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S3 or nexus 4?

I have the s3 and its a great phone but not that impressed. I don't use any of the voice features or anything and since the jb update I have had battery and other issues. A friend wants to trade for his nexus 4 and I am wondering if anyone has thoughts. Other then no expansion on memory or changing battery what do you think? I have watched many videos but I trust xda members more then comparison videos.
Oh I know lte also but I dont use lte much anyway.
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Get a Note2 I had a S3 and swapped it for a Note2 and love it best phone I've ever had. Had a nexus would never get one again don't understand all the hype
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Gord Hunt said:
Get a Note2 I had a S3 and swapped it for a Note2 and love it best phone I've ever had. Had a nexus would never get one again don't understand all the hype
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People in my area seam to think the note 2 is a bar of gold. They have them priced close to and even above what you can buy them new no contract price. While they are pricing the s3 around 250. Plus I had the note 1 and hated the size. I am an update junky which is why I am thinking about it.
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The Nexus 4 is not all hype its got same CPU as the Note II which is the fastest processor available in a phone right now. If the Note II wasn't so thick and bulky i would get it but I prefer the S3 because of additional storage and removable battery 16gb just isn't enough for me but if it is for you get the Nexus 4 you wont be disappointed with either.
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s0ulja said:
The Nexus 4 is not all hype its got same CPU as the Note II which is the fastest processor available in a phone right now. If the Note II wasn't so thick and bulky i would get it but I prefer the S3 because of additional storage and removable battery 16gb just isn't enough for me but if it is for you get the Nexus 4 you wont be disappointed with either.
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I only use maybe 5 gigs of space so space is not an issue. I use a an old iphone for all my music lol. I just wanted hands on opinions like yours. Thanks.
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I have an S3 and my GF has an LG Optimus G. I wanted to see her get a Nexus 4 but we gave up. That said I'm impressed with the Optimus G, based on feel and hardware I would pick the LG phone, but I am very pleased with my S3. The performance and battery life of the LG is amazing, also black is a good color for a phone.

Lovin' my rooted S3 running stock 4.2.1 but if you're not into rooting N4 is a great choice especially the price of it. Can't really go wrong with either imo. It all comes down to preference

s0ulja said:
The Nexus 4 is not all hype its got same CPU as the Note II which is the fastest processor available in a phone right now. If the Note II wasn't so thick and bulky i would get it but I prefer the S3 because of additional storage and removable battery 16gb just isn't enough for me but if it is for you get the Nexus 4 you wont be disappointed with either.
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Actually, the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G have the same processor. S4 Pro. The Note II uses Samsung's own quad core processor (same as the S3 International)
Its like comparing apples to oranges. The Optimus G has no dev support, so that's a no go for me. Also heard the camera is brutal in low light. Yet the phone has some amazing specs for a decent price.
The Nexus 4 has amazing specs, and for the price nothing beats it. I can live with no expandable memory as long as I got 16GB. Hilariously, people are selling them for $500 to $600 because they are hard to get. I'll just wait till its back in stock.
And the golden Note II. I'll get one some day. But not for $650 to $800. Imagine telling my wife we can't afford the mortgage this month cause I bought a phone Lol. Almost as stupid as people paying over $800 for a iPhone 5. Ludicrous.
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Can you live without LTE? Question is self explanatory if you aren't in a LTE market.
Need more than 16gb? Nexus isn't for you.
Battery whore? Need not apply with nexus 4.
Only person that can answer these questions is themselves.
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Deggy said:
Can you live without LTE? Question is self explanatory if you aren't in a LTE market.
Need more than 16gb? Nexus isn't for you.
Battery whore? Need not apply with nexus 4.
Only person that can answer these questions is themselves.
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Are we talking stock for stock? With software modifications LTE can be enabled with the nexus 4.
Is the battery life really that bad as well? I haven't heard any complaints. But then again I'm not poking around on the Nexus forums. It feels like cheating
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I'd wait a few months until more 5 inch 1080p phones come out
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Correct, that's my mistake I thought the Note II featured the same S4 Pro found in the Optimus G and Nexus 4. The international Note II and apparently the US versions as well have the slightly upgraded Exynos 4212 @ 1.6ghz compared to the original 1.4ghz 4212 found in the International S3. To be fair though the S4 Pro might be a tad bit faster and more secure, not sure if you heard about the Exynos kernel exploit but the S4 Pro seems a bit of a better option at this point.
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Wait or go with nex if 16gb is enough for ya . On s3 - i wouldn't really recommend buying a device with previous gen soc when alternatives are available or are sure to become available in short time
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g2tegg said:
Is the battery life really that bad as well? I haven't heard any complaints. But then again I'm not poking around on the Nexus forums. It feels like cheating
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if you go on the Nexus 4 forum, you'll see a lot of complain about the battery.
And according to this test : http://mobileraptor.blogspot.ca/2012/12/google-nexus-4-battery-life-tests.html
if you only use your nexus to make call, you'll be fine. However, for everything else, the battery drains a lot faster than the GS3 :

deezid said:
I had the S3 and Note2 as well. Both were crap compared to my nexus 4 in terms of performance!
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S3 lags. But Nexus 4 is a different case. It never stutters when transitions between apps to apps and open a new app unlike the S3 which I hate that problem a lot on my S3. I believed that Samsung screwed up the Project Butter for all Mali 400MP devices.
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Correct, that's my mistake I thought the Note II featured the same S4 Pro found in the Optimus G and Nexus 4. The international Note II and apparently the US versions as well have the slightly upgraded Exynos 4212 @ 1.6ghz compared to the original 1.4ghz 4212 found in the International S3. To be fair though the S4 Pro might be a tad bit faster and more secure, not sure if you heard about the Exynos kernel exploit but the S4 Pro seems a bit of a better option at this point.
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Note 2 uses exynos 4412 not 4212, s4 pro is definitely better soc compared to exynos 4412
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Better cpu&Gpu on nexus 4
A bit Better camera on s3
Somewhat better battery on s3
Brighter screen on nexus 4
More saturated colours on s3(screen)
Vannila android on nexus 4 (faster updates)(more smooth)
Touchwiz overlay in s3( slower updates compared to nexus 4) (Usefull /useless features)

Get the droid DNA.

Can't get the Dna but i tried the nexus 4 nice phone but no signal at house. Was worse then an iphone i mean bad bad signal. So i went back to my note for now. Thanks for the advice guys.
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A couple friends have N4's, the battery is horrific. Theyre all on custom roms running conservative n everything and just cant beat my CM with standard settings.

Rekzer said:
A couple friends have N4's, the battery is horrific. Theyre all on custom roms running conservative n everything and just cant beat my CM with standard settings.
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N4 was a huge let down from Google.

Switch to galaxy s4

Anyone thinking about getting the s4 to replace the note 2? I dont think it will be and upgrade from my note 2...what do u think?
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I think ifbit has the octa5 it wouod be an upgrade but I still woukd not leave my Note2 for it. I am waiting for the Note3 I feel the Note line is better with more features than the S series
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No. If the leak holds true then the GS4 has got to be the laziest design upgrade, ever.
Rather keep my horses tight for the Note 3

Still haven't seen a phone announcement that makes me feel compelled to part with money for a new phone. 8 cores are cool but there are still nothing software wise that makes all those cores worth it.
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It will all depend on the specs. If it gets wireless charging, way better processor, 2gb ram, 32gb internal memory, same or better battery that's removable and better features plus the ones I currently have then yes I may sell my note 2 for the gs4. But it really has to impress for me to go through the trouble of selling my note 2 and buying the s4 at full retail.
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S4 looks pretty good reading the spec's but ill wait for the note 3.
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If the specs r correct ill get it till the n3
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Might pass but have a feeling I might get SG4 and Note 3.
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Waiting for the note 3 regardless. However, if I didn't know about the note 2, and stuck with the galaxy s line, I wouldn't go for the s4 based on the leaked photos that I hope aren't real, spec wise with a different look, I'd be all over it.
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Holding of on the note 3..
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Nope. Note for life. Will never go back to a GSx phone. All the rumored tech will make it to the Note lineup eventually anyway. I love my N2 too much to blow an upgrade on an inbetween phone.

Note 3 for sure
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I definitely want the note 3 over the s4 but if it's 5.9 I won't get it. I love the 5.5 size of it now and u can't use it if it gets any bigger.
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yankees45us said:
I definitely want the note 3 over the s4 but if it's 5.9 I won't get it. I love the 5.5 size of it now and u can't use it if it gets any bigger.
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It remains to be seen if the footprint of the phone gets bigger with that extra .4 inches of screen; it may be the same size! That'd be cool. But regardless, the S4 looks boring and it'll be more than 2 years until 4 cores of processing will not get you where you need to be. 8 core phones are something that I completely do not care about, I'd rather they put that effort into better design materials.

Note 3!!! Anything less is uncivilized!!!
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PsycloneTW said:
Nope. Note for life. Will never go back to a GSx phone. All the rumored tech will make it to the Note lineup eventually anyway. I love my N2 too much to blow an upgrade on an inbetween phone.
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This ^^^^^^^^^. Once I go note, it'll be hard for me to go back to anything smaller.

james robinson said:
Note 3!!! Anything less is uncivilized!!!
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True. No bettter way to put it lol:thumbup:
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PsycloneTW said:
Nope. Note for life. Will never go back to a GSx phone. All the rumored tech will make it to the Note lineup eventually anyway. I love my N2 too much to blow an upgrade on an inbetween phone.
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Yep. Pretty much this.

naw, I ll stick with my gn2, whatever they do with the s4 they will do do even better with the note 3

formuk said:
No. If the leak holds true then the GS4 has got to be the laziest design upgrade, ever.
Rather keep my horses tight for the Note 3
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Agreed. Although, the iphone 4G to 4GS (or 3G to 3GS) set the precedent for lame/lazy design upgrades. I think Samsung is just following suit.
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I'd rather they put that effort into better design materials.
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You and me both, amigo

Underwhelmed Galaxy S4

Anyone else underwhelmed with Galaxy S4 news? Hopefully some of the UI tweaks make their way to the Note II but otherwise Note II better than the S4. Matter of fact the S4 looks like a mini version of the Note II.
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Not really. Although it may look the same it has about the same or best features as the one. This phone is great and for those that have a note 2 it may not be that much of an update but for s3 owners it's a decent upgrade. But with lots of the software updates from s4 coming to s3 this phone is more of a phone for those trying Sammy for the first time. In the end this phone is a sure competition to the htc one.
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I hope we get the samsung hub that would be great everything else will come in time with custom roms. Well all but the motion stuff and air view probably. I agree Ill stick with my note2 unless it has the octa5 but we all know it wont
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yankees45us said:
Not really. Although it may look the same it has about the same or best features as the one. This phone is great and for those that have a note 2 it may not be that much of an update but for s3 owners it's a decent upgrade. But with lots of the software updates from s4 coming to s3 this phone is more of a phone for those trying Sammy for the first time. In the end this phone is a sure competition to the htc one.
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I personally don't see the upgrade for S3 owners but definitely see it for S2 owners. I was hoping for more wow factor since the S series and Note series are typically pretty close to each other save a few small differences.
If this is what Samsung will put out in 2013, I'm waiting until the Note 4.
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I have the S2 but I don't know.. I don't really see the need to have all those features. Plus the US variant not having OCTA is a deal breaker for me. The Exynos Chip is amazing.

emeraldayotte said:
I personally don't see the upgrade for S3 owners but definitely see it for S2 owners. I was hoping for more wow factor since the S series and Note series are typically pretty close to each other save a few small differences.
If this is what Samsung will put out in 2013, I'm waiting until the Note 4.
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This. S3 users will be pretty silly to get this upgrade unless money is no object for them. I do like a few this though. The white version for example is not just white it looks like it has a textured face. And the Window for the flip cover. The biggest update would be the AC wifi. I wish the Note 2 had that.
Also anyone catch that it has an IR LED? That's sweet if it does.
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Im curious to see if the s4 can be rooted easily because of the new Samsung knox software. It seems like its gonna be hard to flash roms and such cause the features of knox is to shut the phone down if unauthorized software is found. Also the kernel has secure boot on it. Any thoughts on this guys?
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Ind3lible said:
I have the S2 but I don't know.. I don't really see the need to have all those features. Plus the US variant not having OCTA is a deal breaker for me. The Exynos Chip is amazing.
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A deal breaker? Please explain why you need an 8 core chip and what it will do that the quad cores won't?
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A deal breaker? Please explain why you need an 8 core chip and what it will do that the quad cores won't?
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Yeah I agree. Tje snapdragon 600 is one hell if a chip. It is benchmarking better than the exynos 5 octa
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I'm really disappointed that they didn't focus on improving design and build quality. I love my Note 2 but will definitely hold out if the Note 3 is just a spec'd up update. It's awesome that the battery is removable and a SD card can be used, but I really believe they could used more premium parts in place of the chrome strip and plastic cover. If struggling HTC is capable of creating a gorgeously designed phone, then Samsung -with all it's resources and money - can definitely design a well-crafted, premium device.
But I am looking forward to the Note 3 and the new features the device will include. I just hope the device doesn't get any bigger (if it does, i hope it's not significantly noticeable) and includes more premium parts. Can you imagine the Note with an aluminum, removable battery cover and a premium chrome belt?

The plastic adds less weight and makes the screen less prone to breaking. I have dropped my phone numerous of times and never had to replace my screen. More weigh equals more weight which equals more mass and force when you drop your phone.
I believe Samsung's goal is to make their phone light and durable. If I had a choice of either protecting my screen or my phone cover I rather had a phone with some nicks than a cracked screen.
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13 MP back facing camera, internal storage space of up to 64GB, 1.9 GHz Snapdragon cpu. It's a little better than ours LOL
The Smart Scroll feature is pretty cool. I also like that it can tell if you are watching a video and if you look away from the screen it will auto pause. It comes with 4.2.2 so hopefully it can be easily ported to our Note II

emeraldayotte said:
I personally don't see the upgrade for S3 owners but definitely see it for S2 owners. I was hoping for more wow factor since the S series and Note series are typically pretty close to each other save a few small differences.
If this is what Samsung will put out in 2013, I'm waiting until the Note 4.
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this is exactly how i feel. people with a Note 1 or S2 can jump on, but if you have a S3 or Note 2, you'll be just fine this year.

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A deal breaker? Please explain why you need an 8 core chip and what it will do that the quad cores won't?
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Exynos chip is more optimized . Having it in the s2 you should know. Use the US variant of the s3 vs the international, it is just smoother with the exynos. So that's why its a deal breaker. Not going to settle for less. I really don't care for LTE.
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Yeah I agree. Tje snapdragon 600 is one hell if a chip. It is benchmarking better than the exynos 5 octa
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Its scores better only because the app is not optimized for octa
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Its scores better only because the app is not optimized for octa only singal dule and quad 600 is quad
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Trade Note 2 for htc one?

Seeking advice from fellow Note 2 owners. Should I trade my beloved Note 2 for a brand new HTC One?
I love the design of the One but battery life and screen size are two huge factors for why I got the Note.
Let me know what you guys think.
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os21um said:
Seeking advice from fellow Note 2 owners. Should I trade my beloved Note 2 for a brand new HTC One?
I love the design of the One but battery life and screen size are two huge factors for why I got the Note.
Let me know what you guys think.
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Only you can really answer that, since it's really about personal preference. Everything I've read about the One is that it's a beautifully styled phone with great performance, but I'm not interested in a trade because I really can't compromise on the inability to remove the battery or the memory. I love Samsung phones for that. I always carry a spare battery and I like being able to put my own memory in the phone, and even take it out if I need to transfer some files to/from PC but not tie up my phone.
I might be interested in the S4, but even so, I find the Note 2 is just too comfortable to trade away.

While I have owned 3 different HTC products in the last 4 years, I have decided that going back to them is not an option.
HTC has continued to lock users out of even the most basic of functions.
I want to change batteries, and change SD cards, not to mention the fact that HTC is not known for it's quality devices over time. All 3 of my HTC devices suffered from hardware issues and random rebooting only 6 months after purchase. Two of those devices were bone stock. The 3rd device just decided not to turn on one day.
I treat my devices with the upmost care, and HTC failed to make the one year mark on any of the 3 I've owned. While my note 2 is running perfectly.
Samsung is the clear choice for me, and although the "one" is a good device on paper, we have yet to see the long term performance, where Samsung and it's note 2 are a proven winner...IMHO....g

Hard to say. Will be up to you in the end. Only Htc phone that I have had that was a beast before its time was the Hd2. That phone was awesome! Was rock solid. I still have the HD2 and I probably won't ever get rid of it. Of course I am not using it now cause I love my Note 2.:good:

os21um said:
Seeking advice from fellow Note 2 owners. Should I trade my beloved Note 2 for a brand new HTC One?
I love the design of the One but battery life and screen size are two huge factors for why I got the Note.
Let me know what you guys think.
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Do you go to Ford forums and ask what kind of Daewoo car you should buy?

I had the HTC One X+, received duplicate texts. Loved the phone but ATT gave me a Note 2 for all the issues I was having. Would never go back to HTC again after experiencing the awesomeness of Samsung.

os21um said:
Seeking advice from fellow Note 2 owners. Should I trade my beloved Note 2 for a brand new HTC One?
I love the design of the One but battery life and screen size are two huge factors for why I got the Note.
Let me know what you guys think.
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We recieved our pre-launch shipments and I have been playinwg with it. The design is nice so is the 1080p screen, but I can't see me departing my Note II till the Note III. The metal case is going to be a problem for me during cold weather when holding your phone might feel painful. Furthermore I noticed that it heats up quite a bit from just installing a few apps. To my surpise it felt like a small hot plate. HTC Sense and Ultra pixels are nice for lowlight, but when you zoom in you can see the lower res quality of the 4MP camera.
Stick with the Note for navigating sites that need you to mouse over things, the awesome dev community, awesome 5.5 AMOLED screen, and light phone. So when you drop it .... it doesn't fall like a brick and smash.

i've read alot of reviews complaining about the heat issue; the ONLY thing that phone has on this is the forward facing speakers, nothing else...
Not enough to make me even consider getting one, plus of course, HTC's questionable quality, and inacessable battery/sd card slot

After the HTC EVO 3D boot loader debacle hmm my avatar says it all I will stay away from rant.
The ONE does look like a pretty sweet device but lack of removable batt , SD card and made by HTC is a big negative.....at least for me

I love my note 2!
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I wouldn't just my 2 cents.
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sling said:
After the HTC EVO 3D boot loader debacle hmm my avatar says it all I will stay away from rant.
The ONE does look like a pretty sweet device but lack of removable batt , SD card and made by HTC is a big negative.....at least for me
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You answered your own question when you said you got the note 2 for screen size and battery. You will be taking a big drop in both for those.

You seem to care about the two things that are the note 2's biggest strengths. I wouldn't do this trade and it doesn't sound like you should either.
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I love my note 2 and probably won't trade it in until the note 3. It is your decision. If you have a problem with your note you should trade it in but if there are no problems with it then just keeping the note will save you a fair pit of money.
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Trading your note for a one is a bit like testing the quality of chlorine tablets with your tongue.
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Just based on the fact that u started this thread.....I gotta ask...... are u smoking crack?
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In a word no.
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Super stoked for the note 3!!!

Idk about anyone else but I can't wait for the galaxy note 3. I mean I will be sad to replace my note 2 but the only phone I would ever replace it with would be the note 3. Not quite sure the specs...rumors have been a 2.3ghz quad core snapdragon processor with 3gb of ram which sounds amazing.
Anybody else feel this way?
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I have another yrat and a half before I can upgrade so it will be a Note 4 for me
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Same here.. Stull love my note 2. With how fast it already is without all the bloatware, it's already fast enough for me.
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I always do an early upgrade...I love my note 2 but I don't think I could wait until November 2014 to get a new phone lol
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I always do an early upgrade...I love my note 2 but I don't think I could wait until November 2014 to get a new phone lol
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lazerus06 said:
I have another yrat and a half before I can upgrade so it will be a Note 4 for me
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+1 to this^^^^^ even tho I can upgrade when I want, having 5 lines on the account.
I'll wait for the 4, like to stay with the even numbers:sly:. The Note 3 is just going to be a over sized S4, with a pen.. Jmho
My girl is going to get one so I'll just play with and hack that one!
Just my 2¢®
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I'm still undecided... It would have to really wow me. I might just wait 5 months or so until the upgrade price drops

I actually almost bought the galaxy mega 6.3 but read too many reviews basically saying the note 2 is way better......no point in buying a phone when you have the best there is in your hand already
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I might stay with the Note 2 unless they give me an early upgrade. If not the note 2 is fine. Then you are going to be a can't wait for the note 4. A never ending disease.
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Idk about anyone else but I can't wait for the galaxy note 3. I mean I will be sad to replace my note 2 but the only phone I would ever replace it with would be the note 3. Not quite sure the specs...rumors have been a 2.3ghz quad core snapdragon processor with 3gb of ram which sounds amazing.
Anybody else feel this way?
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Everybody is excited about the Note 3 because its predecessor, the Note 2 is a legendary device and arguably the best mobile phone ever to date. So the expectations are through the roof. Thats the thing, expectations. I think we are expecting so much out of this device that many of us will be disappointed. Here's what i think the note 3 should be in order to be a successful and a worthy upgrade:
- Specs ( samsung NEVER disappoints when it comes to specs on paper), Snapdragon S800 or Exynos 5 octa 2nd gen, 2-3 GB Ram, 32GB of storage minimum with expandable memory, 13mp camera just like the S4 but with OIS, IR blaster, dedicated camera button would be nice, 1080P display Amoled or LCD is just fine with me personally, gorilla glass 3, better speakers than the Note 2 already pretty good speakers.
- Enhanced S pen functionality, more pressure points, more features, more comfortable to hold, S pen to work with the capacitive buttons
- More useful features like Multi-window, S-buddy page, pop up browser. No need for gimmicks like smart scroll or smart pause that can potentially cause the phone to lag which leads to my next and most important point personally...
- NO FREAKING LAG!!!!!!! Just like the note 2 and not like the S4 when it launched. It needs to have an amazingly fast and smooth performance. If this isnt the case then it will not be worth upgrading from the note 2 regardless of the number of cores it has. There should be 0 tolerance with lag considering a snapdragon S800 or Exynos 5 octa SoC plus android 4.3.
- Design. I hope Samsung can be less predictable with their design, make something different from the S4, S4 mini and S mega 6.3. Thinner and lighter would be nice, less bezel and more comfortable in the hand.
- UI. I expect it to be very similar to the S4 touchwiz interface plus some additional things for the S pen. If it can change that would be nice but i wont complain otherwise.
- Battery life. The note 2 battery life is amazing, period. The Note 3 needs to be better, period.
- display size. 5.7 inch would be pretty nice. Some folks are suggesting that the Note 3 should have a 6.4 inch display just like the Z ultra but it woudn't benefit neither us nor Samsung. Future Notes would have to be as big as 6.4 inches or bigger otherwise it would be a downgrade. Bigger than 6.4 inch is definitely tablet territory so 5.7 inch is fine so next year they can do 5.9 and so on.
I think if Samsung manages to follow these points, the Note 3 will be unbeatable.

It'll also be nice to have some stable releases of CM and have full code for the SD800. I am very much so looking forward to upgrading to the note 3.
I love my note 2 but an CPU/Screen update is always welcomed

having faster processor and more ram is good and well but at the end of the day it all about OS and how it manages it resources. I mean look at apple and windows phones running less spec hardware but it the OS that make them stand apart from the crowd. Quad core processor really? **** the day I can run hard core applications like adobe or autocad or other enginering software then I would say yes we need a I7 processor. For daily use dual core is just fine. Yes to more ram but more faster processor why?
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Bajanman said:
+1 to this^^^^^ even tho I can upgrade when I want, having 5 lines on the account.
I'll wait for the 4, like to stay with the even numbers:sly:. The Note 3 is just going to be a over sized S4, with a pen.. Jmho
My girl is going to get one so I'll just play with and hack that one!
Just my 2¢®
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note 2 was oversized s3 with a pen
and note 4 will be oversized s5 probably too lol

DeathEvil said:
note 2 was oversized s3 with a pen
and note 4 will be oversized s5 probably too lol
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+1:thumbup:
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topgun303 said:
having faster processor and more ram is good and well but at the end of the day it all about OS and how it manages it resources. I mean look at apple and windows phones running less spec hardware but it the OS that make them stand apart from the crowd. Quad core processor really? **** the day I can run hard core applications like adobe or autocad or other enginering software then I would say yes we need a I7 processor. For daily use dual core is just fine. Yes to more ram but more faster processor why?
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Neither windows phone nor ios use true multitasking though, they both tombstone applications.
Not really a good comparison.
Dual core is fine? You're already using a quad core phone lol

get tmobile lol
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just traded my gs4 for a note 2 and im loving it. ill probably wait until the nexus 5 comes out this fall to decide if i get the note 3 or that.

crixley said:
Neither windows phone nor ios use true multitasking though, they both tombstone applications.
Not really a good comparison.
Dual core is fine? You're already using a quad core phone lol
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Maybe u use multiwindow but I dont. I know the phone is quad but as I said dual core would have been just fine. The only way samsung can make money is by changing hardware and introducing features that most of the general public will never use like S4
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fix-this! said:
just traded my gs4 for a note 2 and im loving it. ill probably wait until the nexus 5 comes out this fall to decide if i get the note 3 or that.
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Did u trade it on XDA or some website
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topgun303 said:
Maybe u use multiwindow but I dont. I know the phone is quad but as I said dual core would have been just fine. The only way samsung can make money is by changing hardware and introducing features that most of the general public will never use like S4
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Did u trade it on XDA or some website
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It isn't even just multiwindow....
Real multitasking is more than just that.
I actually do use it as well. The only way they can make money? They are the biggest phone manufacturer out there right now. I don't think that is why they're making money. Plus who is to say how many people or who uses what features? Just because I don't use some doesn't mean others don't.
So they change hardware, and introduce new features, don't all companies do that? lol

There is a sticky to discuss other devices