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[Q] Desire + Water = Glitches galore and a couple questions

So I accidentally put my Desire in about half an inch of water upside down. So my ear speaker, my camera lenses and flash and my head phone jack and my external speaker got submerged. It didn't sit in the water very long, probably about 3 seconds but still long enough to make it start doing some weird things. So my problems are that everything has to load everytime I want to use it. If I'm in my messages and I go to my home screen it goes to the white screen with the green HTC letters and I have to wait for it to load everything every time without fail. It also has to load all my messages when I go into them. Another thing that happens is that my power button message opens randomly and for awhile my power button wasn't working and sometimes it doesn't. So my questions for whoever can answer them is what can I do to fix those problems and where are the moisture detection papers in my phone in case I want to get it fixed under warranty? Thanks a lot.

try putting your device in an air tight container, filled with rice. the rice should absorb most or all of the moisture from your device, leave it for 12-24 hours, then boot it up and try again good luck

Anyone else? I would still like to know where the moisture detection strips are and if anyone else can help me. Thanks.

The moisture detection strips are located on the battery near the connectors and on the phone next to the battery connectors... I went swimming with my HTC desire last summer, it was fully submerged for at least 30 seconds (phone was on).. left it to dry for 5 days in dry rice, and 6 months on it still works, do defenitely try drying it further.

There is a third one too.
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The third is inside the actual handset located directly next to the usb port. Of which mine is completely pink.
Thought it might be interesting info for anyone else who manages to water/liquid damage their devices.
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The OP says that he got the upper part submerged, so there is a chance that none of the stickers got red.

That is excellent news. Thanks everyone.

[Q] Desire HD very sick - need repair help

Hiya,
my Desire HD got wet in the front pocket of my fleece, not drowned just some droplets of water that got inside the Otterbox case and into the phone. I did try and turn it on before I realised it had got wet, it wouldn't power up.
I removed the phone from the Otterbox and dried everything and tried to turn it on again as there was only very slight traces of moisture apparent. There was condensation and a couple of little drops of water inside. I discovered there must have been enough moisture to short out the battery as there was a little residue mark above the contacts on the inside of the casing. I then noticed the liquid indicators had turned red.
I removed the battery cover and dried the phone gently using an electric room heater for hours, I also put the phone in a bag of rice for a couple of days.
I tried to power it up again after a few days in the rice and it wouldn't start up. I measured across the battery contacts with a multi meter and found the battery was open circuit, so I know it must have shorted. Hoping that this was the only damage I bought a new replacement battery. When I fitted the new battery nearly a week later and switched on the phone, everything seemed to be fine but the display seemed to flash, and as I had a Leedroid rom installed I heard R2D2 chirping and could see the device start to boot up as normal on the screen. Then the display went dark and hasn't worked since. I stripped the phone and cleaned a couple of patches of residue, one of which was right in the lcd connector.
Now when I try and start the phone there is no display, the phone vibrates once when I hold in the power button. Approximately 40 or 50 seconds later I can hear R2D2 making his tweeting noises which always happens on boot up. I didn't think it took so long to hear R2D2 but maybe the phone is checking the file system or something now, and I just can't see it.
It may be that I just need a new screen & digitizer to repair the phone, but I can't tell what might be on the display - maybe it's the phone unlock screen asking for my pin number etc. I can't see any image on the screen, that you would normally see when the baclight is faulty, I have tried to view it with a desk lamp, but it's just black. The capacitive buttons at the bottom don't seem to have any effect, perhaps they are not enabled if it's sitting at the password screen, if it is at that screen.
The l.e.d's don't light up at the top when I turn it on or plug in the charger.
I might have also damaged the volume key switch/ribbon slightly.
What would you do with this phone, any advice on how I could proceed ?
Would it be working just with no display, as R2D2 is squeaking(Leedroid rom has this when the device boots and has an animation of a pc booting up with the post screen) ?
No l.e.d's is a bit worrying and it doesn't seem to know when on charge etc. but perhaps they only work once the phone has booted, I can't remember DOH!
I just thought I would ask, as there are a lot of knowledgeable people on here and it might be possible to save my droid.
Grateful for any help or advice
kind regards
Barry

So my waterproof case failed... Phone surprisingly resilient to water.

I figured I would share my experience, as I was pretty surprised. I fried an epic 4g touch by setting it down in a miniscule patch of water on a table a while back, so I didn't really have much faith my s3 would pull through.
Here's what happened, and what I did:
I had the PT waterproof case. Long story short, the earpiece membrane tore, and it was thrown in the pool. Didn't notice until I got out. Phone was still powered on, and water was all up inside of the phone, there was condensation on the inside of the camera lenses, etc.
I turned it off, took the back off, pulled the battery and SD card out, and dried up as much water as I could. Once I got home, I unscrewed and removed the 2 back panels and carefully dried up what I could with qtips and paper towel. I had to remove the rear camera block to dry up water underneath it. I then let it sit out all taken apart overnight for a full 12 hours.
The next day, I put everything back together, popped the battery in and plugged in the charger.
Nice, charging animation.
Let it fully charge then powered it on...
Everything seemed to work just fine. I expected the worst, and was quite surprised. I mean, it wasn't just a splash of water, it was literally everywhere throughout the inside of the phone.
The catch - launching any camera apps causes a FC. I'm pretty certain I plugged the rear camera back in correctly, as and I only detached the little connector rectangle in order to get the water under the block. Luckily rear cameras are 25$ on Amazon, and fronts are about 6$. I have one of each on the way so well see how it goes.
I've been using the phone for almost a week since then and everything seems to be working as it should. Speakers, microphones, light sensor, buttons, gyro, touchscreen, SD mount etc. are all fine.
Am I mistakenly under the impression that water logged phones don't usually pull through, or something? I didn't even power it off until at least an hour after the water got in it. It was even rebooted once while filled with water, before I noticed it.
Funny side note - my uncles flip (yes, flip. You can still get flip phones through sprint. He was recently forced by sprint to upgrade from his old brick phone, because they were literally discontinuing support for it on the network. I believe the brick was technically a nextel. It had an *extendable antenna* and no text capabilities. Sprint left him a message and said he had so many days to get a new phone because on X date, his would no longer work lol) phone got thrown into a lake. Apparently it rang when it was called for a full day while it sat on the bottom of the lake, until the battery finally died.
Update: installed new cameras and now it says it cannot connect to them. Before it would just crash.
In case someone out there, at some point in time, for some reason cares: I bought an s3 with a cracked screen off ebay for the motherboard. Swapped the boards and lo, the cameras work perfectly! I moved over the nv data from my board to the new one. I currently have 2 phones which are technically the same phone. Mine isn't getting 3g/4g, only network and wifi. Trying to sort it out but other than that my phone is back to normal, and double the internal storage (cracked s3 was a 32gb, got it for 120$). Total spent - 150$. Actual labor and repair was a breeze, and the replacements cameras were dirt cheap. I have insurance but this way i didn't have to file a claim and the actual repair was pretty fun (to me at least).
So the lesson is: no matter how bad you want to impress your 5 year old nephew, don't let him throw your waterproof phone in the pool.
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Moto Z Play was partially submerged in water, condition deteriorated, won't turn on

My wife dropped her Moto Z Play into a puddle and the bottom half of the phone was submerged. Initially the phone continued to work and she wasn't concerned, so she did not properly dry the phone off. Eventually the screen stopped working and she plugged it in before she told me about it. I dried the phone off as best I could, removing the cover and taking out the sim card. I placed it into rice, where it has been for about a week now. The phone will not power on at all, it makes no noises when plugged in (the phone usually makes a high pitched, very quiet tone when charging). The forward facing light does blink white when it is plugged in but it makes no other response. I do not know what that means and I have not seen anything about it at any forums. The battery is not removable. Any suggestions on what to do now and any explanation on what the blinking white light means? Thanks

same exact situation...
Same thing happened to a friends' moto z play this weekend when she was tubing at a local river. The battery had died so her's was not on when it hit the water and was only submerged for a few seconds. She dried it off best she could and plugged the charger in to see if it would charge. It just blinks the white light on the front three times and then the battery lightning bolt graphic displays momentarily and repeats this. Phone will not turn on as well. We haven't left it on the charger for any period longer than a minute or two. Found this thread, looking for similar situations hopefully for a solution.
FWIW - we did find this youtube video water testing the Z play and it seems as though this phone should be relative water resistant.
since i haven't made 10 posts I cant include url but if you enter watch?v=dxvLKskmkg8 after you tube dot com you can find that video. THIS IS NOT SPAM and very relevant to this thread.
Thanks for sharing @ABTF16 anyhow... Hopefully someone knowledgeable to this scenario will be able to provide an answer at some point in the near future.
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My wife dropped her Moto Z Play into a puddle and the bottom half of the phone was submerged. Initially the phone continued to work and she wasn't concerned, so she did not properly dry the phone off. Eventually the screen stopped working and she plugged it in before she told me about it. I dried the phone off as best I could, removing the cover and taking out the sim card. I placed it into rice, where it has been for about a week now. The phone will not power on at all, it makes no noises when plugged in (the phone usually makes a high pitched, very quiet tone when charging). The forward facing light does blink white when it is plugged in but it makes no other response. I do not know what that means and I have not seen anything about it at any forums. The battery is not removable. Any suggestions on what to do now and any explanation on what the blinking white light means? Thanks
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Quite weird!
It passes the water test with no problem.
Speaker working fine camera working fine touch working fine.??
And in the video he said that the Motorola claims that it has advanced nano coating technology which can protect it from accidental spills or splashes.

Trust me, my Moto X Force went the same way
One second drop in water, it was upright and it was only the bottom inch and for less than one second as I immediately removed it, continued to work for the rest of the day but died in the evening and would not turn on
Sent to Moto and returned with 'unit beyond economical repair' along with a photo and half of the components were corroded
WTF!! one second in water
Don't get me wrong I love Moto's (I have a Z Play now) but they are rubbish if they even get moist

If your phone gets wet you are supposed to leave it off for at least a day in a dry area. I left mine in a hot car with leather seats. You need to let all the components dry out. You could achieve the same affect with a hair dryer.
Turning it on, or trying to charge it is no good idea.
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My wife dropped her Moto Z Play into a puddle and the bottom half of the phone was submerged. Initially the phone continued to work and she wasn't concerned, so she did not properly dry the phone off. Eventually the screen stopped working and she plugged it in before she told me about it. I dried the phone off as best I could, removing the cover and taking out the sim card. I placed it into rice, where it has been for about a week now. The phone will not power on at all, it makes no noises when plugged in (the phone usually makes a high pitched, very quiet tone when charging). The forward facing light does blink white when it is plugged in but it makes no other response. I do not know what that means and I have not seen anything about it at any forums. The battery is not removable. Any suggestions on what to do now and any explanation on what the blinking white light means? Thanks
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I had accidently taken my MZP under a running tap and with the pressure the water went all the way inside my MZP but then at first it worked fine for 1 hour or less. Then it switched off automatically and started rebooting. I still managed to get it on then it started to show results like camera stopped working and fingerprint scanner stopped working. I shaked the phone and then removed the water which was remaining. Then I managed to switch it off and then put it in rice for 2 days. After that its working fine, only fingerprint scanner was not working but yesterday it started working and now everything is back to normal. Try isopropyl alcohol which is 99% pure alcohol and then dip your phone in and then put it again for 2 days in rice. I hope this works. However I just needed rice to do its work and mine worked. Hope yours work but if its damaged go to the service centre asap.
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Speaker, Mic and Vibration not working?

Hi Folks,
I recently dropped my phone in water. Put the phone in uncooked rice for 2 days, removed sim tray, put it under direct sunlight., tried everything I could possible to dry it. After 4 days, powered on the device, it turned on fine and most of the things working as normal. I did a hardware test with *#808# and most of the tests are passed.
But Speaker, Mic (also the headphone jack) and Vibration isn't working any more. I also noticed that it is charging fine but discharging very fast, even the battery stats shows 100 to 70% as a vertical line. So, I guess battery needs to be replaced. Other than that, on normal use it is heating up.
I did some google search and few forums says, the speaker and vibration connector goes under battery and connect to the top of motherboard. Considering battery is screwed up. I guess the connector is removed or damaged may be.
Has anyone faced the same problem before or anyone can advice something?

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Hi Folks,
I recently dropped my phone in water. Put the phone in uncooked rice for 2 days, removed sim tray, put it under direct sunlight., tried everything I could possible to dry it. After 4 days, powered on the device, it turned on fine and most of the things working as normal. I did a hardware test with *#808# and most of the tests are passed.
But Speaker, Mic (also the headphone jack) and Vibration isn't working any more. I also noticed that it is charging fine but discharging very fast, even the battery stats shows 100 to 70% as a vertical line. So, I guess battery needs to be replaced. Other than that, on normal use it is heating up.
I did some google search and few forums says, the speaker and vibration connector goes under battery and connect to the top of motherboard. Considering battery is screwed up. I guess the connector is removed or damaged may be.
Has anyone faced the same problem before or anyone can advice something?
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You can't dry a phone completely without opening it. So if you are upto it, open it up (provided you are out of warranty) and disconnect all the connectors and clean them with alcohol or other suitable liquid, leave it to dry and then reassemble.

It's hard to guess exactly what happened inside, but it seems there are two possibilities:
- it could be that your top (main) board is damaged, which causes malfunction of connected bottom board OR
- you may have damaged both parts of the phone...
Either case, repairs won't be cheap, motherboard is the most expensive part of the phone.
I would suggest disassembling the device and inspecting internals. Corrosion should be visible.
Check some teardown videos (recommend Jerry Rig Everything or iFixit) before doing anything if you haven't yet.
Sent from my OnePlus 3 using Tapatalk

Thank you @Explorer23 and @tnsmani will do a tear down to check for visible damage part if any.

Took the phone to OP service centre, the repair guy opened it in-front of me for diagnosis. The phone was in dry condition but there were traces of water deposits. He checked few things and suggested that needs to replace mother board as there was no signal coming to speaker receiver and this will cost ~17k.
For me replacing motherboard for such a huge cost isn't of any worth.
Any suggestion if it can be repaired in someway or shall I start to think about selling/exchanging it online.