed to do this before flashing CM10? Because I simply rooted installed freegs3, wiped data and caches and all, then I flashed cm10. Was that the wrong way? Should I go back to stock and restart the process? Because right now for one, custom kernels are giving me strange issues. Also, a ktoonz kernel dev told me my log cat pointed towards corrupt partition or Rom, but I'm using cm10
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pretty sure having a custom recovery isn't your issue if you are to the point of wiping caches and flashing kernels. The OP is asking how to wipe a stock ROM off and get CM on his/her phone i'm pretty sure.

sipple31 said:
pretty sure having a custom recovery isn't your issue if you are to the point of wiping caches and flashing kernels. The OP is asking how to wipe a stock ROM off and get CM on his/her phone i'm pretty sure.
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I was asking about myself because I thought I had a similar problem

sipple31 said:
Do you have a recovery installed like CWM or TWRP? Lets start with that.
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No i do not. I tried rooting my phone and it didn't take, and you need to root before CWM right? I had CWM when I was on Uvalh2 but when I went through the process of Uvalh3 I guess I lost it. Should I go ahead and do it? I have the zip file in my phone, still.
I should also mention that when I go into recovery the android dude is fallen over, dead. I'm guessing that's a bad sign.

That just means you're on stock recovery. Odin a rooted rom which you can find in the dev forums (root without tripping flash), then install twrp or cwm, then flash cm10, then flash desired radio.
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Will stock recovery reset data?

Basically I got a notification earlier today about the new update but im rooted and have twrp so it wouldnt let me. So basically what im thinking of doing is if I put the stock recovery on I can triangle away and then ota update and still remain stock rooted. I know I can just flash the update but I heard some files might be missing amd im a little ocd and would just prefer to get it the legit way for my own knowledge . But my question is flashing to the default recovery will it erase all of my data? If it does are there anyways that I can restore the recovery amd keep my saved files and app saves and such. Much thanks and sorry for being a little newbish
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not.plugged.in said:
Basically I got a notification earlier today about the new update but im rooted and have twrp so it wouldnt let me. So basically what im thinking of doing is if I put the stock recovery on I can triangle away and then ota update and still remain stock rooted. I know I can just flash the update but I heard some files might be missing amd im a little ocd and would just prefer to get it the legit way for my own knowledge . But my question is flashing to the default recovery will it erase all of my data? If it does are there anyways that I can restore the recovery amd keep my saved files and app saves and such. Much thanks and sorry for being a little newbish
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No, flashing stock recovery won't erase your data.
Nevertheless, you should save anandroid from trwp on your computer just in case.
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Thank you this will save me a lot of hassle trying to go from ljc to ma7, ill just let the network do it for me
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Here's what you do:
1) Backup all apps & data w titanium.
2) Boot into recovery (TWRP)
3) Backup all partitions (including efs & modem) to you EXTERNAL SD.
4) Flash the LJC Factory Restore zip from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086769
*This will restore your phone to original factory condition, with no evidence that you ever rooted or modified the phone.
Boot the phone back up with minimal settings (i.e don't bother restoring all your stuff) then reboot to recovery and flash the LJCtoMA7 All in One zip found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148604. After that, flash the MA7 ROM, and boot back into the system. In Settings > About Device you should see your baseband and build upgraded to MA7. Now just restore your apps and data from Titanium.
Sent from an evil, dark place...
~ ROM: JellyBomb v14.0
~ Radio: L900VPAMA7
~ Kernel: Perseus alpha32

not.plugged.in said:
Basically I got a notification earlier today about the new update but im rooted and have twrp so it wouldnt let me. So basically what im thinking of doing is if I put the stock recovery on I can triangle away and then ota update and still remain stock rooted. I know I can just flash the update but I heard some files might be missing amd im a little ocd and would just prefer to get it the legit way for my own knowledge . But my question is flashing to the default recovery will it erase all of my data? If it does are there anyways that I can restore the recovery amd keep my saved files and app saves and such. Much thanks and sorry for being a little newbish
Sent from my SPH-L900
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It will not. I just did this today. Had to run triangle away first. Then unrooted using superuser clean up method. Then installed stock recovery. Galaxynote2root.com makes it easy. They even have the stock recovery for the sprint note 2.
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[Q] feventh ngserta

I rooted my T-Mobile galaxy note 2 yesterday following mskip video. Everything worked fine. My question is during the video it gives u the option if u wanna flash custom rom or just use the stock. I chose stock which was option 2 In hindsight I should have chose 3 to flash custom rom. Im not that experienced with rooting actually first time. But now I wanna like redo the whole process and choose option 3. Before I rooted I back my files up with astro. Once I rooted I backed everything up with titanium. Am I just stuck like this or what can I do. Please help. Thanks

I'm pretty sure you can flash custom rom. Just download custom recovery.
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mlewis898 said:
I rooted my T-Mobile galaxy note 2 yesterday following mskip video. Everything worked fine. My question is during the video it gives u the option if u wanna flash custom rom or just use the stock. I chose stock which was option 2 In hindsight I should have chose 3 to flash custom rom. Im not that experienced with rooting actually first time. But now I wanna like redo the whole process and choose option 3. Before I rooted I back my files up with astro. Once I rooted I backed everything up with titanium. Am I just stuck like this or what can I do. Please help. Thanks
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download rom manager and install cwm recovery. then download whatever rom you want put it on the root of your externalsd, boot into recovery wipr everything then install rom. Then READ AND FOLLOW OP INSTRUCTIONS. Should be all :good:

Both above are exactly correct..
But a custom rom replaces the Operating system that is on your Note .With one customized by the rom developer. This will prevent you from getting any Samsung updates. (except from community).
Check out the rom thread of the rom you are interested in. Look at post about any issues . What stock features work or do not work..
Also if you are under warranty. You void your warranty and will trip your flash counter. (CAN be fixed with triangle away).
I think you might should keep reading and get a better understanding before you go any further. We would really hate to see your next post..
HELP MY NOTE WILL NOT BOOT.
Good luck .. Read 3 times backup twice Flash once . and Be happy.

ragzz03 said:
download rom manager and install cwm recovery. then download whatever rom you want put it on the root of your externalsd, boot into recovery wipr everything then install rom. Then READ AND FOLLOW OP INSTRUCTIONS. Should be all :good:
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Free thanks. Lol. Imo twerp is a much better recovery all around
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