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few questions before I root the KFHD8932GB

Hello, I've just bought my gf the 8.9 32gb version and she's not keen on the overlay UI and the lack of stuff on amazons market so she's asked me to root it.
1) If I root it, can I get it back to default state without showing that its previously been rooted? (any insuring later)
2) If you install the Play store, what device does the store think you have in order to install apps/games etc?
3) its just updated itself, am I right in thinking it cannot be rooted from this latest software? is downgrading easy?
4) Will we lose the things that are already on it? (Full wipe)
Thanks

Andyokane said:
Hello, I've just bought my gf the 8.9 32gb version and she's not keen on the overlay UI and the lack of stuff on amazons market so she's asked me to root it.
1) If I root it, can I get it back to default state without showing that its previously been rooted? (any insuring later)
2) If you install the Play store, what device does the store think you have in order to install apps/games etc?
3) its just updated itself, am I right in thinking it cannot be rooted from this latest software? is downgrading easy?
4) Will we lose the things that are already on it? (Full wipe)
Thanks
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There's been no change to update methods, the bin4ry method, option 2 has always worked. If you look @ lizzard30's SteriROM 1.2 thread, you'll end up by-passing the whole rooting process, end up rooted, w/android market & more installed. Just make sure you adb drivers are properly installed: Windows 8 will definitely block installation of unsigned drivers, and Windows 7 a bit too--google search disabling driver signature enforcement for the OS your installing computer uses if it's Windows.
As part of the install process, you'll deregister from amazon. All your programs you've installed will be wiped, so if it ain't part of the of the install package you'd have to reinstall. You can select to wipe your SDCARD, but that isn't necessary. Music and documents should still be there.
If you're going Gi Joe this and root, install busybox, then android market, that's kool. You'll need bin4rys root method to root, get busybox installer from 1mobile market website, enable installation of unknown programs. You want the installer for after rooting--install it, open it, install busybox. Then you'll need kindle fire first aid. Don't use KFFA to root or install busybox. Install busybox, it's required to use KFFA. Use KFFA to install market first, then market apps if you'd like.
Good luck! Oh, if you don't deregister and use SteriROM and go medieval instead, visit application manager and wipe data for kindle reader, amazon vod, and silk. Maybe a few other amazon apps ... otherwise not all your stuff will show up.

I've completed every step and everything went perfect but now i've finished and rebooted im not stuck on the first KindleFire orange logo and it goes no further

Andyokane said:
I've completed every step and everything went perfect but now i've finished and rebooted im not stuck on the first KindleFire orange logo and it goes no further
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SteriROM? Bin4ry? If you need help, pm me, I can send you my email to google chat or something to figure it out. Lemme know

4iiiidnerd said:
SteriROM?
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ive tried the whole process now about 5 times, and it boot loops when I try install Twrp recovery/img any ideas??

Andyokane said:
ive tried the whole process now about 5 times, and it boot loops when I try install Twrp recovery/img any ideas??
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so, you never get past "Fix the red screen"? and are unable to install TWRP. were there any errors when you installed the ADB drivers? error message do not mean everything is working good
It'd be nice if someone else had input on the TWRP install ... which I haven't done yet.
you might want to post on the steriROM thread (check for sim circumstances)
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I looked at Hashcode's thread about twrp installation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128175
notice step 4.5--your Kindle fire would have 8.3.1 on it, you will likely need to download the file and install in fastboot like Hashcode suggests

4iiiidnerd said:
so, you never get past "Fix the red screen"? and are unable to install TWRP. were there any errors when you installed the ADB drivers? error message do not mean everything is working good
It'd be nice if someone else had input on the TWRP install ... which I haven't done yet.
you might want to post on the steriROM thread (check for sim circumstances)
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I looked at Hashcode's thread about twrp installation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128175
notice step 4.5--your Kindle fire would have 8.3.1 on it, you will likely need to download the file and install in fastboot like Hashcode suggests
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Didnt seem to get any errors. Going to try the StariRom method today and see how that does thanks.

KFHD8.9 starirom twrp confusion

Hi guys! I recently swore off tinkering with my Kindle Fire HD 8.9, but just couldn't help myself. I'm not too incompetent...I've rooted the 7 inch Kindle with success and recently unlocked and rooted a Samsung Infuse phone. All that being said, I am bit confused. Here is what I've done:
I rooted the KFHD8.9 using the binary tool. The only problem I ran into was in the window shell portion (when I was supposed to type in /data/local/tmp/onload.sh). I ended up skipping this part. Probably not wise. Anyway, the root was successful and Root Analyzer says it is rooted.
I then successfully installed 8.9Starirom. I have it set up the way I want it now. My goal is to install xbmc apps so I can stream icefilms.
Here is the catch ...
I don't have TWRP installed. I never installed it after rooting. I saw that installing 8.9Starirom would give me an option to install it. It says I would get a red screen if I didn't have it and then I'd have an option to install, thus correcting the red screen. I never got the red screen. I also never get the "blue" Kindle logo when booting. The device loads and I get the option to load with Go Launcher EX, Go Locker, or Kindle.
All is working well. My apps that I had installed all work. New apps I install work. Wifi works.
I'm just not convinced I have everything set up properly. Can someone point me in the right direction as to what I should do at THIS point. Maybe the answer is "nothing", but I want someone more experienced than me to tell me that.
Thanks for any guidance!

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For what it's worth ... I just successfully installed XBMC and Icefilms on this Kindle. Both are working.
Any ideas on my twrp / fastboot issue?

[Q] Kindle fire 2nd gen update 10.4.1 re-rooted

Hello I rooted my kindle fire 2nd edition when it was version 10.3.1. Everything was working fine then I turned it on one day and the root I installed stopped working. I looked at the version number and it had changed to 10.4.1. I re-rooted it with the same tools I used the first time. It worked fine for a few minutes then I started getting the message pop ups [the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped] then [es taskmanager has stopped]. When I go to the google apps it starts the same pop ups again [google play services has stopped]. Everything seems to work ok. I tried to reinstall the google apps and framework and vending pak. Nothing will get rid of the pop ups. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Same thing happened to me, sort of. I found superuser failed to grant permissions after re-rooting. Uninstalled superuser and installed superSU and everything reset a right after a reboot.
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Red Cross154 said:
Same thing happened to me, sort of. I found superuser failed to grant permissions after re-rooting. Uninstalled superuser and installed superSU and everything reset a right after a reboot.
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My superuser and all the apps worked fine until I red screened it. I tried to put twrp on it using this thread [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963]. I have a red screen now. I am working on a fastboot cable to restore my original image. I read in another post after I red screened mine that Amazon tried to close the hole to prevent rooting. They almost have. I now have it back to version 10.2.3 using KFU. I also used it to re root it. I tried installing TWRP again using the same thread and boot looped it. I used the Kindle fire system image utility to un loop. I am now back to a rooted kf2 researching another way to install twrp.

I could swear I had the setting set to off with respect to automatic firmware updates, but either way my previously rooted Kindle 2nd generation did get the newest firmware. What is cool in my case, at least so far, is the Google play store still works perfectly fine, I can still order whatever I want from it. Also my ADW launcher still works fine, I can still switch in between the normal carousel Kindle stock interface or go over to an Android type of setting using ADW. Not sure about wallpapers but I don't really care as all I really wanted when I rooted was to be able to install the Google play store and be able to use whatever I wanted to use and I can still do that. I no longer have root though, Kindle free opens and tells me the kindle is improperly rooted and root checker tells me I am not rooted. Is there an easy way to reroot this or should I just leave well enough alone? I am afraid the next firmware update will finish the job on me and I have no way to stop that now (not that it worked the first time I set it to not update lol)

Reinstalled Twrp
I tried the thread [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963] for installing TWRP again and it worked perfectly. I now have twrp running. Next I will try to flash cm10.1 and gapps. Wish me luck. :good: I would like to thank Hashcode and all the other developers for the step-by-step instructions. I am now running CM10.1 and it works great.

[Q] Kindle hd 8.9 stuck in slow mode after failed re root

My kindle hd 8.9 was re rooted using bin4ry v31 after the last ota update 8.4.8. It worked fine. Now there was another ota update to 8.4.9 on 6/14/14. I tried using the same method as before. ADB is enabled in my kindle, I am seeing Android Composite ADB interface. when I plug the kindle in. I got through part of the re root, where it rebooted, and now it is extremely slow, has a black screen with white cracked lines to slide in open, and although some things work they are very very slow. Please can someone either help me re root or unroot it so that the kindle runs normally. I don't know what mode that slow one is, but you can't do much of anything. I tried to roo a few times, and tried to put in the stock kindle update and re run it, but nothing is working to get it out of the slow mode. Right now my computer can see and put things onto the kindle, and when trying to root, it seems like it is trying to work, but since the kindle is slow, I don't know if it is getting stuck and not finishing.
Can you help me figure out what is wrong?

benee16 said:
My kindle hd 8.9 was re rooted using bin4ry v31 after the last ota update 8.4.8. It worked fine. Now there was another ota update to 8.4.9 on 6/14/14. I tried using the same method as before. ADB is enabled in my kindle, I am seeing Android Composite ADB interface. when I plug the kindle in. I got through part of the re root, where it rebooted, and now it is extremely slow, has a black screen with white cracked lines to slide in open, and although some things work they are very very slow. Please can someone either help me re root or unroot it so that the kindle runs normally. I don't know what mode that slow one is, but you can't do much of anything. I tried to roo a few times, and tried to put in the stock kindle update and re run it, but nothing is working to get it out of the slow mode. Right now my computer can see and put things onto the kindle, and when trying to root, it seems like it is trying to work, but since the kindle is slow, I don't know if it is getting stuck and not finishing.
Can you help me figure out what is wrong?
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Yep sucks for us for now it seems
Mine is in the same state. To unslow mo it all i found that works is using recovery mode to erase every single thing on it. This will speed it back up to normal. Beyond that i don't have a clue what to do.
You can enter recovery mode if you dont know how by pressing volume down and power. Or dl droid explorer run it click the multi colored shield icon and reboot to recovery.
I would hold off for now though. As one of these guys may have a way to save you all the head aches i have now. I had psp emulator playstation emu nintendo ds dolphin aka game cube and wii all running properly now all gone. go figure. Pain in the rear to get em all running properly. Oh worst bit loosing my crisis core newgame + save lvl 35+ with all items etc etc. Was gona put the hurt on every thing LOL
Oh and if theres any amazon employees lurking and reading great job on becoming a apple clone wanabe In other words amazon you all need to get a grip. People want to customize their tablets and have something that runs like mad with out regards to warranty. We want our tablets the way we want them not the way you want them. No one likes apple with their forced updaties etc

benee16 said:
My kindle hd 8.9 was re rooted using bin4ry v31 after the last ota update 8.4.8. It worked fine. Now there was another ota update to 8.4.9 on 6/14/14. I tried using the same method as before. ADB is enabled in my kindle, I am seeing Android Composite ADB interface. when I plug the kindle in. I got through part of the re root, where it rebooted, and now it is extremely slow, has a black screen with white cracked lines to slide in open, and although some things work they are very very slow. Please can someone either help me re root or unroot it so that the kindle runs normally. I don't know what mode that slow one is, but you can't do much of anything. I tried to roo a few times, and tried to put in the stock kindle update and re run it, but nothing is working to get it out of the slow mode. Right now my computer can see and put things onto the kindle, and when trying to root, it seems like it is trying to work, but since the kindle is slow, I don't know if it is getting stuck and not finishing.
Can you help me figure out what is wrong?
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Factory reset is always better than flashing and other serious tinkering. kindle hd 8.9 is still rootable with 8.4.9 update, I did it and another member KatanAlive have done it.

What method did you use to root? There are a few different methods. used bin4ry v31 I used the old special option, then also tried the old option.

akb1ajay said:
Factory reset is always better than flashing and other serious tinkering. kindle hd 8.9 is still rootable with 8.4.9 update, I did it and another member KatanAlive have done it.
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Ive tried various tools etc. While it seems i am able to get root i can not for example view the root directory in adb shell. I can kill any process under ps list even ones ran by root. Again the root directory shows as empty under ls. Running the superuser app that does show under apps seems t do nothing (im assuming this is because root is already active by this point) It does load but nothing in log window. Also it remains stuck running extremely slow. I can not install google frame work etc.
What i want to do is just go with a custom rom and be done with this mess. After all if amazon managed to force updates on kindles with ota disabled and blocked once they will likely be able to do so again. So theres zero point in staying on a stock rom even downgraded and or rooted.
Now the only problem there is it seems rom update requires fastboot? If this is not the case what are the steps to go about it by a different means? Or what methods other than fastboot cables are there to force it in to fastboot with out ripping in to the kindlefire hd 8.9 in my case?

benee16 said:
What method did you use to root? There are a few different methods. used bin4ry v31 I used the old special option, then also tried the old option.
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I used manual method described in this thread and yesterday another member also used this same method to root the Kindle with update 8.4.9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117
I have been extensively reading this forum for rooting Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and I have seen people failed just because of a simple mistake or not starting afresh. Many people were able to overcome their anomalous problem just by a factory reset and then starting again the process of rooting.
No one knows at which step problem started to appear until you clarify completely that what method you were following, or did you install some other drivers mentioned in another method, or did you interrupted the progress, or any other tinkering you had had done earlier with Kindle.
Every method pre assumes that your device is in default condition and your PC has favourable environment for the completion of the rooting process. Like a meber was following the process of rooting and when a stage came to enter his Amazon password, he entered the password but the process could not be continued, because his Kindle was not registered , so even after entering the correct password the process was aborted. Later he registered his Kindle and started agin and it was rooted.

So true what you've said about it not being a fresh root. I am going to try a few more times to root, then do a factory reset. My kindle could use a fresh start, but I thought I'd try just for future knowledge. If anyone else comes back from the slow kindle stage, please contribute what you've done to fix it because it may help someone else resolve their issues.

I decided to do a full restore. Then I was able to use a bin4ry script for kindles to root. Now I am having difficulty getting google play to work again. I keep getting an error not enough space on the partition \system. Free up 6MB in system and try again. I put a version of google market on to see if there would be a difference. I was able to open it, but nothing will download. Anyone else have any experience with this problem?

benee16 said:
I decided to do a full restore. Then I was able to use a bin4ry script for kindles to root. Now I am having difficulty getting google play to work again. I keep getting an error not enough space on the partition \system. Free up 6MB in system and try again. I put a version of google market on to see if there would be a difference. I was able to open it, but nothing will download. Anyone else have any experience with this problem?
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If you have rooted Kindle "not enough space" problem can be easily resolved. Is your Kindle rooted?

Yes my kindle fire hd 8.9 is rooted. I currently have version 8.4.9 software from amazon.

benee16 said:
Yes my kindle fire hd 8.9 is rooted. I currently have version 8.4.9 software from amazon.
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I too have had this low space problem after updating to 8.4.9. I was despaired but after searching the internet for 2/3 hours I found the solution. First thing you need to do is to get Titanium Backup from somewhere. It has the capacity to convert system app to user app and this will free up some ROM space so you can install Google Play afterward. Convert one by one some system apps that are not critical to Kindle's functioning, to user app. For example, you can convert Silk browser, Amazon Video, Amazon music, Kindle tutorial, Office Suite to user app. The moment you have above 20 MB free space in ROM you can install there Google Play. I am not sure if a free version of Titanium Backup have this functionality or not, I have installed a pro version of it. If free version is of no use then get a pro version from somewhere. I think you know where to get it from. Good Luck.

Wow thanks so much for the info. I did not have the pro version of titanium. Instead I used /system /app mover which is a free app. I changed a few system files to user files like suggested and am now able to use google play. I made sure I could download apps from it also, and it worked just fine. Now I have to re download apps I lost when I had to restore.

benee16 said:
Wow thanks so much for the info. I did not have the pro version of titanium. Instead I used /system /app mover which is a free app. I changed a few system files to user files like suggested and am now able to use google play. I made sure I could download apps from it also, and it worked just fine. Now I have to re download apps I lost when I had to restore.
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Can't launch SuperSU on Amazon Fire Tv

Hey, just wondering if anyone can help, for the past week I've been trying to fix a problem with my Fire tv and have tried various methods to fix this issue. Basically I use Sloane 5.0.5 r4 ROM on my aftv 2, it comes with super su and the root does work as superuser requests pop up to allow or deny. However super su doesn't appear in apps (the GUI management tool) when installed (tried various versions of supersu from 2.4 to 2.7) and I try to launch it, it just takes me back to the home screen. From googling I can see a few others have a similar problem, some people suggesting kingroot(not keen to use that as it doesn't give me the same options as super su) some suggesting rbox will make an update to sort the problem. Although not something I know is definite. The super su works and it's binaries as suggested earlier but the gui tool is nowhere to be seen. Even tried changing sloanes rom and replacing it with another supersu version but this hasn't worked. Just to add more details im running TWRP recovery also!
Thanks.

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Hey, just wondering if anyone can help, for the past week I've been trying to fix a problem with my Fire tv and have tried various methods to fix this issue. Basically I use Sloane 5.0.5 r4 ROM on my aftv 2, it comes with super su and the root does work as superuser requests pop up to allow or deny. However super su doesn't appear in apps (the GUI management tool) when installed (tried various versions of supersu from 2.4 to 2.7) and I try to launch it, it just takes me back to the home screen. From googling I can see a few others have a similar problem, some people suggesting kingroot(not keen to use that as it doesn't give me the same options as super su) some suggesting rbox will make an update to sort the problem. Although not something I know is definite. The super su works and it's binaries as suggested earlier but the gui tool is nowhere to be seen. Even tried changing sloanes rom and replacing it with another supersu version but this hasn't worked. Just to add more details im running TWRP recovery also!
Thanks.
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It's something Amazon does to Android and SuperSU being a system app. I noticed the same problem with the Play Store. You might be able to launch it while in an alternative launcher and/or using adb shell.

Run a adb shell and fire up this one
pm path eu.chainfire.supersu
Just to check the installation path

Hey rbox! Many thanks for your reply, and well done on your effort with this rom, can't fault it except for this minor issue. Been tearing my hair out trying to figure out exactly why it all looks fine and well but won't launch. I was thinking of trying to install play store using xposed, was looking at a guide online and wondered if it would open through play store. Didn't realise I could use another launcher with your rom though. Do you know if there's others you know that understands amazon devices to come up with a fix, update etc? seems like you're the only one to make a rom so far for the aftv so I'm guessing it'll take time until everyone fully understands amazon devices and apply similar Android based roms. Thanks for your advice.
Here's what the path came back as, I did notice there's two different locations for supersu though.

correct me if i'm wrong but as far as i know the supersu (the one that you just found) is the su binary but the GUI (which is responsible for the grant notification) is here: /system/app/Superuser.apk
I'm not 100% sure about it, so maybe someone could light up the dark

once sloane-5.0.5-rooted_r4 is flasheed can we update SU from play store?

Sure but you don't have to. Just take that one http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
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Cool thks but i purchased the pro and thought i could update without breaking anything on the fire

ok i updateed to pro since it was allready purchased, all went well but dont know what it does more since i cant open the app loll, but it works, thats what counts

Habs69M said:
ok i updateed to pro since it was allready purchased, all went well but dont know what it does more since i cant open the app loll, but it works, thats what counts
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My experience is with Firestick.
1) On main Amazon screen, go to the App line and look accros there.
2) Connect Wukong Remote https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wukongtv.wkremote.client.en and you'll see the Apps selection at bottom.
I like to go into Supersu settings and the default to "Grant" and I like to turn off notifications.

king200 said:
My experience is with Firestick.
1) On main Amazon screen, go to the App line and look accros there.
2) Connect Wukong Remote https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wukongtv.wkremote.client.en and you'll see the Apps selection at bottom.
I like to go into Supersu settings and the default to "Grant" and I like to turn off notifications.
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thks cool app but i still cant open super su , dont know after reading some that you even can

Arghhhh. Think I've soft bricked my fire tv or worse! I was re flashing the rom and was cleaning the data before hand, I must of wiped the system and now I'm only seeing the amazon white logo when i turn it on... Tried to install recovery again since I can't even get into recovery but when going through preloader it eventually says error can't find target file. Tried to use fast boot but fire tv isn't connecting to try and install recovery etc that way! You guys got any ideas or have I totally broken the device? ???

Keep calm buddy, als long as the preloader is still working everything is possible. Did you try to Flash TWRP again?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/firetv-2-unbrick-image-t3313349

Thank you so much! It saved the day! never will i ever be such a n00b and delete the entire system again. Also big thankyou RBOX for your guide and files to unbrick, they worked a dream. Everything is installed now, hopefully in near future someone manages to get SuperSu opening in the GUI lol im just happy I can actually use my fire tv again though!