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Could anyone provide series of photos taken by HTP2? I'd like to compare them with other devices.
More people would be welcome so we can compare even pro2 between themselfs. I've already met one pro2 with blurred and shaded camera. I just dont want to believe all those cameras are so bad.
It would be nice if you took photo in different conditions. Like outside, in the dark, of the text, of the colorful scene, inside the building with poor light conditions etc etc.
Thanks you all.

here is what i have taken
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thank you for your post. Colors are so dull. I tried to increase contrast and it looks bit nicer. Anyway I think pro2 would deserve better camera.
Could anyone else share his opinions about the camera?

I'm a bit disappointed about the camera, I've a Kaiser and the pictures are clearly better than these!...
I cannot belive it!

pepeto2001 said:
I'm a bit disappointed about the camera, I've a Kaiser and the pictures are clearly better than these!...
I cannot belive it!
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You can actually make the Kaiser camera ten times better by simply taking off the back cover when taking pictures or video. For some reason the plastic on the camera cover is dingy and blurs it a little.
Some people have actually removed that one plastic piece from the cover or just drilled a tiny hole, personally I couldn't do that.

bwnotredame06 said:
You can actually make the Kaiser camera ten times better by simply taking off the back cover when taking pictures or video. For some reason the plastic on the camera cover is dingy and blurs it a little.
Some people have actually removed that one plastic piece from the cover or just drilled a tiny hole, personally I couldn't do that.
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I know, I usually quit the cover... and the quality is MUCH better than the ones taken with pro2.... I hope another samples with other configurations will be better, I wont buy a new phone with worse camera than the one I have!!

pepeto2001 said:
I know, I usually quit the cover... and the quality is MUCH better than the ones taken with pro2.... I hope another samples with other configurations will be better, I wont buy a new phone with worse camera than the one I have!!
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Well maybe its just the same issue, the backing cover lens. Its supposed to be a 3.2 mega pix.

mistm said:
thank you for your post. Colors are so dull. I tried to increase contrast and it looks bit nicer. Anyway I think pro2 would deserve better camera.
Could anyone else share his opinions about the camera?
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just an FYI all, i didnt adjust anything. not even sure my pics are set to fine quality. I will check the settings and report back
EDIT: *** ok yup, had all the default settings with no adjustment to any of the lighting

I didnt change the settings in device. I changed contrast in Irfan view just to see if images may look better.
Lets admin that camera sux lot in HTP2. I just want to insure myself that the better result may be achieved by the software changes (like change of contrast for example).
On almost all photos i've seen there is some kind of gray curtain. Because I want to use camera in my next device I was thinking about it and i decided that its enough for me that photos looks good in the device when showing to friends. I dont need extra quality as compact camera could provide.

I was wondering what the video recording capability is on this phone. I'm told it's capable to record in 640*480 resolution these days. Is it any good (crisp / fluid) or choppy and.. well.. reasonably useless like the recordings my P4350 takes (taken into account that that phone records into the size of a poststamp)?
Bottom line: will I be using the feature to take my holland's funniest video and win 10 eurocents?

R_phAn - I can tell you in advance that this phone can't record fluid 640*480 video!
This is a result of a myriad of excuses:
- Drivers blah blah
- Hardware camera Interface to phone blah blah
- Processor blah blah
I've determined All this without even testing out the camera functionality myself... Imagine that!
And people get excited about this phone that uses even more dated processing hardware than the TP1?? (7200a)
LOL!

mallman said:
here is what i have taken
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OMG OMG, where'd you get the Voltron figure !!! I want one !!!

Here is one in very poor light. For better results try to lower the sharpness to +2.

R_phAn said:
I was wondering what the video recording capability is on this phone. I'm told it's capable to record in 640*480 resolution these days. Is it any good (crisp / fluid) or choppy and.. well.. reasonably useless like the recordings my P4350 takes (taken into account that that phone records into the size of a poststamp)?
Bottom line: will I be using the feature to take my holland's funniest video and win 10 eurocents?
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Here you can check out this sample video (from pocketnow's review)... Looks pretty good to me (and yes, it's in 640x480 )... It's not some fast moving test or something, but in general the video looks good...

orbitalen said:
Here you can check out this sample video (from pocketnow's review)... Looks pretty good to me (and yes, it's in 640x480 )... It's not some fast moving test or something, but in general the video looks good...
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Question - Why does the N95 with roughly 2.5 year old hardware record better video than this newly released TP2 phone?
And we as consumers just accept this without questioning this - LOL!

qazzi76 said:
Question - Why does the N95 with roughly 2.5 year old hardware record better video than this newly released TP2 phone?
And we as consumers just accept this without questioning this - LOL!
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I'm thinking same as you!.... how can a device 3 year old have a MUCH BETTER camera????
Is this a joke????????

pepeto2001 said:
I'm thinking same as you!.... how can a device 3 year old have a MUCH BETTER camera????
Is this a joke????????
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Tell me about it!
Admittedly this is the same across the board for all commercially available WM 6 series devices at the moment but it still stinks.
I am hoping this will change when Snapdragon processors are released as this is said to have at least 720p 30fps playback and record capabilities.

How is the screen, like when you Shake the Xperia X1 during taking a picture the screen won't lag.
A.t.m. on dutty's rom, he has done the same. when shaking the phone while in camera, the camera screen does not lag or get any delay.
Is this also the same on Touch Pro 2?
I'm considering getting a TP2 and sell my Touch HD.

bogypop said:
Here is one in very poor light. For better results try to lower the sharpness to +2.
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Did the phone put the time stamp on it ? is able to be turned off ?

If you want a qwerty slider phone that is this slim then you have to accept that you cannot get a video camera into it
Phone is always a compromise between size and features and functions. Think about the size (the thinness of the slider part) and then compare it to the phones you say have good camera. They're a lot thicker.
Someday the technology will go further but this is what we have now.

Can someone show a GS2/Nexus screen comparison?

I currently own a GS2 on AT&T (iPhone 4 on Verizon) and love it, I may buy a Nexus down the road when they are more readily available and not....800 effin dollars.
Anyway, I've seen a couple comparisons of a Super AMOLED Plus vs Super AMOLED HD screens, but they are done so close it almost seems silly to use as a comparison. I'm sure the higher resolution would help if I had my nose pressed to the screen, I just wanted to get an idea of what both screens look like close up, but not THAT close. Despite the lower resolution, the GS2 looks pretty sharp to my eye, not quite as clean as the iPhone 4, but still sharp.
If you have both phones (Nexus+GS2), can you sit them side by side and just take a few shots of the same text, icons, images. Close enough to see detail, but not right up to the screen since that's not how anyone looks at a phone.
Thanks

Point me to an image and I will do it.

Sweet thanks. I didn't have an image in mind really. Just maybe take a pic of this forums main page on both, a Gmail home screen icon with text...you know something with a smaller image like an icon and some text, or maybe a browser screen window with similar text at the same default zoom of each.
Is that making sense?
I'm not really concerned with color accuracy, more so with text and icon sharpness.

lol where are you getting the $800 price tag?? The phone is expected to launch at either $530, like the other Nexus phones, or $600.

hotleadsingerguy said:
lol where are you getting the $800 price tag?? The phone is expected to launch at either $530, like the other Nexus phones, or $600.
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I know, I said I would get when down the road when they are the price you mentioned. If I import one now, it would cost close to 800 I believe...

ferris2375 said:
I currently own a GS2 on AT&T (iPhone 4 on Verizon) and love it, I may buy a Nexus down the road when they are more readily available and not....800 effin dollars.
Anyway, I've seen a couple comparisons of a Super AMOLED Plus vs Super AMOLED HD screens, but they are done so close it almost seems silly to use as a comparison. I'm sure the higher resolution would help if I had my nose pressed to the screen, I just wanted to get an idea of what both screens look like close up, but not THAT close. Despite the lower resolution, the GS2 looks pretty sharp to my eye, not quite as clean as the iPhone 4, but still sharp.
If you have both phones (Nexus+GS2), can you sit them side by side and just take a few shots of the same text, icons, images. Close enough to see detail, but not right up to the screen since that's not how anyone looks at a phone.
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Here you go, sorry for the delay. And please ignore the crappy camera did the best I could.
Galaxy Nexus on the left, SGS2 on the right.
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Galaxy Nexus Launcher and icons
SGS2 Launcher and Icons
Settings Screen

Those photos make the S11 look better than the nexus!
I think you need to get closer to the screen to do it justice.
you can see the green tint of super amoled on the nexus.
The truth is the screen is far superior on the nexus

Spinstorm said:
Those photos make the S11 look better than the nexus!
I think you need to get closer to the screen to do it justice.
you can see the green tint of super amoled on the nexus.
The truth is the screen is far superior on the nexus
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Are we looking at the same pictures!? I think the Nexus looks a lot better.

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jms.flynn said:
Here you go, sorry for the delay. And please ignore the crappy camera did the best I could.
Galaxy Nexus on the left, SGS2 on the right.
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Galaxy Nexus Launcher and icons
SGS2 Launcher and Icons
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Excellent, thanks for posting those. The difference is about what I thought it would be, sharper than the GS2, still not sure it's as "clean" as the iPhone 4, but I do notice a step up in clarity. Not sure it's night and day, I imagine if the GS2 wasn't a plus the difference would be even more pronounced. Still a nice display, now I just need to find one of these close to retail price eventually. The browser at default zoom is noticeable, probably due to the larger screen size combined with a higher resolution.
Still a big fan of the GS2, I really can't pick a favorite between the two, each have strengths, ICS being a huge one for the Nexus. Samsung really has 2 amazing phones out right now. Now to find a Nexus that doesn't come close to being what I pay on my mortgage. :-/

I was sitting with a friend today who as a SII, he set his screen to max brightness and his wallpaper to microbes. I set my phone to the same settings, and it was obvious that the resolution helps as I saw more detail (smaller microbes and more of them) but the colours are better on the SII - more vibrant. most people know this anyway. It is only obvious if you hold them next to each other, every other time I use my phone the colours are fantastic!

qazax said:
I was sitting with a friend today who as a SII, he set his screen to max brightness and his wallpaper to microbes. I set my phone to the same settings, and it was obvious that the resolution helps as I saw more detail (smaller microbes and more of them) but the colours are better on the SII - more vibrant. most people know this anyway. It is only obvious if you hold them next to each other, every other time I use my phone the colours are fantastic!
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I read that Google purposely calibrated the screen to make the colours look less saturated and more accurately realistic. So are you sure that the reason the SGII looks more vibrant is not that the SGII colours are more saturated?

Side-by-side comparison of iPhone 4s / Galaxy Nexus pictures (can you tell the differ

I was tired of hearing all the threads regarding how poor the quality of pictures are when taken with a Galaxy Nexus. I was also tired of the constant arguments about how the lighting wasn’t set correctly, or how I should be using a tripod, or how etc, etc, etc… Face it, if I was going to go through any of those motions to take a picture, I wouldn’t be reaching for my cell phone
So in the spirit of this, I took pictures of three simple items I had laying around my desk with both an iPhone 4s and a (CDMA) Galaxy Nexus. Both phones were set to complete auto and taken within seconds of each other to ensure identical lighting conditions. Once the pictures were taken, they were immediately downloaded. No further editing on either camera beforehand was performed.
The results:
Test #1 – “Moosejaw”
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Hard to spot any differences. Sure, when zoomed in you can see the differences based on pixel density, but at 30,000 feet… it’s all the same to me.
Test #2 – “Ehpple”
Now we’re starting to see some slight differences. However, it wasn’t what I expected. To me (and I’m no expert), the top picture has a brighter feel to it, but also seems a bit washed out. The bottom picture, while a little darker, seems to be slightly sharper and more in focus.
Test #3 – “Hometown Pride”
This is an interesting comparison. My initial reaction was: “Woah, check out the first picture… the color is WAAAY off. The second picture is much more accurate!” However, if I hold the actual pop can up to the computer monitor and compare which picture is more accurate, the top picture’s color is spot-on while the bottom picture has a deeper “red” to it compared to the can in real life. BTW, I have passed all my tests for color blindness… really!
To me, the bottom picture looks more appealing… but the top picture is more accurate. Crazy!
In conclusion, I don’t see enough of a difference to warrant all the hate towards the Galaxy Nexus and it’s camera. One camera appears to make more "appealing" pictures while the other seems to better capture the "raw" aspect of the image.
If I want to capture a “moment”, the Nexus camera will work just fine for me. If I need to capture an “image”, I’ll leave both phones on the table and grab the Rebel instead. If I need to be acknowledged by anyone waiting for the 5:30PM ferry from the city back to Larkspur, I'll grab the...
P.S. I did not identify which pictures were from the iPhone and which were from the GN on purpose. This was done to avoid a placebo effect for either phone. However, if you really want to know, check the file names and reverse engineer it from there.

Great comparison. But which picture is from which phone? lol
Edit: Ok I read your last comment. Im having a hard time figureing that out with Jake and Andy.

top = GN
bottom = iPhone

Haha yeah, Jake has to be code for the iPhone though (Jake the Snake).
And Andy? obviously for Android...
=P

Did you get those Nexus pics on the first snap? How many did it take with each to get them?

The camera on the Galaxy Nexus is perfectly capable of taking great pictures and in my opinion it always does but I think what makes people write the camera off is the colour reproduction. The iPhone 4S and Galaxy SII seem to take pictures with colours that just 'pop' whereas the colours on the Nexus are duller and washed out. The vibrant pictures from an iPhone 4S or a Galaxy SII may look better visually but as mentioned by the OP, the colours are not accurate whereas pictures from the Nexus aren't very vibrant but they are accurate in terms of colour.
So people just want a camera that produces pictures that makes objects look better than they're supposed to! But you can easily use the photo editing features on the Galaxy Nexus to make the pictures similar to an iPhone 4S or Galaxy SII or maybe Google could release an update that makes photos seem more vibrant and saturated.

Faygo "rock and rye" ftw. Now I gotta go to the store because you got me craving some.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Top one looks better on the first two and the bottom looks better on the third. I'd say it's a wash.

For those who want to get the most out of their camera it would be a good idea to make pictures made in artificial lighting (like flash) with the white balance set manually. Experiment and find which setting gives you the most realistic result.
The "mood differences" in the pictures posted by the OP are mostly because the cameras chose different white balancing modes.
Auto-white balance (AWB) is wrong often, especially in artificial lightning, even in DSLRs.

Top picture was actually the iPhone in the first two pictures, and then i switched them around for the last picture.
I like the theory on the naming convention, much more exciting than the fact that i'm Andy, and my coworker (with the iPhone) is named Jake.
I totally agree with the white balancing issue, but i tried to make this a 'lowest common denominator' style of test, i.e. everything set to auto. I guess it's fair to say that the iPhone did a better job of light balancing... this one time, under these specific conditions.
Im glad someone else got the Faygo reference. However, now that i'm not in the office, it's time for a niceSanders chocolate stout from the Detroit Brewing Company for me.

Aridon said:
Did you get those Nexus pics on the first snap? How many did it take with each to get them?
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First snap for all pictures with both phones.

The iPhone 4S camera looks amazing even in dim light!
Thanks for the comparison

Nice post, OP. I think you should have taken pics in different settings though because I think the SGN does considerably better at taking close-up shots than scenery/landscape shots or lower light indoor shots (with and without flash) You should do the same thing in those conditions to see the differences. I have the SGN and plan on getting the wife a 4S sometime soon (her OG Droid is barely working for her nowadays). So I planned on doing these types of comparisons when she got her phone too .

I'm sorry to say but I'm not seeing the major difference between these shots. Why are people saying this camera is so much crap when evidence like this shows otherwise? Maybe these indoor shots play to the GN's strength, but from the outdoor shots I've seen they're all marginally close.
Sure the iphone4/S & SGS2 may be better in every regard, but surely not enough for all the crying we're seeing on here?

vapotrini said:
...Why are people saying this camera is so much crap when evidence like this shows otherwise?
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Exactly my point.
Imagine comparing the two phones as automobiles (sorry, I live and work in Detroit... it's a habit).
The iPhone is the Ford Focus and Galaxy Nexus is the Chevy Cruz. One might be slightly faster in a straight line while the other would get better fuel economy, but the differences are so subtle that 99% of the users won't notice them. They are both cars (cameras) for the masses.
Lately, it seems like one camera is being called the Ferrari F430 and comparing it to a 1983 4-cylinder 4x4 Ford Ranger (I drove one all through college, trust me; it's a right ****ty vehicle!)

Can you do a side by side testing the flash on both cameras? My GN seems to take pictures with a yellowish tint. Its mostly noticeable on Asian people's skin which turns out looking sickeningly yellow.

I bought my wife the 4S when it came out and I got the Nexus when it came out (from my droidX)...I agree its not that big of a difference..mostly just more natural colors that can be spruced up if thats your thing.

Bottom picyure looks better in all 3 cases. Nice to see the GN can hold its own in the camera stakes. Another 'negative' ticked off my list of reasons not to get one in a couple of weeks

once I get 8 posts it will let me post photobucket photos from my nexus and that should change a lot of minds as well....must make 8 useless posts...2 down ;-)

[Q] Weird camera pictures. Should I exchange my phone?

I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
imgur.com/caiBu
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
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I got same problem

Vignetting, digital noise, and the laws of physics
randomlightspeed said:
I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
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Lulz. Welcome to the world of photography. You have discovered two things that have been discussed in photography for well over a century vignetting and noise/grain.
I have a $300 NONZOOM lens that if used on a $3000 camera will show vignetting if you shoot it wide open (f/1.4). Not sure why anyone would think the tiny lens on a mass produced phone handed out for free would be immune to that.
A guy bought a DSLR for $6,000 new and put a $1,500 lens on it. This is what he found...
randomlightspeed said:
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
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The Lumia 900 is an awesome phone but it has to obey the laws of physics. You can't cram eight megapixels into a space the fraction of the size of a fingernail and expect to get noise free images. That's why miniaturization and the megapixel race are an anathema to good photography. I'll put it to you this way one of the greatest photographers ever prefered to shoot his work with an 8x10 camera. That's right a camera with film that measured 8x10 per a frame. Now you are shooting in terrible lighting conditions with a sensor that is a fraction of the size of your fingernail. My question is what did you expect?
Here's a little primer on sensor sizes...
For professional photography Canon APS-C is really the minimum. Sigma Fovean can be used but it is a very unique technology. Four thirds cameras take some decent pictures as well but that is about the limit. FYI see that tiny green box on the left? The sensor you are critiquing is a fraction of the size of that. Also when I really want to take I nice shot I use a medium format FILM camera. It's negative is even bigger than the medium format sensor on that chart.
Arizona Highways is considered to be at the pinnacle of photographic magazines. It usually only uses images taken with FILM cameras like this...
So bottom line is that vignetting and digital noise are present to some degree in EVERY camera phone. Are they at an unacceptable level in your particular unit? I don't know. I would have to know a lot more about your testing methodology and see similar sample pics taken under the exact same conditions by a variety of phones. Your phone may be defective or you may just be one of those special people that really pays attention to the quality of photographs. Some people for whatever reason are just really tuned in to what looks good and what looks bad. I love showing people like that my pictures. They can actually appreciate them or at least tell me what looks bad.
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Yeah so do people with three thousand dollar cameras. It's all a matter of degree.

Unfortunately, the camera on this phone sucks. I have one and it takes horrible pictures 90% of the time. 10% of the time you will be amazed at how great the pictures look, the rest of the time you will be disappointed.
Not sure how how Nokia screwed it up this bad.
randomlightspeed said:
I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
imgur.com/caiBu
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
imgur.com/bnp0F
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randomlightspeed said:
I recently discovered this on a white lumia 900 and wonder if this is normal or if I need to get my phone exchanged.
The camera always gives a slightly discolored halo in the middle of a picture taken without a flash. I took a picture of a blank white wall and the effect can be seen clearly in the piture. (I adjusted the brightness a bit) (since i cant post links)
imgur.com/caiBu
Also, it doesn't take really good pictures in the dark. One weird thing that I saw is in this picture below. I took a picture with the phone in complete darkness and then opened the picture on the phone. The screen looks black but then when you pinch-to-zoom and increase the picture size, all sorts of weird dots and stuff appear and also can be seen if you auto-correct the final image using any picture software. I clicked the picture of the phone screen in a dark room.
imgur.com/bnp0F
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Let me see if I can give a simple explanation..
For your halo effect or as you can see its yellowish in the middle a been a noted problem in the lumia phone ( Samsung SGS2 forums are filled with similar problems what they call as the pink spot).
Apparently the phone might have a problem of adjusting the white balance and hence giving the yellowish tint.
Solution : I would try and see if you can manually adjust the white balance on the camera setting and see if it makes a difference to you as people have seem to found better results then the auto settings.
Regarding the Second problem as mentioned above its Noise which you probably get with low light photography.
SOLUTION : Try using flash with lower iso if possible, The higher the iso the more the noise, the lower the iso the less the noice will be and also make your pictures more darker, best to use flash.
Just my humble thoughts... and I dont have the lumia yet, but hoping to purchase one soon.
There are quiet a number of bugs in the lumia 900 which nokia has acknowledged and will be addressed in future updates

bitemydonkey said:
Unfortunately, the camera on this phone sucks. I have one and it takes horrible pictures 90% of the time. 10% of the time you will be amazed at how great the pictures look, the rest of the time you will be disappointed.
Not sure how how Nokia screwed it up this bad.
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If your Lumia 900 is taking "horrible" pictures 90% of the time it is either defective our you aren't using it correctly.
There are several adjustments on the camera. I suggest playing with them. I definitely change the color balance depending on the lighting conditions and I mess with the scene settings as well.
When you say the pictures are "horrible" what are you comparing them to? Frankly I've never been impressed with the low light capability of sensors smaller than Canon APS-C. Especially if you decide to go pixel peeping the way the OP did. I pixel peeped an image from a point and shoot camera years ago... I never did it again. You see all kinds of things you don't really want to know about.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

10. Photos are amazing!

10... Would use for professional purposes.
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10 - Photos are great! No complaints here!
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i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)

I think I can safely retire my Sony NEX-6 now for majority of uses. The photos coming out of this camera are amazing.

Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1.
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NIKKOTUASON said:
Amazing even compared to my Fuji X T1
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Please fix this.

I'm impressed so far.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-dYQXNfPs7UeGdhR2JSQ05HMGc/view?usp=drivesdk

S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.

I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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radioraheem2 said:
i've been testing the Note 7 camera side by side with the OnePlus 3 and Xiaomi MI 5 and Huawei P9 cameras, and while the Note 7 is slightly better, it's just very, very slightly, and it's mostly in low light setting. i don't see much difference in day time shots. i think in 2016, all smartphone cameras are pretty damn legit. so all these tech reviewers saying the Note 7 has "hands down the best camera by far", i don't agree with them. (it's worth keeping in mind all those other phones i mentioned cost literally HALF AS MUCH as the note 7)
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.

pete4k said:
I had no problem with indoor white balance under LED, but since you can have so many different variants in lightning I don't think there is a camera that would do it right all the time in auto mode, but you can switch to manual WB if you want.
overexposure, sure if you really work hard on it, like shoot from inside tunel against sun, but you can use spot meter in tricky light condition to keep what you need properly exposed, but auto works fine most of the time for me.
soft in any condition: are you talking about selfie cam? Because yes, that has fixed focus and will be soft, but rear cam doesn't seem soft when properly focused and again you have control where it should be focus on.
Have you actually used any of those cams, or just read about it somewhere, because I haven't so couldn't compare.
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Can OnePlus3, MI5 or P9 do underwater photography? Because I'm planning to, this weekend with N7.
Do any of those have something similar to s-pen? Because I use it everyday can't live without it and it would be nice to have other options.
Can I see the screen on other phones with sun shining directly on it? Because so far Note7 is the only screen I've seen that I have no problem seeing in full sun. But I haven't try any of the ones you mentioned.
And very very slightly better, so it is actually better?
Maybe there are reasons why N7 is more expensive, otherwise nobody would buy it? And with the discounts, free giveaways etc. maybe N7 is not as expensive as it first seem.
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The camera is slightly better. Here are photos to prove it (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...better-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones)
Of all the other bonus note features you mentioned, waterproofing is the only real universal useful feature that everyone would want. Hundreds of millions of people use a phone without a stylus and they couldn't care less. Plenty of people use the one plus 3 outdoors and sees the screen fine.
Using note 7's sales numberse to show the phone's supposed superiority is also a flawed argument, since a lot of that is branding and name recognition. It's like saying nike shoes are for sure the best because they sell the most.
I'm not really bashing the note 7 here, I have the phone and I like it a lot, I'm merely saying it's probably not worth more than double the price of the one plus 3, that's all I'm saying. 450 dollars more is not a small deal. 450 bucks can buy a lot, a lot of things.

It's tough to use the note front cam after using the 6P. The front cam on the 6P is an absolute monster, typically producing photos nearly as good as the REAR camera on my wife's iphone 6.
Vs the note 7 and S7e, the selfie cam pics are noticeably much less sharp and focused. A quick google search for blurry selfie pics for the Galaxy 7 devices yields countless forums of people complaining about this.
No idea if it's the software or the actual hardware that is the problem but it's absolutely there.

I am totally satisfied with the camera. (considering s4 and zenfone 2 were my previous devices.) I guess note 7 will be enough to handle daily shots for even business purposes. Any questions?

So, what's the difference between Bokeh (on the new iphone 7...after a software update) and what our phones do now....where the background is blurry?

meboy said:
S6 and S7 had white balance/colour temperature issues indoors.
Also overexposure.
S7 was noticeably soft in any conditions.
Does the Note 7 fix any of those?
Waiting to see way more side by side reviews.
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I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version

I'm satisfied

AdrianR2016 said:
I confirm that the camera is perfect. I have Exynos version
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saturation and colors are great but oversharped a bit on my opinion

I think all photos a "yellow-ish" a bit and expose are too high in some difficult scenarios like front sun etc

If Samsung can decrease/eliminate the oversharpening part, it will be a perfect camera here.