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I have a $250 Walmart gift card. I'm due for an upgrade on AT&T, but the GC would make this cost about the same as any of the new phones on contract.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-Galaxy-I9250-GSM-Cell-Phone-Black-Unlocked/19612825
I noticed the storage is 16gb instead of 32, but that's not a big deal as I believe the storage is expandable.
Just want to consult the GNex experts
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I have a $250 Walmart gift card. I'm due for an upgrade on AT&T, but the GC would make this cost about the same as any of the new phones on contract.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-Galaxy-I9250-GSM-Cell-Phone-Black-Unlocked/19612825
I noticed the storage is 16gb instead of 32, but that's not a big deal as I believe the storage is expandable.
Just want to consult the GNex experts
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my friend, storage is nonexpandable
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The memory isn't expandable as the gnex has no SD slot.
Its 16gb because its the GSM model.
The GSM model is better in my eyes as it seems to have less problems than the vzw 4g version and it can be used all around the world.
300 dollars after using you gc seems an OK price.
I guess the question is, get this? Or buy something on contract like the Xperia Ion (should be out in a week or so)
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I guess the question is, get this? Or buy something on contract like the Xperia Ion (should be out in a week or so)
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newer isnt always better, and ud have fhe sony bloat like timescape and stuff really is useless. also, think about this, sony has like 10 devices coming out soon,what do u think the developer support would be like？ ya you might get a custom rom with stock ics, but very veru limited choices. anyways, the sonys dont even have the newer gen hardware, so i wouldnt consider the sonys. maybe the htc one x or s3 but not sony
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When did walmart start selling the GSM Nexus?!!?
Kevin Ma said:
newer isnt always better, and ud have fhe sony bloat like timescape and stuff really is useless. also, think about this, sony has like 10 devices coming out soon,what do u think the developer support would be like？ ya you might get a custom rom with stock ics, but very veru limited choices. anyways, the sonys dont even have the newer gen hardware, so i wouldnt consider the sonys. maybe the htc one x or s3 but not sony
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That's true, but I'd like a new device sooner than later, the One X and S3 are a ways off, especially the S3. I do fear a lack of support for the Ion, but the camera is top notch, and that is genuinely important for snapping pictures of the kids. My captivate is running fine with ICS, but the camera is only ok. Plus, I'd like a little bit bigger screen
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That's true, but I'd like a new device sooner than later, the One X and S3 are a ways off, especially the S3. I do fear a lack of support for the Ion, but the camera is top notch, and that is genuinely important for snapping pictures of the kids. My captivate is running fine with ICS, but the camera is only ok. Plus, I'd like a little bit bigger screen
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The nexus is great for snapping pictures of kids because it has an instant shutter.
Phones aren't great at taking pictures for framing. They're great for snapping quick shots for Facebook and quick emails.
My G2x had a crisp camera but couldn't snap my kid without motion blur.
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I know many of us are yet to recieve our phones but my girlfriend just asked me how long the One X will be considered a top of the range phone for. Will we see out the length of our contracts with it or will something else come along in the next year and trump it?
Discuss.
There's always something that will pop up that will be better. There's no possible way to see nothing better than the one x for two years.
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As always in the whole entertainment electronics industry it could be considered old, even tomorrow. That's the way it goes!
But why care about the future she should enjoy the device as most of us do!
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As always in the whole entertainment electronics industry it could be considered old, even tomorrow. That's the way it goes!
But why care about the future she should enjoy the device as most of us do!
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Agreed. She isnt getting a one x anyway, she loves her DHD too much.
Well I've been reading up the Samsung s3 and its going to be on level par to the one x but its said the one x display will still be better than the s3 which isn't due out till end of the year and tbh I've had my dhd for 18 months and yet in all that time I've not found another phone that would interest me until now the one x is going to hold its ground for at least 12 months then start losing its thrill but I reckon it will be between the 12 month and 18month Mark where something else will be the next big thing.
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Well I've been reading up the Samsung s3 and its going to be on level par to the one x but its said the one x display will still be better than the s3 which isn't due out till end of the year and tbh I've had my dhd for 18 months and yet in all that time I've not found another phone that would interest me until now the one x is going to hold its ground for at least 12 months then start losing its thrill but I reckon it will be between the 12 month and 18month Mark where something else will be the next big thing.
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Better is relative to your opinions
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Better is relative to your opinions
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Of course they are my opinions and the 20+ people who I have spoke to
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JimmyEatFood said:
I know many of us are yet to recieve our phones but my girlfriend just asked me how long the One X will be considered a top of the range phone for. Will we see out the length of our contracts with it or will something else come along in the next year and trump it?
Discuss.
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Since 2010, HTC themselves have gone from the Desire >Desire HD >Sensation/SensationXE >One X. Even if you ignore the minor change in the sensation range, that's four new flagship phones in less than two years.
You can bet your bottom dollar that the One X will be trumped before the year is out, but that's just the way the market is (if it wasn't, the One X probably wouldn't exist today).
All you can do is pick the phone that's right for you and enjoy it while you can. There will always be something else around the corner.
That's just my opinion of course
Bugsy
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Of course they are my opinions and the 20+ people who I have spoke to
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I'm just saying, you have no idea. You seem to be predisposed to HTC, so you probably favor the one x. S3 isn't even out yet, so I have no idea how you can judge by specs.
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As with any electronics, just get the best that you can afford at the time you want it. That's really all anyone can do. New models of phone, TV, HiFi, etc are out all the time, no question HTC will have a new 'flagship' model out within 12 months from previous track record.
My reasoning for getting the HTC One X is that my Desire that I bought 2 yr ago has held up pretty well until recently, also thanks to good ROM support here. The fact that this is a Tegra 3 phone and also that I had good experience with my previous HTC phone helped the decision that it should last fairly well.
Other phones such as GS3 might have some things slightly better/worse but I don't expect it to be night/day differences.
I would not be surprised if the Galaxy s3 processor doubled many of the ONE's benchmarks. So what? In the real world it will make little difference.
For at least the next year, both phones will still be much faster than 70% of other androids and both will run everything as smoothly as an iPhone. The processors in both the ONE and the S3 will in 2 years time be 5 or 10 times slower than the latest processors, but the difference in user experience will be trivial. Both will still run buttery smooth because the demands of android will not increase at anything like the same rate.
There will also be many more wifi hotspots to compensate for the lack of 4g and many apps will use cloud servers rather than the phone for processing. This will make benchmarks matter even less. In other words, by 2014 the ONE and S3 will look obsolete in terms of benchmarks but will still work really well for all the tasks they currently perform.
By 2014, both will be struggling with some games. More importantly, they will be lacking the new killer features from 2013 and 2014 such as 4g, light field camera, desktop mode, and built in Google TV. These will remain on the drawing board throughout 2012 but may become premium features by 2014. They will require new hardware components that probably wont be found in any phone that is built in 2012.
This is the bottom line: the ONE will not become obsolete due to any lack of processing power or benchmarks (which is all that the S3 will challenge it on) but rather to the lack of new features that are still in the development phase but will eventually require new and additional hardware components that neither the ONE or S3 have.
HTC changed their approach this year, dont think they will release anything else other than special editions of these. Maybe chuck Beats headphones in the box and give it a different lick of paint.
They want to rebuild the brand, get it plugging higher numbers again. Im just surprised they opted for different CPUs either side of the world, strange marketing move that one. They should have just stuck to Tegra 3 and plugged the gaming support or something.
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HTC changed their approach this year, dont think they will release anything else other than special editions of these. Maybe chuck Beats headphones in the box and give it a different lick of paint.
They want to rebuild the brand, get it plugging higher numbers again. Im just surprised they opted for different CPUs either side of the world, strange marketing move that one. They should have just stuck to Tegra 3 and plugged the gaming support or something.
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Except Tegra3 can't handle 4G without a separate radio (which kills the battery). Hence S4 for the LTE/4G versions, and Tegra3 elsewhere since quad core sounds better
Real world, both processors are near enough to equally capable, with each excelling in particular areas.
M.
Arthur Hucksake said:
HTC changed their approach this year, dont think they will release anything else other than special editions of these. Maybe chuck Beats headphones in the box and give it a different lick of paint.
They want to rebuild the brand, get it plugging higher numbers again. Im just surprised they opted for different CPUs either side of the world, strange marketing move that one. They should have just stuck to Tegra 3 and plugged the gaming support or something.
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Krait supports LTE, which is only used in the US.
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It really is dependent on what you consider a long life expectancy. I'm still using my HD2 and love the fact that I can flash so many different OS's and Roms to it. Lets be honest and HD2 with a good ROM and a huge/fast SD card gives the Sensation a run for it's money.
The One X will be one of those phones that will hold it's ground for years to come because of its raw power (although 1GB of RAM really?? ya could have upped it for a brother).
Kinda confused how some of you are saying the SGSIII is going to have a worse screen etc.....and I highly doubt they are going to wait until the end of the year to release it. Would be shooting themselves in the foot. Not like Apple where if they don't release something, they'll be fine for a while. Everything is pointing to a release soon, it's in carrier testing in korea already. Plus, they want to get in on the marketing opportunity of the London Olympics which is going to be huge for promoting the phone and getting the worlds attention.
It's also rumored to have the SAMOLED HD Plus so idk how you know the One X screen is going to be better along with 20+ of people you've asked, they haven't even seen it yet.
As for phone longevity. The One X will certainly become overtaken by other phones by the end of this year. There is so much competition within Android, though we already know the few top handset makers; HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc...The user experience will still be fine, though battery is my worry. Non-removable and with phones like the Razr Maxx getting absolutely stunning battery life, I can only see other flagship handsets coming with gigantic batteries also while keeping the slim profile. I mean, the phone is already unibody and theres no cover....why not just put a bigger battery in there?
If you want the phone and like it, just buy it and enjoy it until you feel ready to upgrade. I'd personally opt for Krait because Tegra 3 is running on a generation old architecture, but thats my opinion.
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Kinda confused how some of you are saying the SGSIII is going to have a worse screen etc.....and I highly doubt they are going to wait until the end of the year to release it. Would be shooting themselves in the foot. Not like Apple where if they don't release something, they'll be fine for a while. Everything is pointing to a release soon, it's in carrier testing in korea already. Plus, they want to get in on the marketing opportunity of the London Olympics which is going to be huge for promoting the phone and getting the worlds attention.
It's also rumored to have the SAMOLED HD Plus so idk how you know the One X screen is going to be better along with 20+ of people you've asked, they haven't even seen it yet.
As for phone longevity. The One X will certainly become overtaken by other phones by the end of this year. There is so much competition within Android, though we already know the few top handset makers; HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc...The user experience will still be fine, though battery is my worry. Non-removable and with phones like the Razr Maxx getting absolutely stunning battery life, I can only see other flagship handsets coming with gigantic batteries also while keeping the slim profile. I mean, the phone is already unibody and theres no cover....why not just put a bigger battery in there?
If you want the phone and like it, just buy it and enjoy it until you feel ready to upgrade. I'd personally opt for Krait because Tegra 3 is running on a generation old architecture, but thats my opinion.
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You're obviously a Samsung fan. Stop trolling the forum, take your dispute elsewhere this is not a 4th grade debate forum
F4M0U569 said:
You're obviously a Samsung fan. Stop trolling the forum, take your dispute elsewhere this is not a 4th grade debate forum
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Your clearly dumb and ignorant.
I'm stating facts......if it was the other way around and Samsung came out with the SGSIII already while everyone is talking about One X rumors, would you say the One X is going to come out the end of this year close to christmas??
Thats nearly a 2 year phone life cycle.
And what if they were saying OMG SAMOLED HD Plus is so much better than the One X screen when the One X hasn't even been released yet?? Wth do you say to that? Oh your just a fanboy, stop trolling the forums....this isn't a 4th grade debate.
I'm replying to the HTC fan troll how about that?
Maybe make some reasonable arguments and posts. Instead of just calling other people trolls. I didn't even say anything that made me sound like a Samsung fanboy, and thats because I'm not. I look at the specs, the facts, and base decisions around that.
The One X is good, but the One XL is better IMO. Tegra 3 is running four cortex-A9 cores built on the 40-45nm fabrication process. It's the same cores being used since the HTC Sensation and SGSII.
Look at Krait, running a brand new architecture built on the 28nm fabrication process. That's a pretty big gap, and it's showing in most of the benchmarks (though benchmarks should be taken with a grain of salt, they're a good hint at relative performance). 28nm fabrication means, less heat, less energy, while keeping about the same level of performance. But Krait has more pipelines etc...resulting in it being much faster than the Snapdragon S3.
Don't just go around calling people trolls, you sound like the 4th grader.
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I'm just saying, you have no idea. You seem to be predisposed to HTC, so you probably favor the one x. S3 isn't even out yet, so I have no idea how you can judge by specs.
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I have no idea!!! How rude more like you don't have a clue do you have any idea what phones have passed through my hands Erm no so maybe you should be quiet
Phone list
Htc desire hd(current phone)
Samsung galaxy s2
Sony xpreia s
IPhone 4s and 4
LG 3d
Just to name a few
As for the s3 its called trawling the net and doing research try it sometime you may find relevant information like I did before you start posting someone you know nothing about
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nonsense
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Sir, I have deemed your comment to stupid to actually bother replying due to idiotic and senseless babbling.
How long until you believe this phone becomes obsolete? I hear a lot of people (and read them, too) say that this is probably the first phone they'd go the full 2 years with...however, being realistic, when was the last time you made it two years with the same device? I haven't gone two years with the same device since the original Razr was in style.
I know, I know, at 2gb ram, dual core, etc, this phone is far from becoming obsolete, so I'll rephrase that question for you: What feature on a future phone would make you make the switch from your Galaxy S3? Or are you confident enough that there will be no other phone in the next two years that can replace it?
When they release phones with 16 core Opterons in them
In the wise words of amd..:
MOAR CORES!!!!!
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My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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I've actually been impressed with mobile gaming...never was big on it but I have played 3D Spiderman, GTA 3, Fifa12, PES 2011 and 2012, NBA Jam, etc...been a great experience recently
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gtuansdiamm said:
My old s1 still works great
And really do we need to be able to play skyrim on a phone
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Yes
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I don't know that I have a feature that I would jump ship for at this time ... but I wonder if, in 2 years, the size and use of applications will make even 2 gb of ram obsolete?
I'm in the camp that I can see keeping this phone throughout contract, but it is hard to tell if, in 1.5 to 2 years time, 2 GB of ram is actually not enough to keep up with programs/OS requirements. I don't necessarily think so, but remember back when 256MB of ram was a lot? That wasn't TOO long ago.
But, since I don't use my phone for intense gaming, I see this phone in my future for a long while - at least until the sandwich-making feature phone is announced.
I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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banzaiwolfe said:
I don't think it being obsolete would be the problem. I'll just want something newer at some point before two years. My Evo 3D could have easily lasted another year for my uses, but I still got a GS3.
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You and I think alike. Also had Evo 3D, Razr, GNex, but still had to have the S3 and more than likely getting the Note 2 when it comes out
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Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.
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Ill keep mine the whole 2 years (well 20 months or whatever it is) just like I have done with every other phone. While there may be something new and better out if you are always waiting for that you will never have a phone. That and the cost to buy phones off contract now are more than I want to spend.
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That's why you make a friend who works for AT&T and gets all the new phones free who can turn around and sell em to u for 100-150...lol
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It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
For some reason I feel someone is gonna make a 1080P phone, which is useless btw--just had to throw that out there for those that were unaware. Cores cores and more cores will probably be one of the more popular acts we see though, and 2GB-4GB Ram will be standard. Unfortunately I wish these companies would realize they need to relax b/c optimizations are practically nonexistent with Stock Android phones. I hate to constantly reference Apple & WP7/8, though it's a must. When i hear people telling me stuff like the HOAX or S3, or whatever dual/quad lags--lag. Seriously, these phones are using CPUs that theoretically should outperform the 4S/iPd3, but that's normally not the case. We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
P.S. Sorry about going off on a rant.
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We are getting to a point where everyone is rushing to get out the latest and greatest, however all the hardware don't mean **** when the software can't match it.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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I have been so disappointed with the radio in my t-mobile s3 because I cannot stream music without it cutting out constantly. I am actually going to demand a microsim adapter from them and return to my vibrant. If my data sucks so bad that I cannot consistently stream music in the car, what's the point of owning this without calling it just a pda.
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What are u streaming? And what coverage do you have? 3G? H+?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again here, I love Android OS but in terms of refinement iOS is better put together overall (speed, battery life, overall smoothness). Thats just my opinion.
and yes, quad core, 2GB RAM-LTE device is already out there in Korea... it wont be long until our dual core, 2GB RAM, LTE gets outdone hardware-wise down here
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And it only took around 2 months for it to become obsolete then, not ideal in the world I would prefer, but I suppose it can't be helped. This phone could had been so much more if Samsung stuck with the SGX instead of adopting the Mali-400. It would had been so cool to have the CPU part of the S4 combined with a dual/quad SGX543/544 like the ipad/iphones. Those GPUs outperform even the silly Tegra 3 & its fancy 16 cores(which are just 16 weak cores throw together ). I don't know what Sammy or Qualcomm were thinking about. Everyone is just dropping the ball all over the place these days.
I'm not really sure, mainly because I'm not entirely vested in this phone as it is, so it probably wouldn't take much, provided I could sell this one and cover the majority cost of a replacement phone.
I think something with sufficient horsepower to run some things which even this phone can't, but that remains to be seen. One thing that could almost definitely sell me is a flagship phone like this one that has a hardware keyboard. The problem is that I'm in the minority, so a flagship Galaxy S or Nexus phone is highly unlikely to have one, and I care ever so slightly more about the fact that flagship phones have thriving development communities, whereas one-off phones, which I may like more, won't get the same kind of attention from either developers or manufacturers.
I'll keep my phone until my contract is up. I always have (except for my BB Storm which I *****ed about until they upgraded me). My OG Droid Inc lasted for 2 years until I got this S3 and it was still in like new condition. I was tired of the small screen, but the devs here kept the phone fresh.
Hell, part of me misses my Inc. (Love this phone, though.)
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Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings.
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Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
An old Startac is obsolete because it It can no longer be used. My old Motorola RAZR is not obsolete because I can still use it
for it's intended purpose.
I would say the phone will not be obsolete for many years to come. How can a device me considered obsolete if there is a phone
with a faster CPU or more memory? The phone can still be used for it's intended purpose.
My S3 can not do anything my Vibrant couldn't (with the same mechanicals), it only does it better.
Ian
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Do you mean the dual core 800MHz in the 4S? That is Apple's current offering.
Since the definition of obsolete is...
1. out of use or practice; not current
2. out of date; unfashionable or outmoded
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Actually when I said latest offering I was referencing the iPad 3. And actually I stated the GPU in Android devices are all obsolete(as in not current in terms of power). The Legendary SGX543 MP4 in the iPad 3 mops the floor of every single Android device to ever touch this world, even the soon to be made Adreno 320 in the new S4 QUAD(snapdragon) fails to match the creature. Even the 4S' SGX543 MP2 is barely phased by the Mali 400, Adreno 225, and Tegra 3's laughable 16 core toy. I have no doubt that the S3's CPU is superior at all.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants/4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
^Just look there, every time Apple makes everyone look like a joke. As much as I dislike Apple's methods and price gouging what I say it true.
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It will become obsolete sometime between Q4 2012 & Q2 2013. Qualcomm are already prepping the S4 QUAD for tablets this year and its performace is roughly x2 the Dual S4, and far exceeds the Exynos 4212+Tegra 3 if I read correctly. Technically the GPU in all Android phones are obsolete or slow in comparison to Apple's latest offerings(Imaginations is like a high-end Nvidia in the mobile-space, Adreno mid, and Tegra mid-high).
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Obsolete (by my definition) doesn't mean that a newer/better product exists. Every device would be a obsolete within a few months if that were the case. To me obsolescence means that it either doesn't perform modern tasks acceptably or a new product feature is so desirable that you simply don't want your old device anymore.
We all know the S3 will handle Jelly Bean beautifully. I'm pretty confident it will be good for Key Lime Pie as well. I got close to 2 years from my OG Epic (Galaxy S1) and only upgraded short of 2 years because I could. With the strong CM/AOKP support this phone has, I'm fully confident I'll have this phone the full 2 years. Unless I break it, heh.
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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Arc s is not too shabby to be honest. Compared to 2012 phones, it obviously doesn't perform as well with noticeably more lag. However it's performance can be boosted to a very large extent if you install a custom rom (either based on stock ICS or MIUI or something else not sure) and to a larger extent with custom kernels. The Arc s compared to 2011 phones is actually pretty good. Regarding the ones you mentioned, it's a lot better than Defy and it's not as fast as S2 and photon because of the number of cores, but in other terms such as Screen quality and camera quality, it's a lot better.
I'm sure threre's more to add
If you want a better phone it's not hard to find but you should be able these days to find an arc s at an affordable price maybe on EBay or something and it's still a good phone but I wouldn't pay much over 300 for one if I was you I would say 250 sounds about right, (250Canadian Dollars).
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samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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I'm usin Arc lt15i(not Arc S),but i'm very pleased with it,Arc S has a better processor and i think you will like this phone,well i'm using GB,gaming,multi-tasking,recording and other stuffs works perfect,no lag at all,ICS on the other hand sucks with most games,recording,multi-tasking but hey you can use custom ROM's,it will run just fine.
Xperia Arc S looks very nice it fits very good on your hand.
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samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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if you do not care about problems of software maintaining and its low level hardware ,arc s is a good choice
samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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I think Arc S is a good choice for new Android users.
Except the gaming experience, it is enough for whatsapp and facebook etc.
I am from India too. I think 17k is lit bit high. Why don't you think about HTC Desire V
arc s is a bad phone, in my country galaxy nexus is only about 50 euro more expensive but it's incomparably better... If I could make my choice again, I'd definitely go for a dual core, 1gb ram phone.
also, build quality is one of the worst I've ever seen. the housing is really squeaky, damn this phone is bad.
progosu said:
also, build quality is one of the worst I've ever seen. the housing is really squeaky, damn this phone is bad.
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Are you sure that you have Xperia Arc S? Sony's phone build quality is the best.
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yulet said:
Are you sure that you have Xperia Arc S? Sony's phone build quality is the best.
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you made my day.
Don't buy this phone! I am the developer, I know what I'm saying! Arc and whole 2011 line is slow, badly-crafted and support from Sony is horrible. Don't buy anything what's not at least dual core and don't even think about Xperia T! It's good phone, but camera is laggy and materials used to produce the device are simply awful! If you want something cheaper - think of Samsung Galaxy SII. If you have some more money to spend, buy HTC One S or Desire X! Those phones have future, not like crap Xperia's.
I will never buy a phone of Sony anymore! Even if it's high-end beast.
This phone is the bad thing that could happen to me..because is a very slow device...only 512 mb ram, but only 350 available, single core, and ~400 mb internal memory, crapy cracks on sensor, low battery life....only good thing is just the sexy look, but hei this should be a smartphone not a girl.....
Overall is my mistake because I buy this, but for sure will be the last Sony phone...and believe me, I'm not a young ..but from a smartphone I want to have at least 1 gb ram and also dual-core processor...maybe Samsung Galaxy S ll...will be my choice, because I don't want a huge phone like S lll...
All the best ...
Why would you even consider purchasing this phone? Budget wouldnt even be reason enough as there are quite a number phones out there, in this price range, which are way better than the arcs. And more importantly, they'd be newer models.
Several months ago it would have been a decent buy. But right now? Why buy a dated phone with terrible specs? Imagine where you'd be in 6 months, or a year. By that time you'd be calling it Grampa Arc S.
It would no longer be worth it anymore. Get something else
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I'm very pleased with my ARC S - In Sweden one of the best phones in its price range. Great camera, with camera button and swift system. It has good battery, 44hours~ with moderate use. But if you tweak it a little it'll last a full day and be a little bit faster. It works great, But it's not an S3, It's good, you don't actually need better. really.
the Sony Xperia GO has same CPU specs, water proof, and is cheaper. Aswell with better ROM etc (lolroot). All games I've tried games work great, subway surfer etc works flawlesly on both phones - using ICS.
(owner of both GO and ARC)
You don't need the best of the best systems for a phone. But if you really feel like it, go for an S3. You can now switch games twice as fast!
When looking for phones, I look for durability, Camera , RAM and internet speed. I personally dont have the need to have 1 million widgets, and 10's of apps open at the same time, I usually just do the same things, then close them.
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Don't buy this phone! I am the developer, I know what I'm saying! Arc and whole 2011 line is slow, badly-crafted and support from Sony is horrible. Don't buy anything what's not at least dual core and don't even think about Xperia T! It's good phone, but camera is laggy and materials used to produce the device are simply awful! If you want something cheaper - think of Samsung Galaxy SII. If you have some more money to spend, buy HTC One S or Desire X! Those phones have future, not like crap Xperia's.
I will never buy a phone of Sony anymore! Even if it's high-end beast.
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Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arc S, infact its the 3rd best phone of 2011, which is why i bought it, it might not be an amazing phone when compared to the current market, but its constantly changing, the Galaxy S2 is out of date now, even if it is / was good. But your opinions just seem anti-sony.
Support from Sony is horrible? In what respect? Sony were the first 3rd party phone developers to deliver ICS to their phones outside of Googles own, they do a pretty good job of adding their own style to the OS with their own apps, and theres not much bloatware.
Granted there are some design floors with Ram and Space on the actual phone, but the whole core thing isn't much of an argument, as the phone was a september 2011 update of the original, they only updated the speed of the processor, but its not like Dual Core phones were on every phone back then, only a handful had them, and they were much more expensive.
Just because a phone is quad core doesnt make it better than a dual core, it's all relative, a lot of people are impressed by the Xperia T, and from what people said months before it was released, its dual core was faster than the Galaxy S3s Quad Core.
The benchmark for smartphones isn't high, you can achieve most of what one person needs with the cheapest of smartphones, its when you get into the realm of chasing the best games and multitasking 50 apps at a time that you need the boost, everything from 2012 on-wards is just constant polish and raising bars that don't need to be raised, to make out that somehow they need more cores n ram, till when? When somehow quad core and 2gb of ram isnt enough, then we have 6 core processors and 8gb of ram in one phone? Where do we draw the line in what is actually needed in a device thats just supposed to connect us to people. I guess Google Project Glass is the answer, as its pointless to keep adding constant power to a device that doesnt need it.
I bought my Xperia Arc S a month ago. I wouldn`t do it again. For less more money (relatively) you can get a Galaxy S2 which is a much more capable device.
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Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arc S, infact its the 3rd best phone of 2011, which is why i bought it, it might not be an amazing phone when compared to the current market, but its constantly changing, the Galaxy S2 is out of date now, even if it is / was good. But your opinions just seem anti-sony.
Support from Sony is horrible? In what respect? Sony were the first 3rd party phone developers to deliver ICS to their phones outside of Googles own, they do a pretty good job of adding their own style to the OS with their own apps, and theres not much bloatware.
Granted there are some design floors with Ram and Space on the actual phone, but the whole core thing isn't much of an argument, as the phone was a september 2011 update of the original, they only updated the speed of the processor, but its not like Dual Core phones were on every phone back then, only a handful had them, and they were much more expensive.
Just because a phone is quad core doesnt make it better than a dual core, it's all relative, a lot of people are impressed by the Xperia T, and from what people said months before it was released, its dual core was faster than the Galaxy S3s Quad Core.
The benchmark for smartphones isn't high, you can achieve most of what one person needs with the cheapest of smartphones, its when you get into the realm of chasing the best games and multitasking 50 apps at a time that you need the boost, everything from 2012 on-wards is just constant polish and raising bars that don't need to be raised, to make out that somehow they need more cores n ram, till when? When somehow quad core and 2gb of ram isnt enough, then we have 6 core processors and 8gb of ram in one phone? Where do we draw the line in what is actually needed in a device thats just supposed to connect us to people. I guess Google Project Glass is the answer, as its pointless to keep adding constant power to a device that doesnt need it.
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Very well said My thoughts exactly. Smartphones are not just about the abundance of cores the phone has. Only a very select few of knobheads care about such novelty. As long as it can perform the tasks you need to do, it is subjectively good.
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I'll buy a phone only if it has 4 ghz hexa-core processor,12 gb of ram,10TB internal storage,5000 mAh battery,7 inches display,adreno 999 graphic driver,and 60 mpx camera....Come on peoples,what the hell is with this insanity "don't buy it if it doesn't have at least dual core and 1gb of ram"? Like someone else said,the basic function of a phone is to use it for talk,not for gaming,photoshop or programming. Can't you see that the phone evolved but the batteries are more and more weaker? Why do you need a quad-core which is last only half a day? For the OP: if you don't want a phone for gaming,but for multimedia,Arc S is a wise choice,if you want it for multitasking and games,get a Galaxy S2 or a Galaxy Nexus. PS: i have a Neo,and i'm planning to upgrade it to Xperia V.
The speed was never an issue but the lack of ram and internal storage totally ruined the arc S experience for me and it's put me off Sony devices. My wife has an Xperia S and it sucks too. Never again.
If it wasn't for the Nexus 4 I'd of bought an Acer S500 next. Unique design, amazing display, pretty much stock ICS, SD slot, removable battery, etc. For about £280. Easily rooted as well apparently.
But I got lucky and bagged a Nexus 4.
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rec71 said:
The speed was never an issue but the lack of ram and internal storage totally ruined the arc S experience for me and it's put me off Sony devices. My wife has an Xperia S and it sucks too. Never again.
If it wasn't for the Nexus 4 I'd of bought an Acer S500 next. Unique design, amazing display, pretty much stock ICS, SD slot, removable battery, etc. For about £280. Easily rooted as well apparently.
But I got lucky and bagged a Nexus 4.
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WRONG! Xperia Arc (S) wasn't a Sony device,it was a Sony Ericsson device
Hello guys,
after the long wait for Jelly bean on my Xperia S ive had enough of that phone. It lags a lot in the Homescreen, its slow very often, the walkman random pauses, its sluggish and the support is as good as dead. So now im Thinking of buying a new phone in mid Juli. So my question is: What phone do you think i should get? Ive got my eye on the Z and the SP. I know SP is only a midrange phone, but I completely love the design of it. The Z is more expensive, but probably the better phone. I like Sony a lot, because of the general design and the UI. I wont even start about the support because,... well you know.. And im begging you, no Samsung suggestions )
Radixtrator said:
Hello guys,
after the long wait for Jelly bean on my Xperia S ive had enough of that phone. It lags a lot in the Homescreen, its slow very often, the walkman random pauses, its sluggish and the support is as good as dead. So now im Thinking of buying a new phone in mid Juli. So my question is: What phone do you think i should get? Ive got my eye on the Z and the SP. I know SP is only a midrange phone, but I completely love the design of it. The Z is more expensive, but probably the better phone. I like Sony a lot, because of the general design and the UI. I wont even start about the support because,... well you know.. And im begging you, no Samsung suggestions )
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might as well go all out and buy the Z. Its flagship status pretty much guarantees it will be first in line for updates (at least for this year, cant say anything bout next year). better specs and great design, plus water(Proof/resistant).
Yeah I thought so.. I just hope Sony fixes everything in Jelly Bean..
noo!! i refer you to uy SP i know Z is better in everything than sp but SP is simple and just like the S u can use it with 1 hand and its battery life is incredible than the Z so i refer you to go with SP
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noo!! i refer you to uy SP i know Z is better in everything than sp but SP is simple and just like the S u can use it with 1 hand and its battery life is incredible than the Z so i refer you to go with SP
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+1 me to the xperia sp is my next phone
If you are going to spend your bucks on Xperia Z range phones, I would suggest you to buy the HTC One...
Don't buy the SP, it's a mid - range non flagship phone - - - - - SO FORGET ABOUT LONG TERM SUPPORT(Look how Sony is treating their last year flagship XS, so SP will suck big time in terms of support from Sony)..
Yeah the xperia S is almost dead to Sony, thats the only thing ( except the the bugs) that i really hate about this phone..
Don't think and just go for Z. It has amazing support from Sony and should even have long term support. I think that it even has good developer support on XDA, No need to say anything about the performance. I can easily run any game or app without a single lag on my XZ. There is enough ram to anything that you want. Around 1-1.2 GB free ram is perfect for all user apps. XZ and SP are not comparable. If money doesn't matter to you, just go for a XZ. Believe me, you won't regret it.
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If you are going to spend your bucks on Xperia Z range phones, I would suggest you to buy the HTC One...
Don't buy the SP, it's a mid - range non flagship phone - - - - - SO FORGET ABOUT LONG TERM SUPPORT(Look how Sony is treating their last year flagship XS, so SP will suck big time in terms of support from Sony)..
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If your gonna shell out the money for a Z why on earth wouldnt you get the HTC One? Its definatly better in my opinion.
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If your gonna shell out the money for a Z why on earth wouldnt you get the HTC One? Its definatly better in my opinion.
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Yeah HTC One is better in my opinion (even though I'm a total Sony fan). It's chipset and display is top-notch. Battery life is also better than Z.
HTC One - over 10 hours of video playback, almost 10 hrs of web browsing and 13 hrs of 3G talk time
Xperia Z - 5 and a half hour of video playback, 6 and a half hour of web browsing, 16 hrs of 3G talk time.
(source: GSMArena's battery tests)
Despite its 4MP Ultrapixel camera...HTC is trying to provide continuous software updates to provide better camera quality and improvements.
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That was one of the bigger dilemmas i was facing HTC one or z.. I just dont really like the ui htc provides and i simply love all the things sony adds to the roms.. The walkman app for instance. It is by far the best music app
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HTC one is a better opinion I think
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I wont even start about the support because,... well you know.. And im begging you, no Samsung suggestions )
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Wait until Sony releases thier next flagship.
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That will take a while i guess...
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bluechelsea said:
Wait until Sony releases thier next flagship.
Sent from my sunken ship xperia s.
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And when that happens the next flagship rumours will start to pop and someone will say: "Wait for next flagship". You can't wait for the best around the corner, because there will always be one"
Yeah, thats what I was thinking.. Lets just hope the JB for Xperia S really fixes everything
Leaving my own personal rants on Sony's software support out of it; i too am in the same boat currently owning an Ion.
As far as the big Android phones for 2013, this is all i've noticed so far...still have plenty of time to figure it out before my upgrade, and i'm hoping i'm happy enough with JB to just wait it out until next year.
Sony Xperia Z/ZL: by far the absolute best physical design i've seen so far in a phone. 5" screen freaked me out at first, but its barely bigger than my Ion, just much more screen. I haven't held a ZL yet, but the Z is pretty incredible if you haven't seen it in person yet. At the same time, its a big 'who knows' on its support. Going by 2012, it'll get one update late summer...then barely ever get mentioned again...Soon after 18 more phones will be available, and Sony will continue having no realistic way of supporting devices they already sold.
HTC One: Good design overall. Most are reporting its very durable, good for me as i love dropping things that are expensive. Not sure about all that layered UI stuff they're up to yet though. Only bad thing for me would be the lack of SD card support.
Samsung Galaxy S4: By far the most popular choice, creating a community of users that rivals Apple, and the support that comes with it. Too bad, though, it looks like a toy. I wouldn't be surprised if the box included a Sesame Street DVD.
for all the above reasons, i'd be very happy just waiting it out and seeing what 2014 brings. maybe sony will turn it around company wise, maybe not. But i still think the Z is too early in this mess for it not to share the EXACT same fate as last years flagship.
jtr165 said:
Leaving my own personal rants on Sony's software support out of it; i too am in the same boat currently owning an Ion.
As far as the big Android phones for 2013, this is all i've noticed so far...still have plenty of time to figure it out before my upgrade, and i'm hoping i'm happy enough with JB to just wait it out until next year.
Sony Xperia Z/ZL: by far the absolute best physical design i've seen so far in a phone. 5" screen freaked me out at first, but its barely bigger than my Ion, just much more screen. I haven't held a ZL yet, but the Z is pretty incredible if you haven't seen it in person yet. At the same time, its a big 'who knows' on its support. Going by 2012, it'll get one update late summer...then barely ever get mentioned again...Soon after 18 more phones will be available, and Sony will continue having no realistic way of supporting devices they already sold.
HTC One: Good design overall. Most are reporting its very durable, good for me as i love dropping things that are expensive. Not sure about all that layered UI stuff they're up to yet though. Only bad thing for me would be the lack of SD card support.
Samsung Galaxy S4: By far the most popular choice, creating a community of users that rivals Apple, and the support that comes with it. Too bad, though, it looks like a toy. I wouldn't be surprised if the box included a Sesame Street DVD.
for all the above reasons, i'd be very happy just waiting it out and seeing what 2014 brings. maybe sony will turn it around company wise, maybe not. But i still think the Z is too early in this mess for it not to share the EXACT same fate as last years flagship.
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Either you live long enough to buy it now,or regret not to buy it later
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Jackmax32 said:
If you are going to spend your bucks on Xperia Z range phones, I would suggest you to buy the HTC One...
Don't buy the SP, it's a mid - range non flagship phone - - - - - SO FORGET ABOUT LONG TERM SUPPORT(Look how Sony is treating their last year flagship XS, so SP will suck big time in terms of support from Sony)..
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Unfortunately, the midranger like XP are getting JB 1st before XS. Not to mention XS got ICS latter than 2011 devices.
The thing is the cost of XZ or HTC ONE is twice the price of XSP.
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Yes, of course those phones cost twice as much as the XS. But lets face it, the XS has horrible support and an extremley buggy ICS.. Why do you guys think the HTC one is so much better? It probably is a bit better, but id really like to know why. Andthe Z is now already available for 500€ which is a lot less than the HTC