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Hi Folks.
Does anyone have any idea what a safe operating temperature for the Samsung Epic Touch 4G is?
I most recently have been using the usb to hdmi converter to play shows to my TV and then running a VNC Server on the phone so I can control the Epic from my laptop to pause, play, etc. while the phone is setting by the TV.
This works great, but with the video and the server running the Epic gets up to 42 to 46 degrees C.
I have felt phones get hotter, but I don't want to damage my phone either. It cooled down to 32 degrees C pretty fast after using it as a media center.
Any opinions or technical knowledge? I ran it for a few hours, and am hoping I did not cause any permanent damage.
I know epic 1 shut down at like 110° f. might be too low, but mime got so hot on halloween after using as projection for our haunted house. Bricked the phone until I factory reset it...played movie fine, just boot lopped.
-jr
tubasteve said:
I know epic 1 shut down at like 110° f. might be too low, but mime got so hot on halloween after using as projection for our haunted house. Bricked the phone until I factory reset it...played movie fine, just boot lopped.
-jr
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I think I took the Touch to like 114F. I did not notice the phone misbehaving at all, and it cooled down fast enough. (Well not entirely true. It kinda froze up, but that happens everytime I unhook it from the TV, seems my ADW Launcher gets glitchy when using with TV, don't think related to heat.) I think the reason it really heated up was due to using as vnc server, would not even gain charge. Yesterday when I just streamed the video to the TV without vnc, it stayed charged and seemed cooler.
The phone you used for a projection, was it the Epic or the Epic Touch? And after doing the factory reset, did you notice any issues? Slower, freezing, etc.?
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Hoping to get some more incite into the Epic Touch temperature specifications.
Thanks in advance
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Bump one more time. Anyone?
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I think that the phone shuts down beforehand but it would be nice to know what that number is.
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I think that the phone shuts down beforehand but it would be nice to know what that number is.
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Thanks for the reply John.
I would think so too. Just curious as doing the streaming etc to the TV is very convenient but not worth damaging the phone. I really think its ok to do so though, the phone has been at 40-42C with normal use. Running a bit above that has not seemed to harm it.
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I think I had a run in with a rogue app the other day. My battery was draining unusually fast and I plugged it in to charge, but it was charging very slowly and the temp got up to 120F according to the widget I'm using. I rebooted and everything has been fine since.
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Often times (I mean, very often) when I go to grab and use my phone I can tell by touch that it's hot and check the battery temp - those times it's usually 106° F and higher. I could tell you now that seeing my temp at 110° to 115° F doesn't surprise me at all. What kills me is that most of these times I'm not actively doing anything with the phone - I've just pulled it out of my pocket and think, damn, it's hot again.
A couple of weeks ago I updated the Widget Locker app to the latest version to try out the Honeycomb and Ice Cream lock screens, so after updating I played around with it for a while. My phone started getting hot - as in HOTTER than I'm used to. I checked the temp and it was screaming hot at 122°. What's worse is that it kept getting hotter and when I checked my battery monitor app it was definitely Widget Locker that was driving it up there. I powered off, let the battery cool a bit then rebooted. I plugged in the phone to regain some charge and checked it a little while later to see it was really, really hot again. Now at some point it was so hot it would NOT charge - stating this explicitly. I pulled the battery to let it cool and tried again later. This happened about 3-4 times before I said screw it and uninstalled Widget Locker all together. Hasn't done that again since.
So, if it helps you at all, temps around 110° - 115° have been fine for me. Over 120° would start to concern me and I think it stops charging and gives you a warning at 130°.
I've attached some photos of that particular instance. The last photo shows my temp distribution... I'm assuming all the time, and it surprised me at being an avg of 88°.
Thanks Beans! That was very useful information. I feel mich better now. Thats to bad about Widget Locker. I have used that app on occasion. I have not had a problem yet with it getting to hot on its own. But if it does I will assume its a troublesome app. Thanks again!
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Thanks Beans! That was very useful information. I feel mich better now. Thats to bad about Widget Locker. I have used that app on occasion. I have not had a problem yet with it getting to hot on its own. But if it does I will assume its a troublesome app. Thanks again!
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I used to have a problem with Widget Locker in earlier versions but the updated versions have been much more battery friendly and my phone doesn't seem to get hot from it. I am using a custom slider that someone from XDA made though but I don't think that should matter
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My wife's Epic 4G was working fine yesterday but today it crashed and overheated pretty severely. When it was still plugged in and crashing it showed the battery charging and then it turned yellow and show a yellow warning triangle with a thermometer beside it, is the phone going to stop working on us?
I would appreciate a quick response so I can take it to Sprint and see what they can do about it.
I just factory reset it to insure that it wasn't a rogue application or what not and the phone is still running slow, not as bad as when it was crashing, but it still works so I don't know what's going on with it.
Also the phone is stock and has always been stock without root or any other type of hacking, etc.
It just stooped working perfectly one minute.
She showed me that the screen was blinking rapidly in an up and down bar fashion on the home screen and during applications.
First of all how old is the phone. My phone runs games hot all the time and never crashes (well sometimes, but usually when im not even doing anything with it).
I would think that the video is going out on it and it is rebooting. Depending on the age I think your phone is dead dude.
Cheers
Burrito
Not a year yet, it'll be a year old in June or July. I'm hoping it was just a virus or something because its working now. Should I exchange it anyway?
Nabbu eats your face.
Try flashing it back to stock or wipe the data if it isn't already rooted. I've never heard of anything of this sort... need some screenshots or something.
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It's already stock.
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Try flashing it back to stock or wipe the data if it isn't already rooted. I've never heard of anything of this sort... need some screenshots or something.
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I already factory reset it and it's running right now as if it were just fine but what I'm wondering is if it's going to happen again and not work afterwards.
I'm thinking about taking it in to Sprint and exchanging it but I'm afraid there might be fees for exchanging or what not. The phone has been dropped multiple times but it never had any issues before.
The drop distance has been less then 2 feet every time.
No water damage to the phone itself but the Sprint tech said the battery's "water damage" indicator was activated and showing water damage.
The phone HAS been in the bathroom during multiple showers which might be the cause for the battery's damage indicator to go off but the phone, like I said, has never had any issues.
She downloads pretty much everything from the Market so I was suspecting viruses or malware and now it's "clean" it's running fine.
Any suggestions for where I should go from here?
The phone should be fine. This has happened to me a few times.... if your phone gets extremely hot it will refuse to charge as a safety feature and show that yellow triangle thing... open the back of the phone take the battery out and let it cool down.
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That's the best advice i've gotten on here! Thanks a ton! ^^b
Nabbu eats your face.
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Try flashing it back to stock or wipe the data if it isn't already rooted. I've never heard of anything of this sort... need some screenshots or something.
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Happened to me my battery got near 118*F so I took it out and let it cool on some aluminum and put it back in was fine
BTW you can't take a screenie because phone shuts it self off
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I'm guessing that the overheating problem had to do with a buggy app that was running on the phone and took lots of data or cpu time. This has also been know to happen when running wifi hotspot apps.
Regardless, like everyone else said the phone went into thermal protection mode. The battery got hot and it wouldn't charge the battery until it cooled down.
Could be the screen being on and maybe running a governor such as "performance"? Also, I've left my phone under a pillow charging, woke up it was 110F and I haven't had this problem it mustve been really hot
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Fire n mage said:
Could be the screen being on and maybe running a governor such as "performance"? Also, I've left my phone under a pillow charging, woke up it was 110F and I haven't had this problem it mustve been really hot
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phone on the charger while doing things stir up more heat than normal as well.
plus i just had mine on the charger and for five minutes i was listening to tune in radio streaming over wifi and playing lets golf 3 and got off and phone was at 109.4*F Battery heat
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I'm guessing that the overheating problem had to do with a buggy app that was running on the phone and took lots of data or cpu time.
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THIS! ^^^ Without looking at your phone, I'm guessing this was the culprit. She had a buggy/defunct app that was probably frozen in the background while still sucking CPU/RAM. I've had a few of those instances and it DEFINITELY increases the temperature of the phone.
Only other thing I can think of is if she runs her phone at the brightest setting and has a long timeout on the screen timeout. Either way, I think it's nothing a little spring cleaning of the apps and tweaking couldn't take care of. Good luck buddy
My first Galaxy S3 went back due to excessive ink markings on the screen and since getting my replacement I have noticed it running hotter than I remember the first one being. The heat feels to be coming from the lower half of the screen / back of the phone.
I compared it to my friends phone and his gets just as hot. I am running FreeGS3 v0.1.0 and my friends was running stock - non rooted.
I ended up going to Sprint and the tech at the store replaced my phone with a new one out of the box and it is displaying the same behavior with temp.
I see no ill effects from this and am getting pretty good battery life for my usage, it is more of an annoyance for my phone to get so hot though. It seems a little warm for just browsing the web or FB on Wi-Fi so who knows.
It never seems to be the battery temp, but the CPU temp that climbs and is responsible for the heat.
I should point out that I had a Speck Candy Shell Case on the first phone, but that case has since been broke and returned. It is possible that my first phone got just as hot but somehow the dual layer design of the case disappated some of the heat, but I still feel it on the bottom half of the screen. My EVO LTE didn't get this hot in the few weeks I have it, and I have an Airave at home where it still heats up so I think we can rule out signal strength as a cause.
Anyone want to chime in with thoughts or suggestions?
Mine does that too, thought I was the only one.
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randomrobbi said:
My first Galaxy S3 went back due to excessive ink markings on the screen and since getting my replacement I have noticed it running hotter than I remember the first one being. The heat feels to be coming from the lower half of the screen / back of the phone.
I compared it to my friends phone and his gets just as hot. I am running FreeGS3 v0.1.0 and my friends was running stock - non rooted.
I ended up going to Sprint and the tech at the store replaced my phone with a new one out of the box and it is displaying the same behavior with temp.
I see no ill effects from this and am getting pretty good battery life for my usage, it is more of an annoyance for my phone to get so hot though. It seems a little warm for just browsing the web or FB on Wi-Fi so who knows.
It never seems to be the battery temp, but the CPU temp that climbs and is responsible for the heat.
I should point out that I had a Speck Candy Shell Case on the first phone, but that case has since been broke and returned. It is possible that my first phone got just as hot but somehow the dual layer design of the case disappated some of the heat, but I still feel it on the bottom half of the screen. My EVO LTE didn't get this hot in the few weeks I have it, and I have an Airave at home where it still heats up so I think we can rule out signal strength as a cause.
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Network related I think. Not necessarily signal strength but a poor data connection.mine gets hot as hell at the Bottem where the antenna is when my data is horrid.my roommates s2/e4gt Does the Same thing except at the top of the phone where the antenna is on that phone. Which would explain the battery life not being affected. The poorer the network performance the hotter it is. Sound familiar to anyone? Put the phone in airplane mode.and stress it in any way possible.overclock and run a benchmark while trying to play a game.what ever comes to mind.just leave in airplane mode and I bet it doesn't get nearly as hot as what your describing. I had a galaxy nexus on Verizon that rarely got hot. Where as my mother just got a sprint galaxy nexus which gets hotter than any phone I've ever felt but only with poor data speed as well. I've hit 120·F on my s3. I've seen her gnex hit around 140·F. So I'm blaming the network
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Network related I think.mine gets hot as hell at the Bottem where the antenna is when my data is horrid.my roommates s2/e4gt
Does the Same thing except at the top of the phone where the antenna is on that phone. Which would explain the battery life not being affected. The poorer the network performance the hotter it is
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Yeah I would buy that but my Epic Touch never got that hot plus I have an Airave at home. Doesn't heat up as much for me in Power Save mode with the CPU Limited. I think the CPU may be the culprit.
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Yeah I would buy that but my Epic Touch never got that hot plus I have an Airave at home. Doesn't heat up as much for me in Power Save mode with the CPU Limited. I think the CPU may be the culprit.
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I'm leaning towards cpu as well, if I limit it seems not to get as hot
randomrobbi said:
My first Galaxy S3 went back due to excessive ink markings on the screen and since getting my replacement I have noticed it running hotter than I remember the first one being. The heat feels to be coming from the lower half of the screen / back of the phone.
I compared it to my friends phone and his gets just as hot. I am running FreeGS3 v0.1.0 and my friends was running stock - non rooted.
I ended up going to Sprint and the tech at the store replaced my phone with a new one out of the box and it is displaying the same behavior with temp.
I see no ill effects from this and am getting pretty good battery life for my usage, it is more of an annoyance for my phone to get so hot though. It seems a little warm for just browsing the web or FB on Wi-Fi so who knows.
It never seems to be the battery temp, but the CPU temp that climbs and is responsible for the heat.
I should point out that I had a Speck Candy Shell Case on the first phone, but that case has since been broke and returned. It is possible that my first phone got just as hot but somehow the dual layer design of the case disappated some of the heat, but I still feel it on the bottom half of the screen. My EVO LTE didn't get this hot in the few weeks I have it, and I have an Airave at home where it still heats up so I think we can rule out signal strength as a cause.
Anyone want to chime in with thoughts or suggestions?
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Try this out;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790061
I flashed via CWM and no more issues with heat at all. I also saw a decent increase in battery life.
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Idk if there's a bug, but check with betterbatterystats and see if gsiff_daemon is running at the top of the list... if it is, it's probably causing the battery to get hot, along with draining battery. You can fix it by using Root Explorer and renaming that file to gsiff_daemon.bak , it's in system/bin
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This phone gets hot it's every gs3 mine even said it was to hot to charge when i plugged it in before.
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I have had this problem when i switched to cm10 but my gs3 doesnt get nearly as hot on stock...
I'm having this issue as well and its kinda bothersome. I was going to post a new thread (glad s I searched first). I especially notice it when playing games, especially graphically intense ones like nova 3 or mass effect. The phone gets hot--real HOT. I'm coming from an evo 4g lte and it didnt get as hot. Love my s3 but I'm concerned I'm really gonna shorten its life by running so hot.
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Can you guys give the tempuratures your phones are getting up to? Mine has yet to get over 106. My ET4G would get up to 116 if I was playing a game.
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Can you guys give the tempuratures your phones are getting up to? Mine has yet to get over 106. My ET4G would get up to 116 if I was playing a game.
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What r using to measure temp? Batt temp?
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I've tried a few methods, the one in this thread and a few others and still a no go. I even went into root explorer and renamed giskk_daemon. I honestly think it's the menu bar on the white gs3. I had the blue one and had no problem until I recently exchanged it for the white one yesterday.
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What r using to measure temp? Batt temp?
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system info widget gives your phone's current temp
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Try this out;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790061
I flashed via CWM and no more issues with heat at all. I also saw a decent increase in battery life.
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Tried that but still the same.
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Purchased my GS3 last week, and noticed it got very hot with use but wrote it off as my phone working overtime downloading all my apps and setting up my accounts. After that I noticed it still gets hot browsing the web using chrome and looking at pics on Instagram, up to 45c! Upgraded to JB through Kies and the problem persists. Temps I'm getting are 28c-45c, are these normal temps for this phone? Im getting 41c typing this and listening to music through PowerAmp. Wondering if I should return to BB for a replacement. I'm also running stock everything. Tried searching for answers but got mixed results, some yes some no some say just root and flash a ROM.
Any help and suggestions are appreciated.
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i get around 30C/90F on my phone. but 35C/95F with intense use.
So this sounds about normal temp. But does the back of your device get hot also?
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So this seems to be normal times, but dies the back of your phone get hot?
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So this seems to be normal times, but dies the back of your phone get hot?
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i only notice it getting hot when im playing a game for a good amount of time
Under no to light use, I've seen the phone get as low as 23C (which is about the same temperature as the ambient environment; wow). Moderate to heavy use puts it at 30-31C, and if I'm overclocking the thing and, say, playing videos on it, it can get as hot as 38-39C (I have to really work at it to reach that temperature, though, and it's definitely not very stable at that point).
I'd be concerned if you're clearing 40C, particularly if you're not overclocking the phone or anything.
I Been browsing the forum for quite a while now and my phone is Luke warm at best, but probably more so from my hands then anything. I'd say you got something running hot, get it replaced.
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Thanks for the responses guys, I think I am going to return it for another one from BB. LOL i'm averaging 40c right now and I didn't do anything but respnd to a text from my wife! I'll do a factory reset, if nothing improves by this weekend I'll return it.
so my phone is charging I get a phone call yep hot as he'll burning up... I look 104f yeah that's real hot couldn't even talk on the phone, phone lags as hell, the screen issues with the blur I mean come on Samsung I love you guys but you really messed up the phone, I loveeee. the camera on the phone its amazing but still not worth all this... and don't tell me a update would fix this, a Damn 670 phone this should not happen never happen on my note 2 which is faster, another feature Samsung forgot Sheat
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Calm down. I doubt Samsung is reading this.
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Yeah bro calm down
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so my phone is charging I get a phone call yep hot as he'll burning up... I look 104f yeah that's real hot couldn't even talk on the phone, phone lags as hell, the screen issues with the blur I mean come on Samsung I love you guys but you really messed up the phone, I loveeee. the camera on the phone its amazing but still not worth all this... and don't tell me a update would fix this, a Damn 670 phone this should not happen never happen on my note 2 which is faster, another feature Samsung forgot Sheat
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You realize 104 F is not hot... at all.....
1) Laptops and have had electronic components built to withstand up to 100 CELSIUS for years. I'm sure your phone can handle 40.
2) If you can't talk on the phone because a little warmth is too much for your sensitive skin move the **** to Alaska because 104 is not hot by any stretch of the imagination.
3) My phone has no lag.... at all, so I don't know what you're speaking of. I can play NFS:MW for an hour, switch to Eufloria HD for another, then hit up GTA:VC for an hour with absolutely no problems. I can also scroll through the drawer faster than my S3 could respond, so it is much more responsive. Maybe you got a defective unit or you messed it up somewhere rooting or flashing roms or poking around where you shouldn't have... I mean based just by your grammar you're not that smart of a person, so I'd say user error is MUCH more likely.
4) If by the blur you mean the purple when you're in the settings, well yes. You've got me there. That is a minor bug that needs to be addressed, and will. The phone has been out for like 11 days bro, give them a ****ing minute.
5) No, sir, your Note 2 is not faster. Yes, it has a larger screen and slightly better battery life, but faster? No. Run a CPU and GPU benchmark and try to tell me its faster.
Give them some time to work out the kinks in the programming. This is how electronics work, nothing is ever going to be perfect when its being produced by the millions on a short time frame with 6 different versions for different countries with different hardware and 10000 different carriers trying to poke around and make their own adjustments to the software.
TL;DR: Stop crying, you're embarrassing yourself.
Just use the speaker phone.....
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Just use the speaker phone.....
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Good one.
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I hate when people say use benchmark look which is faster... man everyday use is what matter, when I'm playing games and my note 2 runs them smooth and my S4 runs them choppy there is an issue I'm sorry there just is. Now for 104 degrees being not too hot, wow really its beyond hot for a phone to hit, don't give me the whole laptop crap this is a phone that people use to make phone calls and the screen and the back just feels way way too hot. Just use the speakerphone what are we Apple "You're holding it wrong" come on guys give me a break a 670$ phone should not have all of this stuff going on. Then you're telling me oh download an app to fix the screen issues -.- , you guys may think this is over the top i don't think so when you buy something so expensive and it works so iffy, don't get me started on Shealth love it but keep restarting your steps all the time ... might as well call it Srestart ..... oh samsung i love you but you're killing me with this phone. I'm getting a replacement on monday I'll let you guys know how that one is hope its 100X better....
No, 104F is not too hot for a phone to hit while charging and being used. You have heat from the battery while charging and heat from the processor while using, add any case you might have put on there trapping the heat and it is still well withing acceptable parameters. In Florida ambient temperature reaches that through most of the summer.
And if this thread continues to be a flame/troll fest it will be closed.
Like everyone else had said, I dont think thats very hot. Thats around where mine is
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And if this thread continues to be a flame/troll fest it will be closed.
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Awesome lolz...
104° F is actually cool for a phone th that's charging and in a call. If the device is lagging out on you just return it if a reset doesn't fix the issue.
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I actually had this same issue on a white 16gb s4. Phone was powered off while charging over night. Upon powering it on the internal thermometer also read 104F. I suspect it was much hotter, given I have hot spots on my laptop case that reach that temp as verified by a thermal camera. This felt much hotter, though I didn't have the tools on hand to verify.
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I've heard a few people complain about their devices getting too hot, but most of them have had the white version. Is that what you guys have had? I have the black one and haven't experienced this issue at all. It does get a little warm when charging, but other than that, no issues here
Im shocked that no one has asked this. But...
Were you still virgin stock on firmware? Or were you on something you flashed?
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My phone gets to hot
Black version no root
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104f is not hot??? Hold that next to your ear and tell me it feels comfortable
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Actionx1 said:
104f is not hot??? Hold that next to your ear and tell me it feels comfortable
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Why yes, it does. Actually kinda like a nice warming pad on a winter day.
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Why yes, it does. Actually kinda like a nice warming pad on a winter day.
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It's a good thing winter is year round.
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Actionx1 said:
It's a good thing winter is year round.
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Well I'm in Florida so whenever I'm inside it's like a warming pad against the AC. When I'm outside I don't care because it's not getting any hotter than the air already is. Sound logic.
You do realize I was being sarcastic right? Regardless, that's neither here nor there. You can't make a thread and be like "Damn samsung my phone hits 104 F when I'm charging and talking on the phone!!!!111oneone"
That's not hot. Especially for a phone that's charging while doing anything, or using mobile data in any way, or playing games. When it hit's 60-70 celsius start complaining about overheating problems/return it. When your phone hits 100 degrees Celsius start worrying about the internals frying. Anything less than that stop complaining. It's a ****ing quad core computer that fits in your hand and is slimmer than a BIC lighter. Of course it's going to get warm. If you didn't realize that when you bought it you shouldn't be paying 650 bucks for anything because you're too stupid to have 650 bucks to spend.
For the last time, that's not hot at all. This thread is pointless. I'm done with it.
lolz
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